Canon says...

[EOS Man]

Canon says on their L minisite that their lens department is only able to churn out max 4-5 new lens designs a year. Any comments?

[CoolToolGuy]

How about a link to that minisite?

Have Fun,

[EOS Man]

How about a link to that minisite?

Have Fun,

It's somewhere in there... quite a fancy flash site they got there.

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/l-lens/index.html

[scokar]

Canon says on their L minisite that their lens department is only able to churn out max 4-5 new lens designs a year. Any comments?

sounds on the reasonable side. but then I know nothing of the design, manufacture and marketing of lenses :)

[AdamJL]

Canon says on their L minisite that their lens department is only able to churn out max 4-5 new lens designs a year. Any comments?

Then how come we don't get many new lenses :(
Churn out an updated 100-400 for God's sake.
I'm fast getting tired of it's AF speed. f/5.6 or not, the 400 Prime is a perfect example of a slow lens with fast AF.

[EOS Man]

Then how come we don't get many new lenses :(
Churn out an updated 100-400 for God's sake.
I'm fast getting tired of it's AF speed. f/5.6 or not, the 400 Prime is a perfect example of a slow lens with fast AF.

Ooops output limit reached?

1. EF 16-35 f2.8L II
2. EF-S 18-55 IS
3. EF-S 55-250 IS
4. EF 14 f2.8 II
5. EF 200 f2L IS
6. EF 800 f5.6L IS

That's 6 new lenses already for this year, I doubt they'll be releasing any more this year. Oh well, until 2008? :confused:

[AdamJL]

Oh I thought you meant in your first post that they can churn out 4-5 Ls per year.

[aero145]

Uuh, I thought there was a difference between realeased and notified or announced...?

16-35L II is out
14L II is not
200L and 800L are not going to be realeased until mid-2008 I think.

So, these are not really 4-5 L realeases.

[EOS Man]

Uuh, I thought there was a difference between realeased and notified or announced...?

16-35L II is out
14L II is not
200L and 800L are not going to be realeased until mid-2008 I think.

So, these are not really 4-5 L realeases.

They may not have been released or selling yet but they do exist - see those live pics of the 200 and 800 L's? Means that the design work has already been put into these lenses. Their design, not release, capacity is around 4-5 a year

[adam LC]

well the lenses that were released this year were designed one or two years ago.... so there's still two-three lenses still to be announced... right????

[aero145]

They may not have been released or selling yet but they do exist - see those live pics of the 200 and 800 L's? Means that the design work has already been put into these lenses. Their design, not release, capacity is around 4-5 a year


And now you change what you said in the first post. Clever. ;)

[Jim G]

Then how come we don't get many new lenses :(
Churn out an updated 100-400 for God's sake.
I'm fast getting tired of it's AF speed. f/5.6 or not, the 400 Prime is a perfect example of a slow lens with fast AF.

Hey, in the past little while we've got an 18-55 IS, 200mm f/2 IS, 800mm f/5.6 IS... and was there a 55-200 IS? That's about four :p

Edit: Oh, and the 14mm II and 16-35 II...

[danielyamseng]

yeah that's true:)

[KAS]

I bet I could design a hundred new lenses by the end of the week!

[I Simonius]

Canon says on their L minisite that their lens department is only able to churn out max 4-5 new lens designs a year. Any comments?

Huge amount of R&D and expense I imagian:D

[TitusvilleSurfer]

I bet I could design a hundred new lenses by the end of the week!
I bet you couldn't design a lens anyone would want to manufacture or buy within a year.

[GJFD]

Ooops output limit reached?

1. EF 16-35 f2.8L II
2. EF-S 18-55 IS
3. EF-S 55-250 IS
4. EF 14 f2.8 II
5. EF 200 f2L IS
6. EF 800 f5.6L IS

That's 6 new lenses already for this year, I doubt they'll be releasing any more this year. Oh well, until 2008? :confused:

4 are L lenses only. Right?

1. EF 16-35 f2.8L II
4. EF 14 f2.8 II
5. EF 200 f2L IS
6. EF 800 f5.6L IS


I think there is room for one more, since I don´t think their consider the EF-S like an L lense.

[John_TX]

4 are L lenses only. Right?

