General Wedding Chit Chat Thread... (Part 3)

[notapro]

Happy New Year to everyone!

[JimAskew]

Happy New Year to All From NOVA :)

May you all book many wedding events and share your great results with us all :D

[SuzyView]

Hi, Jim. Hope you and your sweet wife had a good New Year celebration. We stayed home with the boys. I'm not feeling all too well, and guess what? I have terrible tennis elbow from all the shooting. :(

[Kathy H]

Good Morning and Happy New Year!

[SuzyView]

Kathy, glad you see you are around still.

[Kathy H]

Kathy, glad you see you are around still.
Thanks Suzie!

I am still around, but this is my slow time as far as taking photos and my full on rush time to get everything in my business taken care of for the years end.

The seniors that I shoot all year have to turn in their choice of photo for the yearbook by December 20 so that I can resize, crop and do any correntions on the images before the cut off date of January 8. Probably doesn't sound like a huge chore, but when you have over 1500 kids from 3 different schools to work with, it gets pretty crazy! I will be done with them by Friday afternoon if all goes as planned.

When this is all over with and springtime weddings start in, you will be seeing me around as a regular again.:D

[JimAskew]

Hi, Jim. Hope you and your sweet wife had a good New Year celebration. We stayed home with the boys. I'm not feeling all too well, and guess what? I have terrible tennis elbow from all the shooting. :(

Hi Suzie,

We went to Chicago to visit our oldest daughter and her family on the 26th. I now know why God gives you kids while you are young. We took Joe (age 6) and Jules (age 3) with us. After four days in the car driving to and from my eyeballs are revolving in opposite directions ;)

We had a wonderful time, however, and the "extra" Christmas on the 27th in Chicago was a real plus :D

The little guys got to see six inches of snow and really enjoyed that. Here are a couple of shots I made on last Friday...I was a 1st class wuss and shot these from the porch of my daughter's house :D

Hope you are feeling better soon :)

[Kathy H]

Those are cute Jim, and I'm with you, I would have been on the porch too. Besides you can't get the camera out there in the falling snow! lol

[JimAskew]

Kathy,

Thanks and Happy new Year :)

The kids had a ball with the snow...but my 30D is a "fair weather" camera body :) Besides, I'm a "sun bunny" and just do not like cold weather!

[SuzyView]

Cold today in VA. I had to wear gloves today to go to Costco. I hardly ever wear gloves. But my sister in Albany got tons of snow. She said the roads get cleared fast, though. If it snowed 1 foot here, in VA, we'd have a week of no school.

[Kathy H]

Cold here in OR too, but at least the wind isn't blowing.

I have a sick cat that I am taking to the vet in a few hours. I hate it when a baby or animal is sick and can't tell me what's wrong. She just lays there with big sad eyes and looks pathetic! It breaks my heart!:(

[LeesaB]

Hey morning everyone! Great day!

That snow is sickening, LOL, we have a ton of it ourselves.

Ok, I'm heading out for breakfast this morning, everyone be good

Kathy, it was nice to chat with you last night, lots of things made more sense after that. We'll talk more later.

[sapearl]

Morning Lisa! Yeah, we got hammered up here in Cleveland too. Had to run out to he airport last night and pick up another house guest, but beat the storm back. Well, off to work now :D. I'll try to peak back later for some conversation.

[JimAskew]

Hey morning everyone! Great day!

That snow is sickening, LOL, we have a ton of it ourselves.

Ok, I'm heading out for breakfast this morning, everyone be good

Kathy, it was nice to chat with you last night, lots of things made more sense after that. We'll talk more later.

Morning Lisa! Yeah, we got hammered up here in Cleveland too. Had to run out to he airport last night and pick up another house guest, but beat the storm back. Well, off to work now :D. I'll try to peak back later for some conversation.

Good Morning All,

We had to cut short our vacation in Chicago in order to get back to Virginia ahead of the storm that nailed you guys. We left on Sunday and got home on Monday afternoon. We spent Sunday night in Newton Falls, OH watching football and surfing the 'Net...Newton Falls is in the middle of nowhere ;)

For the record...I hate snow with a passion!

[LeesaB]

Hey Stu....yeah, the kids had school off yesterday....it's pretty cold today, but looks like they are going. You guys always get it worse then we do. SO, I guess winter is here, YUK

Jim, I wish you would have let me know, I'm right outside Newton Falls, where were you at...talk about boon town...wow, it's way out there...and they have NOTHING..get this their zip code is 44444, that is what they are known for. LOL

OOO and as far as that record goes...I hate snow more then anyone! ;)

[JimAskew]

... Jim, I wish you would have let me know, I'm right outside Newton Falls, where were you at...talk about boon town...wow, it's way out there...and they have NOTHING..get this their zip code is 44444, that is what they are known for. LOL

OOO and as far as that record goes...I hate snow more then anyone! ;)

Lisa, I wish I had known that as well! I love to meet members of our POTN family...I have had the privilege of meeting over a dozen members face-to-face in the past two years. We have a pretty active local "meet up" group here in NOVA thanks largely to Suzie & Jon...they are wonderful organizers :) As for Newton Falls I guess the big tourist attraction is the Ravenna Ammo Plant ;) The 44444 zip code is way cool!

We stayed at the Rodeway Inn just off I-80...two adjourning rooms (the grandkids in one and my wife & I in the other) for only $99.00! We also stayed there on the way out as well. Next trip I'll PM you and we can meet for dinner and say hello :D We go to Chicago to visit our oldest daughter about three times a year.

[LeesaB]

Lisa, I wish I had known that as well! I love to meet members of our POTN family...I have had the privilege of meeting over a dozen members face-to-face in the past two years. We have a pretty active local "meet up" group here in NOVA thanks largely to Suzie & Jon...they are wonderful organizers :) As for Newton Falls I guess the big tourist attraction is the Ravenna Ammo Plant ;) The 44444 zip code is way cool!

We stayed at the Rodeway Inn just off I-80...two adjourning rooms (the grandkids in one and my wife & I in the other) for only $99.00! We also stayed there on the way out as well. Next trip I'll PM you and we can meet for dinner and say hello :D We go to Chicago to visit our oldest daughter about three times a year.

Jim, next time give me a shout, I'd love to meet you. I've only met a few. OO yes, the Arsenol. the only reason it's here is the cloud cover. We are cloudy I believe 78% of the year. it sucks. High rate of depression also, no joke! Not me, I could not be happier! Well, ok, I'd be happier in Arizonia or Israel or something, but if I have to be in Ohio, I'll be happy here also. Yes, I figured it was just off of 80, there's a nice Holiday Inn there also.

[notapro]

Just bored at work and thought I'd pop in to say Hi over here. So.. Hi!

[Kathy H]

Hi Amanda! Bored at work...LOL That sounds familiar!

Been a pretty busy day here. I am finally getting close to the end of my ledger work., finally. I will be glad to have it done. I don't have to report it until tax time in April, but I wanted it done so I don't get any surprises.

[SuzyView]

Got home from the doctor and I do have tennis elbow. I'm on anti-inflamatories for a while and then if it still hurts, shots. But, at least I was right. Have to stop twisting the arm and stuff. I need to do physical therapy so taking pictures is not painful.

[notapro]

Hi Amanda! Bored at work...LOL That sounds familiar!

Been a pretty busy day here. I am finally getting close to the end of my ledger work., finally. I will be glad to have it done. I don't have to report it until tax time in April, but I wanted it done so I don't get any surprises.

Do businesses get extra time to file in the US? We get until July here, but you still have to pay by the deadline in April, so I'm not entirely sure what good it does anybody. Maybe for some businesses the extra time is helpful in some way.

I'm trying to figure out how to show on taxes that the start-up money for my business came from my husband, but I don't know if I can. Which sucks, because it really did come from his income. I was on mat leave half of this year and making crappy money the other half, and would have got all of my income tax back anyway. he, on the other hand, will have to pay a big chunk, so it would be nice to deduct the investment we made from his income. I should probably talk to an accountant...

[notapro]

Got home from the doctor and I do have tennis elbow. I'm on anti-inflamatories for a while and then if it still hurts, shots. But, at least I was right. Have to stop twisting the arm and stuff. I need to do physical therapy so taking pictures is not painful.

oooh... that must hurt terribly. I've never had tennis elbow, but I hear it's quite painful. Was it taking pictures that caused it or something else?

[LeesaB]

Hi everyone,

so the sun is out here, I have an e shoot tomorrow afternoon, and excited about the bridal show next ...then I finally get to get out of dodge the following...so busy month already.

[Kathy H]

Amanda, an accountant would be a big help. I have found that what I pay mine is well worth it. He knows how to do it right so if you get audited he has you covered. I would think that the money from your husband for your business would be called a loan, your business would show how it was used and the deductions from that might balance out the total wages recieved for him so he wouldn't have to pay as much tax on it. It's all so hard to explain! Talk to an accountant! Is your husband self employed?
I have a business, my husband has a business, and I have a job. All of the earnings and deductions go in the same pot in the end at tax time, so if either of us gained or lost to much, it balances out pretty well usually.

[Kathy H]

Hi everyone,

so the sun is out here, I have an e shoot tomorrow afternoon, and excited about the bridal show next ...then I finally get to get out of dodge the following...so busy month already.

Hi again Lisa!

I have a senior tomorrow and 3 family shoots on Sunday.

Then Monday it's back to school!

The sun is not out here! It's overcast and windy!

[SuzyView]

The doctor thinks that was a straw that broke the camel's back, to speak. I had been trying too hard for the holidays and I guess I over did it. It's quite swollen.

[JimAskew]

Got home from the doctor and I do have tennis elbow. I'm on anti-inflamatories for a while and then if it still hurts, shots. But, at least I was right. Have to stop twisting the arm and stuff. I need to do physical therapy so taking pictures is not painful.

Ouch, Suzie! How did you get "tennis elbow" by using your camera? I hope it clears up very soon and you are back fit as a fiddle :)

My only camera related physical issue is fatigue. At the end of an all day wedding gig I am just bushed! My New Year's resolution is to exercise (walking) more in order to get into better shape.

Anyone who thinks photography is a physically easy job ought to shoot a full day wedding. Emotionally and physically it will just drain off your energy.

[Kathy H]

Suzie sorry to hear you have a sore arm. I get sore wrists sometimes but so far the elbows have held out!

Jim you are so right on the weddings being exhausting. Besides the wedding day itself, the before hand stress of being perfectly prepared and then the afterwards PP work is enough to make me need a long nap!

[notapro]

Amanda, an accountant would be a big help. I have found that what I pay mine is well worth it. He knows how to do it right so if you get audited he has you covered. I would think that the money from your husband for your business would be called a loan, your business would show how it was used and the deductions from that might balance out the total wages recieved for him so he wouldn't have to pay as much tax on it. It's all so hard to explain! Talk to an accountant! Is your husband self employed?
I have a business, my husband has a business, and I have a job. All of the earnings and deductions go in the same pot in the end at tax time, so if either of us gained or lost to much, it balances out pretty well usually.

He's self-employed, I have a business, we have a business together, and I'm employed. He's going to switch his own clients over to the business that we have together this month so that we can split the income more evenly. Right now his income is about 85% of our income and it doesn't all get pooled together. We had been holding off so that only he would have to charge GST, but at this point it's not benefitting us anymore, and I could use the GST rebates as well. I thought about putting it on the books as a loan from him, but that's what I want to check with an accountant about and whether it's the correct way to do it or if it is possible now since we have no documentation of it.


The doctor thinks that was a straw that broke the camel's back, to speak. I had been trying too hard for the holidays and I guess I over did it. It's quite swollen.

well, I hope you're feeling better soon and don't need the shots!

Hi everyone,

so the sun is out here, I have an e shoot tomorrow afternoon, and excited about the bridal show next ...then I finally get to get out of dodge the following...so busy month already.

