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vvizard
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 04:26
As I was sitting in my sofa, in todays early hours and had a cigarette, I watched the smoke slowly float onto my camera. I was just wondering if camera/lenses should be kept away from such? Can the smoke create a layer of "dirt" on the lens-coating, or even worse, on the mirror/sensor/af-mechanism?
PJ
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 04:31
Smoke is evil to all electronic devices.
It's best to keep your camera and lens out of smoke unless totally necessary to take the pics.
Belmondo
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 04:32
Common sense would suggest that you're better off keeping your camera (and yourself) away from tobacco smoke as much as possible. I'm not convinced that there's any great concern about your mirror and sensor, but anything external, including optics, could be affected.
Quit smoking. That solves the problem.
robertwgross
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 04:33
Yes.
If the smoke collects on the main sensor, then it can be cleaned.
If the smoke collects onto some of the other critical places, like the mirror, the secondary sensors, etc, then there is hell to pay.
A friend of mine who shoots a Nikon has the same smoking habit. He will not smoke around his camera equipment. Not one bit.
However, if his grandchildren are there, he has no problem with it.
Go figure.
---Bob Gross---
Cadwell
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 04:55
Given how filthy the inside of my car windscreen used to get from my smoking habit, I'd say yes.
defordphoto
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 05:01
Cigarette tar sticks like snot to everything it comes in contact with. Your computers, drapes, sofa, clothes, throat, lungs, cameras, lenses, your children, friends.
Nuff said.
Ikinaa
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 05:27
I once worked in a company where I also serviced the PCs.
There was one office (always doors and windows closed) with two middle-aged ladies where no one wanted to go in (the office also).
Every once in a while, their PCs broke down and when opening them, you couldn't even read the markings on the boards or the chips in it.
Everything was sticky, I guess it was the tar...
I was disgusting...
I guess it's the same with everything exposed to smoke...
As belmondo said : quit smoking, that will solve the problem, then calculate the amount of money you don't spend on cigarettes and buy yourself an 'L' every 6 months... :twisted:
My guess : 1 pack of cigarettes : 5 Euro (I suppose, I don't know the price)
6 months = 180 days
1 pack of cigarettes a day = 5 * 180 = 900 Euro...
Hey that's a 300D with the kit lens every 6 months...
So you can throw your cam away every time the sensor needs to be cleaned...
davkenrem
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 05:48
Great thread, I worked as an electrician for many years and had to service office that smokers worked in the florecent bulbs in their offices were alwya dimmer and sticky with a brownish goo on them. So yeah if you got a multi thousand dollar camera, dont' smoke around it, family members too..
Tom W
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 07:04
As an ex-smoker, I can attest to the film that gathers on everything. It doesn't do your body much good either.
I won't preach about it, but I'll say once that you should quit now. No excuses - get help from the doctor or go cold turkey like I did (and man was I a bear to get along with for a while - still am, probably). Your body will thank you years down the road.
evilenglishman
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 07:15
as Chandler Bing once said, you're all jealous because you know smoking is cool
Jemook
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 07:24
my suggestion to all smokers:
go to a chandeleir restoration store and ask to see a chandeleir from a smokers house.
it will be yellow and sticky with a thick layer of tar.
now if this is exhaled smoke, imagine what it's doing to the inside of your lungs, where it is concentrated.
cmM
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 08:13
smoke will damage electronics, especially magnetic stuff. If you have a microdrive, and smoke/tar gets on the surface it is more likely to fail sooner.
I used to be a smoker for a few years... (I know, I am young :oops: ), but I quit 8 months ago. Haven't smoked since. Addiction is only a mental thing. If you are determined to quit, you will have no issues doing it... without pills and sh!t like that. I get really pissed when I hear people saying "I want to quit, but I can't". Cutting down isn't gonna work either... Just quit !
Haifidelity
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 08:38
If your camera objects, just put a nicotine patch on it. Near the lens mount for most the most efficient delivery of addictive chemicals.
Of course, i'm kidding. Don't smoke near your equipment, the tar will build up.
xuxu1
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 10:08
I quit smoking (over night) 10 months ago. To make it easier i decided spend the saved money on camera equipment. It did´nt take very long for me to get a 10D and shortly a 100-400L IS lens. :D
No... i´m not going to start smoking again since there are quite a few additional lenses on my wish list. 8)
Besides.... and i´m saving additional money now. Dont´t have to paint my working room every year. The wall painting stays nice and white much longer! :lol:
Regards
Ed
PhotosGuy
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 10:11
So you can throw your cam away every time the sensor needs to be cleaned...
