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MrsOpie
10th of September 2007 (Mon), 01:56
I was just wondering how you deliver your images to the client. Do you give them the photo strait out of the camera converted to jpg? Do you make small adjustment (exposure, white balance)? Do you give them the final product with all adjustments, actions, "special effects", blemish removal? Do you give them both color and BW of the same image?
cdifoto
10th of September 2007 (Mon), 01:56
RAW looks dead, so I'd never give a client those in JPEG.
jessiper
10th of September 2007 (Mon), 02:00
Personally, I'd never give them the images straight from the camera. I want to 'wow' them with their pictures, and thus, me. I don't understand why some people would give their clients less than great images. Now, that being said, I don't spend hours and hours opening each photo. I do edit each for exposure, WB, contrast, fill light, & recovery, then I do batch processing, which I've told you about, but I WILL open each B&G pic in Photoshop and edit each of those further by hand. I'll only do special effects to a select few of the images. I don't want to over-do it, and I never know if they'll like it, so I don't want to waste time if they don't.
JaertX
10th of September 2007 (Mon), 02:04
I correct WB and give a little hue/sat bump in RAW conversion. Further process a few favorites, but for the most part leave them like that.
sblais
10th of September 2007 (Mon), 09:43
I chose other because I don't give a final product for proofs (that would be a waste of time), but I do a bit more than just a basic correction. I typically don't do any cloning for proofs (that's one point where I draw the line), but I go over each image individually and run a few (or none, always depends on the picture) "special effects" actions on them after the basic correction.
picturecrazy
10th of September 2007 (Mon), 11:27
Every image I deliver is print ready. They never see anything that isn't a final product. That doesn't mean I put a zillion effects into each photo... 95% of them just receive colour and density correction in lightroom, and that's all it needs. But that's still a final product.
litwinphotography
10th of September 2007 (Mon), 14:57
I shoot in JPEG and use David Jays Lightroom pre-sets on them, adjust the minor color and balance things and voila, they look album ready for the most part, then when wall portraits and final images are chosen, I retouch and improve from there, then the client is even MORE impressed because they didn't think that the image could get better! its a win-win for me. :)
Wazza
10th of September 2007 (Mon), 15:00
When I shot my weddings, I converted RAW in RSE. Only adjusting colour, contrast, and white balance occassionally. Converted to JPG. Of these, the best 20-50 wow images, I would add other effects, vignetting, selective colouring etc. I aim for around 300 quality photos, and now take around 500 at a wedding. My very first wedding with Tim, I was his assistant and shot 1200.. He wasn't happy ;)
Bobster
10th of September 2007 (Mon), 17:10
I correct WB and give a little hue/sat bump in RAW conversion. Further process a few favorites, but for the most part leave them like that.snap
the ones they choose after proofing i take further with corrections
bcap
10th of September 2007 (Mon), 17:13
It's my philosophy that the client never sees anything that hasn't been pushed to it's full potential. Why would you let the client see anything but the best, right?
MrsOpie
10th of September 2007 (Mon), 17:35
The reason why I'm asking is because I shot about 1400 images for the most recent wedding and I'm just wondering what is going to save me time in post processing.
bcap
10th of September 2007 (Mon), 17:40
The reason why I'm asking is because I shot about 1400 images for the most recent wedding and I'm just wondering what is going to save me time in post processing.
Oh sorry MrsOpie, it wasn't a direct question at you it was sort of rhetorical! lol
I find that presets and Copy/Paste settings in Lightroom are a HUGE timesaver.
MrsOpie
10th of September 2007 (Mon), 18:17
Well, I'm giving the client the final product and not a "proof". My husband keeps telling me that I'm insane for individually processing each picture when they might not print it or have it in a wedding album. I need to master light room and batch processing in photoshop asap to save my sanity.
jessiper
10th of September 2007 (Mon), 18:44
The reason why I'm asking is because I shot about 1400 images for the most recent wedding and I'm just wondering what is going to save me time in post processing.
First, delete half of them :D...then master batch processing. ;) The delete key does become my friend when I've shot that many images.
bmd7703
10th of September 2007 (Mon), 19:03
I find that presets and Copy/Paste settings in Lightroom are a HUGE timesaver.
I agree. Obviously this works best with consistent exposures
I guess the trick is to try and get it as right as you can when you shoot it. Something I have to master.:)
liza
10th of September 2007 (Mon), 19:50
I don't take nearly as many images as you do. My routine consists of uploading, culling the unsatisfactory shots, and doing basic enhancements to the remaining ones for presentation to the client. If they order a CD or a box of 4x6 prints, that's what they get. The ones with special effects applied uploaded to an online cart for individual sale.
rhid78
11th of September 2007 (Tue), 01:07
The reason why I'm asking is because I shot about 1400 images for the most recent wedding and I'm just wondering what is going to save me time in post processing.
I'm facing the same dilemma after having just shot 1100 at my first wedding. So many to go through, so many good ones - do I work on them all or just a few?
I've decided that considering this is my first and they're friends of my sister, I'll work on alot of them. If I decide to do more weddings it can only help me, particularly when they start showing the photos to others :-)
tim
11th of September 2007 (Tue), 01:20
I'm facing the same dilemma after having just shot 1100 at my first wedding. So many to go through, so many good ones - do I work on them all or just a few?
I've decided that considering this is my first and they're friends of my sister, I'll work on alot of them. If I decide to do more weddings it can only help me, particularly when they start showing the photos to others :-)
Why do you feel you need to work on each image? Just make sure the brightness is about right, the white balance is about right, and you're done. 5 seconds in your RAW convertor should about do it, less if you work in batches, and much much more if you shoot JPG.
1100 is a bit more than I shoot, I cull down to 300 generally, and only do much processing on about five. Some weddings I do none, as I don't see any need, the photos are pretty good without it usually, they would be changed not necessarily improved by PP.
Nicole Faith
11th of September 2007 (Tue), 13:38
If color is way off or just needs alittle pop - I adjust that. Otherwise - cropping and creating an artistic view to them is my main adjustment when converting to .jpg. Something like that could make or break them buying a print.
SoaringUSAEagle
11th of September 2007 (Tue), 13:41
Oops clicked the wrong one and now its too late lol. I give them the minor adjustments. All jpg files. I never give the raw files.
MrsOpie
12th of September 2007 (Wed), 00:36
based on the results I think I'll hand select my top 20-30 favorites from the wedding and hand process those. Then I'll open everything up in Lightroom and do some batch processing there. Then do some batch processing in Photoshop, convert to B&W then done!
Toogy
12th of September 2007 (Wed), 06:41
First, delete half of them :D...then master batch processing. ;) The delete key does become my friend when I've shot that many images.
yep, I use the delete key a lot more than I used to!! Hard at first, but it gets easier!
jessiper
12th of September 2007 (Wed), 13:31
yep, I use the delete key a lot more than I used to!! Hard at first, but it gets easier!
It really is hard, but they only need to see the best of the best.
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