Good to be busy! When is the bridal show?

[SuzyView]

Oh, I would love a bridal show! I enjoy those. I did a family-newborn shoot the Sat. before Christmas and that did it. I was holding the gear too long. The next day, I couldn't move the arm. When people ask if it hurts, well, imagine not being able to pour anything or twist anything without screaming. :) Yes, feel bad for me. So, arm band on, scarf around the neck to rest the arm close to the body, no cooking, no cleaning, no pictures for about a week. If it doesn't clear up, I am in trouble. Being here doesn't help either, but at least I rest my arm on the laptop panel.

Oh, I reconfigured my set-up, Jim. Got the new Dell laptop with the 22 inch Samsung behind the sofa, attched to 2 hard drives, the new Epson RX595 All-in-One and PictrureMate. Got the two Bose speakers on the sides, all plugged into the APC battery back-up. Try doing that with one arm! :)

[JimAskew]

... Oh, I reconfigured my set-up, Jim. Got the new Dell laptop with the 22 inch Samsung behind the sofa, attched to 2 hard drives, the new Epson RX595 All-in-One and PictrureMate. Got the two Bose speakers on the sides, all plugged into the APC battery back-up. Try doing that with one arm! :)

Sweet :) I have the 22 inch LCD monitor on my "wish" list.

Right now I am beginning my research for a UWA L lens to go with my soon to be purchased 5D. I am looking at the 17-40MM f/4 EF L or the 16-35MM f/2.8 EF L Mark II. The question is is the 16-35MM that much better to pay twice the price over the 17-40MM???

Anyone here have any thoughts?

[Kathy H]

Good Morning all!

I LOVE my 22 inch monitor! I got it early last summer. I didn't know what I was missing until I saw how wonderful it is! It makes working on images so much easier and enjoyable!

I have a senior shoot scheduled for today at 1:00, but the wind is blowing so hard here I may have to reschedule. I was really looking forward to it too! Darn!

[notapro]

Sweet :) I have the 22 inch LCD monitor on my "wish" list.

Right now I am beginning my research for a UWA L lens to go with my soon to be purchased 5D. I am looking at the 17-40MM f/4 EF L or the 16-35MM f/2.8 EF L Mark II. The question is is the 16-35MM that much better to pay twice the price over the 17-40MM???

Anyone here have any thoughts?

Not that this is really helpful, because I don't have either, but I looked at both and decided to go 17-40 for now. Eventually I'd like to make it my back up to the 16-35, but it was too steep for me to swing right now since I also have some other expenses coming up.

[Belmondo]

Good Morning all!

I LOVE my 22 inch monitor! I got it early last summer. I didn't know what I was missing until I saw how wonderful it is! It makes working on images so much easier and enjoyable!

I have a senior shoot scheduled for today at 1:00, but the wind is blowing so hard here I may have to reschedule. I was really looking forward to it too! Darn!Hi Kathy...
You can never have too much monitor for image editing. The more you get, the more you want. And once you get that big monitor, it's very difficult to ga back to anything smaller. I find myself getting frustrated with my 17" MacBook Pro; I won't even attempt it with my 13" MacBook. Truth is, I'm using a 30" Apple Cinema Display at home, and have even had a second monitor hooked up to that computer at various times.

Good luck on the senior shoot. Hopefully the weather will cooperate.

[Kathy H]

Tom that is so true....everytime I have to do anything on a smaller monitor, I find myself moving at all angles to find a place where it looks okay..closer, farther, left, right, shut one eye, LOL Nothing helps though.

The senior shoot is off for today, client just called and wants to reschedule for a better weather day. Good luck on that, it will probably get worse before it gets better.

The appointment did get me out of going to the woods to help my husbands company move heavy equipment from one job site to another though, so it is not really a let down day.lol

My brother took some pictures of the partial move yesterday, I'll get one up here so you can see all the fun I missed out on! UGH!

[Kathy H]

Here's a couple from yesterdays move. The tires on that machine are nearly 6 feet tall. When I go I usually get to be the lucky body that gets to stand on the trailer deck and direct the driver, who can't see where he is going from up in the seat. Talk about stressful...I HATE it! One wrong direction and the machine is on it's side! Excuse the poor quality of these shots, I'll be dammed if I'm going to do PP work on these kind of shots! lol

[JimAskew]

Not that this is really helpful, because I don't have either, but I looked at both and decided to go 17-40 for now. Eventually I'd like to make it my back up to the 16-35, but it was too steep for me to swing right now since I also have some other expenses coming up.

Amanda,

Thanks for the input. I agree with you. I looked at 100s of photos on pBase and the 17-40MM looks great to me. It really is f/2.8 v. f/4 decision I think. The real good news is that I have enough AMEX Reward points to get the 17-40MM at no cost :) A 5D for $2.1K plus a "free to me" 17-40MM EF L is a sweet deal :)

[JimAskew]

Here's a couple from yesterdays move. The tires on that machine are nearly 6 feet tall. When I go I usually get to be the lucky body that gets to stand on the trailer deck and direct the driver, who can't see where he is going from up in the seat. Talk about stressful...I HATE it! One wrong direction and the machine is on it's side! Excuse the poor quality of these shots, I'll be dammed if I'm going to do PP work on these kind of shots! lol

Kathy,

What is the function of the machine that they are loading? It has a strange boom on it.

Jim

[Kathy H]

It's a delimber. It picks up a tree/log and the butt of the tree stops at the back plate then the arm slides down the tree and slices the branches off.

It is just one of many contraptions they use. It is pretty much a "no-waste" operation. They don't clear cut any of the land, just thin it for better regrowth. The bigger trees are used as saw logs to make lumber for building, smaller trees are used for poles, short and small or branches and breakage for firewood or chip wood.

[jamesdean007]

Hi everyone

[LeesaB]

HI everyone..just stopped in to say HI

IT"S beautiful here...65 degrees it's amazing! I will enjoy it, Going to the park in a few to run, raked some leaves earlier...

Life is Goooooooooood!

How is everyone else doing

Lisa B.

