Moving Object

[Loekito]

I just saw a "Pinocchio On Ice", that is a show in which all the performer are perform (dancing and moving) on the top of ice (ice skating).

I use my 300D and 50mm f1.8 Mk.II, Set to "M" mode (about 1/125sec and f/1.8 to f/2.0) to make it wide open since the low light condition of the stage.

It really damn hard to get the moving object (the performer) into focus when they moving while they dancing (moving their body, head, legs and hands).

Is it because I'm too uncompeten... or the 300D capability? since the AF Servo cannot function in "M" mode, only in Sport mode.

Is it need to use more advance camera like 10D?

Please advise..

regards,

Loekito

[robertwgross]

I would not expect the 10D to perform dramatically different. Part of Autofocus is in the camera body, and part is in the lens.

If you get another chance at the same subject, try shooting in Sports mode. Basically, that cranks the shutter speed up fast, and brings the lens aperture to wide open. Then the Autofocus setting is different there.

Set ISO to 800 or more.

---Bob Gross---

[cmM]

Yea... it's hard focusing on stuff like that. Second time you will try it, you'll be able to focus better. I know for sure I have improved at tracking RC airplanes and other moving objects. Practice plays a part too.

[Loekito]

Robert,
Isn't there any difference in term of the hardware between the 300D and 10D. Didn't 10D have more robust auto focus engine?

I don't have faith in ISO more than 200. from my experience, starting from ISO 400, the grainy will shown up, especialy in the dark area.

btw, I really amazed with the picture from Pekka Saarinen (TUSKA 2004) in which he said that he use ISO > 1000, and the picture is still clean from noise. Is it because not in the low light situation? or is it because of the 1D Mark II?

The reason why I don't want to use Sports mode, is because I want to shoot in RAW, in which cannot use any basic modes.


cmM,
Can you tell me what is the setting you're using on your rebel to capture RC airplanes?


Thanks for the replies... really appreciated it.

regards,

Loekito

[Loekito]

Robert,
Isn't there any difference in term of the hardware between the 300D and 10D. Didn't 10D have more robust auto focus engine?

I don't have faith in ISO more than 200. from my experience, starting from ISO 400, the grainy will shown up, especialy in the dark area.

btw, I really amazed with the picture from Pekka Saarinen (TUSKA 2004) in which he said that he use ISO > 1000, and the picture is still clean from noise. Is it because not in the low light situation? or is it because of the 1D Mark II?

The reason why I don't want to use Sports mode, is because I want to shoot in RAW, in which cannot use any basic modes.


cmM,
Can you tell me what is the setting you're using on your rebel to capture RC airplanes?


Thanks for the replies... really appreciated it.

regards,

Loekito

[Canuck]

Here is another reason I shoot manual, I plain hate AF and it for me, without fail screws something up. Try manual focusing and it should solve the problem. I can't imagine it being harder to follow than a 600 knot flyover by an F/A-18 Super Hornet.

[cmM]

cmM,
Can you tell me what is the setting you're using on your rebel to capture RC airplanes?
Manual mode, RAW, ISO 100-200... the amount of light is quite different though.
look on my website for an RC airplanes gallery (under galleries).

The camera and lens DO make a difference. Wanna see the difference? Compare my RC airplanes with Scott Berger's photos. I think he uses a MkII w/a 100-400 L.

Another thing: go ahead and use higher ISO speeds to. If you expose properly, the image will be clean...if not, God bless Neat Image.

[robertwgross]

Isn't there any difference in term of the hardware between the 300D and 10D. Didn't 10D have more robust auto focus engine?


I believe that the 10D and 300D are very similar, but I don't know that they are exactly the same. I also believe that they are both better than my older D60?

However, for the situation that you describe, it seemed like you need to crank up the ISO, crank up the shutter speed, and let the aperture go fairly wide open. That won't give you any tremendous depth of field, so if the skaters are rapidly going toward you or away from you, then it won't work as good as if they are skating from side to side in front of you (and therefore probably staying within a narrow depth of field).

---Bob Gross---

[nosquare2003]

Robert,
Isn't there any difference in term of the hardware between the 300D and 10D. Didn't 10D have more robust auto focus engine?

I don't have faith in ISO more than 200. from my experience, starting from ISO 400, the grainy will shown up, especialy in the dark area.



I don't think that 10D will help if you cannot do the autofocus by a 300D. The ISO1600 for 10D/300D is very usable if you do not underexpose the photos.

Perhaps, it's not easy for a 10D/300D in your situation. Focus on higher contrast things may help.

BTW, the 50/1.8 is also slow in autofocus. Perhaps changing to an L lens help more than changing from 300D to 10D...