HS Sports and time management...

[namasste]

Guess this is a multi part question(s) really. This year has been my first entry into sports photography and I am loving it. After speaking with the HS principal and AD, I was given permission to shoot some soccer late in the season which led to permission to shoot football as well. Needless to say, I was excited about having this opportunity and now I want to make the most of it. I am not a full time photog (nor intend to be unless some strange twist of events leads me there). That said, I wondered if it is acceptable that I only shoot some games since it's not feasible to be at all of them (particularly away games). I also wondered how to know when I should begin selling my work (I have used this year as a chance to do it gratis in exchange for the experience and learning opportunity). Anybody have thoughts on how to turn this thing up a notch?

One thought I had was to shoot games "by appointment". For things like little league and rec sports, the local photogs do the whole picture day thing which I have no interest in per se but no one does action work. I was thinking that I could arrange to shoot games upon request and work through the coaches and league (the league (baseball) is open to this). My thought would be to guarantee at least two shots of each player for any game I shoot and provide these to the coach on a cd(s) for a flat fee. The more parents on the team that want a copy, the cheaper/parent it becomes. This would give me a minimum amount /shoot so I wouldn't be left hoping someone goes to my site and buys. It would also be cheaper for the parents given that they get effectively unlimited copies of their son/daughter playing since it's on cd. They also get the rest of the team as a bonus. Does this sound like a good idea or insane?

[Joe300]

namasste,
You got a good start there... I am in the process of talking to the HS staff also about doing sports events for them... I have started photographing the youth sports programs here in my area LL, peewee footbal, soccer,etc... I do the T&I stuff which brings me in $$ from that, I also go to games when they play and do action shots and then post all my photo web site.
then pass out a lot of bussiness cards to the site and let parents and kids look and buy from there...
So my T&I contact birngs in the $$ and the action shots brings in just a little more...
hope this helps,
Joe

[johndevane]

Welp, there ya go...

Since Scott first posted this question in 2007, I think we all know by now that his original idea, and most others that he has had since then are all insane.

[Joe300]

LOL..LMAO....I hope he has got some work by now.... didnt catch that date on the post...
and I wasted all that time typing to this post....

where is he now to post an update to what happened...??

Can the person running this forum dump old post after a time and date... ..later.
Joe

[Dan-o]

Just give it up Scott you noob, you will never amount to anything. :lol:

[Joe300]

Beam me Scotty over 4000 post.? we should be asking you questions... LOL
did that HS gig ever go well....lol

[Sledhed]

Just give it up Scott you noob, you will never amount to anything. :lol:

Ain't that the truth!

There's a reason the local togs are doing the T&I but no action, the money is in T&I, not action. You want little snot nose Johnny's mother standing in line with a check made out to Scott Evans, even though she has yet to see the picture. With action shots where you send them to a website, most will never look. Some may look and some may buy, but most will never get around to looking at the site. If you want to make money with youth sports photography, shoot T&I. I'm sure Mr. Janes will tell you the same thing.

BTW, thanks for returning my call the other day. :rolleyes: I was trying to give you some work!

[SPORTshot]

LMAO....this is funny stuff.

Sledhed, I'll take the work since Scott is tooooooo busy these days,lol.

Hey Scott, where are those dance instructor pictures you promised a few months ago ?

[Big K]

See Scott, all you have to do is wait 25 months and you will get a response. :-)

[Sledhed]

Dang, I should have looked at the date! It kind of surprised me Scott was even asking the question.

[Dan-o]

I thought you were just playing along Chris! :lol:

[SPORTshot]

Dang, I should have looked at the date! It kind of surprised me Scott was even asking the question.


LOL, I thought you were just playing along:lol:


This thread........bw!

[Joe300]

LOL, I thought you were just playing along:lol:


This thread........bw!

Does it come in paperback.all text..LOL should we add photos.:lol:
lighting setup diagrams for T&I too...:D OP you want the cover shot.?:rolleyes:

[johndevane]

I called him, I texted him, he's nowhere. He's hiding cause my Steelers are about to whip his Brownies on Thursday night football... Hello, Scott?

[johndevane]

To Scott's wife:

If he's gone, call me. I like trees too.

[namasste]

Ain't that the truth!

There's a reason the local togs are doing the T&I but no action, the money is in T&I, not action. You want little snot nose Johnny's mother standing in line with a check made out to Scott Evans, even though she has yet to see the picture. With action shots where you send them to a website, most will never look. Some may look and some may buy, but most will never get around to looking at the site. If you want to make money with youth sports photography, shoot T&I. I'm sure Mr. Janes will tell you the same thing.

BTW, thanks for returning my call the other day. :rolleyes: I was trying to give you some work!
Chris, I am really sorry if I didn't. Devane will attest to this, I am having some weird stuff going on with my phone and have missed a bunch of calls lately. Wow, I actually feel bad, thanks Chris! :p

[namasste]

You guys are all a bunch of tools. I only hang out here because it makes me feel better about myself! :lol: I know I have more hair then Munson, a better bod than Proctor , and don;t get me started on brain power over Devane. Sheesh, you fools are lucky to have me! :lol:

Joe, thanks for responding to my post. 25 months or not, it means a lot. I've gotten a little work here and there so I guess it all worked out in the end.

Chris and John, I'll give both of you knuckleheads a shout tomorrow.

Halfheartedly..go Browns?

[johndevane]

Where's your wife?

[Dan-o]

John I hate to break it to you but the Steelers lost to the hapless Raiders last weekend. :p

[johndevane]

Dan...Do you have a dog in this race? Let me talk s**t while I can.

[Dan-o]

I just root for the Los Angeles team and I'm pretty sure we have not lost yet this season.

[johndevane]

There hasn't been a team in LA since we went to high school together. :)

[johndevane]

Danny got a PM

[Dan-o]

Since the Rams left because the Raiders don't count. :)

[SPORTshot]

To Scott's wife:

If he's gone, call me. I like trees too.


LOL......man, that's just wrong !:lol:

GO DAWGS.....WOOF WOOF !!!!!

[johndevane]

Holy hell. The Browns are awesome.

[Sledhed]

Where's your wife?

She's been down at the bar with me.

[Sledhed]

The Bears suck!

[namasste]

The Bears suck!
You suck! Tell her to be quiet when she comes home.

[SPORTshot]

Man, Scott........rough crowd in here. lol