[Belmondo]

HI everyone..just stopped in to say HI

IT"S beautiful here...65 degrees it's amazing! I will enjoy it, Going to the park in a few to run, raked some leaves earlier...

Life is Goooooooooood!

How is everyone else doing

Lisa B.Don't worry. We're sending some weather your way.:lol: It's raining here today (lightly), and that's very unusual. We usually see very little rainfall. In fact, we had a storm through here a couple weeks ago that dropped some rain. It wasn't a significant amount, certainly less than an inch. Nonetheless, it was equal to all the precipitation so far this year, and all of last year combined.

We have a row of mountains immediately to the west and south of us, and they tend to block the weather coming in off the ocean.

The irony is that we're susceptible to flash flooding here. The rain falls in the mountains and funnels down into the desert. We have washes (natural spillways) that fill up very dramatically and occasionally spill over their banks, even when we've had no rain here.

[LeesaB]

BEL!!! How are you doing?

Well, keep your weather PLEASE...

My daughter and I joked this morning...Enjoy this weather because next week it's going to

Rain/snow/expected tornado/hurricane and flooding coming your way. ice storm to follow.

I just love spring, it's like LIFE. I know it's not the real deal, but at least it makes me feel like it is.

I think this warm front ends Wed. Oh well..I work Wed night, so not a big deal for me.

[Belmondo]

I'm enjoying the rain, so I'll try to get it to hang around here as long as possible.

[LeesaB]

Please DO! Keep it as long as you wish!:D

[Belmondo]

Please DO! Keep it as long as you wish!:DIronic that we live here and I find myself missing the rain. That was one of the reasons we left the SF Bay Area....long, wet winters.

[LeesaB]

Ironic that we live here and I find myself missing the rain. That was one of the reasons we left the SF Bay Area....long, wet winters.

I hate winter, I will take rain over snow any day, BUT, love hot hot days...the hotter the better. I dont' have air, and never will, I love the heat.

open windows...breeze...ahhhhhhh ok..I'm enjoying this too much, I'll be crying Wed. night!

We thought of moving to California or Arizonia last year, made a few calls and it just was not going to work out. I had people say "you'll miss the snow, the seasons" Are they kidding?

[Belmondo]

I hate winter, I will take rain over snow any day, BUT, love hot hot days...the hotter the better. I dont' have air, and never will, I love the heat.

open windows...breeze...ahhhhhhh ok..I'm enjoying this too much, I'll be crying Wed. night!

We thought of moving to California or Arizonia last year, made a few calls and it just was not going to work out. I had people say "you'll miss the snow, the seasons" Are they kidding?You could not live here without air conditioning. Our summer days are frequently over 115F. I've seen 127F here twice. A/C is an absolute necessity.

[LeesaB]

I would think out there I would, but in Ohio, our highs are generally 90, 92, if that...

I love it. I may melt at 115.

[Belmondo]

I would think out there I would, but in Ohio, our highs are generally 90, 92, if that...

I love it. I may melt at 115.But you have humidity...ACK!!

Gotta' run. My battery indicator just went red. I die in less than 5 minutes. RIP Belmondo

Catch up to you later.


Tom

[LeesaB]

Nice Chattin'

You're my favorite POTN Mod.. :D

[Grace]

Nice Chattin'

Your my favorite POTN Mod.. :D


Lisa...

It is " YOU'RE my favorite POTN Mod." :lol:

:)

[LeesaB]

I stand corrected! Again!

Hey, I'm doing better, I really am!

[SuzyView]

How are you Kathy (Grace)? I've been wondering if the wedding crowd is still around. Seems like most have left.

Jim, the 17-40 is a great lens, but only outdoors. I've tried it indoors and it's hard to work with even with flash. Doable, but I usually use the 24-70 for most indoor shots. If you want to try mine, I'll bring it along next time. Jon is bringing his tubes and if you still want to try the picturemate, just ask.

[Grace]

I'm well Suzy! I have been in people more than any where..and a little over in performing arts. This is my down time for weddings! Woo hoo...a little break!

And I just finally converted the Cody's room into the play room! Both boys are in bunkbeds now! I have cleaned out every closet in my house! I have been totally productive! lol! How are you?

[Grace]

233585

233586

Every toy has it's own home now :)

[JimAskew]

... Jim, the 17-40 is a great lens, but only outdoors. I've tried it indoors and it's hard to work with even with flash. Doable, but I usually use the 24-70 for most indoor shots. If you want to try mine, I'll bring it along next time. Jon is bringing his tubes and if you still want to try the picturemate, just ask.

Suzie, what is the issue indoors? f/4 too slow? I am looking for a UWA for weddings...I guess I could keep the 10-22 on the 30D and the 24-70 on the 5D?

... And I just finally converted the Cody's room into the play room! Both boys are in bunkbeds now! I have cleaned out every closet in my house! I have been totally productive! lol! How are you?

Grace, love the kid's room look...my 3 year old granddaughter would approve big time :)

[SuzyView]

No issue. Just with the 5D, it's too wide. So the 24-70 is plenty wide, you would have everyone looking weird and out of proportion. So, the 30D with 17-55 and the 5D with 24-70 is the same. If I were you, I'd do the 24-70 on the 5D and 10-22 on the 30D as you said. I hardly ever go wider than 35mm close up, otherwise the people are on the wide side on the ends. This is why I wish I had 2 5D's to have the 24-70 on one and the 70-200 2.8 IS on the other for indoors. That's what David had in UT for Brandon & Sarah's reception. He had the 5D with the 70-200 and the 1DMKIII with 24-70 on the Custom Bracket. Nice and heavy, but what a set up.

[Belmondo]

:o:o:oNice Chattin'

You're my favorite POTN Mod.. :D


Mine too.;)

[SuzyView]

Kathy, nice room. I should take a picture of the basement and family rooms now. We have the PS2 with Rock Band on the 55 inch and the Wii upstairs with the 37 inch. My kids are in heaven.

[LeesaB]

YIKES...

