VH1 Reality Series "The Shot"

[FlyingPhotog]

Anyone else happen to catch this series?

Typical competitive scenario:
- 10 wannabe fashion shooters divided into two "teams" of five.
- Each week, a different set up they have to shoot for an "agency."
- One team wins each week and is safe..The other team loses and one member of the losing team gets booted.

At the end, the overall winner gets $100,000, a spread in MarieClaire and gets to shoot an entire campaign for Victoria's Secret.

The "brutally honest host" is a working fashion shooter (who's name escapes me...), another judge is the fashion editor for MarieClaire and the third is a (I guess) well known H/MUA.

Next episode has them in-studio working with kids and animals so it should be good comedy.

[ThePolster]

I watched it. Thought the host was an a**hole. I doubt I'll watch again.

[Ronald S. Jr.]

The "brutally honest host" is a working fashion shooter (who's name escapes me...)

Russel James.


I liked it ok. Better than sitting around doing nothing. Some Canon eye candy. Yes, it's all Canon (thus far).

[Ultra]

I caught, it was somewhat interesting but I want to hear more detail talk, F-stop, ISO, reason for lighting setup, reflectors etc etc...

What I found funny is how Marissa got sick but on ANTM they teach them they have to deal with those type of things to appease the client and photog.

[the_incubus]

I caught, it was somewhat interesting but I want to hear more detail talk, F-stop, ISO, reason for lighting setup, reflectors etc etc...

i dont think we are gonna get that because most people have no idea what those terms are. If they make the show with alot of technical stuff, the common person wont watch it.

[rhys]

It looked strange. The photographers looked very much as though their wardrobes had been chosen for them to be as wild as possible. I'm surprised there was no guy in fishnets and a dress, Now that'd guarantee his entry to at least the 3rd round regardless of photo quality!

[Cybnew]

I dont see myself becoming to much of a fan of this show. I still prefer ANTM..though we will see.

[FlyingPhotog]

I dont see myself becoming to much of a fan of this show. I still prefer ANTM..though we will see.

Ignorance Alert: Umm, what's ANTM? :oops:

[jpvaz]

Ignorance Alert: Umm, what's ANTM? :oops:

Google is you're friend :D:D ANTM = America's Next Top Model

[hojita]

I watched it...I tried my hardest to fall in love with it, but just found it so-so.

I'll keep watching anyway. :D

[Longwatcher]

I don't watch a lot of these shows because they usually come on when I am busy editing pictures. Plus the few times I watched ANTM my thoughts were along the lines of; beautiful models and scenery, but how often do I get that. I usually get the new model with few skills in a place that only has a few really photogenic spots. And then it is usually only the model and I and occasionally an escort and MUA. On rare occasions I have an assistant, who doesn't know very much about photography.

On the rare occasions I have had trained models, with MUA/stylist and something approaching an actual crew, it was a whole lot easier to get good pictures. What they should do on "the Shot" is to give each photographer one brand new aspiring model and tell them to take great shots in and around an ordinary middle class home with no other help. Now that is a challenge.

[rhys]

I think "the shot" is interesting. I suspect that it goes way over the top of most people's heads though.

What I like is that it gives me ideas for different interpretations.

[BenJammin]

Definite Canon Eye Candy. I thought it was a cool show. The Host does seem like a douche though.

[FlyingPhotog]

Google is you're friend :D:D ANTM = America's Next Top Model

Really stressed you to type four words eh? Sorry, next time I won't ask... :confused:

[JWright]

More reality TV... A lot of these shows start out with potential, until the whining, back-biting and arrogance appears. Unfortunately, with the writers strike, this what we have to look forward to. Why is it, as time passes, we have more and more TV channels and less and less good programming?

[BillsBayou]

Really stressed you to type four words eh? Sorry, next time I won't ask... :confused:

WIBAMU Looks like you took offense. IMHO it wasn't meant to be offensive. It's not like someone could tell you to RTFM or a FAQ because there isn't one. BTW, abbreviations actually do take the stress out of typing out the words. IRL we'd just say it out loud, LOL. TTFN

[jpvaz]

Really stressed you to type four words eh? Sorry, next time I won't ask... :confused:

WOW!!! Chill out!!!

