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EOSAddict
14th of October 2007 (Sun), 15:46
Here is the FAQ for Volume 2 of the POTN Photo Book. Any questions, please post below or contact one of the Book Committee. Full details of the Book Team are listed here:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=385710

The Official Terms and Conditions can be found here:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=392286

FAQ

1. How much will the book cost? What about shipping, I hear that blurb shipping for non-US customers is horrendous?

Our price point is $40 plus P&P for a 160 page book although we may consider a 200 page book for $48 if there is interest.

Blurb have worked hard to improve shipping options for it's non USA customers. They have recently posted this on their site:

Quote:
New, Cheaper Shipping Options From Blurb
When Blurbarians ask for something, we look into it.
You recently asked for better shipping rates. After much research, we're excited to offer two new shipping options via the Swiss Post:
Swiss Post Economy and Priority.
Using the Swiss Post allows us to dramatically reduce shipping rates to Asia, Australia, Europe, and New Zealand.
If you'd like to see some examples of these new shipping rates, check out this blog post.
http://recp.mkt32.net/ctt?kn=1&m=547...&b=2&j=MzcyODM (http://recp.mkt32.net/ctt?kn=1&m=547283&r=MTM5NjUzMzI3OAS2&b=2&j=MzcyODM) 4MDMS1&mt=1
It's important to know that the Swiss Post shipping method isn't trackable like the UPS method we offer. Once your books leave the printer, you will not be able to follow the delivery status or troubleshoot lost orders. Keep this in mind when you order books needed in a timely manner.
To learn more, take a look at our updated Pricing and Shipping page.
http://recp.mkt32.net/ctt?kn=6&m=547...&b=2&j=MzcyODM (http://recp.mkt32.net/ctt?kn=6&m=547283&r=MTM5NjUzMzI3OAS2&b=2&j=MzcyODM) 4MDMS1&mt=1

2. How much profit are you guys making anyway?

Nothing. Nobody is making a profit on this (except the printing company!).

3. Will I get paid if my picture is published?

No, this is purely a POTN community thing. The Terms and Conditions are clear, by submitting an image you waive any expectation or right to remuneration for any use of your image by the Book Committe and POTN, including its publication in the book.

4. How many pages will be in the book? How many photos is that?

Current plans are for a 160 page book (like Volume 1) but depending on the number of submissions we receive we may consider increasing the book to 200 pages (which would push the price up to $48 ). If so, we would seek some views from the forum. 160 pages is approximately 260 images.

5. How many pages will the <insert> Share get? How many photos is that?

We will decide the size of each Share's book chapter on the number of image submissions we receive. We believe this most accurately reflects POTN and the interest in the Book Project. However, this may produce some very uneven results, so we reserve the right to even things up a bit.

6. How do I submit an image for the contest / for the book?

There will be a submission website setup at http://volume2.24zero.com/ through which you will be able to sign up to the Terms and Conditions and provide all the necessary information about you and your images. All photographers can submit to any or all Share categories, but will be allowed to submit only 1 photo per Share. Each image can only be submitted once. Be sure to pick your very best images! The Selection Panel will be looking for the very best that POTN has to offer, and we want to capture the spirit of POTN in the images we publish. Images published in Volume 1 are not eligible for resubmission!

7. What size should the image be for the contest / for the book?

Images should be submitted as JPEG files at maximum (no lower than 10 in PS or equivalent) quality in sRGB colour space, EXIF intact, at a resolution of exactly 2574 pixels on the longest side. Images submitted must not have a frame or any visible watermark. Images of incorrect size will be rejected by the submission website. Cropping is allowed, but bear in mind the Book format suits 'standard' ratio images best. The reason we ask for this size is so we do not have to ask for resubmitted images. 2574 pixels is the largest size that will be printed in the book. If your image's native resolution is less than this you will need to upsize your image. If not sure how, contact one of the Book Team for advice.

8. How should I process my image?

Post process it so that it looks as good as it can get so long as it remains fundamentally a photographic image. Bearing mind this will be a photo book so heavily post-processed images may not find favour with the selection panel or the forum voters. You should do any capture sharpening you wish but NO output sharpening should be done. Images will be automatically be resized to 800px by smugmug for public forum vote.

9. Why are you guys doing the output sharpening?

We will not be able to do the book layout until we have all the photos that will be in it. In order to be flexible in the design of the book we will have to size images to fit the best possible layout. Proper sharpening is dependent on the size of the image and the print method, so it is best done after the final layout has been done.

10. But I'm very good with sharpening and I want to sharpen my own photo!

Again, we can't possibly know the final layout in advance so we will have to resize images to fit the final layout and do the output sharpening at that time. You are still allowed to do capture/creative sharpening.

11. I have no idea how to post-process my photo for the book! What do I do?

Don't worry. Submit your image, and let us know. We will have a group of skilled Photoshop volunteers who are willing to help out in such situations.

12. Who voted for you guys anyway?

We volunteered our services to support and run this project and anyone who has done so has been able to contribute as much or as little as they wish. A core of POTN Members have taken on the running of the Project with support from many POTN’ers.

13. Who voted for the members on the Selection Panel?

Mostly they volunteered their services following several threads (mainly this one http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=372685 (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=372685))
We also looked for members who have shown a skill with photography and who also have shown a serious involvement in the POTN community. We then asked a bunch of these folks to volunteer, and most did.

14. Who are they anyway?

An up to date list of the whole Book Project Team can be found here:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=385710

15. How will my photo be used?

Submitted images will be hosted in a private web gallery for Panel Selection and then in a public web gallery if selected for public forum voting. Other than this selection process the image will only be used for publication in the Book and we may post or link some images on POTN.
16. What is the position on releases for images published in the Book?

We did a lot of work on this issue for Volume 1 and here is what we believe is the definitive position.

Two key quotes from "Photographer's Legal Guide" are:

“You don’t need a model release if the photo is used editorially, which includes news items, textbooks, and public interest items.”

“Courts traditionally have defined public interest or newsworthiness in liberal and far-reaching terms, not limiting it to the dissemination of news in the sense of current events. They have extended it well beyond that to include all types of factual, educational and historical data, even including entertainment and amusement and other interesting phases of human activity in general.”

The POTN Book falls into this editorial category.

Of course it's not as simple as that, as a few rules concerning privacy rights still apply. In short, in the United States the privacy rights state that:

1. One can not intrude upon another's solitude
2. One can not publicly disclose private facts
3. One can not portray another in a false light
4. One can not use another name or likeness to obtain some benefit.

The first three are easy to understand and should be clear in a photograph. Since the book is not making a profit for anyone affiliated with POTN no photographer will receive any benefit from publishing a photo in this book.

Some countries - notably France - have even more strict privacy rights. A photo taken of someone - even in a public place - in France can not be published since this is considered an invasion of privacy.


