At the Airport - Not for 56k users!

[Penguin_101_1]

I posted this in Share but I need critique too.

I finally went to an airport to get some pics. Here are some that I got.

What is the blue haze above the plane?
http://images.fotopic.net/?iid=y3khej&outx=600&noresize=1&nostamp=1
Really blurry I know
http://images.fotopic.net/?iid=y3khek&outx=600&noresize=1&nostamp=1
Taking off:
http://images.fotopic.net/?iid=y3khem&outx=600&noresize=1&nostamp=1
Bye! :lol:
http://images.fotopic.net/?iid=y3khen&outx=600&noresize=1&nostamp=1
Landing
http://images.fotopic.net/?iid=y3khel&outx=600&noresize=1&nostamp=1
I got the propeller to have the moving effect.
http://images.fotopic.net/?iid=y3khep&outx=600&noresize=1&nostamp=1
Not a great picture but it is a neat plane.
http://images.fotopic.net/?iid=y3kheo&outx=600&noresize=1&nostamp=1
Blurry but I still like it.
http://images.fotopic.net/?iid=y3kheq&outx=600&noresize=1&nostamp=1

I still have some pictures on the X-700 film SLR so when I finish that roll I will get it developed.

Thanks for looking! Comments for next time are welcome!

[Penguin_101_1]

Anyone ??? :(

[sGu]

what camera and lens did you use?

if you use SLR type, these results are far from acceptable. The first one is the best out of them all, even so it still lacks sharpness. what filter did you use if any?

I don't know where you shooting from, but was there any chance you can go slightly closer to the planes? tighter frame would be much more appealing to viewers. too much blur is no good

[Big_B]

Could the blue haze be a little camera shake?

[Sailor Don]

Penguin 101,

I really like your picture of the blue and white biplane. I would do some major cropping. Too much grass, trees and sky takes away from the interest in the subject.

Suggestion. Downsize your contributions to the "critique corner". My poor dial up connection took several minutes to load all your pictures. :(

2 or 3 pictures at most would be nice. :)

The optimum would be to critique one photo at a time.

But that is just my opinion.

Anyone else care to comment?

[Penguin_101_1]

I was using an A60. I know I wasn't to happy either. I got as close as I can get. I have some pictures on a roll of film that I took with a SLR that I need to be developed. I hope those will be better. Sorry about having to many pics. I will try to take some out next time. This time I will put "Not for 56k users". I forget because it has been years since I used 56k.

Thanks!

[Sailor Don]

Penguin 101,

The jet landing with the "blue haze effect" had me asking the same question as you asked.

What is the blue haze above the plane?

After loading your posted image into my photo editor, I did some "zoom in" around the areas where the blue haze is most obvious.

Observations:
1. The blue haze is most evident where the brilliant white of the top of the plane's nose, top of fuselage and leading edge of tail are adjacent to a green (like trees) background, or black background (like the tinted windows in the tower).

2. The blue haze is missing in the portions of the top of the fuselage where the backgound is light colored, like between the trees.

3. The blue haze was most intense on the leading edge of the tail near the top of the tail. There was so much blue haze that at first I couldn't be sure the leading edge of the tail wasn't painted blue (but the tint of the blue haze didn't match the other blue on the plane).

Conclusion: The appearance of the blue haze is dependent on the color transition from the brilliant white to the green and black. The darker the adjacent color, the more blue haze.

I'm thinking JPEG artifact or the (in)ability of the image sensor to render an accurate image.

Although not as obvious, the "Blue Haze" effect is also detectable in your "moving propeller" shot.

Just an educated guess on my part. Anybody have another explanation?

[mvrekum]

The blue haze you see is called "Blue Fringing".

You see this the most in small compact cameras. The cause of it is the density of the CCD chip. When one cell on the chip is in a dark area and the one next to it is in full light, there is a kind of crosstalk between those cells that make the lighter cells color blueisch.

See also the wings of the plane on image 2 and the small roof on the right on image 3.

The only thing you can do to avoid it is avoid extreem light areas in your image. Otherwise, get a DSLR :) The chips of a DSLR are not as dence as the small compacts.

[Penguin_101_1]

I want a DSLR but I need to make a choice:
Ben Hogan Iorns
DSLR
???

Thanks for the info!

[Sailor Don]

No question about it. Go for the DSLR. Get rid of the "blue fringe". :D

[gixxerjasen]

I remember seeing a special on TV once about photographing prop based airplanes.

They gave a shutter speed range for optimal photographs of the planes in action. Too slow and the props disappear and it looks unnatural and too fast and you freeze the props as seen in these pictures which also looks unnatural when they are in the air.

Anyone have any idea what the range is as I've long since forgotten and don't photograph airplanes very often.

[ScottK]

A couple of other suggestions, on the fringing as well as the general "blandness".

First, try going out on a clearer day. Brighter sunlight will give you some more contrast and better colors from the surroundings. This will also get you a better exposure, and faster shutter speeds, which should help reduce any blur, thus helping with the overall sharpness.

To help with the fringing, try using either Av or Manual mode and setting the apperature smaller than 4.0. On my A40 and G5, the fringing seems worse at apperatures larger tha 4.0 (i.e. 2.0 through 4.0), and gets better as the aperature gets smaller. The downside: You'll have to slow down the shutter speed to compensate, which may add blurring. Better sunlight will help counteract that.

Also, try underexposing the shot a little. As mentioned earlier, the brilliant white is where the fringing occurs. If you can get your exposure darkened a little so the white area's a little less blown out, you'll help with the fringing. This will also increase your shutter speed, which will also help compensate for the smaller apperature.

[Penguin_101_1]

Thanks for the tips! I will have to try them if it ever stops raining.