Looks like you're the one stressed out. I've also never seen those inicials before (1st is AMERICA'S Next Top Model not PORTUGAL'S Next Top Model and 2nd we don't get US tv channels here or at least not the same ones you do) and when i find something that i don't understand i google it to try and find a answer by myself... but it seems i'm the ignorant one for doing that and trying 2 help.

In relation about the Really stressed you to type four words eh? well... i guess it stressed me just about the same as it would strees you to type WWW.GOOGLE.COM (http://WWW.GOOGLE.COM) and search it by you're self.

Have a nice day sir. :cool:

[XTremeSLR]

Saw the show, it's entertaining. The chick with the weird name that got booted off was asking during her shoot where's the "zoom" on the prime lens she was using. That was funny.

[the_incubus]

More reality TV... A lot of these shows start out with potential, until the whining, back-biting and arrogance appears. Unfortunately, with the writers strike, this what we have to look forward to. Why is it, as time passes, we have more and more TV channels and less and less good programming?

i guess its this drama crap that rakes in the money. People are drawn to conflicts and controversy.

[Ronald S. Jr.]

People like to see other people having problems. It's a psychological thing. Subconsciously, they like to see that other people are having a harder time than they are.

Goes along with watching NASCAR. No one (sane) enjoys it simply to watch them take left turns all day. At least I couldn't understand enjoying that.

[the_incubus]

People like to see other people having problems. It's a psychological thing. Subconsciously, they like to see that other people are having a harder time than they are.

Goes along with watching NASCAR. No one (sane) enjoys it simply to watch them take left turns all day. At least I couldn't understand enjoying that.

yuuup.

[FlyingPhotog]

People like to see other people having problems. It's a psychological thing. Subconsciously, they like to see that other people are having a harder time than they are.

Goes along with watching NASCAR. No one (sane) enjoys it simply to watch them take left turns all day. At least I couldn't understand enjoying that.

It helps greatly if you're being paid to be there:

http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/scenes_from_the_road

[thekid24]

given the chance to be on a show like that noone here would do it?

Talk about great publicity.

[Ronald S. Jr.]

I wouldn't do it. I can't stand someone taking a picture of me, or anyone staring at me. No way I'd want millions watching me. :shock:

[thekid24]

I wouldn't do it. I can't stand someone taking a picture of me, or anyone staring at me. No way I'd want millions watching me. :shock:
of course you wouldnt

[Ronald S. Jr.]

Wait a minute...which of those words was emphasized!?! :lol:

[thekid24]

Wait a minute...which of those words was emphasized!?! :lol:
lol

[Lord_Malone]

The chick with the weird name that got booted off was asking during her shoot where's the "zoom" on the prime lens she was using. That was funny.

Yeah, she was using the 85L and was like "I can't zoom... it's too close!" And the other chick was like "it's a fixed lens." LOL what a maroon. :lol:

given the chance to be on a show like that noone here would do it?

Talk about great publicity.

Hell yeah I'd do it!

[Noel_]

Piper out! kapow!

[Anke]

Piper out! kapow!

Thanks for spoiling!!!

[Noel_]

Thanks for spoiling!!!

Ehhh, you're checking this thread after the ep aired, what did you expect ? Marie is next.

[Anke]

Ehhh, you're checking this thread after the ep aired, what did you expect ? Marie is next.


Some of are busy when the episode airs and have to watch it later, this thread was not meant for spoilers!!

[EnronRocks]

I really like the show, but I agree with Ultra. I herd one term, and that was shutter. Thats about it. I also hate how he refers to it as "film" on the shoots they go to do, and it is clearly digital (I read Digital) on the strap of the camera in the Rock Climbing episode.

I did like the episode where they got to use the 90 cameras to take a 180 degree pictures, that was pretty nifty.

[mknawabi]

I am so glad she finally got eliminated!

^thats me trying to be as vague as possible not to spoil it for anyone.

[Anke]

I am so glad she finally got eliminated!

^thats me trying to be as vague as possible not to spoil it for anyone.

