Sunday Soccer Snaps

[Seefutlung]

A few snaps of soccer
http://garyayala.smugmug.com/gallery/3489552#196571052

1
http://garyayala.smugmug.com/photos/196571052-M.jpg

2
http://garyayala.smugmug.com/photos/196570653-L.jpg

3
http://garyayala.smugmug.com/photos/196571892-M.jpg

[asysin2leads]

I like the action in the shots. but don't like the PP'ing. The heads in #1 are cut off. Can't see the Exif data. Sorry.

[MCTuomey]

I like the crop & conversion on 2, a lot. Tough backlighting - I think I'd have tried to balance it out in PP with light use of shadows/highlights on 1,3.

[Seefutlung]

I like the action in the shots. but don't like the PP'ing. The heads in #1 are cut off. Can't see the Exif data. Sorry.

I don't like the blown out areas also ... but (the big but) when one is shooting in bright SoCal mid-day sun casting deep shadows over the faces one can either meter for the faces or meter for the pitch ... my call was that I would rather have noses and eyes instead of nice green grass. I was trained to expose for the most important element of the photo and let the rest fall where it may ... this methodology works better with film.

As to the heads .. my bad ... but in my old age I just set up a chair and shoot. As these guys were in my face I really didn't have the time to get up and back up a few feet. I still thing the action speaks well in spite of the heads ... but the shot would definitely been improved if I was able to get the entire body.

Gary

[CarrieW]

I like #2 and #3, Great action and the B&W is very effective!
Carrie

[Seefutlung]

I like the crop & conversion on 2, a lot. Tough backlighting - I think I'd have tried to balance it out in PP with light use of shadows/highlights on 1,3.

I tried ... the extremes in exposure differences of the shadows and light areas were too much for an in-between exposure. So I just said crew it and went for the faces. I am thinking of getting a gradient ND filter and shoot with the darker end turned to the bottom. It was very harsh light with a cloucless sky. If you have any exposure suggestions I am open to anything reasonable.

Gary

[Seefutlung]

I like #2 and #3, Great action and the B&W is very effective!
Carrie

Thanks Carrie

[MCTuomey]

I tried ... the extremes in exposure differences of the shadows and light areas were too much for an in-between exposure. So I just said crew it and went for the faces. I am thinking of getting a gradient ND filter and shoot with the darker end turned to the bottom. It was very harsh light with a cloucless sky. If you have any exposure suggestions I am open to anything reasonable.

Gary

I would have done the same and expose for the faces, too. I thought there might have been a little postprocess wiggle room, but I guess not, eh? I wish I had the solution myself to such extreme lighting when shooting field sports in ambient light. Awhile ago, *Palladium* posted some nice futbol shots taken in extreme light with a nongradient ND filter (1 or 2 stops, not sure which) that somehow seemed to help the DR problem. The only thing that seems to help me a bit is adjusting my shooting positioning so the light is mostly at my back or side, if possible. Doesn't always help the shadow problem but does combat the severe effect of backlighting.

[Seefutlung]

I would have done the same and expose for the faces, too. I thought there might have been a little postprocess wiggle room, but I guess not, eh? I wish I had the solution myself to such extreme lighting when shooting field sports in ambient light. Awhile ago, *Palladium* posted some nice futbol shots taken in extreme light with a nongradient ND filter (1 or 2 stops, not sure which) that somehow seemed to help the DR problem. The only thing that seems to help me a bit is adjusting my shooting positioning so the light is mostly at my back or side, if possible. Doesn't always help the shadow problem but does combat the severe effect of backlighting.

I'm a lazy shooter ... I just set up my chair on "our side" of the field and let the action run towards me ... the lighting is what it is. Maybe what I need is some un-lazy pills. I don't see how a non-gradient ND filter would be of much help as all it is doing is moving everything x-stops darker .. sure it will help on the highlight end ... but hurt you equally (by x-stops) on the shadow end.

Gary