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-spam-
28th of March 2008 (Fri), 21:05
The gig may be up ladies and gentlemen. The lens for Canon's is now unavailable from Cameta and the Amazon listing is directly from them for $365.51.
http://www.amazon.com/Sigma-24-60mm-Aspherical-Angle-Cameras/dp/B0002ALDKO/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1206755801&sr=8-1


Ouch, back up to "full price"...


Although the nikon one (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ALDRC/sr=8-1/qid=1206755801/ref=dp_cp_ob_title_1/002-5475171-8197601?ie=UTF8&qid=1206755801&sr=8-1) is still $199 :confused:

DDCSD
28th of March 2008 (Fri), 21:14
Minolta/Sony is only $220!!!! :lol::lol::lol:

-spam-
28th of March 2008 (Fri), 21:18
Minolta/Sony is only $220!!!! :lol::lol::lol:

The first and only cheap and decent lens for the mount haha

rooftopsuicideclub
28th of March 2008 (Fri), 22:59
The gig may be up ladies and gentlemen. The lens for Canon's is now unavailable from Cameta and the Amazon listing is directly from them for $365.51.
http://www.amazon.com/Sigma-24-60mm-Aspherical-Angle-Cameras/dp/B0002ALDKO/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1206755801&sr=8-1

Hope no one was waiting for this to drop to $189.95 again. Not sure if this will get back in stock at Cameta for anywhere near $200 or not, but I am glad that mine is already on my camera.

whoa.
i was just paying my bills and was feeling bad for buying this last week.
now i feel like i made a great decision.

JackProton
28th of March 2008 (Fri), 23:40
Looks like its stil available through Cameta's ebay store for $219.

DDCSD
29th of March 2008 (Sat), 06:16
Looks like its stil available through Cameta's ebay store for $219.

Hmmm... I thought I checked that. Glad it can still be had for a great price. Wonder if they pulled them from Amazon because they are getting really low?

lookingforaname
29th of March 2008 (Sat), 14:43
It's back up at Amazon for 219 . . .

musicmaster
29th of March 2008 (Sat), 15:56
Heres one

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9697/img4067ok2.jpg

DDCSD
29th of March 2008 (Sat), 20:30
It's back up at Amazon for 219 . . .


Whew, the world is now right again. :lol:

mastertech01
29th of March 2008 (Sat), 20:57
The Amazon ad says one left in stock but they have a couple auctions for it too.

Popper
29th of March 2008 (Sat), 21:25
When I bought mine from Cameta a few months ago I had to wait for payday... sure enough the day I was able to buy it it was listed for $389 off Amazon and nothing from Cameta. I just called them and ordered over the phone and they gave me the Amazon price of $189.00. I just told them I was going to order but didn't see it listed through them and they just put my order through.

GimpyPoop
30th of March 2008 (Sun), 11:01
There's still this deal alive on Amazon -
http://www.amazon.com/Sigma-24-60mm-CapKeeper-6-Piece-Cleaning/dp/B000VJVHMA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1206892805&sr=8-2

drock220
31st of March 2008 (Mon), 01:36
fill free to comment

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2277/2375908293_1cac00d518_b.jpg

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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2299/2375933455_a952c45a99_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2029/2376761692_7a1e32264f_b.jpg

Jason C
31st of March 2008 (Mon), 02:54
This lens does seem quite tempting to me, and I'm thinking about selling off my 17-85 and buying the Sigma.

However, the hit-and-miss nature of a good copy keeps me wary of going through with a Sigma purchase.

I really want to like the 24-60, but don't want to get the lens only to have to ship it off a few days later for calibration.

Anyway, this is a great and informative thread. Thanks to all of you posting your images and tests...I am glued to this thread.

Thanks.

Jason

Citizensmith
31st of March 2008 (Mon), 11:20
This lens does seem quite tempting to me, and I'm thinking about selling off my 17-85 and buying the Sigma.

However, the hit-and-miss nature of a good copy keeps me wary of going through with a Sigma purchase.

I really want to like the 24-60, but don't want to get the lens only to have to ship it off a few days later for calibration.

Anyway, this is a great and informative thread. Thanks to all of you posting your images and tests...I am glued to this thread.

Thanks.

Jason

If you have any issues with it, dealing with them will cost you about $10 and about 7 to 10 days. Mine had something come apart inside so had to be shipped off. Still a good lens though, and even with the extra $10 still well worth the cost.

eeeksNYC
31st of March 2008 (Mon), 11:28
FWIW, I've been shooting with this lens almost every day since I got it with nary a hiccup.

*keeping fingers crossed*

pointerDixie214
31st of March 2008 (Mon), 15:18
Ordered this one last night for $220 delivered... waiting for the email that says it has shipped!!! I hope it's here by this weekend so I cam play with it with the new 30D!!!

bauerman
31st of March 2008 (Mon), 15:40
Anyone have any experience (or sample shots that they can post) of this lens being used for architectural photos? I took some shots of the LDS Temple in SLC, Utah over the weekend and it looks as if it is about to tip over in a large percentage of them. I don't think that I hold my camera that skeewompas. I know that this is a common thing when shooting wide angle at tall buildings - but I have a lot of correcting to do with the shots I got over the weekend. Wanted to see if anyone else had seen the same thing with their "nifty sixty".

There are few 'building shots' in this thread really that I can compare against.

musicmaster
31st of March 2008 (Mon), 15:58
Anyone have any experience (or sample shots that they can post) of this lens being used for architectural photos? I took some shots of the LDS Temple in SLC, Utah over the weekend and it looks as if it is about to tip over in a large percentage of them. I don't think that I hold my camera that skeewompas. I know that this is a common thing when shooting wide angle at tall buildings - but I have a lot of correcting to do with the shots I got over the weekend. Wanted to see if anyone else had seen the same thing with their "nifty sixty".

There are few 'building shots' in this thread really that I can compare against.
if you are talking about getting a bit of a "fisheye" effect, then yes, I notice that too. Self portrait taken at 24mm. The vignetting (dark corners) are a photoshop effect, but you can see the fisheye effect on my face a bit

http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v214/238/37/1148820226/n1148820226_30427921_83.jpg

bauerman
31st of March 2008 (Mon), 16:25
Maybe it is a bit of a fish-eye effect - I will post some examples of what I am talking about once I get home this evening.

DDCSD
31st of March 2008 (Mon), 17:20
Hmmm. never noticed that on mine, haven't looked for it either though. That looks pretty bad music, I'd be tempted to send it in. Is that the full frame, or is it cropped?

mastertech01
31st of March 2008 (Mon), 17:51
Ordered this one last night for $220 delivered... waiting for the email that says it has shipped!!! I hope it's here by this weekend so I cam play with it with the new 30D!!!


So how do you get free ship?

musicmaster
31st of March 2008 (Mon), 18:49
Hmmm. never noticed that on mine, haven't looked for it either though. That looks pretty bad music, I'd be tempted to send it in. Is that the full frame, or is it cropped?
Cropped (40D). As I said, the dark corners I did myself in photoshop (since I kinda liked the overall effect)

DDCSD
31st of March 2008 (Mon), 19:10
Cropped (40D). As I said, the dark corners I did myself in photoshop (since I kinda liked the overall effect)

I think the lighting is throwing me off on this. It looks like the camera right side of your face it much larger and distorted than the left.

pointerDixie214
31st of March 2008 (Mon), 20:54
So how do you get free ship?

I didn't... it was like $208 for the lens and $12 shipping. Either way this is a steal since the lens MSRP is $500, and everywhere else it is $375 or so.

I am still confused as to why Cameta is offering this so cheap on amazon. Has anyone gotten there from them yet? I am just a little skeptical, and wouldn't have ordered it without the protection of Amazon...

DDCSD
31st of March 2008 (Mon), 21:25
I didn't... it was like $208 for the lens and $12 shipping. Either way this is a steal since the lens MSRP is $500, and everywhere else it is $375 or so.

I am still confused as to why Cameta is offering this so cheap on amazon. Has anyone gotten there from them yet? I am just a little skeptical, and wouldn't have ordered it without the protection of Amazon...

No idea how they do it, but they have some crazy deals on stuff sometimes. They aren't gray market lenses either, because many have sent theirs in for service and had no problems.

JackProton
31st of March 2008 (Mon), 22:10
No idea how they do it, but they have some crazy deals on stuff sometimes. They aren't gray market lenses either, because many have sent theirs in for service and had no problems.
Yep - no problems at all getting warranty service from Sigma Factory Service for my copy.

The other lens bargains Cameta offers include (or included) the Sigma 15-30mm DG EX and the Sigma 17-35mm DG HSM EX. I imagine none of these would be particuarly popular for crop dSLRs at standard Sigma EX prices.

DDCSD
31st of March 2008 (Mon), 22:36
Yep - no problems at all getting warranty service from Sigma Factory Service for my copy.

The other lens bargains Cameta offers include (or included) the Sigma 15-30mm DG EX and the Sigma 17-35mm DG HSM EX. I imagine none of these would be particuarly popular for crop dSLRs at standard Sigma EX prices.

Yep they've been out of the Canon version of the 15-30 for months now and won't be getting anymore in (I called them).:( I've been wanting that lens, but you are right, not willing to pay the $400 from somewhere else for it. The 17-35 isn't very highly rated or I probably would snatch it up, but will save towards a UWA instead.

They have some great deals on Sigma 500 Supers for Nikons and Sigmas, but not the Canon version.

bauerman
1st of April 2008 (Tue), 08:40
I have added Cameta to my mental list of retailers that I would easily do business with again in the future. I made a couple of 'test calls' to them while waiting for my 24-60mm and they were johnny on the spot answering the phone and my questions re: my order.

javaprog
1st of April 2008 (Tue), 08:59
I took my lens to:

Camera Repair Japan
3435 Breckinridge Blvd, Suite 130
Duluth, GA 30096

on the 20th of March.

Late last week I got a letter in the mail from them telling me that they couldn't fix it and if I did not contact them in three days they would send it to the manufacturer. I called after hours and left a message telling them to ship it as soon as possible.

I asked them to call me after they tested it... they didn't.
It would have made more sense to call me to see if I wanted to send it to Sigma instead of wasting time mailing me a letter.
Who knows if they even checked thier messages; with any luck Sigma at least has it by now.

So, my plan to hand deliver the lens to a local service center backfired on me.

Lens tests: http://rhenry74.homeip.net/pics/main.php/v/photography/Sigma24-60/

pointerDixie214
1st of April 2008 (Tue), 10:44
Just got off the phone with Cameta. Great folks! I was on hold for about two seconds and they helped me out right away.

My order will be shipped out tomorrow UPS ground, so I doubt I will get it until next Monday, but that's OK as I still haven't sold the 18-55mm IS and I still love that lens!

Geez though, I can't wait to play with this one with the dogs!!!!

DDCSD
1st of April 2008 (Tue), 12:11
I have added Cameta to my mental list of retailers that I would easily do business with again in the future. I made a couple of 'test calls' to them while waiting for my 24-60mm and they were johnny on the spot answering the phone and my questions re: my order.

That was my experience. I called to just talk to someone and get an idea if it was some guy's cell phone in the back of his van or a real shop. They were a bit rushed on the phone, but overall pleasant and informative.


I took my lens to:

Camera Repair Japan
3435 Breckinridge Blvd, Suite 130
Duluth, GA 30096

on the 20th of March.

Late last week I got a letter in the mail from them telling me that they couldn't fix it and if I did not contact them in three days they would send it to the manufacturer. I called after hours and left a message telling them to ship it as soon as possible.

I asked them to call me after they tested it... they didn't.
It would have made more sense to call me to see if I wanted to send it to Sigma instead of wasting time mailing me a letter.
Who knows if they even checked thier messages; with any luck Sigma at least has it by now.

So, my plan to hand deliver the lens to a local service center backfired on me.

Lens tests: http://rhenry74.homeip.net/pics/main.php/v/photography/Sigma24-60/

Yeah, that doesn't sound like the way it should be handled at all to me. Hopefully they get you straightened out in Japan, you should have a heck of a lens when it gets back. If I need Sigma service, I think I'll send mine elsewhere.

Just got off the phone with Cameta. Great folks! I was on hold for about two seconds and they helped me out right away.

My order will be shipped out tomorrow UPS ground, so I doubt I will get it until next Monday, but that's OK as I still haven't sold the 18-55mm IS and I still love that lens!

Geez though, I can't wait to play with this one with the dogs!!!!


It's a good lens, AF is actually pretty decent.

DStanic
2nd of April 2008 (Wed), 05:53
Well I broke down and bought one off amazon yesterday ($219).

In my hunt for a cheap f/2.8 lens this was the most affordable by far (comparing to the tamron 28-75, 17-50, Sigma 24-70 and 18-55 f/2.8).

Can't wait to get it!

pointerDixie214
2nd of April 2008 (Wed), 09:04
Well I broke down and bought one off amazon yesterday ($219).

In my hunt for a cheap f/2.8 lens this was the most affordable by far (comparing to the tamron 28-75, 17-50, Sigma 24-70 and 18-55 f/2.8).