Therefore our submission rules are as follows:

a. It is up to the photographer to ensure that none of the 4 privacy rights have been violated concerning the submitted photo. If the Panel Members or Book Committee have any doubts the submission will be rejected unless a model release is available.

b. Photographs of people taken in the country of France, and other countries with strict privacy rights, can not be submitted to the Book Project without a model release.

c. If the photographer already has a model release then the publication of the photo in the POTN Book must be allowed by the release.

d. If you have a photograph taken at an event (concert, auto race) that allows photography only for personal use, or otherwise prohibits photo publication, then you can not submit an image from that event.

e. If a work of art (including paintings and sculptures) is depicted in the photograph, it is up to the photographer to ensure the copyright of that work, in the country that photograph was taken, is not infringed by publication, or to provide a property release. Note that some countries restrict reproduction even of publicly displayed art.

f. Model and/or Property Releases still be required if any Panel Members or Book Committee members have any doubts about a photo. If a release can not be provided the photo will be rejected. This decision will be final.

References:

"Photographer’s Legal Guide" by Carolyn E. Wright, Esq.
This book is about $20 for softcover or $10 for an ebook version. It is an excellent reference for professional photographers and others interested in photographers rights.
http://www.photoattorney.com/

Wikipedia - Privacy Rights
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_privacy

Information on two cases involving publication of people's images:
Nussenzweig v. DiCorcia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nussenzweig_v._DiCorcia
Same case, with additional info on "Arrington vs New York Times"
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/19/ar...rssnyt&emc=rss

17. How long will the Panels take to decide on the final images?

See FAQ #55.

18. I really want a book to give to <friends/family> but I think they might be offended by some of the shots in the Glamour & Nude section... what do I do?

We plan to publish two versions of the book this time. One version will exclude the G&N section to cover exactly this situation. We understand this will be frustrating for those with images in G&N but believe that, following feedback on Volume 1, this is the best way forward to ensure the book is seen by as many people as possible.

19. How long do I have to submit my photos?

We are allowing a month, from Midnight on 31 Oct to Midnight on 30 Nov 07.

20. What will happen then?

The Selection Panel will will ensure that each of the photos submitted is of high quality and will represent POTN in its best light. Photos that pass this initial technical and suitability evaluation will be placed in a public gallery. A public poll will take place, one for each Share, and the public's votes will decide one-half of the photos to go into the book. The other half will be selected by the Selection Panel from the remaining photos. In this way, we can ensure a selection of high quality photos that pass both Selection Panel and public approval.

The selected photos will be placed into galleries and put up to public vote within POTN. Note that all voters must have a POTN join date of 1 Nov 07 or earlier. Each voter will be allowed to pick their favourite photos in a poll thread in the appropriate Share.

21. This is a Canon forum, but I have a picture taken on a <non-Canon camera> can I still submit it?

Absolutely. We make no distinction, the only criteria is that you are a POTN Member on or before 1 Nov 07. There were several images in Volume 1 taken on non-Canon and non-Digital cameras. All judging and voting is done on the image and its merits so no-one will know anyway (despite what you read in the equipment forums :wink:)

22. Why do you insist on up to 50 words narrative.. I can't write for toffee?

In Volume 1 we felt that good narrative really helped with the forum community aspect of the book. Therefore we really want people to submit something with their image. There is no set format, it could be where it was, what mood you were in, some unusual detail of the image or some technical stuff - we don't mind. If you are no Shakespeare don't worry/panic either. We have a great editor who can knock your words into shape.. just give us the info to work on.

23. What if there are too many votes? What if there are not enough?

The Panel Members and the Committee will make final decisions on the photos, using the votes as guidelines. The Book Committee has the final say

24. The contest is over - what happens now?

We will need to design the book and do all the necessary ordering of images to ensure the overall look of the book is good. This will take several months so be patient.. we will keep you updated on progress with regular postings on POTN.

25. I won a spot in the book! What do I have to do now?

Nothing. We will announce which images have been selected but since you provided us with a full size image and all the supporting information when you submitted, you need do nothing now. However, towards the end of the design process, we will ask you to proof your entry.

26. Why does it take so long to design the book?

To ensure a quality product we need to get the design right first time as opportunities for proofing are minimal. We also need to do our best to colour match all the images for print, do the necessary sharpening.

27. I won the contest! Yay! What page will my photo be on?

If you won the contest for the Share Section your image will be the 'Signature' Image for that section of the book. That means it will be the only image on the front page of that section.

28. Hey, I got 4th place but I'm on the 6th page! Why??

Once the Signature Shot is chosen, all other winning photos are considered equal and will be placed in the Book in a way that complements the design and layout of the Book.
29. When will I be able to order the book?

Probably by end May 08 but we will keep you updated as the project progresses.

30. How do I order the book?

It will be available through Blurb.com.

31. I got my book but it's damaged!

Email Blurb. They have pretty good customer service and generally will replace below standard books.

32. My photo is smaller than I wanted!

Due to design and layout restrictions we can not guarantee that every photo will be at a particular size, but we will certainly do our best to print the largest size possible.

33. I don't think the quality is very good...

We thoroughly researched the project and checked over 30 publishing companies. Considering the answers to the polls - where most people showed that they wanted a high quality book at a decent price - we narrowed the search to 3 companies. Sample books were ordered from all 3, and the best quality company was chosen. Blurb has had good reviews elsewhere and the sample we received certainly met our requirements for quality and price. The feedback from Volume 1 has certainly been positive.

34. Hey, this is GREAT! Who do I thank?

I'd like to thank my agent, my manager, my family.. Seriously, consider making a donation to POTN.

35. Are there any specific exclusions I need to know about for images that might get published?

Any shot taken in Madagascar between the hours of 11 p.m. and 7 a.m. local will result in the immediate loss of chocolate privileges for two weeks and It is considered rude to take pictures of the left ear of anyone with Luxembourg citizenship."

Seriously, Any picture that would be suitable for posting on POTN is suitable for submission to the Book Project. We apply the same guidelines as the POTN Moderators on image suitability and appropriateness for the Share the image is submitted in

36. Where are we going to store the submitted photos?

Images will be stored by the respective Image Managers for each share - on their hard drive and in a web Gallery provided to us for this project free by smugmug.com (thanks guys!)

37. What do the Image Managers do?

Image Managers will receive all images for their Share Selection from the submission website. They will then collate and store the images, before uploading them to a private web gallery on our smugmug site. After the initial Panel Selection, the images will be moved to a public web gallery on our smugmug site for POTN voting. The IM will also create and monitor the voting thread for that Share on POTN as well as the image selection by the Panel.

38. What do the Panel Members do?

Selection Panel members will first be evaluating the technical quality of the submitted images to ensure they are suitable for book publication and that the images are suitable and in keeping with the overall theme and design of the book. All images that pass this initial test will be eligible for public forum voting. Once the Public voting has finished, the Selection Panel will choose the other 50% of images from ALL those that passed technical selection.

39. What does the Book Committee do?

Just think of us as the editors of the book and hands on the Tiller of the overall process. All of us were heavily involved in Volume 1 so we know the likely problems.. We will run the overall process of image submission, voting, collation, design and publishing.

