View Full Version : I cropped when I shouldn't have - help!!!
JABACo
2nd of August 2004 (Mon), 21:46
First, I know I should have made a back up. But I didn't. So, what I've done is taken my original shots, about 100 of them, and did some cropping. Now my shots are about 3.0 megapixals instead of 6.3.
First Question (For the future) Is there anyway to crop in PS7 without losing pixals.
Second - If so, how? Because I do enlargements up to 13x19's.
Third - If I do the crop thing, is there a product on the market that will help me, add pixals if you will, enlarge a 3.0 megapixal photo to 13x19 or better.
I downloaded PhotoZoom, the trial version. Apparently I'm not holding my tounge in the correct position put I seem to be able to make it work.
Any advice will be well received.
Sigh!
cmM
2nd of August 2004 (Mon), 22:15
When you crop, you crop... you always lose stuff.
If you want to, you can print 13x19 from a 640x480 picture, but it will not look very good.
You can always upsize, or decrease the PPI (pixels / inch); that'll give you a larger image as well.
If you want to read more on upsizing, go to
http://www.epaperpress.com/psphoto/index.html , and then cropping and resizing
Hope this helps.
JABACo
2nd of August 2004 (Mon), 22:28
When you crop, you crop... you always lose stuff.
If you want to, you can print 13x19 from a 640x480 picture, but it will not look very good.
Thanks cmM, and yes, I knew this but was hoping for a way out.
Tell me, if you know, when I do crop, what size is better to crop (example: 4x6, 5x7, 17x19, etc). for when I do go back to enlarge or anything else. The reason for this is some of the shots I take, parents want more of their child in the 13x19 picture instead of the surroundings.
Any advice here. Anyone with $.02 may answer
Radtech1
2nd of August 2004 (Mon), 23:05
First Question (For the future) Is there anyway to crop in PS7 without losing pixals.
Second - If so, how? Because I do enlargements up to 13x19's.
Very, very, very easy. After you select the "Crop Tool", which brings up the crop window, notice that is says Width, Height, Resolution etc across the top. Click the button marked "Front Image". That will fill in the Width, Height, and Resolution the same attributes as the image you are cropping. When you "OK" your selection, it will automaitcaly reinterpolate the resuting crop up to the original sized image.
Rad
JABACo
2nd of August 2004 (Mon), 23:25
Very, very, very easy. After you select the "Crop Tool", which brings up the crop window, notice that is says Width, Height, Resolution etc across the top. Click the button marked "Front Image". That will fill in the Width, Height, and Resolution the same attributes as the image you are cropping. When you "OK" your selection, it will automaitcaly reinterpolate the resuting crop up to the original sized image.
Rad
You are the MAN, I think. Do I lose anything in the process? In other words, whats the down side of this?
Bradley
Radtech1
2nd of August 2004 (Mon), 23:31
You are the MAN, I think. Do I lose anything in the process? In other words, whats the down side of this?
Bradley
Reinterpolate is a fancy-schmancy term meaning "to guess". You loose some sharpness and could introduce some halo effect on high contrast edges.
None the less, still better than just printing a large shot from a small image. Even thougth it is a guess, it is usually a pretty good one.
Rad
JABACo
2nd of August 2004 (Mon), 23:38
Reinterpolate is a fancy-schmancy term meaning "to guess". You loose some sharpness and could introduce some halo effect on high contrast edges.
None the less, still better than just printing a large shot from a small image. Even thougth it is a guess, it is usually a pretty good one.
Rad
Rad
I played with this a little. On a landscape shot, the "front image" procedure always kept my crop at 11x17. Most of the time I am cropping a landscape to portrait. Thus I went to image and then canvas. Made the change and then cropped. The only problem to this is my subject had better be centered or the canvas change procedure will clip the subject out.
Is there a better way then this?
Thanks
Radtech1
2nd of August 2004 (Mon), 23:42
Reinterpolate is a fancy-schmancy term meaning "to guess". You loose some sharpness and could introduce some halo effect on high contrast edges.
None the less, still better than just printing a large shot from a small image. Even thougth it is a guess, it is usually a pretty good one.
Rad
Rad
I played with this a little. On a landscape shot, the "front image" procedure always kept my crop at 11x17. Most of the time I am cropping a landscape to portrait. Thus I went to image and then canvas. Made the change and then cropped. The only problem to this is my subject had better be centered or the canvas change procedure will clip the subject out.
Is there a better way then this?
Thanks
Rotate the shot 90 degrees, click Front Image, Rotate the shot back to the first orientation. When you start cropping, the orientation of the "hole" will be what it was when you clicked Front Image
JABACo
2nd of August 2004 (Mon), 23:46
Rotate the shot 90 degrees, click Front Image, Rotate the shot back to the first orientation. When you start cropping, the orientation of the "hole" will be what it was when you clicked Front Image
Yup. Seems to work. Thanks for the assistance. I'll give'er a go for real in the morning.
Thanks a bunch.
blackviolet
3rd of August 2004 (Tue), 08:15
Studies have shown that 97.4% of all statisitcs are made up.
...evidentally, so is the spelling :oops:
if you find that lots of your photos need cropping and you are at the end of your zoom, you might need to look at a longer lens
JABACo
3rd of August 2004 (Tue), 09:04
[/quote]...evidentally, so is the spelling :oops:
if you find that lots of your photos need cropping and you are at the end of your zoom, you might need to look at a longer lens[/quote]
You are correct. I have been looking at the Bigma 50-500mm and the Canon 100-400mm. I can't make up my mind. Maybe my wallet will decide. I currently have the 70-200mm with a 2x tcon. Seems to work most of the time.
Spelling? That's a type of Bee isn't it!!!
blackviolet
3rd of August 2004 (Tue), 09:13
you can see some of my examples with the 50-500mm (http://www.blackviolet.com/rugby/)
JABACo
3rd of August 2004 (Tue), 09:30
you can see some of my examples with the 50-500mm (http://www.blackviolet.com/rugby/)
Great shots. Are those cropped? I noticed you shot all in small .jpg. I shoot in Large simply because I sell 80% 13x19's.
Bradley
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