Can't wait to get it!

This was my philosphy exactly! Plus the images on here looks just as good as all the ones listed above... maybe with exception of the 17-50, but VERY close!

javaprog
2nd of April 2008 (Wed), 12:53
Anyone have any experience (or sample shots that they can post) of this lens being used for architectural photos?


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3225/2383390812_6b4166e8f1_o.jpg

bauerman
2nd of April 2008 (Wed), 14:00
That's a nice shot - but the buildings are leaning in that one too......

javaprog
2nd of April 2008 (Wed), 14:25
That's a nice shot - but the buildings are leaning in that one too......

I believe it was taken at a slight up-angle. It looks normal to me, but I'm no expert.

JackProton
2nd of April 2008 (Wed), 15:24
I like.

You can always use the perspective correction feature in Photoshop if you like hard right angles.

dinanm3atl
2nd of April 2008 (Wed), 20:52
Placing order now... This 23 page thread sealed the deal...

Looks like it will be a more permanent mount on my camera. Retire the kit lens to the bag ;)

DDCSD
2nd of April 2008 (Wed), 20:55
Placing order now... This 23 page thread sealed the deal...

Looks like it will be a more permanent mount on my camera. Retire the kit lens to the bag ;)

Keep that kit lens until you get something wide though!

dinanm3atl
2nd of April 2008 (Wed), 21:11
Oh yes. I am a dork... I carry a large back with all 3 of my lens and then I will take off the 18-55 and mount the 24-60. It will be close by if I need it.

I would like to next get a sharp super wide, something like the Tokina 12-24 and then can retire the 18-55 for good ;)

DDCSD
2nd of April 2008 (Wed), 22:25
Oh yes. I am a dork... I carry a large back with all 3 of my lens and then I will take off the 18-55 and mount the 24-60. It will be close by if I need it.

I would like to next get a sharp super wide, something like the Tokina 12-24 and then can retire the 18-55 for good ;)

That is my plan exactly.

Jason C
3rd of April 2008 (Thu), 01:40
Would you all "PUL-EEEZ" stop buying this lens... ;)

Everytime I check Cametta on eBay, the 24-60s I'm watching keep getting sold.

I know its you! :)

I still have not found a local buyer for my 17-85...

So damnit, save a 24-60 for me, would ya? :p

pointerDixie214
3rd of April 2008 (Thu), 08:24
Dude- buy on on Amazon... they're still only $220 shipped... that's a great deal!

Turns out mine will be here Monday and I can't wait!!!

dinanm3atl
3rd of April 2008 (Thu), 08:56
Unfortunately I cannot "save" one for you ;)

GoHokiesGo
3rd of April 2008 (Thu), 14:17
I thought I'd add another to the thread, I'm pretty attached to this lens now. I love it! I've definitely noticed that I shoot wide open for almost everything, I love the bokeh (might just be the camera too, only had the slr for 2 months...)

Anyways, I went to the Cherry Blossom festival over the weekend, and this was my favorite shot. I have a bunch of other keepers, but I loved this one the most from the set.
f/2.8----1/4000s----ISO 200

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/jpeacott/website%20stuff/IMG_2048.jpg

Fidelio
3rd of April 2008 (Thu), 14:22
I just pulled the trigger at Amazon. I've been thinking about getting this lens to replace the Canon 28-80 in my sig for a long time. Now I just have to wait for it to show up.... :D

bauerman
3rd of April 2008 (Thu), 14:22
Yep - nice shot and nice bokeh.

Jason C
3rd of April 2008 (Thu), 18:31
Dude- buy on on Amazon... they're still only $220 shipped... that's a great deal!

Turns out mine will be here Monday and I can't wait!!!
Dude, my wife had a cow when I recently bought my 70-200 with tax money (first she said I could use half, $1600, then she changed her mind...:( ).

I have to sell the 17-85 first, and I refuse to sell my 100 f/2 (which would be an easier lens to sell).

I have to wait...

So don't buy 'em all up.






please....




;)



Jason C

pointerDixie214
3rd of April 2008 (Thu), 20:06
Dude, my wife had a cow when I recently bought my 70-200 with tax money (first she said I could use half, $1600, then she changed her mind...:( ).

I have to sell the 17-85 first, and I refuse to sell my 100 f/2 (which would be an easier lens to sell).

I have to wait...

So don't buy 'em all up.






please....




;)



Jason C


AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH- 'Nuff said.

I am getting married in June, so that's why I am buying up everything I think I will want now!!! HAHAHA

Mike Deep
3rd of April 2008 (Thu), 23:34
Very happy to see a thread for this lens here. This has to be one of the most under-appreciated lenses out there, especially considering the price. The zoom range may not be a favorite, but I think it falls right into place between say a 10-22/10-20/12-24 and a 70-200.

24mm @ f2.8
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff27/mdeep88/places/florida/orlando/IMG_6277.jpg

60mm @ f3.5
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff27/mdeep88/places/texas/2007-12/IMG_4856.jpg

Kevin M
4th of April 2008 (Fri), 04:54
Very happy to see a thread for this lens here. This has to be one of the most under-appreciated lenses out there, especially considering the price.

Couldn't agree more.

pointerDixie214
4th of April 2008 (Fri), 06:43
Kevin M -> Judging from your signature, I would say this MUST be a great lens as it is your only zoom!!!

Mike Deep- Lovin' the Epcot ball on that one!!!! (That is the Epcot ball, right?)

Kevin M
4th of April 2008 (Fri), 07:07
Kevin M -> Judging from your signature, I would say this MUST be a great lens as it is your only zoom!!!

Yup. The 24-60 has about the same IQ (but is better at the edges) as my copy of the wider Sigma 20 .
Good going for a very reasonably priced zoom .

javaprog
4th of April 2008 (Fri), 09:57
I just got a voice mail... my lens is back from Sigma repair... I can pick it up at CRJ.

Great posts, the ball at f2.8 looks sharp as a tack. I wonder if it was hand held.

I hope mine is clear wide open now... like GoHokiesGo is saying it would also be nice to be able to limit DOF in bright light

javaprog
4th of April 2008 (Fri), 10:10
price drop on amazon - $199.95

bauerman
4th of April 2008 (Fri), 10:43
price drop on amazon - $199.95

Still $219.00 for the Canon mount. The Nikon mount is $199.00 but who cares! :D

adrenalnjunky
4th of April 2008 (Fri), 11:28
how are you guys getting free shipping from Amazon? Looks like the lens is sold thru Cameta?

bauerman
4th of April 2008 (Fri), 11:36
I don't know that anyone is getting free shipping are they - I surely did not. It is sold through Cameta for the lower price - I think that you can order it through Amazon as well, but it will be the more 'normal' price.

DStanic
4th of April 2008 (Fri), 11:48
Shipping is not free. $219 + shipping. I paid $38 for shipping to Canada. Still not bad!

Fidelio
4th of April 2008 (Fri), 13:59
Price shipped out to Vegas was $232.90... no free shipping yesterday afternoon. It's still dead cheap for a lens that looks like it's as good as this one, though!

adrenalnjunky
4th of April 2008 (Fri), 15:45
It's still a great deal - I have the 24-70 and a friend wanted to buy one like mine, but for the difference in price, I think I he'll pick the 24-60 up instead.

bauerman
4th of April 2008 (Fri), 15:50
It's still a great deal - I have the 24-70 and a friend wanted to buy one like mine, but for the difference in price, I think I he'll pick the 24-60 up instead.

It would not stand to reason for him to pay the large price difference for 10mm on the long end - a ton more weight - larger filter size and a lot more cost.

DDCSD
4th of April 2008 (Fri), 17:06
It would not stand to reason for him to pay the large price difference for 10mm on the long end - a ton more weight - larger filter size and a lot more cost.

The filter thing is big. An 82mm CPL costs a considerable amount more than the 77mm that this takes. It is also nice in that all the UWA lenses for croppers take the same size 77mm filter, IE the Canon 10-22, Sigma 10-20 and the Tokina 12-24.

DStanic
4th of April 2008 (Fri), 17:17
Would a 67mm stepdown ring cause vingetting or other problems with this lens?

-spam-
4th of April 2008 (Fri), 17:27
Would a 67mm stepdown ring cause vingetting or other problems with this lens?

I would imagine so, that filter size is 10mm less than the one that the lens uses. You could try it, just expect to be doing a bit of cropping.

mastertech01
4th of April 2008 (Fri), 18:00
I have found 82mm filters reasonable on Ebay. They may not be pro quality but I doubt folks are buying a 200.00 lens to match L build quality anyway.

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=82mm+filter+Canon&category0=

foty89
4th of April 2008 (Fri), 19:20
I have found 82mm filters reasonable on Ebay. They may not be pro quality but I doubt folks are buying a 200.00 lens to match L build quality anyway.

This is an EX series lens, it is built nearly as well as the Canon L lenses. Image quality is nearly that, as well. If it HSM, it would be even closer. Don't forget, that everywhere else, this lens is much closer to $400, than to $200. Also don't forget that putting cheap filters on ANY lens with make that lens worse.

DDCSD
4th of April 2008 (Fri), 20:29
I have found 82mm filters reasonable on Ebay. They may not be pro quality but I doubt folks are buying a 200.00 lens to match L build quality anyway.

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=82mm+filter+Canon&category0=


The 24-60 takes a 77mm filter. I was talking about the Sigma 24-70 taking the 82mm filter.

A Hoya Pro-1 Digital CPL for 77mm is $75 cheaper than the same 82mm filter, using B&H prices.

Mike Deep
4th of April 2008 (Fri), 23:07
Stitches with this lens:
Sunset (http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff27/mdeep88/composites/IMG_5715-5720.jpg)
Parhelion (http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff27/mdeep88/composites/IMG_8934-8942.jpg)
Storm at sunset (http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff27/mdeep88/composites/IMG_9356-9367_Crop.jpg)

60mm @ f5
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff27/mdeep88/macro-closeup/IMG_2716.jpg

24mm @ f3.2
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff27/mdeep88/pets/IMG_3336.jpg

60mm @ f5.6
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff27/mdeep88/places/texas/2007-12/IMG_4956.jpg

46mm @ f4.5
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff27/mdeep88/macro-closeup/IMG_5017.jpg

60mm @ f5.6
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff27/mdeep88/places/florida/orlando/IMG_6304.jpg

24mm AEB HDR
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff27/mdeep88/places/florida/orlando/IMG_8792-8794_HDR.jpg

60mm @ f2.8
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff27/mdeep88/macro-closeup/IMG_8889.jpg

24mm @ f9
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff27/mdeep88/paintball/gear/IMG_9113.jpg

musicmaster
5th of April 2008 (Sat), 14:43
Heres one from today

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6546/img4415el7.jpg

Tinh Ngo
5th of April 2008 (Sat), 15:19
seems pretty sharp for ppls that got a good copy but soft for ppls that didnt is the warranyt free charge and do we have to paid our own postal shipping?

foty89
5th of April 2008 (Sat), 15:24
seems pretty sharp for ppls that got a good copy but soft for ppls that didnt is the warranyt free charge and do we have to paid our own postal shipping?

The warranty work is free, however you do pay shipping to the factory service center of your choice. If you happen to live in the New York City area, or the Phoenix area, you can drop off the lens yourself.

Tinh Ngo
5th of April 2008 (Sat), 15:31
does it cost for them to shipped it back, so i heard sigma has more bad copy then good .. seems like a lot is getting problem but a few is decent and some are great..

JackProton
5th of April 2008 (Sat), 15:49
does it cost for them to shipped it back, so i heard sigma has more bad copy then good .. seems like a lot is getting problem but a few is decent and some are great..
Sigma wil ship it back to you for free under warranty. You only pay shipping one way.

Its still well worth the price. Sigma Factory Service seems to have a very good record putting these lenses into top quality shape.

Tinh Ngo
5th of April 2008 (Sat), 15:56
after they fixed it, its should be super sharp and in perfect condition? so its free calibration,fixing focus or whatever problem you have?

-spam-
5th of April 2008 (Sat), 17:59
Heres one from today

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6546/img4415el7.jpg

Nice, and stop stealing our birds ;):p

Sigma wil ship it back to you for free under warranty. You only pay shipping one way.


CR Kennedy (the company that handles sigma repairs and such in Australia) is like that too. I sent an out of warranty 12-24 in to get the aperture blades fixed. Paid to send it to them and for the repair and they sent it back free of charge.

lbennett
6th of April 2008 (Sun), 00:30
http://lh6.google.com/a.luke.bennett/R_helcao6JI/AAAAAAAAALo/Xh_kdC3EB9A/IMG_2163-2.jpg?imgmax=512

http://lh6.google.com/a.luke.bennett/R_hg7cao6MI/AAAAAAAAAMc/OVfQ_24aAp4/IMG_2070.jpg?imgmax=800

Jason C
6th of April 2008 (Sun), 01:31
Keep rubbing it in. I may just sell the 100 f/2, and get the 24-60. I want this lens!