40. How many photos can I submit into the contest?

You can submit one photo in each Share, but you can enter as many Shares as you like. The Committee reserves the right to limit the number of photos published by any Member.

41. What size is the book?

8x10 inches landscape format

42. Can I get softcover? Can I get hardcover?

The book will be hardcover.

43. Can I get the book as a PDF?

No. We decided early on that the aim of the Project was to produce a book. Images can easily seen on POTN.

44. POTN is an international community. Why are there no pictures from West Bokhistanislovia?

None were submitted and/or selected. Images will be selected based on their individual merit.

45. Where do my photos go when I submit them?

They are forwarded to the email account of the respective Image Manager who takes it from there. He will then upload them to our own smugmug account, kindly provided by smugmug especially for this project.

46. Who has access to my photos?

Initially your images will only be accessible to the Panel Members via a password protected web Gallery. Should your image be selected for public vote, an 800px resized version will be published in a public web gallery on our smugmug site http://potn.smugmug.com (http://potn.smugmug.com/).


47. So who provided the gallery hosting for this free of charge?

smugmug.com

48. I volunteered to be an IM, how much server and disk space do I need

You won’t need any server space, all gallery hosting is being done centrally on our smugmug account. You will need sufficient hard disk space for the images. A full size 12 Qual JPG might be close to 10MB. You will, however, need a decent internet connection (at least Broadband) for downloading and uploading images.

49. What are the project timescales?


The current plan for the Project is as follows:

Current Project Timetable:

Nov 1 - Nov 30 - Image Submission Period
Nov 25 - Dec 31 - Gallery organization & PM Voting for technical issues
Jan 1 - Jan 21 - Public Voting
Jan 22 - Feb 12 - Gallery organization & PM Voting
Feb 19 - All photos in book chosen and placed into Galleries
Feb 20 - Apr 21 - Page Assembly, Text Proofing, Photographer Proofing, etc.
Apr 22 - Book Assembly Complete, Book Submitted to printer
May 6 - Receive 1st Draft Copy of book
May 7-29 - Review and edit Draft copy
May 30 - Receive 2nd Draft,
Jun 1- Publicly announce availability


Note: All timings are aspirational and there is no formal commitment to keep to these dates if circumstances otherwise dictate

50. What is the size of the print run?

blurb is an on-demand publishing house so it makes little difference to price or availability if its 1 or 1000 books (there are some volume discounts). We are not bound by a minimum order.

51. What's EXIF, why do we need it, and how do I make sure my photos contain it?

EXIF is data that's embedded into RAW or JPG files by the camera and (sometimes and optionally) image editing software. This contains information about what camera took the shot, when and with what settings. Note, there is no personal data contained within EXIF data unless you want it to be there (and it won't be there unless you really want it to).

We request that images contain EXIF data so that we can see (and print) the settings that that the shot was taken with. This isn't because we don't believe you when you tell us, it just makes it easier to confirm the data you provide in the submission form and, yes, ultimately, it's protection for us (and you) should there ever be any dispute about the images.

You can check for the EXIF within your image editing software, or by using windows (it'll be in the file properties, you might have to view them as "Advanced" info).

Alternatively, you can use the online checker at http://regex.info/exif.cgi or use Opanda's EXIF Viewer in Firefox or IE

For more info (particularly relating to HDR) check out this post and reply:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=4179285&postcount=126

EOSAddict
24th of October 2007 (Wed), 02:40
FAQ #51 updated with more info

EOSAddict
30th of October 2007 (Tue), 14:39
FAQ #6 updated to give Submission Website URL

Bill Pham
3rd of November 2007 (Sat), 11:02
how do i send my images with exif intact. not sure how to and i think the one i submitted has no exif data. when i downsize the image to the require size in dreamweaver it loose the exif data. so if anyone can help me out here would be great.

Bill

EOSAddict
3rd of November 2007 (Sat), 11:03
Bill, I have no experience of dreamweaver.. do you not have PS or similar? What Share did you submit an image for I will check.

Bill Pham
3rd of November 2007 (Sat), 11:05
i submit the ladybug ready to launch photo last nite. and no just dreamweaver and picaso.

Bill

Bill Pham
3rd of November 2007 (Sat), 11:06
ooops sorry forgot to mention i listed in macro section.

Bill

Pete
5th of November 2007 (Mon), 11:30
Q. What happens if (after submitting my shot), I suffer from a bout of guilt about the terrible standard of my post processing skills (find a far better shot in my library) and wish to resubmit something better.

Can we re-submit shots before the cut off, or do you take our first submission and ignore any subsequent submissions?

Scottes
5th of November 2007 (Mon), 12:09
You can re-submit any time before the cut off. Please be sure to PM me, EOSAddict, and the Image Manager for the Share. This will ensure that there are no misunderstandings. We will want to be sure to delete the old image and info. If you fail to PM us all bets are off and we have no idea what will happen. Chances are good that we'll disqualify you for submitting 2 images to a single Share.

The list of Image Managers for the Shares can be found in this thread: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=385710

SuzyView
5th of November 2007 (Mon), 12:17
I got the one from you, Bill, and put it up today. I apologize for being a little slow, due to the Wedding Meet in Albany this weekend. But I'm sure the IM's are all working hard now. Submissions are coming in and seems all is in order.

I met with 18 other POTN members and they all loved Book I and did not know the submissions were happening now. I told them to hurry up so the IM's can get the images ready to go for choosing.

Scottes
5th of November 2007 (Mon), 12:38
I met with 18 other POTN members and they all loved Book I and did not know the submissions were happening now.

What the ?? ?? ?? :shock:

What more can we do to get the word out? We have Announcements in every Share. Many (most?) of the IMs and PMs and BC have it in their Sig. We have threads about the FAQ, the process, etc, etc...

I don't know what else we can do to let people know... Anyone have any ideas (not involving PMs) ??

EOSAddict
5th of November 2007 (Mon), 13:17
I met with 18 other POTN members and they all loved Book I and did not know the submissions were happening now. I told them to hurry up so the IM's can get the images ready to go for choosing.

You can lead a horse to water, but.... ;)

SuzyView
5th of November 2007 (Mon), 13:23
You can lead a horse to water, but.... ;)

Ain't that the truth?:(

Permagrin
5th of November 2007 (Mon), 13:26
something I've been doing (it's not a grand scale or anything) but...I've been visiting more photo threads and if I think they are really wonderful, I just say "wow, that's book quality, you should enter it into the book competition" (or something along those lines). I could put the link in too...

SuzyView
5th of November 2007 (Mon), 13:28
That sounds like a good idea.

Jamie Holladay
5th of November 2007 (Mon), 13:30
something I've been doing (it's not a grand scale or anything) but...I've been visiting more photo threads and if I think they are really wonderful, I just say "wow, that's book quality, you should enter it into the book competition" (or something along those lines). I could put the link in too...
Not a bad idea but becareful of that it could be considered - in the imortal words of Tommy K - "forum spam."

