ships in harbour

[cmM]

http://www.cmuntean.net/images/aug14fm23b.jpg
taken on a morning with 17/40L lens, tripod, cable release, f/11, and about 1/120s shutter.
Converted to black and white, dakened a bit and increased the contrast, then added an "old photo" filter.
Does it attract anyone's attention? Please critique.

[steven]

I like it :D

Did the grainyness come from the increase in contrast or the old film filter?

[Belmondo]

Great shot.

Not to quibble, but as an old Navy man, I feel obliged to point out that those are boats.

[cmM]

I like it :D

Did the grainyness come from the increase in contrast or the old film filter?
Thank you.
The grain was "artificially implanted" there with the old photo filter.

Great shot.

Not to quibble, but as an old Navy man, I feel obliged to point out that those are boats.
Thank you for clearing that out for me, Tom.
What's the difference btwn boats and ships (sounds dumb, I know, but I've never been the sailor type of guy).

[Sailor Don]

Chris M,

As a recreational sailor, I truly appreciate your photo. They are (sail)boats and definitely not ships as "belmondo" correctly observed.

One general rule of thumb for determining "ship or boat" is that boats are found on ships, but not vice versa. If a vessel is large enough to have lifeboats, it can probably be called a ship. Maybe others can provide more detail.

With respect to the photo, the first thing that got my attention was the visible "grain" size. First impression was that it does not add to the photo. It appears as if moire patterns have been generated across the sky. My personal preferance is for sharp detail without induced artifacts like moire patterns. (The moire patterns could just be my monitor, but I think they are in the jpeg file.)

[Kenski]

oh my.... Who cares... ships boats... being in the Navy, we call our ship a boat all the time and ours is oh, 567 1/4" feet... who cares... :)

[Sailor Don]

Kenski,

I guess we don't need to distinguish between snapshots and photographs. Who cares? :D
Let's call it the Canon Digital Snapshot Forum. :D :D

But I would never say that Ansel Adams took great snapshots. No more than I would call the U.S.S. Lexington a boat.
http://users3.ev1.net/~sailord/Lex/

[cmM]

With respect to the photo, the first thing that got my attention was the visible "grain" size. First impression was that it does not add to the photo. It appears as if moire patterns have been generated across the sky. My personal preferance is for sharp detail without induced artifacts like moire patterns. (The moire patterns could just be my monitor, but I think they are in the jpeg file.)
Thanks for taking the time Don,
Generally, I agree with you, and preffer sharp, detailed picture. This one, though, if I left it its initial state, it would be a "snapshot". I added the extra contrast, the noise, and the other old photo characteristics to give it a touch of art, maybe grab more people's attention.
Here's a "before" picture, tell me which one you like better:
http://www.cmuntean.net/images/au14fm23.jpg

BTW, thanks for clarifying the ship vs. boat issue :wink:

[Sailor Don]

Chris,

I was hoping you would provide the original. Thank you for sharing it. It is a fine photograph, but is definitely improved by the cropping (portrait) you selected for your final version.

I agree that the crisp sharp details of the original give it a postcard quality (better than snapshot).

Maybe my perspective is compromised by my attachment to sailing. My desire is to see it "like it is" and savor every detail. The coarse grain treatment hides the standing rigging. The non-sailor probably doesn't care about standing rigging, nor would such knowledge increase his enjoyment of life, but to a sailor....
Perhaps I get too tied up in the details. ???

[Kenski]

Kenski,

I guess we don't need to distinguish between snapshots and photographs. Who cares? :D
Let's call it the Canon Digital Snapshot Forum. :D :D

But I would never say that Ansel Adams took great snapshots. No more than I would call the U.S.S. Lexington a boat.
http://users3.ev1.net/~sailord/Lex/


Why not call her a boat, I'm sure those that served aboard her called her a boat.... We refer to warships ever day as boats or ships... its just slang... Just like scuttlebut, head, forecastle.... But of course, your a sailor so you know this... ;)