Kevin M
6th of April 2008 (Sun), 05:42
I have an assessment of this lens as a walk-around for landscapes here:-
http://homepage.eircom.net/~bot/paint/2460.html

Tinh Ngo
6th of April 2008 (Sun), 17:54
hey kevin how good is the 24-60 compare to 24-70L and how good is this at 2.8 or f4/f 5.6 i might pick up one.. also since its 77MM and the 24-70 is 77mm can i put the canon L hood on it or customize it without having vignette?

DDCSD
6th of April 2008 (Sun), 18:13
hey kevin how good is the 24-60 compare to 24-70L and how good is this at 2.8 or f4/f 5.6 i might pick up one.. also since its 77MM and the 24-70 is 77mm can i put the canon L hood on it or customize it without having vignette?

Why put the Canon hood on it? It comes with one. Also, there was a comparison earlier in the thread between the two lenses.

kevinmcdade
6th of April 2008 (Sun), 18:44
so i heard sigma has more bad copy then good .. seems like a lot is getting problem but a few is decent and some are great..

So untrue! In this entire thread there are probably less than 3 people who got soft copies. It doesn't mean the lens is bad, it just needs to be calibrated. $5-$10 in shipping to a service center and the lens is perfect and the total cost is now $230 instead of $220 for an EX 2.8 lens. It's funny how the few bad reviews seem to outshine the huge number of good reviews. Every lens manufacturer is going to have some quality issue...yes, even Canon;)

Tinh Ngo
6th of April 2008 (Sun), 19:01
let said if your lens is sharp but still want to get it calibrated and check out , can i do that , i never sent in any of my lens so yea. Also about the hood, the flower pedal hood looks ugly and was wondering if the 24-70L would work without having shadow in the pictures. thanks

=] what do i send in with the warranty, receipt purcahse and the warranty card? Also my last question is, how far do i step back to get a group shot of lets said 15-20 ppls on a 1.6 crop sensor?

Tinh Ngo
6th of April 2008 (Sun), 19:05
also any test sample picture at 2.8-f5.6 =]

-spam-
7th of April 2008 (Mon), 06:31
Also about the hood, the flower pedal hood looks ugly and was wondering if the 24-70L would work without having shadow in the pictures. thanks

The one for the 24-70L is made for that lens and its reverse zooming extension thing. So, even if you did manage to get teh hood on the 24-60, you would have a really really long hood on it at 24mm which would give you a lot of vignetting...

let said if your lens is sharp but still want to get it calibrated and check out , can i do that , i never sent in any of my lens so yea.

I dont see why you would want to send it in if its sharp. Just seems like a waste of shipping costs

also any test sample picture at 2.8-f5.6 =]

Quite a few in this thread ;)

javaprog
7th of April 2008 (Mon), 09:41
Still $219.00 for the Canon mount. The Nikon mount is $199.00 but who cares! :D

oops! my bad

javaprog
7th of April 2008 (Mon), 10:49
My initial observations indicate that the repairs or calibrations done by CRJ and Sigma have not made much difference. I'm afraid that my complaint about the lens did not make it to Sigma. The paperwork says they adjusted the focus a cleaned it. I don't think there's anything wrong with the focus. I may end up sending it to them again with a well-defined, written description of the problem. I feel like CRJ just screwed-up the process.

I don't like feeling like I have a soft copy.

I would appreciate it if some other owners would post 100% crops of night shots taken at f2.8 and f4 to compare to mine. City shots with distant street lights would be ideal.

The weather in Atlanta this weekend was miserable so I still haven't had a chance to evaluate the lens in good light but I'm fairly sure it is an execellent performer. It's adequate in low light but not amazing. It preforms like a good 400 dollar lens. Wait... how much did I pay for it?

1/100 f6.3 60mm flash
http://rhenry74.homeip.net/pics/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=15516&g2_serialNumber=2



Mike Deep - nice shots

pointerDixie214
7th of April 2008 (Mon), 14:35
Well, got mine in today...

Good news... my copy is TACK sharp. No PP except resize.
Here's the cliche "Box Shot" to prove it... at f/2.8 at 1/25"
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b390/pointerDixie214/IMG_0425Medium.jpg

More good news... seems to be right on for focus..
Focus is on "Bear"- No PP except resize
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b390/pointerDixie214/IMG_0431Medium.jpg

I can tell already this lens will be on my camera about 90% of the time. And talk about build quality. This is one heavy chunk of glass compared to EF-S lenses!!!

Balances on the 30D perfectly!!!

GoHokiesGo
7th of April 2008 (Mon), 16:11
It's definitely a great piece of glass, I think I spoiled myself by getting it as my first lens. I was disappointed at how blah the build was on my 55-200 lens, knew it wouldnt be the same since the 24-60 is EX, but man, the EX build really makes this seem like an incredible lens.

DStanic
7th of April 2008 (Mon), 16:51
Mine just cleared Canada customs today.. shouldn't be long! :D

canotographer
7th of April 2008 (Mon), 19:09
This lens gives L IQ quality ...If you are not for bokeh or USM... get this.

Tinh Ngo
7th of April 2008 (Mon), 20:12
Was wondering if this would be a good indoor potrait lens? How many person can you fit and how far do you have to stand back to get at least 15+ ppls all bunch up on a 1.6 crop, 15+ feet?

-spam-
8th of April 2008 (Tue), 03:22
Was wondering if this would be a good indoor potrait lens? How many person can you fit and how far do you have to stand back to get at least 15+ ppls all bunch up on a 1.6 crop, 15+ feet?

Depends on the focal length and whether you want group shots with all of the people in or just chest and head stuff. What other lenses do you have? Try the different focal lengths yourself to see.

javaprog
8th of April 2008 (Tue), 09:07
The sun finally came out for a couple of hours yesterday evening:

1/1250 f4 60mm ISO200
http://rhenry74.homeip.net/pics/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=16026&g2_serialNumber=2

For this one I put the camera in program mode and pointed it out the window as I was driving through town. Pretty much point-and-shoot... I did rotate it a little when I got home, otherwise both of these are straight out of the camera.

1/250 f8 35mm ISO200
http://rhenry74.homeip.net/pics/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=16038&g2_serialNumber=2

Yeah... I'm diggin' this lens. The color is great and I like the bokeh.

javaprog
8th of April 2008 (Tue), 13:37
It would appear I spoke prematurely yesterday. The Sigma service has indeed improved the clarity of the lens.
100% Crops
Before Service - f2.8
http://rhenry74.homeip.net/pics/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=15291&g2_serialNumber=6

After Service - f2.8
http://rhenry74.homeip.net/pics/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=15650&g2_serialNumber=1

JackProton
8th of April 2008 (Tue), 15:50
It would appear I spoke prematurely yesterday. The Sigma service has indeed improved the clarity of the lens.


