Finally i have it - long waited 1D

[sGu]

after 3 hours of driving there n back, i now officially joined Canon EOS 1 family :D

But when i try to charge up the battery, it doesn't seem to work. power indicator is lit on the charger, but after i connect cord to the battery, charge indicator doesn't come on at all, tried press refresh button once, nothing happened. now my camera is connected via DC kit, so i can take some test shots on it. while it's powering through the kit, light on the adapter isn't lit either. Does that mean my battery is being charged despite not showing it?

i phoned up seller and they seem to be very new to the problem, since the box was factory sealed when i picked it up. but they did say they might have another charger somewhere, hopefully tonight we'll sort it out.

can't wait to get out and snapped some shots!!!

[roanjohn]

:D Congrats!!

Ro1

[vfilby]

Congratulations.

Vince

[nosquare2003]

Perhaps there's something wrong with the charger. If you charge the battery, a red indicator will lit on the "charge". If you press refresh, a greenish yellow (as I remember) light will be lit on "refresh"...

Congrats for your new camera btw.

[sGu]

thanks guys, i am very happy indeed with the camera, however, battery thing kind ruin the happiness a lot. i'm not sure it's the charger doesn't work or the battery, and i don't know anyone who uses this cam in my area, so i couldn't even test it out.

I might have to pop into a camera store to have a go see what was wrong with it.

[sGu]

wow, this thing is FAAAAST, and shutter is very very sensitive, only a gentle touch needed, still a lot more exploring to do and learning ... without a battery is making it harder since i can't take it outside for test shots ...

[Zmac55]

Yes it may be at 3fps. Is the 11mpix realy worth the money. I forsee the new on comming out soon with multi processor Like the Mark II.
If you get a chance to shoot with mark II you will know what fast is. Everyone who I put my Mark II in their hands and tell to hold the shutter button down for a while are stunned.
Still Congrats on the new camera and hope you alsways shoot in Raw format. CS software works great with Raw files.
Enjoy

[karusel]

Um... What you're talking about is 11 mp 1Ds, while sGu got 4mp 1D. Which is a totally awesome camera.

sGu, I'm happy for you! :D

[sGu]

thanks guys.

i really like the external white balance sensor, i was surprised Canon didn't put one in MK II, why not?

[KennyG]

Yes it may be at 3fps. Is the 11mpix realy worth the money.

He has a 1D which is almost fast as the MK-II, not a 1Ds which is about the speed of a 300D. They may look the same, but one is meant for action photography and the other for studio work. Are you new to the 1 series bodies?

[danphoto1]

Welcome to the club. I have 2 1D's and they still are great machines. U have shot a few test shots with the the MKII and it is a great camera and a definite improvement with newer technology. THE 1D STILL ROCKS!!!!!!!

[sGu]

i was worried a tiny little bit about losing 2mp on 1D, guess what? i don't, none whatsoever.

This machine is AWESOME! so much faster and more control over camera control, and sharpness out of the camera? have you seen them? they are sharp!!! when i had a 10D, i was only 70% times happy with the sharpness, after a test run of 700 photos today, 98% are keepers, i was truly amazed. Also 2mp less means more photos on the same card :D

[nosquare2003]

This machine is AWESOME! so much faster and more control over camera control, and sharpness out of the camera? have you seen them? they are sharp!!! when i had a 10D, i was only 70% times happy with the sharpness, after a test run of 700 photos today, 98% are keepers, i was truly amazed. Also 2mp less means more photos on the same card :D

If you do sharpening in 10D during post processing, there is no advantage in sharpness for a 1D over 10D.

[Belmondo]

i was worried a tiny little bit about losing 2mp on 1D, guess what? i don't, none whatsoever.

This machine is AWESOME! so much faster and more control over camera control, and sharpness out of the camera? have you seen them? they are sharp!!! when i had a 10D, i was only 70% times happy with the sharpness, after a test run of 700 photos today, 98% are keepers, i was truly amazed. Also 2mp less means more photos on the same card :D

I'm almost convinced to sell my 10D and use the 1D as my second camera. I'm satisfied that for the occasional shot, 4 megapixels will serve me just as well as the 10D's 6.3, and it means only carrying one kind of spare battery/charger. Not a big issue, but pretty good rationalization, I'd say.

[danphoto1]

I don't understand all of the technical aspects but the 1D's CCD is larger than the CMOS in the 10D 1.3 multiplier as oppoosed to the 1.6 of the 10D. So eventhought there ar4e less pixiles it would seem that there is actualy more information in each. There is almost no shutterlag with the 1D and it's focus is much faster and accurate. both camera's are outstanding. The 1D is a tank and a great photo journalist Camera. If you shoot sports the 1D wins hands down. i own both and the 100 will go before the 1D

[sGu]

If you do sharpening in 10D during post processing, there is no advantage in sharpness for a 1D over 10D.

for me, i prefer photos straight out of camera, i rarely do much post processing. of course, if you count post processing, there could be no difference even between 1Ds, but that's not the point, i'm talking about camera's ability to produce sharp images, also i've had inconsistent focus before from 10D, but with 1D, every shot is right on target, just so i can skip chimping and keep shooting without worry about images being soft.

