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mcbunny
18th of September 2007 (Tue), 02:28
i have just adopted a lovely cat and of course everyone wants to see photos of her, this isnt a problem i have a lovely new camera and im willing to do it except she is all black no white at all so she just sort of morphs into a featureless black ball

so whats the best way to capture her beauty especially in low light as she never sits still (i did think about glue ;) )

see what i mean here (yes i know the dof is too shallow)

http://www.sulaco.plus.com/random_photos/new%20pics/IMG_1302.JPG

totalbeginner
18th of September 2007 (Tue), 03:05
I would crop in tightly to her head. Try and capture her next to a window so that you have some side light, that should help to add some detail and just remember to focus on her eyes.

windoze
18th of September 2007 (Tue), 03:19
eerie, i have the same exact cat! Mine has extra toes...


troy

BaliHai
18th of September 2007 (Tue), 07:12
The closer the better, focus on the eyes, get down to their level. Black cats are extremely difficult to photograph (only thing worse is a white cat) try to catch him in a spot of sun or bounce a flash off the ceiling. Get them used to having their picture taken my gang say so what there she comes with that camera thing again. The camera is almost always out where I can grab it and shoot a quick shot when the cats are relaxed or getting into things.

StewartR
18th of September 2007 (Tue), 08:28
Black cats are extremely difficult to photograph (only thing worse is a white cat) try to catch him in a spot of sun or bounce a flash off the ceiling. I agree that lighting is the real challenge for a black cat. You should have got an 18% grey cat.

One of mine is black and I find that harsh lighting seems to be best in bringing out some texture in her fur (as opposed to rendering her as an amorphous blob). That means strong sunlight or direct flash.

Here's a sunlit example. Note the texture. I'll see if I can dig out a flash example when I'm next at home.

http://StewartR.smugmug.com/photos/128681743-M.jpg

PhotosGuy
18th of September 2007 (Tue), 09:16
I'd start with a black background with white surrounding the rest of the cat. Seen this?
A few Car Lighting Tips (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=70290)
POST #30 NEAR THE BOTTOM: The gray bar at the center is the same density all the way across, so the black background will make the light on the black hair "Pop" out.

Hermeto
18th of September 2007 (Tue), 09:18
Very, very difficult..
Itís all about metering.
Also, try bracketing.

Here is my take, not very successful.

http://hermeto.zenfolio.com/img/v2/p1051293122-4.jpg

Roy Mathers
18th of September 2007 (Tue), 09:21
Why did you give her your lens cap to play with?

mcbunny
18th of September 2007 (Tue), 09:39
Why did you give her your lens cap to play with?

it was in my back pocket but it droped out when i moved to get to a distance i could focus at

ryant35
18th of September 2007 (Tue), 10:22
I put a warm towel on my counter as bait, my cat took to it and fell asleep. I clamped a gold relfector & a light over her, and as she slowly woke up she was pretty calm and still.

I shot this with my Canon 75-300 f/4-5.6 with 1x close up lens, 1/160sec, f/5.6, iso 1600.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k173/ryant35/IMG_3055.jpg
This one was bounce flash around 1/160 sec, iso 100
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k173/ryant35/1247891-large.jpg

bsmotril
18th of September 2007 (Tue), 10:28
Try fill flash and shoot in manual mode. Use Flash compensation to bring in the desired level of highlights. Use the eyes to get a good focus point.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1332/780194862_9504769b74.jpg

tiktaalik
18th of September 2007 (Tue), 10:37
I use diffused flash typically set at +1 or +1-1/3 compensation.

I'm still learning how to photograph a black cat and it's real hard. She's either so active that I can't keep up with her or she's trying out her latest trick, which is whenever she sees the camera she stops whatever cute/funny thing she's doing and just stares at me with crazy little kitten eyes.

http://www.pbase.com/image/83485700/large.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/79909543/original.jpg

Riff Raff
18th of September 2007 (Tue), 11:00
Whee, a whole thread of black cats. :D

http://shawn.mchorse.com/pets/content/bin/images/large/IMG_0158.jpg
ISO 200 | 70 mm | 1/60 sec at f / 2.8

mcbunny
18th of September 2007 (Tue), 11:13
so i need to buy a flash then hehe

lovely pictures though and the cat was the best £75 i have ever donated :)

ryant35
18th of September 2007 (Tue), 12:11
My first cat photograph was without flash.

