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Alan A
9th of August 2004 (Mon), 09:02
Hi all, new here and I am hoping you can answer a question for me.
I currently have a Fuji 6900Z digital camera and am looking to upgrade to an SLR type.
The one thing trhat frustrates me with the Fuji is the shutter lag between pressing the button (even with holding it on focus) and it taking the picture.
What is the Digital rebel/300D like in this matter?
Thanks

tommykjensen
9th of August 2004 (Mon), 09:05
No lag at all. You can shoot action without having to guess when to shoot.

Turning on is a different matter. It takes approx 3 secs. to turn on the camera.

cmM
9th of August 2004 (Mon), 09:05
That won't be an issue. It isn't with most DSLR cameras. If you really want to see how it is, go to a camera store and pick up a rebel and take a few pics. It will stick to your hand ;)

Alan A
9th of August 2004 (Mon), 09:49
Thanks guys,
Now the only other question is should I wait and buy it in the USA` on my next trip or buy the cheapest I can in the UK?

Does the charger work on the digital rebel only in the 100V range or through the whole 100-240V range?

cmM
9th of August 2004 (Mon), 09:52
If you can get away without having to pay tax on it when you take it to the UK, then you can always get a charger from UK, or you can get an adapter from RadioShack (220v-110v)

DocFrankenstein
9th of August 2004 (Mon), 10:43
There is a lag. It is much shorter than the lag in most digicams, but it's still there.

When photographing swimmers doing front crawl, I had to adjust for the lag. I wanted a picture with the hand up and inhaling and I had to start about .25 seconds earlier while the hand was still in the water.

It's small, it's there, it's better than a digicam and you'll get used to it fast.

robertwgross
9th of August 2004 (Mon), 12:44
If you separate the human reaction time from the .25 seconds, I think you will find that the camera shutter lag is nothing that large.

---Bob Gross---

DocFrankenstein
9th of August 2004 (Mon), 12:48
If you separate the human reaction time from the .25 seconds, I think you will find that the camera shutter lag is nothing that large.

I agree, but then you have guys swimming 50 m sprint with 30 to 40 strokes per minute. Their hand will have enough time to leave the water and enter it again...

It matters if you want to catch them in the middle.

Peace

robertwgross
9th of August 2004 (Mon), 12:54
It is for that very reason why a Digital Rebel is not used that much for sports photography. You would have to time it just right and hope to catch the action at the right split second.

The serious sports photographers will use a "bigger" camera with a larger frame buffer, and they will fire off 5-20 frames in a burst. One of them will be at the perfect time.

---Bob Gross---

tommykjensen
9th of August 2004 (Mon), 13:04
It is for that very reason why a Digital Rebel is not used that much for sports photography. You would have to time it just right and hope to catch the action at the right split second.
---Bob Gross---

Well I would say it still possible to shoot action with 300D! The photos in following galleries have all been shot with 300D. Guess I just have perfect timing since I can do with the small buffer of the 300D :wink: Well obviously not all photos are equally great but there are some really good ones and I never had to "guess" to capture the action I just shot when I saw it.

Copenhagen Historic Grand Prix (http://www.klein-jensen.dk/ee/list.php?exhibition=25)

Post Danmark Rundt - Cycling (http://www.klein-jensen.dk/ee/list.php?exhibition=26)

Harris Hawk in flight 1 (http://www.klein-jensen.dk/ee/list.php?exhibition=20)

Harris Hawk in flight 2 (http://www.klein-jensen.dk/ee/list.php?exhibition=21)

DocFrankenstein
9th of August 2004 (Mon), 13:31
It is for that very reason why a Digital Rebel is not used that much for sports photography. You would have to time it just right and hope to catch the action at the right split second.

The serious sports photographers will use a "bigger" camera with a larger frame buffer, and they will fire off 5-20 frames in a burst. One of them will be at the perfect time.
I agree.

12345Michael54321
9th of August 2004 (Mon), 15:45
Well I would say it still possible to shoot action with 300D!
Of course it's possible. It's also possible to shoot action with an 8x10 view camera; it's just not the ideal tool for the job. (Not that I'm suggesting the 300D is anywhere as ill-suited for action photography as would be an 8x10 view camera. Just that - as has been noted - serious sports photographers can usually find a camera better suited to their needs than is the 300D, albeit often at considerably higher price.)

This having been said, the 300D's shutter lag (based on actual measurement) is something on the close order of 128 milliseconds, which is way, way faster than a typical digital p&s. (By comparison, the 10D clocks in at about 90ms.)

I would also mention that most casual photographers who complain about shutter lag are actually complaining about focus lag. Although I'm not claiming that the original poster was making this mistake.

Cadwell
9th of August 2004 (Mon), 15:52
Thanks guys,
Now the only other question is should I wait and buy it in the USA` on my next trip or buy the cheapest I can in the UK?

Does the charger work on the digital rebel only in the 100V range or through the whole 100-240V range?

If you buy it in the States warranty may be a problem. Canon UK have stated that they will not honour US warranties on 1D MkII bodies (although they do honour lens warranties), they may take the same approach with the 300D - I would clarify this with Canon UK before buying from the States.

KennyG
9th of August 2004 (Mon), 16:41
I'll add to Cadwell's comments. Canon UK will only warrant lenses, period. If you don't mind sending your camera back to the US for repair in the unlikely event it goes wrong, then buy from somewhere reputable like B&H. But, you can get good deals on a 300D in the UK from a number of places and the relatively small savings may not be worth the risk of an import.

All Canon power supplies are 110-240V and the only difference is the mains lead/plug. Either swap the plug or get a figure of eight mains lead from Maplins.

Mogwyth
10th of August 2004 (Tue), 12:19
You can buy third party warranties. My Rebel/300D has a Mackcam.com warranty with UK servicing. Any reputable US supplier should be able to organise this for not much.

I can confirm the charger will work with no problems, I just swopped the lead with the one from an old radiocassete.

monsieurhappy
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 09:04
Thanks guys,
Now the only other question is should I wait and buy it in the USA` on my next trip or buy the cheapest I can in the UK?

Does the charger work on the digital rebel only in the 100V range or through the whole 100-240V range?

Hi, I just got my new 300D yesterday, in Thailand. Price 36900 baht. with about 74 baht to the GBP. So take a great holiday and get your camera at a great price. BTW it came complete with English plug for charger and all instructions in English. The voltage rate in Thailand is the same as UK. 8) 8)

PhotosGuy
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 10:03
Shutter lag? See this post:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39611

I missed the 'ideal' pic by about 1/1000 sec. I was too early & didn't include all of the nose of the left Mustang. :wink:

As to the power up time, if it's hanging around your neck, flip the on switch as you pick it up. By the time you get it to your eye & adjust the zoom, it's ready to shoot. Or, why not leave it on & spend $20 on a 2nd battery?
As I see it, it's not a camera problem, it's a photographer problem when you buy a $1000 cam & don't back it up with enough power to use it all day! :wink: :wink: :wink: