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Ikinaa
16th of August 2004 (Mon), 23:38
Soon (end of the year), I will buy myself a DSLR, just waiting what the photokina brings new.
So I become more and more interested in the technique involved.
There are TC1.4x and TC2.0x (or more?) for the DSLR you put between body and lens.
Is there something like a WC1.3 (wide converter) or WC1.6 for DSLRs or will there be one or is it optically possible?
So that a DSLR with a 1.3 or 1.6 crop factor will come down to a 35mm equivalent, like a full-frame?
The vignetting shouldn't make any problems, as most lenses were designed for 35mm?
Aylwin
16th of August 2004 (Mon), 23:51
Nope. No such things as wide converters. You just have to get a lens wide enough for your needs taking the crop factor into account.
hmhm
17th of August 2004 (Tue), 09:05
There are "wide-angle converters" available for video cameras and some point 'n' shoots. These typically "screw-on" like filters. I've heard of people using them on DSLR lenses, though I can't imagine the image quality is very good.
But as already mentioned, there's nothing specifically included in the Canon DSLR product set for this purpose.
-harry
Ikinaa
17th of August 2004 (Tue), 23:18
There are "wide-angle converters" available for video cameras and some point 'n' shoots. These typically "screw-on" like filters. I've heard of people using them on DSLR lenses, though I can't imagine the image quality is very good.
But as already mentioned, there's nothing specifically included in the Canon DSLR product set for this purpose.
-harry
I got a WC for my G3, such a one may help on a DSLR when really needed.
Is there a technical reason why there isn't a WC for DSLR to screw between body and lens or isn't there simply the need of it?
Aylwin
18th of August 2004 (Wed), 00:21
Technically, it's possible. Some EF lenses use 58mm filters. If your WC is 58mm then you could simply screw it on just like a filter. While there are some good quality WCs out there, the image quality will no doubt suffer. Still, if you already own a WC then I guess there's no harm in trying. It might save you from having to buy a wider lense... at least for awhile.
CyberDyneSystems
18th of August 2004 (Wed), 11:22
Is there a technical reason why there isn't a WC for DSLR to screw between body and lens or isn't there simply the need of it?
Yes.. all you would get is a very large dark circle around the image that the lens itself creates..
A "wide converter" between the lens and camera can not make the image that the lens creates any wider than it is when it leaves the rear of the lens.. so a "wide converter" at the rear would simply make a huge vignette.
stuartf287
18th of August 2004 (Wed), 11:33
There was a post on this forum (or on dpreview) some time ago in which someone used a screw-in WA converter designed for a point-and-shoot on an EOS digital SLR. The results which were posted didn't look too bad. I'd think the main problem would be finding a WA converter of the correct size to screw into the front of a regular EF lens. The converters are probably small in order to fit on the lenses of the G-3 (or whatever), since those cameras have relatively small sensors and correspondingly small lenses. The size problem, along with quality degradation, seem to rule out this "solution" in most cases.
stuartf287
18th of August 2004 (Wed), 11:40
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=86714
The poster apparently used an Olympus WA converter with the 24-85 EF lens, showing that it may be possible to use such a converter with a regular EF lens. The question is whether the results are worth it. The converter apparently costs about $180 without step-down ring.
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