Permagrin
5th of November 2007 (Mon), 13:34
Not a bad idea but becareful of that it could be considered - in the imortal words of Tommy K - "forum spam."

yeah, I am careful (and that's why I haven't included the link)...I'm just commenting on how nice the photo is and maybe they should consider it. You'd be surprised at how many people say "I just don't think my stuff is good enough for the book"....and they don't even bother to submit.

EOSAddict
5th of November 2007 (Mon), 13:43
yeah, I am careful (and that's why I haven't included the link)...I'm just commenting on how nice the photo is and maybe they should consider it. You'd be surprised at how many people say "I just don't think my stuff is good enough for the book"....and they don't even bother to submit.


Arghhh!!! You don't know until you try!

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE submit!

Permagrin
5th of November 2007 (Mon), 13:45
Arghhh!!! You don't know until you try!

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE submit!

trust me, that's what I keep saying...there's some stellar photographers out there who are just shy (believe it or not, my own Puddle being one of them...he's so critical of his work that he just says everything is not book quality).

Longwatcher
6th of November 2007 (Tue), 07:33
I would point out that even my picture made it into the book last year, and although I liked the shot (or I would not have sent in- although I think it is one of the worst in the book* ), I am doing even better this year. So if mine made it, anybody's could.

Also the odds of someone getting a picture in the book are better then the odds of winning the lottery.

And regards FAQ #35, You might want to put in that they need to be appropriate for POTN at least, because I have some shots that even some G&N commitee members might blush at...


* So I may be a bit too critical of myself, but I can't be too bad I made the book.

Scottes
6th of November 2007 (Tue), 07:54
...because I have some shots that even some G&N commitee members might blush at...
Puh-Lease submit these! As many as you like. They might not make it into the Public Vote but at least those of us working on the book will get a cheap thrill.

:lol:

Honestly, submit what you wish. We will be making 2 copies of the book this year - one with nudes and one without. We got a lot of comments about people not wanting their kids to see some of the images that were in Vol 1.

EOSAddict
6th of November 2007 (Tue), 08:01
Longwatcher,

Have just amended FAQ #35 to state that we will apply the same suitabiltiy guidelines as POTN FOrum Mods... but, as Scottes said, submit what you like ;)

papagei
6th of November 2007 (Tue), 09:09
I am new to all this and have an image to submit - but what is the name you want on the file? Username-sharename.jpg - what is share name? I would then use papagei-what?

Scottes
6th of November 2007 (Tue), 09:14
Don't worry about the file name. The submission website script will change the filename. We forgot to delete that line from when we did Volume 1.


Al, FAQ item #7 - need to strike the sentence "Images should be submitted with a filename in the following format: "POTNUSERNAME-SHARENAME.jpg"."

papagei
6th of November 2007 (Tue), 09:34
OK, I uploaded my Beech 18 - hope I did it all correctly!

EOSAddict
6th of November 2007 (Tue), 10:14
FAQ #7 amended.

slartibardfast
7th of November 2007 (Wed), 16:30
I keep on trying to get to the submission page as per the link, but all i keep getting is "internet explorer cant Display the webpage"

Any one know why that might be?

Andy

Scottes
7th of November 2007 (Wed), 17:42
http://volume2.24zero.com/ worked for me...

Maureen Souza
7th of November 2007 (Wed), 17:44
Arghhh!!! You don't know until you try!

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE submit!
I echo that. If nothing else, just submit for the fun of it. We really want everyone to feel a part of this. I don't really care if my photos don't get chosen but I am proud to see them in the line-up:):)

Mgdh
7th of November 2007 (Wed), 18:30
I keep on trying to get to the submission page as per the link, but all i keep getting is "internet explorer cant Display the webpage"

Any one know why that might be?

Andy

I think it may be a DNS issue - I believe maichaelgreen78 had a similar problem and found some way of updating his DNS. I can't find his post at the moment but I have pm'd him in the meantime to see if he can help. I'll get back to you as soon as I can with a solution.

Mgdh
7th of November 2007 (Wed), 18:34
I managed to find Michael's post.

Don't know why this might be an issue but I hope this helps. If not, PM me and I'll see if I can sort out another solution.

Quick update for anyone who might care...

I changed my DNS settings via www.opendns.com (http://www.opendns.com/) and now I can get to the submissions page. Woohoo! :D I don't understand any of it but what the heck! Now I just need to find some photos!

slartibardfast
8th of November 2007 (Thu), 02:01
I think it may be a DNS issue - I believe maichaelgreen78 had a similar problem and found some way of updating his DNS. I can't find his post at the moment but I have pm'd him in the meantime to see if he can help. I'll get back to you as soon as I can with a solution.

thanks - i will give that a try :D

Andy

Mike
8th of November 2007 (Thu), 04:07
Here I am...ah you've found the link...yes, I changed the numbers in the DNS settings to the ones provided by this website and everything worked a treat. Hope this worked for you - let us know.

slartibardfast
8th of November 2007 (Thu), 16:52
Hope this worked for you - let us know.

i wont be allowed to put new network programmes on my work laptop so i am still unable to access the site. any one know of any other ways?

Andy

Mgdh
8th of November 2007 (Thu), 17:02
I'm waiting for a response from my server hosts to a query that may allow me to use my site as a backup. At present (my site, not the main site) won't handle files larger than 2MB :(

Scottes
8th of November 2007 (Thu), 18:32
i wont be allowed to put new network programmes on my work laptop so i am still unable to access the site. any one know of any other ways?

Andy
No web browsers allowed?? ??

If it's a DNS thing you can try by IP address:
http://x.x.x.x/

OOPS: No you can't. Darned virtual hosting is using the hostname to determine which page to display. Bummer.

Mgdh
8th of November 2007 (Thu), 18:38
I've just had a look at the 'openDNS' site. It doesn't require you to install anything on your computer, just to change the DNS settings. You can change these back once you have submitted if you like/need.

Unless work have locked you away from these settings, you should be able to do this.

What OS are you using? Windows, they cover all flavours. Macs seem to be covered too. Linux, theres one guide on there - if that doesn't work, PM me and I'll see what I can find on my system.

EOSAddict
9th of November 2007 (Fri), 02:16
You have a PM slartibardfast

Time Thief
9th of November 2007 (Fri), 02:53
Book Committee, question, can a photo that is two photos combined be submitted? As an example, I have a photo of my son(15months) followwing my father in the yard. In the upper left corner of the pic I put another pic, taken right after the first, of my father handing my son a ball they were going to get. Neither pic is great on its own but combined make a good compilation.

Suggestion for the book. In the FAQ it states that the number of winning entries by a particular member may be limited. I think it should be limited to ONE per member. If a member gets a pic in more than one section then ask said member which they would like to be their entry into the book. The next place entry in the other sections would then become an included pic. Limiting the number of pics per member in the book to ONE would give more members a photo in the book.
There were several members who had multiple pics in vol 1 and it didn't seem right even though the photos were voted on. Some had at least 3, if memory serves correct, maybe more. Thanks for listening and answer to my question. Mark

EOSAddict
9th of November 2007 (Fri), 03:01
Thanks Mark,

Without seeing the photo all I can do is refer you to T&C #5.