1. EF 16-35 f2.8L II
4. EF 14 f2.8 II
5. EF 200 f2L IS
6. EF 800 f5.6L IS


I think there is room for one more, since I don´t think their consider the EF-S like an L lense.

I wouldn't count either of the EF-S lenses nor the 16-35 & 14 f2.8 (and possibly even the 200 f2) since all they did was either tweak a pre-existing design some and/or simply drop-in the IS mechanism. The only lens that was a real "design" issue was the EF 800 since, to my knowledge, they've never made a lens at this focal length.

Everything else was just optimizing the ground work they had already laid with previous lenses. I'd say by now, Canon has a diverse enough design portfolio that new lenses within this current range should be fairly easy to crank out.

[AngryCorgi]

I wouldn't count either of the EF-S lenses nor the 16-35 & 14 f2.8 (and possibly even the 200 f2) since all they did was either tweak a pre-existing design some and/or simply drop-in the IS mechanism. The only lens that was a real "design" issue was the EF 800 since, to my knowledge, they've never made a lens at this focal length.

Everything else was just optimizing the ground work they had already laid with previous lenses. I'd say by now, Canon has a diverse enough design portfolio that new lenses within this current range should be fairly easy to crank out.

Actually the new 200mm is very different from the old 200mm in many respects, particularly optical formula. The 14mm seems the most unchanged, but the old 14mm was a floating focus system, whilst the new 14mm seems to have drifted from that setup.

[CoolToolGuy]

The only lens that was a real "design" issue was the EF 800 since, to my knowledge, they've never made a lens at this focal length.


Check here - http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/lens/nfd/data/135-800/nfd_800_56l.html

Have Fun,

[John_TX]

Check here - http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/lens/nfd/data/135-800/nfd_800_56l.html

Have Fun,

Wow, that's pretty neat! I bet most of their current optic engineers were still in grade school when that was designed!

[CoolToolGuy]

Wow, that's pretty neat! I bet most of their current optic engineers were still in grade school when that was designed!

Yeah, sort of like learning from the Hieroglyphs. . . :lol:

Have Fun,

[chris_arnet]

they dont list the 1200mm?

[Jim G]

they dont list the 1200mm?

It's there under the EF lens section...

[John_TX]

It's there under the EF lens section...

I didn't see it listed on the Canon USA website (under the super telephoto part of the EF section), but you can find it by searching for 1200mm.

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&tabact=SupportDetailTabAct&fcategoryid=216&modelid=8178#ModelDetailAct

[Mark0159]

I am surpised it's that high.

I would have thought that canon would spend a lot of time designing and testing any new lens that they ever think of making. esp in the L series, I could see that they would want to make sure each lens is of the quality that they are happy with.

just remember that when you see a new product coming out on the market, that the design would have gone thru 100's of people hands. prototypes would have been made, tested, made and then retested again.

the colour would have been tested, the AF would have been tested. they would have tested it in high temp and in low temp. they would have dropped it and tested it, they would have done so many tests it's not funny.

[shotpoint]

Canon says on their L minisite that their lens department is only able to churn out max 4-5 new lens designs a year. Any comments?

Are you sure?..What canon slr's can it support?...Can it be used for Canon 400D?

[EOS Man]

Wow, that's pretty neat! I bet most of their current optic engineers were still in grade school when that was designed!

LOL!:lol:

[jsanz11]

I'm still hoping canon would one day make a 120-300 f.8 like sigmas lens.
-Joey

[Colorblinded]

4-5 new lenses a year sounds quite impressive. That's a bunch of R&D.

[mattograph]

They can do 5 lens a year, but only 1 5D every three years.

sigh........

[mladams]

I think a lot of people underestimate just how much it takes to design a new lense or camera. The optics is just one part of a very complex piece of equipment. If you even move or adjust one lens inside the assembly one mm in either direction the entire lens assembly has to change, then you have to consider length of the assembly, weight, center of gravity and all of that for any type of mounts it may need. Then comes the electronics. The communications between the camera, lens, and flash are very complex. That and changing any component of the camera (ex. digic II to digic III) requires a redesign of the entire circuit board architecture to maintain a usable body design that the end user will like. Not to mention the first design will never work as planned and additional changes will always be needed after testing. To put out as much equipment as they do is impressive to me. They have to have intelligent engineers and a good amount of them. That's just my perspective as an engineer.