Nikon D300 specs!

[Overkill]

I just reviewd the New Nikon D300 specs..... Comparing them to the
new 40D..........:evil::cry:

Or am i looking to specs to mutch!

[dpastern]

Personally, if Nikon can deliver on time, and the new AF modules work fast and accurately, and the noise is equal to Canon at higher ISOs, Nikon has dealt a good kick up the a$$ to Canon, and imho, Canon deserves it for sitting on it's b*m for so long.

Dave

[Overkill]

I agree that we have to wait what the specs can do in the real world!! But i am not confident that the 40D will beat the D300!

[dpastern]

It's hard to say really. Live view with AF is very limiting from what I've been reading (you basically have to use a tripod). The new AF will probably equal Canon's AF performance, same with high ISO noise levels. Nikon has added a few small features to the D300/D3, which are nice touches. Canon, imho, loses out (and has been for some while) in metering accuracy, flash metering accuracy. Just my 2.2c worth.

Dave

[SilverOnemi]

i like the name overkill :D
d300 power.

[amoergosum]

yes.....the D300 looks really nice....I'm thinking about it....

[deeeez]

looks like a great camera... but I think the wise thing to do would be to wait at least until a credible review is published. Given the recent problems with both nikon and canon Quality Control, I'm going to wait before I make my purchase.

[SilverOnemi]

what nikon quality control issues

[deeeez]

what nikon quality control issues

D200 banding for one...

[SilverOnemi]

ah ok, well i'm not shure about that

[CamaroSS]

I don't understand why you would consider going with Nikon. I guess you don't have much money invested in lenses?

[lowcrust]

I got to play with this camera the other day. Nikon Norway had both the D300 and the D3 with them to one of the bigger stores in Oslo. No shots was allowed to be taken out of the camera (for obvious reasons) but you could play around with them and test the AF (which seemed fast and accurate) and what not.

They did have 3 small poster sized prints with them (an ISO 3200 portrait of a girl, an ISO 6400 live shot of a trumpet player and an ISO 200 shot of some Buddhist textiles (lots of colors)). The live shot was the one that is closest to what I shoot and thus what interested me the most. All shots where claimed to be shot as JPG and printed straight out of the camera with absolutely no pp done to them. I have to say, even knowing this is controlled shots, I was simply blown away by the lack of noise at an ISO like that. Obviously we will have to wait until some pixel peeper guy gets down and dirty with the cameras until we can lay a final judgment, but so far I'd lie if I didn't say I was awfully tempted to buy one of these things. And I've only owned Canon (both in film and digital, even my point'n'shoot cameras are Canon) all my life. I've always considered Canon to make better cameras, better glass and more intuitive design but that Nikon had better built quality, there's just something that feels a little more solid some how. Having these 2 Nikons in my hands certainly didn't make me change my mind in that regard.

I'll probably stick to Canon for some time to come just because I don't have the funds or energy to swap all my gear at this time. But still... a D3 would be a dream to onw if it holds up even to half of what it seems to be (a 1D and 1Ds merged into one monster for a fraction of the cost).

[SilverOnemi]

well my glass is on my signature but honestly this d300 is like an nikon 1d mark three, if the noise is has good , or slightly worser than the d3... besides i've handholded a d200 for hours, and it feels reaaaly smooth, and the camera just goes with the flow really.

also becouse with the d300 you can calibrate ur focus to match ur lens ... so no bad copies :D

the only thing that makes me wobble just slightly is the 2.5 fps when on 14 bits.

[deeeez]

ah ok, well i'm not shure about that

You are not sure about what?
You are not sure that that D200 had banding issues or that banding issues were QC related?

I'm not a Nikon or Canon basher... just replying to your original post..

[SilverOnemi]

yes yes true, but i think nikon has been working hard and i doubt it will not suffer from from banding...

ofcourse this is mere speeculation.

[bobinatcat]

well its def. sounds nice, cept i dont have the money to cahnge, plus i hate nikon button configs.

but it does "sound" somewhat sexy

[marco_30D]

I'm also tempted to shift to nikon because of it's color, it's more saturated & the colors is more apealing to me.:oops:

[lowcrust]

Well unless you only shoot jpg and print straight out of the camera I don't think saturated colors could be a factor either way?