5. All images submitted must be the original work of the photographer submitting them and must not be derivative works. Digitally enhanced images will be accepted provided the original source image is the work of the entrant. Please remember that this is a photography forum, not a Photoshop forum. Photographs that appear to have extreme post-processing modifications may not be selected by the Panel at the Panel's discretion. Standard post-processing such as RAW processing or equivalent (curves, levels etc) cropping and techniques such as HDR are permitted). It is the responsibility of each entrant to ensure that any images they submit have been taken with the permission of the subject and do not infringe the copyright of any third party nor any national laws or local by-laws.

Submit and see!

As for your other question there are two parts to the answer, the easy one first. Practically, having to select one from possibly several selected images will cause chaos in the Book Team.. this is exactly the reason why we have limited people to one submission per share in Vol 2 whereas you were allowed to submit 2 per share for Vol 1. Secondly, if a photog is good enough to get several images selected across a range of subjects, I have no issue with them being published. For Vol 1 we are increasing the number of pages and hence the number of published photos.

There were several people who had more than 1 image published, one had 7. I quite like the fact that, anonymously, this forum identified the talent that we have here... No one knew who the images belonged to until after thewy had been selected.

Clearly this is just my opinion, but I am on the Book Committee ;) And such issues are always under review for the subsequent volumes. Hope this helps, feel free to come back!

slartibardfast
9th of November 2007 (Fri), 14:36
You have a PM slartibardfast


Thanks for that - funnly enough i am at my friends house and ive managed to get onto the site. not sure why i could not at home but im there at the mo :D

Hopefully when i get home it will let me in from now on

Cheers for the help

Andy

Mgdh
9th of November 2007 (Fri), 18:01
It really does sound like a DNS issue with your ISP. Not that they'll ever admit it :roll:

skrezyna
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 22:39
Hey all,

I dont see anywhere where I can upload my image on the form page:

http://volume2.24zero.com/

My apologies if I missed it.

Dan

Permagrin
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 22:40
Hey all,

I dont see anywhere where I can upload my image on the form page:

http://volume2.24zero.com/

My apologies if I missed it.

Dan

fill out the form and at the bottom accept the terms and then click submit. You'll be taken to page to upload your image.

cfpackerfan
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 22:41
Hey all,

I dont see anywhere where I can upload my image on the form page:

http://volume2.24zero.com/

My apologies if I missed it.

Dan
No worries. ;) After filling out the form with all the necessary info, and clicking the T&C box at the bottom, then hitting 'submit', you will be taken to the upload page. :D

cfpackerfan
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 22:53
Looks as though Permie has fingers that are a split second faster than mine. ;) I however, included smilies. :p

Permagrin
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 22:54
Looks as though Permie has fingers that are a split second faster than mine. ;) I however, included smilies. :p

LOL...you got me there...I'm a "just the facts ma'am" :lol:

EOSAddict
18th of November 2007 (Sun), 14:56
OK Folks, the submission period is more than half over and time is running out! Get into your image files and dust off your best.

To inspire you we are opening up a Showcase Gallery of the images submitted to date:

http://potn.smugmug.com/gallery/2356933

Where 12 random submitted images will be displayed, changed on a daily basis.

Don't delay, get submitting... you know you want to! We want Volume 2 to be better than Volume 1

Don't let the opportunity slip by because you think your images aren't good enough! You will never know unless you submit!

dilorenzo1954
19th of November 2007 (Mon), 17:55
I have a stupid question...my original RAW files are in sRGB color space but when I convert them to JPEG they change to RGB. Is this a major problem?

Scottes
19th of November 2007 (Mon), 18:16
They're probably still in sRGB. It may say "RGB" in the photo's title bar, but that's not the color space. Go through the steps to convert to another color space, but don't actually do it - just check the screen where it will tell you the original color space.

EOSAddict
20th of November 2007 (Tue), 02:16
12 new images up in the Showcase Gallery

ClickClick
20th of November 2007 (Tue), 09:34
I have a question (or two)

Should I leave my image the full size right out of the camera :
Width - 48 inches
Height - 32 inches
Resolution - 72 pixel/inch

Or should I change it? If so, to what format?

ClickClick
20th of November 2007 (Tue), 09:35
Also, what if I don't know the EXIF data?

Scottes
20th of November 2007 (Tue), 09:53
Don't be concerned about the DPI/PPI. Just make sure that the image is exactly 2574 pixels on the longer edge.

The EXIF should be embedded in the file. Just make sure that you save it by running File... Save As... and choosing JPG. Do NOT use "Save For Web"


If you have any other questions, or if these answers do not make sense, please let us know what image editing software you are using.

ClickClick
20th of November 2007 (Tue), 10:02
Don't be concerned about the DPI/PPI. Just make sure that the image is exactly 2574 pixels on the longer edge.

The EXIF should be embedded in the file. Just make sure that you save it by running File... Save As... and choosing JPG. Do NOT use "Save For Web"


If you have any other questions, or if these answers do not make sense, please let us know what image editing software you are using.

I have PSCS2 and saved it as .jpg

Since the WIDTH is the longest end, I should make sure that is exactly 2574 and the HEIGHT will automatically adjust the ratio to this variable when inputted correct?

(also side note, I can't find the thread of the POTN Book 1 that had the photo selections listed in the thread.)

Scottes
20th of November 2007 (Tue), 10:08
You should be OK on EXIF.

And yes, the height will automatically adjust as long as the check box is clicked. I think it says "preserve aspect ratio" ?? If you don't check this box it will be immediately apparent that it's wrong, since then the width will change but the height will not.


(also side note, I can't find the thread of the POTN Book 1 that had the photo selections listed in the thread.)
I'm not sure what you mean by this...? Then again, I'm at work so I might not be thinking clearly. :-)

ClickClick
20th of November 2007 (Tue), 10:17
I'm not sure what you mean by this...? Then again, I'm at work so I might not be thinking clearly. :-)


There was a thread somewhere that contained the images and photographers who are featured in the POTN Volume 1 book. I looked over it briefly and now I can't seem to find it despite searching.

Scottes
20th of November 2007 (Tue), 10:39
Try this:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=299855

ClickClick
20th of November 2007 (Tue), 12:12
Try this:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=299855


That is the one. Many thanks.

Also, I just submitted my image. Feel free to crop it if need be for better presentation. (Provided it is even good enough to be included.)

whiskaz
23rd of November 2007 (Fri), 17:21
I checked the FAQ over and didn't find (or missed) the answer to this question:

I have a shot that could fall under People or B&W (go figure). I've already submitted an image for People but am considering this B&W shot for that particular category - it just so happens to be of a person. Is that OK? I have other B&W shots that are not people-oriented, but they all sort of fall under various other categories too. That particular section is kind of open for cross-category submissions. Glamour too, sort of.

Scottes
23rd of November 2007 (Fri), 20:45
Yep, we get a lot of this. Being B&W it's probably safe in B&W, and a glamor shot would probably be safe if it was in G&N.

It will be up to the Panel Members to decide, of course, depending on each picture individually. The thing to think about with the B&W is: Is the focus B&W, or does it just happen to be in B&W? If you took a color shot and simply converted it to B&W to fit it into another Share then it might not work out. But if you put good B&W conversion techniques into the processing, and it shows, then that's a different story.

By the same idea, surprising your sweetie by taking a snapshot while she's wearing lingerie might not be considered Glamour & Nude. Sure, the attire makes it fit into G&N, but it's still a snapshot, right?

In the end, though, each photo will be judged by the Panel Members on it's own merits. If if it passes them, then the Public votes on it.

puddlepirate44
23rd of November 2007 (Fri), 20:50
Yep, we get a lot of this. Being B&W it's probably safe in B&W, and a glamor shot would probably be safe if it was in G&N.

It will be up to the Panel Members to decide, of course, depending on each picture individually. The thing to think about with the B&W is: Is the focus B&W, or does it just happen to be in B&W? If you took a color shot and simply converted it to B&W to fit it into another Share then it might not work out. But if you put good B&W conversion techniques into the processing, and it shows, then that's a different story.

By the same idea, surprising your sweetie by taking a snapshot while she's wearing lingerie might not be considered Glamour & Nude. Sure, the attire makes it fit into G&N, but it's still a snapshot, right?

In the end, though, each photo will be judged by the Panel Members on it's own merits. If if it passes them, then the Public votes on it.

Which is a lot better than the original plan which was to put all the photos into a big Bingo like bin, spin it for a while, and then randomly put shots into whatever share came up. It was fun for a while in the Book Crew forum until Scottes and Al rigged the system and kept getting "Blackout Bingo" all the time. :rolleyes:

whiskaz
23rd of November 2007 (Fri), 20:56
Yep, we get a lot of this. Being B&W it's probably safe in B&W, and a glamor shot would probably be safe if it was in G&N.

It will be up to the Panel Members to decide, of course, depending on each picture individually. The thing to think about with the B&W is: Is the focus B&W, or does it just happen to be in B&W? If you took a color shot and simply converted it to B&W to fit it into another Share then it might not work out. But if you put good B&W conversion techniques into the processing, and it shows, then that's a different story.

By the same idea, surprising your sweetie by taking a snapshot while she's wearing lingerie might not be considered Glamour & Nude. Sure, the attire makes it fit into G&N, but it's still a snapshot, right?

In the end, though, each photo will be judged by the Panel Members on it's own merits. If if it passes them, then the Public votes on it.

Thanks for the reply! Answered my question :)

Off to photoshop a Porche into my sweetie-wearing-lingerie snapshot so I can retrofit it into Transportation.

EOSAddict
24th of November 2007 (Sat), 08:59
whiskaz,

If it's B&W it's fair game in the B&W share no matter what the subject (subject to normal POTN suitability guidance!)

EOSAddict
25th of November 2007 (Sun), 15:52
12 new shots up in the Showcase Gallery... get inspired! Go look then get your own shots in.. time is running out!

http://potn.smugmug.com/gallery/2356933

wayne_eddy
26th of November 2007 (Mon), 05:06
OK, so I am submitting images this year after kicking myself in the butt for 12 months form not having submitted last year.

I have to submit with 2574pix on the longest side, but how do I calculate that into a 'standard crop size' of 5x7, 6x8, 8x10 etc etc?

Does a:
5x7 become a 2547x 3603.6pix
and a 6x8 become a 2547x 3432pix

Please help, I don't want to have to do all my PP again just because my crop is out.

Also, wasn't the submission time a bit longer last year? I have just come back from 6weeeks overseas without internet connection and was surprised to see submissions had already started. At least I have 4 days to PP and submit, unlike the poor buggar that discovers it on Friday.



Thanks,

EOSAddict
26th of November 2007 (Mon), 05:09
Wayne,

2574 on the LONGEST side in whatever crop ratio you want (ie the pixel size on the short side doesn't matter). Not worried about dpi or anything just pixels.

Actually the submission period is 4 days longer this year, but a whole lot earlier (it was Jan 07 for Vol 1)


Hope this helps.

wayne_eddy
26th of November 2007 (Mon), 05:22
Wayne,

2574 on the LONGEST side in whatever crop ratio you want (ie the pixel size on the short side doesn't matter). Not worried about dpi or anything just pixels.

Actually the submission period is 4 days longer this year, but a whole lot earlier (it was Jan 07 for Vol 1)

Hope this helps.

not really,

I need to know the length of the other side to assist with my cropping.

I think I have worked it out:

A 5x7 crop is 2574 on one side and 7/5 of 2574 (3603.6) on the other.

Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks.

PS: A whole 4 days? Fantastic!

Scottes
26th of November 2007 (Mon), 05:25
Other way around, since 2574 has to be the longer side, that's the 7. Thus the other side is 2574/7*5=1839

But if your photo is already cropped to 5x7, just set one side for 2574 and make sure "constrain aspect ratio" is checked.

wayne_eddy
27th of November 2007 (Tue), 17:01
I have selected several images to submit and am PP'ing them.

The images have to be submitted in sRGB colour profile.

I convert the RAW file to TIFF and process. When finished then change to 8bit format (CS2 won't let you save as jpg in 16bit) and save the file and the only colour option I have is to Save As RGB. HOw can I ask CS2 to save only as sRGB?

Thanks for your assistance.

EOSAddict
27th of November 2007 (Tue), 17:23
sRGB... RGB.. same thing. :) that's what we need.

jpg is by nature 8-bit file anyway.

EOSAddict
30th of November 2007 (Fri), 08:29
For those of you who hit the Server problems last night, all is sorted and Normal Service has been resumed ... so GET SUBMITTING :)

alanw89
30th of November 2007 (Fri), 15:13
I submitted a picture but just realised i put the wrong lens in the lens used box, is there anyway to change it now?

EOSAddict
30th of November 2007 (Fri), 15:15
PM me the details alanw89

eble
1st of December 2007 (Sat), 03:20
hi,
greetings to all of POTN book committee.
i have a question about this:
Images should be submitted with a filename in the following format: "POTNUSERNAME-SHARENAME.jpg".
do you mind explaining me what is a sharename?

thanks!

EOSAddict
1st of December 2007 (Sat), 03:28
eble,

The Sharename is People, Travel& Landscapes etc etc.. but don't worry too much, the submission website now renames your file anyway ;)

eble
1st of December 2007 (Sat), 05:28
submitted, thanks Al! :)

EOSAddict
1st of December 2007 (Sat), 11:09
12 new images up in the Showcase Gallery..

Only 2 more days to submit! Don't Delay ;)

slartibardfast
8th of December 2007 (Sat), 04:26
So how many entries did you have ?

Andy

EOSAddict
8th of December 2007 (Sat), 04:41
nearly 1000 in the end :)

EOSAddict
9th of December 2007 (Sun), 08:57
12 new images up in the Showcase Gallery :)

ClickClick
9th of December 2007 (Sun), 14:25
Will there ever be a page where we can see all the photos submitted?

