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fox1
6th of August 2004 (Fri), 01:46
Why are most aircraft fuselage's washed-out?, they are supposed
to be shiny surely.?
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=332772
MikesJo
6th of August 2004 (Fri), 02:03
Nice picture, but I don't know how to answer your question :P.
nucki
6th of August 2004 (Fri), 02:58
Why are most aircraft fuselage's washed-out?, they are supposed
to be shiny surely.?
http://ww.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=332772
Hi! i dont know what you mean. I think the picture is good. the colors are good and the exposure is fine. I think if you overexpose a little, then it maybe would be more shiny, but than you will get some blown out highlits...
best regards
Peter
Xibalba
6th of August 2004 (Fri), 05:11
Why are most aircraft fuselage's washed-out?, they are supposed
to be shiny surely.?
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=332772
Whilst it would be rather nice to have a really shiny white fuselage, it is nearly impossible to maintain them this way. Our VIP fleet gets washed prior to each flight to ensure that they are in tip top condition, but they always come back a little dull. It is even worse if your maintainers are not particularly careful and spill fuel/oils or put grubby hand prints on the fuselage. Usually the rear of the fuselage and the engine cowls are the worst places, but if you are flying in a dirty environment the nose gets pretty dirty as well.
As for the picture you have there, the whites look pretty good to me for a regular commercial aircraft.
Rick
defordphoto
6th of August 2004 (Fri), 05:25
You can perk up this photo easily by setting white, grey and black points in PS.
maderito
6th of August 2004 (Fri), 05:33
Most of the "whites" on the plane are neutral colors, i.e. R=G=B. Thus they are neutral colors - shades of gray. White is R=G=B=255. I can't find any pure whites in the image.
The clouds have a blue-magenta cast. They're not "gray".
Shiny objects usually have "specular highlights" - small pixels or groups of pixels with colors brighter than "white" - that is the colors are clipped at the high brightness levels. These pixels typically represent reflected sunlight or other source of bright light. In a histogram, the specular highlights are seen as a spike on the right.
For an object to appear shiny, it does not have to be pure white - but it has to have some very bright pixels.
If you open your image in Photoshop to adjust levels, you'll see a small group of pixels in the highlight region. These are not specular highlights - but they are close to pure white. Move the right slider to the left - up to (or even beyond) these highlights. It will brighten the image and make your whites seem more shiny. Whether this improves the image is up to you to decide.
More generally, if you are disatisfied with this particular image, just increase the contrast with levels, curves, or brightness/contrast.
fox1
6th of August 2004 (Fri), 06:05
Thanks to all who replied!
Do I tell the wife "Not tonight darling, I have Photoshop"? :oops:
robertwgross
6th of August 2004 (Fri), 09:22
What's a Canon D10?
Is it anything like a Canon 10D?
---Bob Gross---
Scottes
6th of August 2004 (Fri), 09:27
What's a Canon D10?
Is it anything like a Canon 10D?
To everyone but you, Bob.
robertwgross
6th of August 2004 (Fri), 09:30
It seems like such a simple model number to me, but it seems to difficult to get right for so many. <sigh>
---Bob Gross---
Belmondo
6th of August 2004 (Fri), 09:32
It's the Nikon influence. D2H, D70, D100, etc.
How sad. :wink:
Big_B
6th of August 2004 (Fri), 09:40
It's the Nikon influence. D2H, D70, D100, etc.
How sad. :wink:
He must be another canon owner yearning to join the dark side. :wink: :lol:
robertwgross
6th of August 2004 (Fri), 09:42
It's the Nikon influence. D2H, D70, D100, etc.
I can honestly say that I have never had anything to do with those Nikon numbers. I've only shot a total of four frames off Nikon-anything cameras.
We don't see that many Nikonians in these parts, either.
---Bob Gross---
maderito
6th of August 2004 (Fri), 14:59
We don't see that many Nikonians in these parts, either.
---Bob Gross---
Yet another clue as to the whereabouts of Bob Gross, who when I last checked was the only Top 10 Contributor who has not revealed his Location.
Do you live in the desert, Bob? :shock:
neil_r
6th of August 2004 (Fri), 15:25
Cmon guys even Canon did a swap... D30, D60 D10 oops 10D :lol:
robertwgross
6th of August 2004 (Fri), 15:47
Yet another clue as to the whereabouts of Bob Gross, who when I last checked was the only Top 10 Contributor who has not revealed his Location.
Do you live in the desert, Bob?
I guess you haven't been paying attention.
Actually, my location moves around a little. I've been walking since infancy.
I live about four hundred miles north of Belmondo. We generally pass each other on the highway. Instead of waving hello, we just snap our Canons at each other. The last time was about three days ago.
---Bob Gross---
robertwgross
6th of August 2004 (Fri), 15:51
I don't feel comfortable holding a Nikon. When doing a wedding, my partner has tried to thrust his Nikon film camera into my hands to cover something while he ducks out to the restroom, but I don't like to use it. Too many things on it work in the opposite direction from what I am used to on my Canon, so I'm afraid I will get something upside-down.
---Bob Gross---
Scottes
6th of August 2004 (Fri), 17:10
...so I'm afraid I will get something upside-down.
Like a model number?
:) :) :) :)
leehal
6th of August 2004 (Fri), 17:18
What's a Canon D10?
Is it anything like a Canon 10D?
---Bob Gross---
Perhaps its a cross between a DC10 and a 10D seeing as its a shot of a plane :wink:
robertwgross
7th of August 2004 (Sat), 12:02
Like a model number?
No. The lens twists into the lens mount in the opposite direction. The zoom barrel twists the opposite direction. Then the little dials and controls are different.
For me, it is enough of a job to get everything right on my Canon. If I had to think about Nikon also, I'm sure that would make matters worse.
---Bob Gross---
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