[S2000]

I just reviewd the New Nikon D300 specs..... Comparing them to the
new 40D..........:evil::cry:

Or am i looking to specs to mutch!

Compare them to the 300D and you will cry more. Compare it to the 1dsIII and you will feel very sorry for the dumb SOB who would be stupid enough not to shell out the extra 5K for the 1dsIII.

It all depends on what side of the wallet you want to compare.

The best tool a photographer has is his artistic abilities and understanding of what his gear can and can't do. I can show you pinhole photographs that are better photos than anything I could ever dream of. Goes to show you what a oatmeal tube, duct tape, and a piece of tinfoil can get you.

[scokar]

Compare them to the 300D and you will cry more. Compare it to the 1dsIII and you will feel very sorry for the dumb SOB who would be stupid enough not to shell out the extra 5K for the 1dsIII.

It all depends on what side of the wallet you want to compare.

The best tool a photographer has is his artistic abilities and understanding of what his gear can and can't do. I can show you pinhole photographs that are better photos than anything I could ever dream of. Goes to show you what a oatmeal tube, duct tape, and a piece of tinfoil can get you.

or compare it with the hubble....

Most people have a realistic price range when they do compare cameras that they are actually considering as a purchase.

trolls have much larger bank accounts though :)

[Sageg]

When the D300 specs were released, I was interested, but not enough to switch over to nikon. I decided to wait for the 50D instead. Well, I was robbed, and the only thing I have left is the sigma 30. I have to admit I was tempted. More focal points & a better flash system. I was so nearly there. Then I started looking at the Nikon lens lineup. A couple of lenses interested me, but not to the extent that the canon lens appeal to me. So I'm waiting for my insurance company to settles things, and I'll be picking up the 40D and the 24-105. I'll keep my sigma 30. I just have to figure out what I'll do flash wise (580 or a manual flash like a vivitar).

[lowcrust]

Bzzzt!

[papagei]

Oh Sarah - I am sorry - and in the same boat! All of my stuff was stolen last month (5D / 4 lenses) and I have been hunting for a new system. Like you, I was looking at that D300, but decided to go back to Canon. I haven't heard from the insurance either, but my wish list at Adorama is full!

When the D300 specs were released, I was interested, but not enough to switch over to nikon. I decided to wait for the 50D instead. Well, I was robbed, and the only thing I have left is the sigma 30. I have to admit I was tempted. More focal points & a better flash system. I was so nearly there. Then I started looking at the Nikon lens lineup. A couple of lenses interested me, but not to the extent that the canon lens appeal to me. So I'm waiting for my insurance company to settles things, and I'll be picking up the 40D and the 24-105. I'll keep my sigma 30. I just have to figure out what I'll do flash wise (580 or a manual flash like a vivitar).

[Sprout Crumble]

Why are people getting heated over the D300?

It has some nice features over the 40D, but no killer ones and its a whacking 40% more expensive. Hardly direct competitors.

I think the most annoying thing is that Canon don't actually have a direct competitor. The 40D is fabulous for the money but a 4D (1d style body and spec) would be brilliant.

[papagei]

In my case, it's not the body, but the Nikon 28-200 VR lens. If Canon had something like it - and not the monster 28-300, almost-four-pounder! Canon has the wide end sewn up with the 10-22 (and that 15mm fisheye is so much fun!), but that broad wide to telephoto for walk-around is Nikon territory. After my last setup, I realized that I do not want to keep changing lenses for the routine shots I take.

Yes, Tamron is supposed to come out with a AF28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 XR Di VC LD Aspherical (IF) MACRO (http://balkophoto.com/2007/09/22/tamron-af28-300mm-f35-65-xr-di-vc/) - but that has already been delayed because of focusing problems for Canons. The Nikon version is due out the end of this year.

Here is the Adorama page (http://www.adorama.com/TM28300VCNKA.html?kbid=63329) for it.
Ingrid

Why are people getting heated over the D300?

It has some nice features over the 40D, but no killer ones and its a whacking 40% more expensive. Hardly direct competitors.

I think the most annoying thing is that Canon don't actually have a direct competitor. The 40D is fabulous for the money but a 4D (1d style body and spec) would be brilliant.