[vfilby]

... i can skip chimping...

What do you mean by chimping?

Vince

[sGu]

chimping (http://www.sportsshooter.com/special_feature/chimping/index.html), hope it answers your question :)

[vfilby]

Thanks! ;-)

Vince

[KennyG]

This machine is AWESOME! so much faster and more control over camera control, and sharpness out of the camera? have you seen them? they are sharp!!! when i had a 10D, i was only 70% times happy with the sharpness, after a test run of 700 photos today, 98% are keepers, i was truly amazed. Also 2mp less means more photos on the same card :D

If you do sharpening in 10D during post processing, there is no advantage in sharpness for a 1D over 10D.

Not true. Look at my sig and you will see I have both. The 1D uses a CCD (the only Canon DSLR to do so) and the images are just so sharp out of the camera that to try and do the same by setting the 10D to give similar level of sharpness in-camera introduces artifacts.

You can't emulate the images from a 1D from any of the CMOS DSLR range. The 1D shots have a unique in-your-face look to them and I can submit straight from the camera shots for publication - no post-processing whatsoever, with all the camera settings at default.

Sorry to disagree, but I have tested both very extensively.

[danphoto1]

Kenny I agree. sharp and clean


Dan

[sGu]

yup yup, totally agree

[nosquare2003]

ot true. Look at my sig and you will see I have both. The 1D uses a CCD (the only Canon DSLR to do so) and the images are just so sharp out of the camera that to try and do the same by setting the 10D to give similar level of sharpness in-camera introduces artifacts.

You can't emulate the images from a 1D from any of the CMOS DSLR range. The 1D shots have a unique in-your-face look to them and I can submit straight from the camera shots for publication - no post-processing whatsoever, with all the camera settings at default.

Sorry to disagree, but I have tested both very extensively.

Honestly, I haven't done any tests. However, I do print out sharp photos without seeing artifacts from a D60.

Well, I agree with you that the photo from 1D can go straight for publication which is good for PJ.

I can be wrong but I still believe that it is not an issue for sharpness with CMOS DSLR.

[ArtierSquare]

Oh come on guys...


i was worried a tiny little bit about losing 2mp on 1D, guess what? i don't, none whatsoever.

This machine is AWESOME! so much faster and more control over camera control, and sharpness out of the camera? have you seen them? they are sharp!!! when i had a 10D, i was only 70% times happy with the sharpness, after a test run of 700 photos today, 98% are keepers, i was truly amazed. Also 2mp less means more photos on the same card :D



I am literally walking out the door when I decided to check this forum for the last time before going and buying my 10d... then I find there is a marked difference beteen the 10d and the 1d (MkII)...

Don't do this. Should I bite the bullet and buy the MkII or stick with the 70% sharpness of the 10d?

Gosh... this is so confusing. I've just got back off a short break and think I should go and take another!!!

I am happy for you though sGu :lol:


Pete

[sGu]

thanks, pete.

and i feel your pain man, i've been there before. however, it's down to your needs, do you really need 8fps, larger buffer, 1.3x multiplier and throw one or two grand more away? if you do sports/news photography, then i think it would suit your needs, if not, then 10D would be a wonderful choice. mind you, i was a 10D owner, only after experiencing lack of performance when it comes to sports(football and motorsports), i decided to move up, before that, 10D performs superbly in general photography.

we are only here to provide advices, end of day it's your call, just make sure you get your money worth :)

[ArtierSquare]

Thanks sGu

I'm really feeling the presure here bro. I will go for the 10d as said. It was just reading your comments on the failure rates etc!

I have sourced some 2.2Gb CF cards. The price is so low, I'm tempted to buy and resell for 10d / 1d/s owners.

Maybe recoup some of my outlay!


Pete

[sGu]

sorry mate, you lost me there, failure rate? you mean sharpness?

[ArtierSquare]

Yeh, Sorry sGu

You mentioned the 70% success rate of the sharpness of the 10d. I'm still looking long term. Is the 98% success rate better for me in the long term... Will I sit around thinking "I wished I paid the extra"...

Woa...

As I tell the people I make computers for, "you have to get on somewhere, you just pick the point"

I know. It's my problem. I just wish the costs were a little lower so as the pain of any mistake was not so great!

Anyway I rambling

Cheers buddy


Pete

[sGu]

well, don't quote me on that success rate, it's also down to personal techniques n skills, sometimes, in low light, with a heavy lens, it's not easy for me to hold a steady shot at 1/8 of a second, so that could be a reason for lacking of sharpness.

in general, i do find 1D much sharper straight out of camera, as KennyG said above, which make me a very happy man :)

let us know when you get your camera then we'll have a lot to talk about and possibly hook up n do some photo trips

[danphoto1]

I own two 1D's and a 10D The 1Dis always around my neck and being used . the 10D very reaely used if at all. It is a good camera but just doesn't campare to the 1D overall. Once you have used a 1D nothing wlse feels as good or respods to you needs making images. Yes moreversatility in shot making. withthe 1D


Dan