:lol: :lol: :lol:
If you are concerned about the lens, just add a UV filter which will protect the coating on your lens. I shoot in the rain, in dusty conditions, etc & sometimes appreciate the option of just wipeing off the filter with anything that's handy & I'm still using Nikkors I bought 40 years ago. When the filter shows signs of 'wear', throw it away & get another one.
timmyquest
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 10:13
This thread angers me, i live in a house with two smokers who do not give me the resepect to not smoke around me and more importantly my computer and my camera.
Belmondo
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 10:22
I recently met a person who had a Sigma SD9, and we were talking cameras (obviously). He was showing me the viewfinder image, and when I held the camera up to my eye, I was blown away by the smell. The man was a smoker, and the camera reeked. I didn’t say anything, but later observed that he often held a lit cigarette in his left hand while shooting with the camera. It is really hard to imagine how that kind of treatment wouldn’t have an immediate negative effect on all components of the camera. I don’t think being in the same general area as someone who is smoking would necessarily be problematic, but being held an inch or so from a lit cigarette almost certainly has to be.
Belmondo
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 10:33
This thread angers me, i live in a house with two smokers who do not give me the resepect to not smoke around me and more importantly my computer and my camera.
Generally speaking, Timmy, smokers are clueless. I used to smoke---in fact, I was a chain smoker. Three packs a day was pretty normal for me, and I'm ashamed to say that I did it without a lot of regard for those around me.
I look back at different times such as riding in the car, at the dinner table, or just when sitting around watching television, I thought very little of lighting up.
I quit almost 30 years ago, and now much better understand the impact my smoking had on my environment and on those around me. For years, I was cleaning brown 'gunk' off walls in the house.
Now, when my wife comes out of the casino, I can smell smoke on her clothes and in her hair. She doesn't smoke, and my sense of smell is not what it used to be (thanks to smoking), but the smell is definitely there. I can only imagine what I was inflicting on those poor souls who had to ride in the car with me whenever I lit up.
About the only thing you can do when you live with smokers is bitch a lot . Maybe you can fight fire with fire by burning incense every time they light up or something.
You really shouldn't have to put up with it.
Tom
Jon
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 10:39
There's a post here (http://www.drkeyboard.net/viewtopic.php?t=1532) on cleaning hi-fi equipment that's lived in a smoke-filled environment.
Danny Boy
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 11:37
I don't smoke nor do I hang out w/ smokers. I do find this thread rather entertaining though. A also feel like I'm in therapy. :lol: :lol:
evilenglishman
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 12:03
This thread angers me, i live in a house with two smokers who do not give me the resepect to not smoke around me and more importantly my computer and my camera.
stop moaning and move!
cmM
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 12:08
stop moaning and move!
Oh oh !
Here comes the smoker :P
That was pretty funny about Chandler Bing. I remember that.
:wink:
samdring
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 12:35
I find nikontine stains to be the worst :)
Ballen Photo
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 13:02
As I was sitting in my sofa, in todays early hours and had a cigarette, I watched the smoke slowly float onto my camera. I was just wondering if camera/lenses should be kept away from such? Can the smoke create a layer of "dirt" on the lens-coating, or even worse, on the mirror/sensor/af-mechanism?
Lenses have optical coatings, and this is why you have to be careful when cleaning them, as they are easy to ruin. Cigarrette smoke adheres to everything like glue. I think you already know the correct answer to this, unless you want a permanent haze filter on all your lenses. :shock:
........Bruce
Persian-Rice
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 13:38
If you expose things to smoke regularly, you will notice they do tend to get a oily film of tar on them. A good example is to run your finger on the inside of your car windshield if you have not cleaned it in a while. The first thing you notice your windshield is rather dirty, clean it. The same goes towards lenses and the sensor. Over time, you will get a fine film on them, so it better not to speed up the proccess by smoking near them.
As a matter of fact, stop smoking all together!
cheers.
Tom W
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 13:40
I find nikontine stains to be the worst :)
:D
I suppose some will have to read it twice.
cmM
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 13:43
I find nikontine stains to be the worst :)
:D
I suppose some will have to read it twice.
Now I did
ROFLMAO !!!!! :D :D :D
Belmondo
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 13:58
Oh lord, How did I miss that?
Ballen Photo
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 14:02
I find nikontine stains to be the worst :)
:D
I suppose some will have to read it twice.
Now I did
ROFLMAO !!!!! :D :D :D
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
-Bruce
Mike Hammer
11th of August 2004 (Wed), 15:50
Your camera/lenses will probally out live you. Stop smoking and live longer so you can take more pictures. I quit 22 years ago yesterday.
Mike
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