EOSAddict
9th of December 2007 (Sun), 14:40
No,

When the first round of selection is complete, the images selected will then be shown in Galleries for you to Vote on. This will certainly be by JAauary, but we hope to speed the process up and get the images up for you to see and Vote on by Xmas.

johnstoy
9th of December 2007 (Sun), 17:03
This is "way cool." The anticipation is just part of the excitement... And this most recent Showcase Gallery is also great!

slartibardfast
9th of December 2007 (Sun), 17:48
nearly 1000 in the end :)

Thats a very good response to the comp - and looking at the galleries the pic quality is of an extreamly high standard

Andy

EOSAddict
10th of December 2007 (Mon), 12:30
Ahhh the Dedication.. logged on from my hotel room on my laptop to bring you the next Showcase Gallery Update :)

Robuk
10th of December 2007 (Mon), 16:14
Ahhh the Dedication.. logged on from my hotel room on my laptop to bring you the next Showcase Gallery Update :)

So how are the Bahamas Al ;):D

EOSAddict
10th of December 2007 (Mon), 16:34
Nicer than Blackpool I'm sure ;)

EOSAddict
12th of December 2007 (Wed), 13:57
Showcase Updated :)

EOSAddict
14th of December 2007 (Fri), 12:54
Showcase Updated again

EOSAddict
20th of December 2007 (Thu), 05:49
Sorry for the delay folks... 4 power cuts at home last night took me offline and screwed up my access to the website!

12 new shots in the Showcase ;) enjoy!

silvex
20th of December 2007 (Thu), 18:22
Thanks for ALL of the hard work of a perfect job. Pretty awesome pictures. Looks like fierce competition. Good luck to all!

Epix
4th of January 2008 (Fri), 12:50
Where can I find Vol 1?

EOSAddict
4th of January 2008 (Fri), 13:40
Here,

http://potn.smugmug.com/

or here

http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/invited/48727/4493981dbbdc0998087d6b90127cb64f

Blue Deuce
24th of January 2008 (Thu), 21:05
Whats the next process ?

puddlepirate44
24th of January 2008 (Thu), 21:09
Whats the next process ?

Well, once the charcoals have a nice white ash over them, spread them out level on the bottom of the barbecue. Remember to keep the grill up off of the coals themselves, but use the actual rack as a means of determining the temperature. Sometimes you can put the coals off to one side of the barbecue and the meat on the rack on the other side away from the coals. This works well with poultry. For steaks, it's right over the coals for optimum heat. The trick is to not "carbonize" the outside of the steak before the inside is up to temp.

Hope this helps.

EOSAddict
25th of January 2008 (Fri), 13:41
Whats the next process ?

The Panel will now select the remaining images.

slartibardfast
25th of January 2008 (Fri), 18:44
out of interest, how many from each catagory will get through in total. i know that varies from catagory to gatagory, but take the people catagory for example.

Cheers

Andy

cyber_m0nkey
25th of January 2008 (Fri), 20:35
out of interest, how many from each catagory will get through in total. i know that varies from catagory to gatagory, but take the people catagory for example.

Cheers

Andy

The explanation in the post in the people forum says 37 (out of the 125 submitted).

slartibardfast
26th of January 2008 (Sat), 03:59
thanks

EOSAddict
26th of January 2008 (Sat), 07:09
Slarti,

Overall there will be 296 images in the book broken down as follows:

People 37
PA 13
G&N 9
Sports 17
Msports 13
Birds 29
N&A 37
Macro 21
Trans 25
Urban 25
T& L 41
Still Life 29

Blue Deuce
26th of January 2008 (Sat), 07:58
The Panel will now select the remaining images.

I thought that was what we just did :confused:.

EOSAddict
26th of January 2008 (Sat), 08:13
No,

The public vote will be used to pick half the images. The remaining half will be picked by the Book Selection Panel.

Blue Deuce
26th of January 2008 (Sat), 08:16
No,

The public vote will be used to pick half the images. The remaining half will be picked by the Book Selection Panel.

Thanks for clarifying that.

How much will it cost me to have all my submitted photos selected :lol: ?

EOSAddict
26th of January 2008 (Sat), 08:20
I'll PM you the Swiss bank account details ;)

Blue Deuce
26th of January 2008 (Sat), 08:32
I'll PM you the Swiss bank account details ;)

Thanks. Payment submitted plus a little extra for the negotiated cover photo.

theflyingkiwi
28th of January 2008 (Mon), 02:08
when should we expect to find out if photos we have submitted have made in to the book?

Wazza
28th of January 2008 (Mon), 02:19
So to clarify?

Let's say Landcapes.
41 out of 145 or so images?
So only the top 20/21 by votes go in, and you guys will pick any 20/21 shots of quality merit whether they got many votes or not?

slartibardfast
28th of January 2008 (Mon), 04:37
Slarti,

Overall there will be 296 images in the book broken down as follows:

People 37
PA 13
G&N 9
Sports 17
Msports 13
Birds 29
N&A 37
Macro 21
Trans 25
Urban 25
T& L 41
Still Life 29

Thanks for that info

Andy

EOSAddict
28th of January 2008 (Mon), 05:36
So to clarify?

Let's say Landcapes.
41 out of 145 or so images?
So only the top 20/21 by votes go in, and you guys will pick any 20/21 shots of quality merit whether they got many votes or not?

Pretty much spot on. We hope that this way the resulting book will be a good balance of 'popular' images and the more challenging ones that may not attract huge vote counts.

Bill Pham
28th of January 2008 (Mon), 07:09
are you folks gonna post all the picture that made it in the book on some time soon?

Bill

EOSAddict
28th of January 2008 (Mon), 07:25
When the final selections are made yes.. that will take a couple of weeks or so.

Blue Deuce
28th of January 2008 (Mon), 12:21
Are the signature images chosen by members voting or POTN committe ?

Ospi
30th of January 2008 (Wed), 04:58
ahh i missed out, but the ones that made it are crackers. can't wait to pick this up.

crayfish13
30th of January 2008 (Wed), 17:18
Are the signature images chosen by members voting or POTN committe ?

What are signature images? do you mean cover page, back page and that kind of thing?

theflyingkiwi
30th of January 2008 (Wed), 18:39
What are signature images? do you mean cover page, back page and that kind of thing?

the signature images are the ones that start each chapter. they are normally a full size image, taking up the whole page.

andrewc
31st of January 2008 (Thu), 07:14
one of my images came third in one voting category so am pleased about this. Sounds as if some of my other images which didn't score so well could still get included if the selection panel choose them

cyber_m0nkey
31st of January 2008 (Thu), 10:37
If my images don't get in, then put me down for 1 copy.

If at least 1 of my 2 images get's in then put me down for 5 copies.

If both my images get in, put me down for 10.

If you let me submit more images and include them in the book, then put me down for 20.....

No pressure of course ;)

RTMiller
1st of February 2008 (Fri), 05:58
If none of Cyber_Monkey's images get in, then put me down for 10 copies.