I feel like some raiser of the dead...

Resurrecting the dead....again

Jared..DO YOUR JOB!

[Belmondo]

YIKES...

I feel like some raiser of the dead...

Resurrecting the dead....again

Jared..DO YOUR JOB!

I can't help. I'm sound asleep.

[Grace]

I can't help. I'm being mean.

[Grace]

:)

How are you two lovely peeps!!

[Belmondo]

Shhhh. Sleeping.

[Grace]

ooh!! sorry!! walks softly back to the people forum! :)

[LeesaB]

Bel, if we are shhhhhh..the thread will die again..
OOOOOOOOOoooooooooo I see.... uh huh..you want it to go to sleep again LOL

[Belmondo]

Bel, if we are shhhhhh..the thread will die again..
OOOOOOOOOoooooooooo I see.... uh huh..you want it to go to sleep again LOLNope. I'm wide awake now. Kathy's really bad at tiptoeing.:lol:

[SuzyView]

Kathy, you were being a little mean in the other thread, but really, I'm tired of people whining. Oh, was I whining about people whining?

[LeesaB]

Nope. I'm wide awake now. Kathy's really bad at tiptoeing.:lol:

Glad to have you awake...now I am leaving..got a consult at 6.

I could sing you a song to go back to sleep...at least it works on the baby LOL

[Grace]

Kathy, you were being a little mean in the other thread, but really, I'm tired of people whining. Oh, was I whining about people whining?


I know!!!! I'm sorry...kinda. It is really out of character of me to post all the thoughts that run through my brain..but he was irritating the poo out of me.

I will really try and go back to always nice! :) with a touch of sarcasm...I just can't shake that!

[SuzyView]

I think he took you too seriously at the start and made you mad. I've only seen a couple of people defending their shots like that here. I guess I've had my share of "it's okay, not great" shots, but I don't think I ever got mad about it. But at least Jeff came out of the dark. :)

[Grace]

Good luck Lisa!

[Belmondo]

If it's the thread I'm thinking of, it was painful to read. Admittedly, some people ask to be beat up, but it's always a little distressing to see others go completely out of character to accommodate him/her. They were pretty rough on the guy.

[Grace]

sorry..again.



kinda..

[SuzyView]

Seriously, that's why I don't post pictures too much. I'm so busy, I don't have time to post and then defend the work. :)

[Belmondo]

sorry..again.



kinda..

No apology necessary





kinda..

[Belmondo]

Seriously, that's why I don't post pictures too much. I'm so busy, I don't have time to post and then defend the work. :)It's a two-edged sword. Say too much, and people get offended. Say nothing and they're offended.

i just wish people would work a little harder at tact. I guess when you're perfect like me, it's hard not to be critical on occasion.

[SuzyView]

I don't see you posting pictures and defending them, Tom. :)

Yes, I've seen some of the latter recently, and it is kind of interesting. I've also seen some amazing wedding photography here recently. Some people are truly talented and I'm glad they post their work. It's a lot of "Great job" comments, but really deserved.

[Belmondo]

I don't see you posting pictures and defending them, Tom. :)

Yes, I've seen some of the latter recently, and it is kind of interesting. I've also seen some amazing wedding photography here recently. Some people are truly talented and I'm glad they post their work. It's a lot of "Great job" comments, but really deserved.

Every time I post an image, I preface it with "I know this stinks, but......"

It's all uphill from there.:lol:

[SuzyView]

LOL. So you are the one who starts threads that way. I forgot. :);)

[SuzyView]

Oh, I just noticed I got my old title back. Thanks Title Fairy. :)

[JimAskew]

Seriously, that's why I don't post pictures too much. I'm so busy, I don't have time to post and then defend the work. :)

It's a two-edged sword. Say too much, and people get offended. Say nothing and they're offended.

i just wish people would work a little harder at tact. I guess when you're perfect like me, it's hard not to be critical on occasion.

I do post photos and I do appreciate C&C as long is not the "don't quit your dayjob" variety. One of the great things about POTN is the help most folks are willing to offer. :):):)

[SuzyView]

I think POTN is a great community of photographers. I don't know if you saw that other thread, Jim, but it got a little heated.

[JimAskew]

I think POTN is a great community of photographers. I don't know if you saw that other thread, Jim, but it got a little heated.

Suzie, I read the entire thread just now...very, very interesting ;) I'm not sure what to make of it? I didn't find the comments derogatory at the beginning but it did evolve into a heated discussion quickly. Overall I think the photos were flat and boring...it just wasn't what I would expect to see for wedding photography.

[Belmondo]

There seems to be an edginess to many of the wedding photography discussions that borders on ugliness, and I'm at a loss to explain it. I'm from the old school that believes there are two ways to say everything; honesty does not have to be brutal.

For some reason, there seems to be an occasional need among our wedding crowd to be exceedingly blunt, and then indignant when the recipients of their 'candor' react badly. I've seen this pattern repeated over and over, and it's sad.

Part of it can be attributed to the fact that we're communicating in a written medium, and we don't all possess the same abilities to convey a state of mind. Some of it might be manifestation of the competitive side of human nature, and it might just be jealousy in some cases.

It's unfortunate, but that just seems to be the nature of things in the wedding community more so than just about any other discipline represented here on POTN.

[MDJAK]

No apology necessary





kinda..

Yeah, I disagree. You didn't wish me a happy birthday, you rat. But I understand completely. You were busy looking for the matching sock to your left and right one, and then I heard a hobo in a stock car was last seen dangling your new tripod out the door as you tried to recover same. :p

[JimAskew]

... I'm from the old school that believes there are two ways to say everything; honesty does not have to be brutal. ...

This is so very true, Tom. Constructive criticism is a good thing and it should be accompanied with suggestions for improvements if appropriate. In the course of the past three years I feel that my photography skills have advanced significantly based in large part to the comments and criticisms I have received here on my work as well as reviewing the C&C on other photos posted in the forums.

On the flip side...I have learned to disregard/ignore some comments as being mean spirited and irrelevant. I agree with you that some folks just feel they need to use a hammer to make a point...go figure!