Cool. Much better! I think in your previous shot of the kitten, the auto-focus just locked onto the closer basket handle.

samhengon
8th of April 2008 (Tue), 16:02
javaprog,

How many days did you wait for the lens to come back? actually I have sent my lens to sigma too but I am worried a little bit as I don't have any means to check status or to know how my lens is going ... Thanks

Sam

JackProton
8th of April 2008 (Tue), 17:06
Mine took two weeks which seems about average for Sigma.

Jason C
8th of April 2008 (Tue), 17:46
When I sell my 100, this baby is mine!

hoods
8th of April 2008 (Tue), 18:44
I finally decided to get this lens.
I don't even need it.
Went to Amazon and it said hurry up only one left.
Got it.
Thanks everyone for the pictures and reviews.

DStanic
8th of April 2008 (Tue), 19:25
Got it today!!!

Just a warning to Canadians... there was still $36 duty tax to pay, but that's the same as if you were to buy it here for $219 anyways. Still at around $300 for a brand new lens, I'm happy.

Silly me, I took my camera with me and went to the post office (got the lens) then went to my in-laws to babysit their cat for an hour. I was so excited but.. forgot a memory card!!!! :rolleyes:

Anyways here are some samples (click to enlarge)... how does it look? :)
Straight from the camera JPG, using standard picture style.

shot at 60mm, f/2.8 (resized) flash used

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4440/img6383qg1.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img6383qg1.jpg)

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1570/img6384am0.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img6384am0.jpg)

shot at 24mm f/2.8 (ISO800) flash used

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9139/img6406copyeq7.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img6406copyeq7.jpg)


Shot at 24mm f/2.8, cropped 100%

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4014/img6400copybb0.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img6400copybb0.jpg)

javaprog
8th of April 2008 (Tue), 20:18
Cool. Much better! I think in your previous shot of the kitten, the auto-focus just locked onto the closer basket handle.

Agreed. It's better. I have no doubt the lens is worth $230.

In the "After Service - f2.8" shot, does anyone see the white-ish flare or smudge that is offset to the right and down? Should that be there? Am I crazy or just being too picky?

javaprog
8th of April 2008 (Tue), 20:22
javaprog,

How many days did you wait for the lens to come back? actually I have sent my lens to sigma too but I am worried a little bit as I don't have any means to check status or to know how my lens is going ... Thanks

Sam

My situation was a bit of a debacle because I tried to work it through a local repair shop; CRJ, one of the centers listed on the Sigma site. They took a while to get to it and decide they needed to send it to Sigma, so in all it took 15 days. It would have been much faster if I had just sent it to Sigma to begin with.

Tinh Ngo
8th of April 2008 (Tue), 22:32
they bump up the price to 370 and nikon is 199 wtf lame.

DDCSD
8th of April 2008 (Tue), 22:42
they bump up the price to 370 and nikon is 199 wtf lame.

If you click on it, it still shows it as $220. I would order the thing if you can at $220. It is not an open-ended deal. If you want it, get it. Cameta is the only retailer that offers this lens at such a low price. Or you can keep questioning whether or not to get it, and if you are really lucky, they will run out of stock and never get it back in stock. That is what happened to me on the Sigma 15-30.

Tinh Ngo
8th of April 2008 (Tue), 22:58
what's the iq of this vs tamron 28-75?

JackProton
9th of April 2008 (Wed), 02:29
Agreed. It's better. I have no doubt the lens is worth $230.

Definitely!



In the "After Service - f2.8" shot, does anyone see the white-ish flare or smudge that is offset to the right and down? Should that be there? Am I crazy or just being too picky?
Ah, the dark side of 100% crops. Typically, you won't notice this sort of thing but, in this case, you've got a high contrast target, you're shooting with the lens wide open and you've got a very narrow DOF. This is normal (and not just your copy of the lens).

Tinh Ngo
9th of April 2008 (Wed), 12:50
whats the IQ of this vs the tamron 28-75 the same or tamron is a little sharper and better contrast in colors?

javaprog
9th of April 2008 (Wed), 14:28
Ah, the dark side of 100% crops. Typically, you won't notice this sort of thing but, in this case, you've got a high contrast target, you're shooting with the lens wide open and you've got a very narrow DOF. This is normal (and not just your copy of the lens).

Ok, I'll just make pictures with the thing for a while then. :)

http://rhenry74.homeip.net/pics/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=15653&g2_serialNumber=2

JackProton
9th of April 2008 (Wed), 17:22
My lens didn't come with the bonus kitten. :(

ashleynaugust
9th of April 2008 (Wed), 17:55
Nice shot, java. My mom had that couch :)

CTM
9th of April 2008 (Wed), 18:42
I just picked up one, it is on the way. $219.99 from Amazon (Cameta camera). can't wait !

wayovrpar
9th of April 2008 (Wed), 21:52
OK...How sad is this.....I haven't even ordered my new 40D and other lenses and accessories from B&H yet (will be doing that on Tuesday)....but just ordered this lens through Amazon....after months of lurking on this forum, I am now the proud owner of......1 lens. I think I need some therapy......

DStanic
9th of April 2008 (Wed), 22:07
OK...How sad is this.....I haven't even ordered my new 40D and other lenses and accessories from B&H yet (will be doing that on Tuesday)....but just ordered this lens through Amazon....after months of lurking on this forum, I am now the proud owner of......1 lens. I think I need some therapy......


I bought my first lens (Canon 17-85) used off ebay before buying a camera.. lol .. was waiting till close to christmas to get it.

DDCSD
9th of April 2008 (Wed), 22:15
OK...How sad is this.....I haven't even ordered my new 40D and other lenses and accessories from B&H yet (will be doing that on Tuesday)....but just ordered this lens through Amazon....after months of lurking on this forum, I am now the proud owner of......1 lens. I think I need some therapy......

Haha. Welcome to POTN!!! At least you started out with an affordable lens that delivers great quality.

wayovrpar
9th of April 2008 (Wed), 22:41
Thanks for the support...DDCSD. Where in SD are you? I lived in Sioux Falls for two years....really miss it....REALLY.

DDCSD
9th of April 2008 (Wed), 22:55
Thanks for the support...DDCSD. Where in SD are you? I lived in Sioux Falls for two years....really miss it....REALLY.