If at least 1 of Cyber_Monkey's 2 images get's in then put me down for 5 copies.

If all of Cyber_Monkey's images get in, put me down for 1.


Just kidding. Couldn't resist. ;)

RTMiller
1st of February 2008 (Fri), 06:03
Oh, and if you let Cyber_Monkey submit more images and include them in the book, then Cyber_Monkey should buy all of us a copy!

kaitanium
2nd of February 2008 (Sat), 04:20
just wondering if the selection process and the book is on schedule?

bazair2air
6th of February 2008 (Wed), 12:56
Are the signature images chosen by members voting or POTN committe ?

I have been wondering this also. Does anyone know how the final sig shots are chosen?

Woolburr
6th of February 2008 (Wed), 13:12
Things on the book are progressing...Panel Members are voting on additional images right now. The signature images are chosen by the vote of the POTN members. Top vote getter becomes the signature shot for the section.

bazair2air
6th of February 2008 (Wed), 17:26
The signature images are chosen by the vote of the POTN members. Top vote getter becomes the signature shot for the section.

YAHOOO!!!!!!!

My photo had the most member votes in the Sports category. Thank you to everyone who voted for my photo!!!!!!!!! This is the first time I have ever won....ANYTHING...Haha!!!!

Thank You!!!
Thank You!!!
Thank You!!!

*(Please note: All bribe checks will be dispersed on the first of the month) :lol:

Rob612
10th of February 2008 (Sun), 13:39
No,

The public vote will be used to pick half the images. The remaining half will be picked by the Book Selection Panel.


Stupid question i know... but say G&N that has 9 images total... the BSP will select 4 or 5 ? Cant select 4.5 for obvious reason (and yes, im REALLY interested since i made 5th :D and im REALLY curious to know if im in or i have to wait for the BSP to know :) Not that it really matters of course, im pretty satisfied of what ive got till now (and btw, thanks everybody for voting my pic). But im awfully curious. And yes, i know that curiosity killed the cat, but as you well know cats have seven or nine lives (seven here in italy, nine in the US afaik) so in both cases i can use one :P

silvex
19th of February 2008 (Tue), 11:53
Any updates on the V2 project ?

kaitanium
19th of February 2008 (Tue), 16:46
all chosen photos were supposed to be due today wasnt it =P

3Turner
19th of February 2008 (Tue), 17:49
all chosen photos were supposed to be due today wasnt it =P
That's right...wonder when they will be uploaded to the gallery.

kaitanium
19th of February 2008 (Tue), 23:25
big things like this, id give people a week after the planned due date to deliver =P

im sure the only ones who are waiting are those who have possible pictures that may be in them, myself included hahaha

Mgdh
20th of February 2008 (Wed), 03:48
Just to let you know, we are on the case but work (I know it's a four letter word - but it does actually pay the bills) has taken a few of us away from our computers at this critical time. Normal service will be resumed shortly ;)

As soon as things are finalised, we'll post announcements in this and the other book threads.

kaitanium
28th of February 2008 (Thu), 13:23
waiting waiting waiting....lalalala

i need me a new coffee table book.

EOSAddict
29th of February 2008 (Fri), 02:15
Sorry guys, things are going a bit slower than we had intended.. but we are still working on it... currently the Committee is working out the final selections. Some news should be forthcoming soon :)

slartibardfast
29th of February 2008 (Fri), 13:24
Sorry guys, things are going a bit slower than we had intended.. but we are still working on it... currently the Committee is working out the final selections. Some news should be forthcoming soon :)

Thanks guys - we appreciate you have day jobs too - its annoying how they get in the way of really important things though :D :D

Andy

Rob612
3rd of March 2008 (Mon), 07:40
Yeah I fully agree with Slart but hey... gotta wait, nothing else to do :) Good luck to everybody !

crayfish13
4th of March 2008 (Tue), 10:10
any chance the gallerie will be uploaded before the march 12, im leaving for galapagoes for 3 week and hopefully ill get some shots for vol 3

EOSAddict
6th of March 2008 (Thu), 12:25
We will do our best... no guarantees!

Rob612
18th of March 2008 (Tue), 10:39
Any news ? :)

kaitanium
19th of March 2008 (Wed), 15:59
a month behind schedule as of today, yes any headway?

theflyingkiwi
19th of March 2008 (Wed), 16:30
give these guys some time. a lot of work goes in to making the book.

also remember that these people also have a life and more importantly a camera.

Bill Pham
19th of March 2008 (Wed), 19:03
give these guys some time. a lot of work goes in to making the book.

also remember that these people also have a life and more importantly a camera.

i am in total agreement with this. just wanted to know if my one entry made it in the book. i think it did but just wanted verify. as long as i know i made it, they could take whatever time frame needed to completed the project.

Bill

RyanCrane
20th of March 2008 (Thu), 16:39
i am in total agreement with this. just wanted to know if my one entry made it in the book. i think it did but just wanted verify. as long as i know i made it, they could take whatever time frame needed to completed the project.

Bill

Troof. I think I got 2 or 3 in based on these numbers EOS mentioned. But I want the official word :)

My coffee table is bare :(

johnstoy
20th of March 2008 (Thu), 16:54
In order to give recognition to a local historic opera house and my friend's band... I submitted his photo from the (Mauch Chunk Opera House). I don't think it made the cut...Next time I'll just post my very best work for consideration.

Blue Deuce
20th of March 2008 (Thu), 18:47
I don't think it made the cut...Next time I'll just post my very best work for consideration.

Why would you do anything else :confused: ?

johnstoy
20th of March 2008 (Thu), 23:44
Why would you do anything else :confused: ?

Just thought I'd be a "nice guy" about it... The old opera house could always use name recognition. It's kind of run down...

My mistake. There are action pics of more famous performers, in great stage lighting from a new venue, that I passed over.

Next year, there will be more to choose from.

EOSAddict
23rd of March 2008 (Sun), 07:26
Guys,

We know we are behind schedule... as has been said, real life has, unfortunately, intruded on our lives this year!

We are very nearly ready to show off the selected images and move into editing and collation.... stand by!

Citizensmith
23rd of March 2008 (Sun), 11:46
Guys,

We know we are behind schedule... as has been said, real life has, unfortunately, intruded on our lives this year!

Lesson learned for next year. Don't set a schedule, then you can't miss it.

SuzyView
23rd of March 2008 (Sun), 11:51
So, is everything up now? I know life is complicated, needed the break myself. Thanks everyone!

EOSAddict
23rd of March 2008 (Sun), 12:47
Just one last issue to sort then we can open the galleries

ErikM
24th of March 2008 (Mon), 13:07
Can't wait to see what images have been chosen!!! Don't think any of mine made it this time but I have some good stuff ready for volume 3 :D

tofuboy
24th of March 2008 (Mon), 19:16
Lesson learned for next year. Don't set a schedule, then you can't miss it.

heh, I like that!


Also, winning images are now public... take a look here:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5183168