[Belmondo]

Yeah, I disagree. You didn't wish me a happy birthday, you rat. But I understand completely. You were busy looking for the matching sock to your left and right one, and then I heard a hobo in a stock car was last seen dangling your new tripod out the door as you tried to recover same. :p

Sorry about the birthday. I guess you got a Gulfstream jet or something to go with all your other new toys.

This is so very true, Tom. Constructive criticism is a good thing and it should be accompanied with suggestions for improvements if appropriate. In the course of the past three years I feel that my photography skills have advanced significantly based in large part to the comments and criticisms I have received here on my work as well as reviewing the C&C on other photos posted in the forums.

On the flip side...I have learned to disregard/ignore some comments as being mean spirited and irrelevant. I agree with you that some folks just feel they need to use a hammer to make a point...go figure!

I also have benefited from my years at POTN. My photography has not improved, but I better understand what makes it so bad.

[SuzyView]

Oh, Tom. I am with you. ;) I've been buying great gear and still feeling totally inadequate, which does explain Mark's limitations, too. ;) I love you, Mark, you know that. :) I hope you got those B&H cards handy. I love that place. See my new avatar? Right in front of counter 63, I think.

I think the OP of that thread edited some of his original comments, Jim. So, you might not see the whole picture. I wonder about people who do that. I only edit terrible typos. Everyone already knows I can hardly see what I'm reading these days so they forgive my half reading the threads. But I never edit what I have written, just feel stupider. :)

[kja]

Grace - love Cody's room!

Hi, All! I've sucked at keeping up on the boards lately - not sure why...millions of things going on in life and in my head, I guess ;)

Not surprised to see some chat about "that" thread LOL I saw it yesterday and decided that nothing good could come of adding my two cents!

Hope you are all having a great 2008 so far and that you'll be around in here to chat!

[SuzyView]

Kristin, you have a life, that's really much more interesting than what happens here. Since I've been on more lately, I've spent a lot more money. It's awful. I now have so much gear, I had to give some away and buy new bags. I am now sporting something ridiculous like 40 GB of memory cards on me when I shoot, like I ever fill 1 4 gb card! So, being on here has it's share of negatives, but we did miss you. Welcome home.

[kja]

LOL I know what you mean about more gear! But I think I'm pretty much done bar maybe a battery pack something for my 580s...haven't started to research that yet, but think I do want one...oh, and I do think I would like a teensy bit more memory...

Thanks for the welcome back!

[JimAskew]

... I also have benefited from my years at POTN. My photography has not improved, but I better understand what makes it so bad.

Somehow I doubt that :D And, of course, you were starting lightyears ahead of me. :) This forum has been just super to me...I'll bet I have at least a gig of HD starage to tips and lessons I have captured from here :)

[JimAskew]

... I only edit terrible typos. :)

Me too...I was born with "fat fingers" and often go back to fix major embarassments...I never, never change the context however.

[JimAskew]

[quote=kja;4684482] ... Not surprised to see some chat about "that" thread LOL I saw it yesterday and decided that nothing good could come of adding my two cents!quote]

Hi...good to hear from another familar WF regular...we are slowly getting back together :-)

Good advice on the reference thread...nothing left to be said by the time I found that thread...I left it alone as well.

[Belmondo]

Hi...good to hear from another familar WF regular...we are slowly getting back together :-)

Good advice on the reference thread...nothing left to be said by the time I found that thread...I left it alone as well.

Speaking strictly for myself, and in no official capacity at all, I am happy to see some of the old familiar names when they show up.

The 'thread' you're discussing seems to have run its course. It's interesting reading, though; there is certainly something of value to be learned there. Unfortunately it has nothing to do with wedding photography.

[SuzyView]

Just got back home from having my few moments with Jon at the A&S in Dulles. He was testing his new 300 f4. I'm so jealous, except I was testing out the 40D, but no 6.5 frames, nothing moving there. :(

I always enjoy meeting POTN members because I learn so much. Jon is a wealth of information, he is totally cool and has so much gear, I was afraid he'd drop a few things out of his bag, like his 5D. He's so familiar with all the cameras and setting and specs. I'm always amazed. The WF members are all so talented and have a lot to offer, so well chosen criticism is worthwhile here. I've really benefited from the advice people give me and the exposure to new methods and strategies. I hope that continues here.

And we missed you, Jim. Have fun at the show!

[JimAskew]

... And we missed you, Jim. Have fun at the show!

Hi Suzie,

Just got back from the Kennedy Center...I took Elaine there to see My Fair Lady as part of her Christmas. We went with our best friends, John & Nancy. After the show we went to JR Stckkyards for a steak dinner :)

The show was just awesome! Three hours went by in no time! I had forgotten how many great songs are in that musical...I'll be humming them all weekend long :)

Jon, I would love to see the new lens in action...when I get my 5D and 17-40MM f/4 EF L in March let's setup a NOVA POTN meet. It has been a while since we all got together.

[kja]

Hey,Jim! Nice to see you again.

Things are crazy here at the moment and sometimes if this thread isn't close to the top I forget about it...gotta keep checkin in. And gotta think about posting some more stuff, I guess...sometimes it just fades away and that doesn't encourage me to post more LOL I love feedback - it's how I learn!

[SuzyView]

Know what you mean, Kristin.

Jim, I love that musical. I was saying "Move your blummin @##!" the other day for some reason. Quotes and songs from that show often come into everyday life for me. ;) Glad you and Elaine had a good time. Too bad you can't take pictures inside the theater.

[JimAskew]

Know what you mean, Kristin.

Jim, I love that musical. I was saying "Move your blummin @##!" the other day for some reason. Quotes and songs from that show often come into everyday life for me. ;) Glad you and Elaine had a good time. Too bad you can't take pictures inside the theater.

I saw several folks with P&S in the lobby and one fellow with a Nikon and a backpack full of gear. Inside the Opera House I saw one couple shooting the family before the show started. Then the lights went down and the announcer came on and said "No photography or we will take your house away, your first born, etc, etc, etc).