Really??? I'm in Madison, my sister lives in Sioux Falls. I'm there quite a bit. how long ago did you live there? i grew up in SD, then joined the Navy and was away for a while. Moved back here about 5 years ago. Couldn't stay away I guess. :lol:

wayovrpar
9th of April 2008 (Wed), 23:14
I'm originally from the Seattle are, but was relocated there for work in 2000...and then relocated back here in 2002. Madison....the family had a great camping trip in the summer of 2001 at Lake Herman....yeah, I really miss the South Dakota summer....even the winters...and the springs....falls.....

samhengon
10th of April 2008 (Thu), 09:51
I can't believe the speed...
My lens arrived at Sigma NY on Tuesday and I sent them an email asking for status and they said they are sending me the lens back today after adjusting the AF data, OMG.
By the way, how can they adjust the AF data if they don't have my camera with them? hope everything will be great and looking forward to post samples hehe~ hehe

DDCSD
10th of April 2008 (Thu), 10:27
I'm originally from the Seattle are, but was relocated there for work in 2000...and then relocated back here in 2002. Madison....the family had a great camping trip in the summer of 2001 at Lake Herman....yeah, I really miss the South Dakota summer....even the winters...and the springs....falls.....

You'd really love the 12-18" of snow we're supposed to get today/tomorrow. :lol:

I can't believe the speed...
My lens arrived at Sigma NY on Tuesday and I sent them an email asking for status and they said they are sending me the lens back today after adjusting the AF data, OMG.
By the way, how can they adjust the AF data if they don't have my camera with them? hope everything will be great and looking forward to post samples hehe~ hehe


Wow, that is quick! don't know how they adjust it? probably just try and make sure it is centered. :rolleyes:

JackProton
10th of April 2008 (Thu), 17:05
By the way, how can they adjust the AF data if they don't have my camera with them?
I always assumed they had a very generic AF profile or two they use on all lenses at the factory (maybe one for APS-C sized and one for full-frame). I also suspect they also have a number of specific AF profiles for different cameras which is why factory service wants to know what camera you're using the lens on. This seems to work pretty well in general but I have had two other Sigma lenses that required my specific camera be sent in order for Sigma to tune them properly.

I wonder if the focus problems with some Sigma lenses might not be due to the AF profile they use on their full-frame lenses not being a good match for crop cameras.

javaprog
11th of April 2008 (Fri), 08:18
My lens didn't come with the bonus kitten. :(

That can still be arranged...;)

javaprog
11th of April 2008 (Fri), 08:42
Nice shot, java. My mom had that couch :)

:lol:

"He-Who-Is Yet-To-Be-Named" is very impressed by the texture of the fabric on ashleynaugust's mom's old coutch... much to the dismay of his on-looking mother.


http://rhenry74.homeip.net/pics/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=15456&g2_serialNumber=2


Ok, Ok... no more cat pics. There are several here for anyone interested: http://rhenry74.homeip.net/pics/main.php/v/rhenry74/teresas/

DStanic, nice lighting. I couldn't get enough light without the flash and I couldn't keep the white fur from washing out with the flash. Oh well... that's why we keep taking pictures I guess.

JackProton
11th of April 2008 (Fri), 16:40
Cute. Javaprog, you're going to hate me but... you desperately need a new flash unit you can bounce off the ceiling while your new family member, TBD, is bouncing off the walls.

Mike Deep
11th of April 2008 (Fri), 21:12
If you won't post any more cats, then I will!

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff27/mdeep88/pets/IMG_3309.jpg

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff27/mdeep88/pets/IMG_8744.jpg

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff27/mdeep88/pets/IMG_9123.jpg

DDCSD
11th of April 2008 (Fri), 21:32
OK, enough of the cats, how about our wiener dog after running around in our 8 inches of fresh, wet snow this morning.
http://derekcecil.smugmug.com/photos/278172097_n2gmX-XL.jpg

ckgowens
11th of April 2008 (Fri), 23:31
Here are a few more of my parents' cat with my Sigma 24-60mm:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3245/2290539509_991489b930.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/txcraig75/2290539509/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3212/2290541867_3482e2711c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/txcraig75/2290541867/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3179/2291332208_80ea30ae50.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/txcraig75/2291332208/)

Sickness
13th of April 2008 (Sun), 19:07
I'm sorry, but does my lens have to be under warranty to get it recalibrated? It's not very sharp.

DDCSD
13th of April 2008 (Sun), 19:09
I'm sorry, but does my lens have to be under warranty to get it recalibrated? It's not very sharp.

No, but you would most likely have to pay to get it calibrated. I have heard of them calibrating for free out of warranty, but I wouldn't expect it.

This lens has a 4 year warranty though. How long have you had it?

Sickness
13th of April 2008 (Sun), 19:20
Only a month or two. I just didn't know I had to send the warranty card in 30 days from purchase.

DDCSD
13th of April 2008 (Sun), 19:46
Only a month or two. I just didn't know I had to send the warranty card in 30 days from purchase.

You don't have to, just contact Sigma, and have your receipt handy. Legally they cannot deny warranty in the US because of a card not being filled out.

DStanic
13th of April 2008 (Sun), 20:01
Not a great shot as far as composition etc, but nice and sharp.

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/8829/img6489ppdsj1.th.jpg (http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img6489ppdsj1.jpg)

Tinh Ngo
13th of April 2008 (Sun), 20:07
ckgowens are those unedit and straight from the camera? looks really good i wonder how does these do in shooting potrait

ckgowens
13th of April 2008 (Sun), 22:11
ckgowens are those unedit and straight from the camera? looks really good i wonder how does these do in shooting potrait

No, there is some post processing done on them.

I can give you the adjustments from Lightroom (i.e. Adobe ACR processing)

The first has contrast boosted from the standard +25 to +34, Vibrance to +35 and Sharpening to +38 from the standard +25.

The second got underexposed as he doesn't like to be still when held up in the air like that, so I have fill Light set to +50, Contrast to +40 from +25, Vibrance to +35. no Sharpening.

The third has +27 on Fill Light, +34 from +25 on Contrast, +27 on Vibrance and +33 from +25 on Sharpening.

It does a pretty good job on portraits. I don't have any online to show beyond the cat though. I can't post the others I've done with it. The people in them might not approve. ;)

Tinh Ngo
14th of April 2008 (Mon), 00:42
is the focusing quiet or noisy, how does it perfect in low light? how would you compare the sharpness unedit?

Sickness
14th of April 2008 (Mon), 00:55
Focus isn't as quiet as USM, but it's not bad. Better than the Nifty.