[Sprout Crumble]

Sigma have a very nice 18-200 IS (same range as the Nikon).

[Overkill]

Sigma have a very nice 18-200 IS (same range as the Nikon).


hmm nothing wrong with it... but its a lens for a entry level camera's!!

[papagei]

Well I did it - I bought a 40D and now have to wait a long and unbearable week to get it! It is coming with the 28-135 IS lens, but I'll be hunting for more...like the 10-22 (yum), 100mm macro, and a nice long telephoto!

Can't afford (or want to carry) the white ones, so I am very interested in feedback on any great zooms up to 300.

[Overkill]

Well I did it - I bought a 40D and now have to wait a long and unbearable week to get it! It is coming with the 28-135 IS lens, but I'll be hunting for more...like the 10-22 (yum), 100mm macro, and a nice long telephoto!

Can't afford (or want to carry) the white ones, so I am very interested in feedback on any great zooms up to 300.


For a entry level budget the 70-300 IS USM is the right Choice!

You can also look for a Sigma 70-200 2.8 + 1.4TC (Great combo) and
not to expensive!

[lowcrust]

How about the Sigma 50-500? It's quite heavy though so that might put you off. It seems to be a great allround lens though. In that price range (just over 900 bucks) you can't beat the telephoto end either.

[papagei]

Only if they throw in a male model to carry it for me LOL

I have heard of Bigma, but if I were to carry the weight again, that 28-300L would be the one :) Believe me, I keep going back and forth on that because it is the range I want and it would deliver the IQ as well.

How about the Sigma 50-500? It's quite heavy though so that might put you off. It seems to be a great allround lens though. In that price range (just over 900 bucks) you can't beat the telephoto end either.

[SilverOnemi]

lol i walked arround for an hour in the store, after holding my old griped 350D + 70 200 for six hours + the lowerpro ( fully loaded ) at my back, and i thought it wasn't really that heavy-

[mantra]

does somebody how many pieces did nikon sell of this camera?

[Overkill]

does somebody how many pieces did nikon sell of this camera?


Must be a lot!

[mantra]

Must be a lot!


i think canon should wake up

[Overkill]

i think canon should wake up


That is what if thought!!!

But sticking to the thing you do best. Make decent good performing camera's for a reasonable price!

That is why a lot of people buy Canon.....

But of course..... i like to own the most advanced camera of them all......
and it would be great if that was a Canon instead of a NIKO...

[Leorooster]

D200 banding for one...

Wonder if Noink fixed the "Dead Battery Syndrome" ..........

[mantra]

by the way did not find a good review & test
digital review gives only a brief presentation

[fordmondeo]

The D200 did indeed display banding but this was only under fairly extreme conditions.
What canon do really well is, make reasonable quality cameras available to the general public.
By that I mean competitively priced.

The links below show some of the less known Canon banding issues.


http://www.livingroom.org.au/photolog/news/canon_eos_5d_banding_problems.php

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=10919511

[Azzure_7]

something to drool for. . .

[papagei]

For a entry level budget the 70-300 IS USM is the right Choice!

You can also look for a Sigma 70-200 2.8 + 1.4TC (Great combo) and not to expensive!

I was bad - very bad (heh heh) and I bought a used 100-400L. I agonized over all the 3rd party lenses and Canon's 70-300, but after having had/used the 70-200 2.8L IS USM and then the 100-400L, I know I will keep wanting that performance back again, so I found a deal at FM and the check is in the mail!

Of course that means no 10-22 or 100mm macro at this time, but so be it :)

The 70-300 IS is still on my short list for a quick walk-around lens.

Not only that - I also bought an IR-converted Rebel XT! So much for wanting a lighter load LOL

[Keith R]

The D200 did indeed display banding but this was only under fairly extreme conditions.

Both of my D200s would band at the drop of a hat - any light source, or a bird against the sky, and there'd be banding.

Bloody awful camera.

[AngryCorgi]

If the noise levels for the D300 are similar to the new Sony a700, kiss quality goodbye! At least the JPEGs (out of camera) that people are showing on pbase of the a700 look like muddy garbage at ISO1600!!