I just wish they would licesne the use of non-flash photography. I would love to try my 135MM EF L and my 30D in that setting :) I would be willing to pay for the privilege.

[Belmondo]

I just wish they would licesne the use of non-flash photography. I would love to try my 135MM EF L and my 30D in that setting :) I would be willing to pay for the privilege. The average photographer these days doesn't know how to turn the flash off.:lol:

Good morning everyone. It's garage cleaning day. My goal is to make room for the BMW which is sitting under a cover in the driveway. I want to be able to put my truck there instead.

Pray for me.

[SuzyView]

No need to pray, just get a big dumpster. :)

While I was hanging out with Jon and the Air & Space Museum, my husband took all the cardboard boxes (and I mean about 50 large ones) from Christmas and collapsed them and took them all to the dump. It only took him 4 hours. ;) And he made room for more stuff I ordered. :)

[Maureen Souza]

I feel soooooo out of things here. Sorry for my long absence but life (work) sometimes gets in my way).

Suzie.... I know your work is NOT inadequate so keeping enjoying all your new gear :)

Grace, love Cody's room. So Cute!

Chief, so this is where you like to hang out...with all the good looking chickadees! ;)

[Belmondo]

Chief, so this is where you like to hang out...with all the good looking chickadees! ;)And now, add another one. (Does Skip read this? :shock:)

[kja]

Morning, All! Bel - how did the garage cleaning go? I can't even imaging trying to clean ours LOL

Not much on the agenda today - just the stuff of every day life.

[Belmondo]

Morning, All! Bel - how did the garage cleaning go? I can't even imaging trying to clean ours LOL

Not much on the agenda today - just the stuff of every day life.I'm on break right now. It's mind-numbing to see how much junk we've accumulated over the past 46 years.:o:o:o

[SuzyView]

I've been my current home for 7 years and I think I have 20 years of stuff. How does that happen?

[kja]

LOL - I'm with you Suzy! We acquire an amazing amount of junk...which is doubly amazing considering there really is no shopping where we live!

[Belmondo]

I've been my current home for 7 years and I think I have 20 years of stuff. How does that happen?We've always had a lot of 'junk', but the problem really became acute last July. My wife's aunt in New York passed away, and we inherited all her furniture. We moved almost all of it out here even though our house was already overly full. All the overflow ended up in the garage, and that just compounded our difficulties out there. Add to that all the brother-in-law's things we're storing for him out there plus all the detritus of many years of conspicuous consumption.

I'm encouraged, though. Lois (wife) says we have to get rid of it all. Or course that doesn't mean everything literally, but a lot of it.

Pray for me.

[SuzyView]

I have 2 computers, 4 printers, and other electronics outside that I don't want to just throw out, especially have to take the hard drives out of the computers first, etc. So, that takes up room. I have 7 bikes out there, 4 don't get used much, but have to be ready to go at any time. But no furniture. You win on that one, Tom. I have so many boxes of beanie babies, etc. Kids.

[kja]

I am so happy to hear we aren't the only ones with this problem!!

[SuzyView]

I just found out I have some work to do in May. Very excited. Glad I got the Think Tank for the trip.

[Belmondo]

I have 2 computers, 4 printers, and other electronics outside that I don't want to just throw out, especially have to take the hard drives out of the computers first, etc. So, that takes up room. I have 7 bikes out there, 4 don't get used much, but have to be ready to go at any time. But no furniture. You win on that one, Tom. I have so many boxes of beanie babies, etc. Kids.

I have 5 PCs out there plus a couple laptops and two monitors. We have 4 bicycles. There are three of us, and one of us doesn't ride at all. It's a sickness, I'm tellin' ya'.:o:o

[SuzyView]

I keep giving away stuff, but get more. Right now I have an office I don't use because it's an office and I live in the family room-kitchen. So, I have 4 interneted computers in the family room right now, I use all 4 of them. Even my 8 year old has a laptop. Sickness, it is.

[kja]

What work have you got, Suzy? And what do you think of your ThinkTank? I'm still wandering around the wilderness on bags with just not quite the right ones for everything yet!

[SuzyView]

I am hoping I get a response from the national MathCounts people. I've been a volunteer to work with the pros they hire to capture the teams and candids. This will be my 3rd year.

[kja]

Wow, cool opportunity!

[SuzyView]

Last year I stayed with a friend. She took me all over. It was great. This time I have friends there I will probably visit, or meet up with, but I will be at the hotel.

[kja]

Where is it at? Same place every year?

[SuzyView]

No. Last year it was in Ft. Worth and this year in Denver. I attended the first time in DC, about 30 miles from my house, so that wasn't bad. The Denver one will be far for me, but my husband is from there so we have friends I can stay with if I want to.

[SuzyView]

Oh, you asked about the Think Tank. I love the bag. It holds almost half my gear, allowing me to have the Adventure 9 bag for my laptop and 5D with 24-70 attached. That is my most needed set up so I have it in the Adventure 9 in case I have to put the bigger bag down below in the plane. It happened when I went to the Albany meet and the plane was one that only fit a few people. The fact that I can have a nice carry on that is large enough to fit 2 camera bodies and 4 lenses and 2 flashes is well worth the $350 I paid for it, and it is so well built, you can't believe it. Also, there are a lot of partitions that come with it so you can do any configuration you need.

[JimAskew]

Oh, you asked about the Think Tank. I love the bag. It holds almost half my gear, allowing me to have the Adventure 9 bag for my laptop and 5D with 24-70 attached. That is my most needed set up so I have it in the Adventure 9 in case I have to put the bigger bag down below in the plane. It happened when I went to the Albany meet and the plane was one that only fit a few people. The fact that I can have a nice carry on that is large enough to fit 2 camera bodies and 4 lenses and 2 flashes is well worth the $350 I paid for it, and it is so well built, you can't believe it. Also, there are a lot of partitions that come with it so you can do any configuration you need.