Riff Raff
18th of September 2007 (Tue), 12:23
Mine was no flash also. You definitely need a light background for them at least.

PhotosGuy
18th of September 2007 (Tue), 12:52
You definitely need a light background for them at least.Not for a black cat IMO. See post #6.

mcbunny
27th of September 2007 (Thu), 03:27
well i was off sick for the past few days and managed to shoot her :)

better than what i had before not done anything to the photos except crop the second one

http://www.sulaco.plus.com/random_photos/dita.jpg
http://www.sulaco.plus.com/random_photos/dita2.jpg

totalbeginner
27th of September 2007 (Thu), 07:41
Wow, I love the first one, great pose!

I thought it could do with a little USM just to make the eyes a bit more crisp. Hope you don't mind?...

mcbunny
27th of September 2007 (Thu), 09:00
no no do what you like to them :)
i cant use ps at all so i always welcome people doing bits :)


its nice to see another uk based person on here :D

Roy Mathers
27th of September 2007 (Thu), 09:34
its nice to see another uk based person on here :D

There are quite a few of us:D

totalbeginner
27th of September 2007 (Thu), 10:04
cant use ps at all so i always welcome people doing bits :smile:

If you're in the UK then I'd recommend subscribing to the magazine Digital Photo. Each edition comes free with a Photoshop Tutorial CD, they can teach you quite a bit!

mcbunny
27th of September 2007 (Thu), 10:09
phew safety in numbers ;)


i shall go have a look for this mag i have also just started a dslr course that has some instruction in ps so i should soon know the basics :)

Roy Mathers
27th of September 2007 (Thu), 10:41
phew safety in numbers ;)

:)


Yes, we have to keep these colonials in check:D

ryant35
27th of September 2007 (Thu), 11:02
Yes, we have to keep these colonials in check:D

Should I as an American consider that racist? ;)

Roy Mathers
27th of September 2007 (Thu), 11:25
No - you're not a different race, just an ex-Colonial:lol:

ryant35
27th of September 2007 (Thu), 12:55
Ex-Colonial-American? To be politically correct.

Roy Mathers
27th of September 2007 (Thu), 13:24
Ex-Colonial-American? To be politically correct.

OK, I'll go with that:D I may add that I've taken a holiday in the US every year for the past twenty years and, in that time, have visited all 50 states, so that should tell you something!

20droger
27th of September 2007 (Thu), 14:13
well i was off sick for the past few days and managed to shoot her :)

better than what i had before not done anything to the photos except crop the second one

http://www.sulaco.plus.com/random_photos/dita.jpg
http://www.sulaco.plus.com/random_photos/dita2.jpg
Beautify mog shots.

20droger
27th of September 2007 (Thu), 14:17
OK, I'll go with that:D I may add that I've taken a holiday in the US every year for the past twenty years and, in that time, have visited all 50 states, so that should tell you something!
It tells me that you have a thirst for beauty and variety, in scenery and weather.

When I accused my Liverpudlian friend of having nothing but bad weather (based upon months of gripes), he replied, "That's not true! We have several nice days a year!"

Roy Mathers
27th of September 2007 (Thu), 15:13
It tells me that you have a thirst for beauty and variety, in scenery and weather.

When I accused my Liverpudlian friend of having nothing but bad weather (based upon months of gripes), he replied, "That's not true! We have several nice days a year!"

Your first comment is very true - your second is probably true!:D

Fotoshooter
27th of September 2007 (Thu), 15:49
1. Photograph outdoors with light overcast + optional flash fill.
2. Indoors with 3 flashes bounced off white ceiling and walls.
3. Indoors with 2 flashes bounced off ceiling and wall and 1 direct flash to one side of
camera no more than 1 stop brighter than bounce lights.
3. Head shot with flash over center of lens (full face).
4. Head shot with flash from side (profile).
You may choose to use bright windows or reflectors in place of or in addition to flash.
If you wait till after the cat eats. It will likely be still cleaning itself.
A long peacock feather or other cat toy can be used to gain attention.

This should get you started.