DStanic
14th of April 2008 (Mon), 05:55
Focus is much better in sound/speed then my Tamron 75-300, but not quite as good as my 17-85USM. Not enough difference for me to care,I find it quite accurate in low light. :)

javaprog
14th of April 2008 (Mon), 09:42
Cute. Javaprog, you're going to hate me but... you desperately need a new flash unit you can bounce off the ceiling while your new family member, TBD, is bouncing off the walls.
Honestly, I have been railing against learning the finer aspects of flash photography. F2.8 was one of the attractive features of this lens. I hope to use it in low light. The day I took those pictures was very dark and I neglected to experiment with the ISO settings.

I do agree with you though, if I'm going to do any serious flash photography I have some work to do.:-|

If you won't post any more cats, then I will!Nicely done!

OK, enough of the cats, how about our wiener dog after running around in our 8 inches of fresh, wet snow this morning.
That's pretty funny. So I gues he would eventually just grind to a halt!

Here are a few more of my parents' cat with my Sigma 24-60mm:
The down-the-rail shot is cool. BTW: There's a flickr group for this lens.

jd40
14th of April 2008 (Mon), 14:39
how does this lens compare to the Sigma 18-200 OS?

I have a canon 28mm f1.8 prime but I don't use it a lot because whenever it's in my camera, I always tend to want a little more reach. After some reasearch, I see Sigma 24-60 is quite a steal, good price with good optics. However, I already have the Sigma 18-200 OS. How do the range 24-60 compares to each other? Is is (the f2.8 lens) a good portrait lens?

JackProton
14th of April 2008 (Mon), 15:06
Honestly, I have been railing against learning the finer aspects of flash photography. F2.8 was one of the attractive features of this lens. I hope to use it in low light. The day I took those pictures was very dark and I neglected to experiment with the ISO settings.

I do agree with you though, if I'm going to do any serious flash photography I have some work to do.:-|


Yeah, f2.8 is nice for lower light... but it can't always save you. Sometimes a flash is the only way. Not too much involved -- set camera to manual, point flash at ceiling, shoot. And the difference it can make to your indoor shots is nothing short of amazing. Plus the flash will freeze action. Combine the f2.8 with a ceiling bounced flash and you can get some very nice portraits. OK, enough evangelizing. :P

DDCSD
14th of April 2008 (Mon), 17:15
how does this lens compare to the Sigma 18-200 OS?

I have a canon 28mm f1.8 prime but I don't use it a lot because whenever it's in my camera, I always tend to want a little more reach. After some reasearch, I see Sigma 24-60 is quite a steal, good price with good optics. However, I already have the Sigma 18-200 OS. How do the range 24-60 compares to each other? Is is (the f2.8 lens) a good portrait lens?

I think the image quality is much better than the 18-200 ( have not used the 18-200, just from what I have read and seen, and the 18-200 is actually pretty good for a super zoom). I would think this to be a tremendous portrait lens, although I haven't used it a lot as such. The range is great on a crop camera for general use. 24 is plenty wide for me as a general walk-around.

JackProton
14th of April 2008 (Mon), 18:53
I think the image quality is much better than the 18-200 ( have not used the 18-200, just from what I have read and seen, and the 18-200 is actually pretty good for a super zoom). I would think this to be a tremendous portrait lens, although I haven't used it a lot as such. The range is great on a crop camera for general use. 24 is plenty wide for me as a general walk-around.

Yeah, I think it would make a good portrait lens too. And 24mm is just wide enough to be useful as a walk-around for me.


PopPhoto has tests of both the Sigma 18-200 OS and 24-60:
http://www.popphoto.com/cameralenses/1146/lens-test-sigma-24-60mm-f28-ex-dg-af-specifications-and-sqf-chart-page2.html
http://www.popphoto.com/cameralenses/4603/lens-test-sigma-18-200mm-f35-63-dc-os-af-specifications-and-sqf-page2.html

Comparing the two sets of test results, the 24-60 looks to be a whole quality grade higher at the 11X14 print size and two grades higher at 20X24 print size at around 50mm FL.

Medic85
14th of April 2008 (Mon), 19:41
Has anybody compared this to the 24-70...IQ wise? I have the latter but it's freaking huge and heavy. I'm liking the size of the 24-60 as well as the other more normal features:)

DDCSD
14th of April 2008 (Mon), 20:15
Has anybody compared this to the 24-70...IQ wise? I have the latter but it's freaking huge and heavy. I'm liking the size of the 24-60 as well as the other more normal features:)

The 24-60 actually has a higher rating over at FM.com. Not aware of any direct comparisons though.

jd40
14th of April 2008 (Mon), 21:37
Yeah, I think it would make a good portrait lens too. And 24mm is just wide enough to be useful as a walk-around for me.


PopPhoto has tests of both the Sigma 18-200 OS and 24-60:
http://www.popphoto.com/cameralenses/1146/lens-test-sigma-24-60mm-f28-ex-dg-af-specifications-and-sqf-chart-page2.html
http://www.popphoto.com/cameralenses/4603/lens-test-sigma-18-200mm-f35-63-dc-os-af-specifications-and-sqf-page2.html

Comparing the two sets of test results, the 24-60 looks to be a whole quality grade higher at the 11X14 print size and two grades higher at 20X24 print size at around 50mm FL.


The comparing between these 2 lenses are exactly what I'm looking for, thanks Jack

Canon Soldier
14th of April 2008 (Mon), 21:49
whats the IQ of this vs the tamron 28-75 the same or tamron is a little sharper and better contrast in colors?

I got the same question. This lens is 220 bucks, whereas the tamron 28-75 is 350. Pocket the extra 130 bucks? Or go with tamron for longer reach? IF the IQ are identical, then the choice is obvious. 130 could go to a nifty fifty!

DDCSD
14th of April 2008 (Mon), 22:01
I got the same question. This lens is 220 bucks, whereas the tamron 28-75 is 350. Pocket the extra 130 bucks? Or go with tamron for longer reach? IF the IQ are identical, then the choice is obvious. 130 could go to a nifty fifty!

To me, wider is more important than longer. I can't imagine the Tammy having any better IQ than this lens. I have never used the Tammy 28-75 though.

Tinh Ngo
15th of April 2008 (Tue), 01:37
yea but no one respond to me if the iq vs the tamron is simliar so yea.. so far it doesnt look that bad

-spam-
15th of April 2008 (Tue), 02:00
yea but no one respond to me if the iq vs the tamron is simliar so yea.. so far it doesnt look that bad

I doubt that many people would have owned both so you may not get a proper answer. But to be honest, there are bad copies of the tamron floating around the place just like there are bad sigma copies.

Get a decent copy of this, the tamron or the sigma 24-70, then the results would all look pretty similar.