Suzie,

Do you use the Think Tank for A/L flights only? Or do you use it on location as well? I am looking for the "perfect" bag to hold 2 bodies, 4 lenses, and 2 flash units.

I like the idea that the Think Tank has wheels.

[SuzyView]

It looks like luggage. But it's not the easiest to get the gear in and out, everything is snug. You should PM Maureen. She got a Pelican hard case for her gear when she goes shooting and it is big and carries everything and has wheels. I think she got the one with the dividers.

[kja]

Denver - I love Denver :)

Thanks for the info on the ThinkTank.

[LeesaB]

ahh to the rescue again, might I be superwoman?

Suzy, nice new avatar....

How is everyone doing?

Where's Belmondo at? he should be saving his thread :-)

[kja]

LOL, Lisa! How's your day?

[Maureen Souza]

It looks like luggage. But it's not the easiest to get the gear in and out, everything is snug. You should PM Maureen. She got a Pelican hard case for her gear when she goes shooting and it is big and carries everything and has wheels. I think she got the one with the dividers.
Yup... I have the Pelican 1510 with dividers and a storage bag screwed to the inside lid. It is allowed as a carry-on as well.

[JimAskew]

Yup... I have the Pelican 1510 with dividers and a storage bag screwed to the inside lid. It is allowed as a carry-on as well.

Maureen,

Good Morning :-)

How much gear can you fit into the Pelican 1510? At a typical wedding...group event I have two bodies, 4-5 lenses, and 2 flash units. I'm looking for something with wheels...and carry on is a big plus :)

[Kathy H]

Anyone ever come here anymore?

[Belmondo]

Anyone ever come here anymore?Just you.

How're things going?

[Kathy H]

Oh wow! That was fast! Were you just waiting for me? LOL

[Kathy H]

Things are going great!

I was just going to post a sample of a card I am making for senior portrait clients and I opened this chat up instead of the one in people!

I goofed, but Hi! How are you?

[sapearl]

Well hello there good people - just saw this pop up :D

[Kathy H]

Hello Stu!
Nice to see you again.
How is everything going for you?
I have been busy busy busy and don't get in here much at all.

[LeesaB]

Well hello there good people - just saw this pop up :D

Hey Stu...

Did you get snowed in? It's unreal here. But getting better.

[sapearl]

Hello there young lady :D - yup we got hammered pretty well yesterday. I did my errands in the morning and by noon the roads reminded me of driving I-90 to Buffalo in a blizzard!

Hey Stu...

Did you get snowed in? It's unreal here. But getting better.

[LeesaB]

Omgosh, a few years ago, I was up in Buffalo doing some work, I was at a mall, and they actually closed it down, told us, "we could not leave" I thought...SHOOT, I'm from Ohio,I've seen snow, so I left the mall for my hotel about 20 minutes away. 4 HOURS later I finally got there, I've NEVER seen so much snow fall so fast. They actually closed that outerbelt with people on it for 36 hours, I had to stay over an extra day because there was no way to get out.

I had pics, but there are long put away now.

[sapearl]

Yeah, Buffalo is something else. Back in '79 we came through there on the way home from our honeymoon. We were some of the last cars to come through before they closed the NY Thruway. We did 3 miles in 6 hours. Poor Buffalo had been hit with 36 inches of snow in 24 hours.

It took a while for them to plow our streets, and then after our plow left I still had to go out with the snow blower. We even received automated calls from the police department saying there was a snow ban in effect and all cars had to be off the streets. I shot this picture about 9 A.M. today. I was amazed how pretty it was compared to yesterday afternoon.

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[LeesaB]

yep, that looks about right. It' was crazy. I'm hoping this is the last of it.

[SuzyView]

Nice shot!

Hi everyone!

When I saw this was up, I was shocked. I thought people forgot about it. I'm glad to see you are all well. I've got a stomach bug so I'm at home. Hope everyone else is doing better.

[LeesaB]

Hey Suzy.

I think Kathy H revived it, not sure. It'd be nice to see a few more people pop in before it sinks to page 12 again. :-)

[SuzyView]

I've been posting just a few a day recently. Not much going on here except for when the forum was down. That was a scare for me. :)

I can't believe how many people are asking the same questions over again without searching. I think I counted 3-4 threads a day asking which 70-200 was best. I think the moderators are stopping that recently. Threads get closed and links put up.

[sapearl]

Thank you Suzy - great hearing from you!:D Although really sorry to hear about the bug you have....... not a lot of fun. By wife had something for a couple of weeks but seems to be much better now. Drink a lot of ginger ale - that always seems to help; must be the curative properties of the ginger. Homemade chicken soup is always good too ;).

Nice shot!

Hi everyone!

When I saw this was up, I was shocked. I thought people forgot about it. I'm glad to see you are all well. I've got a stomach bug so I'm at home. Hope everyone else is doing better.

[LeesaB]

I come here to search before I search the web. I think new people have no concept of searching and older people just like to talk. LOL and are lazy to not want to search, but want answers NOW, kinda like fast food. Gotta have it NOW and hot!

[SuzyView]

I guess I'm guilty of this sometimes, but I now know I read the topic somewhere, so I search hard. Just recently, I couldn't find the thread, so I PM poor Leo, I think. He had it for me in about a minute. And I did search first. But sometimes, when the topic is so obviously over-done, people don't answer anymore.

BTW, since reading this thread again, I think I'm ordering the Pelican that Maureen has. I need another bag to take stuff to Denver and my son and I can't carry everything in the bags I have. I also have weddings to do and the Pelican looks like a good purchase.

[LeesaB]

I'm getting a crumpler bag. Can't wait, for when I go to NY.

I'm getting a few other things also....Yippee!!!

[sapearl]

Sounds like pretty cool stuff Lisa - myself, I think I'm "bagged" out for a while..... have collected too many over the years...:rolleyes:

I'm getting a crumpler bag. Can't wait, for when I go to NY.

I'm getting a few other things also....Yippee!!!

[LeesaB]

Well, Stu....maybe it's time to unload and sell a few things on the forum or Ebay.