Too late :(

[Mum2J&M]

Saw the show, it's entertaining. The chick with the weird name that got booted off was asking during her shoot where's the "zoom" on the prime lens she was using. That was funny.

Yeah, real funny. I certainly hope there is at least one female photographer on the show with some brains. I haven't watched it. Someone please advise... :evil:

[cosworth]

The only reality show I watch is Formula 1. However, the laughs that this show could give me might sway me. I'll pvr it and see if I can pay attention.

[Noel_]

Found some of Piper's work/sites:

http://www.pipercarter.com/
http://www.myspace.com/pipercarter
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pipercarter/

[Monito]

Found some of Piper's work/sites: http://www.pipercarter.com/

It's not exactly inspiring stuff. Shadows out of control, bored models, dull poses, no control over color balance. And yet she has a respectable client list. Go figure.

[ironchef31]

VH1 won't stream the episodes outside of US.

I've managed to download episode 2 and watched episode 3 when I was in Seattle on the weekend. Don't know how I can get the next shows. Anyone have any ideas where I can keep up with it?

[Monito]

The VH-1 video links are broken, so I still have not seen the show.

Russell James (host):
http://russelljames.com Competent but uninspired.

Dean Zulich seems to have the most imagination and greatest competence:
http://www.deanzulich.com

Jason Clevering:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=268647479 He has friends and family connections!
http://www.jasonclevering.com/ Just a splash page
http://www.thewonderfulgroup.com/ Aren't we great
... and no photos except one splash. But he looks like an artist ...

Robin Perine:
http://www.robinperine.com/
Has potential and some sense of posing, but depends on subjects with shock-value. Lighting is out of control with almost all shots washed out.

Airic Lewis:
http://airiclewisphotography.com/
A flair for posing and not afraid to take risks with portraits, but lighting is out of control.

John, the wedding photographer, a bit too generic clues for my search skills. Sorry.

Maria Carmel:
http://www.imakefun.blogspot.com/ Blog
http://www.modelmayhem.com/member.php?id=64313
Also good potential, sophisticated look, needs to stretch a bit.

Ivan Paric has imagination. Needs more portfolio and had bad lighting on the fireman.
http://www.ivanparic.com

[SOT]

New Title: A bunch of people that don't know how to take photographs compete for airtime while acting like idiots.

[EnronRocks]

I hate all their website, mainly because every single one has way too much flash. Oh well.

If you guys miss a TV show or something, they are apparently on Stage6 on the DivX website, I think it is http://stage6.divx.com/The-Shot or something like that.

[Lord_Malone]

Those yahoos do not understand the "TEAM" concept at all. That's what kills me. That would be something I'd establish upfront above all else.

T = Together
E = Everyone
A = Achieves
M = More

There's no "I" in team. And they're all acting like a bunch of individuals. I know it's a competition, but they still have to pull together to make sh!t happen. Oh well. It wouldn't be a show without personality conflicts and drama. Give me a goddam shot at "The Shot".

[ironchef31]

Those yahoos do not understand the "TEAM" concept at all. That's what kills me. That would be something I'd establish upfront above all else.

T = Together
E = Everyone
A = Achieves
M = More

There's no "I" in team. And they're all acting like a bunch of individuals. I know it's a competition, but they still have to pull together to make sh!t happen. Oh well. It wouldn't be a show without personality conflicts and drama. Give me a goddam shot at "The Shot".

There is, however, a "ME" in TEAM

[FlyingPhotog]

Those yahoos do not understand the "TEAM" concept at all. That's what kills me. That would be something I'd establish upfront above all else.

T = Together
E = Everyone
A = Achieves
M = More

There's no "I" in team. And they're all acting like a bunch of individuals. I know it's a competition, but they still have to pull together to make sh!t happen. Oh well. It wouldn't be a show without personality conflicts and drama. Give me a goddam shot at "The Shot".

It's almost unfair though because in the real world (no MTv pun intended) you wouldn't have a "team" of photographers working like this.

Sure, you have a "creative team" (photog, LD, Grips, HMUA, Agency Rep, etc...) but the shoot ultimately comes down to one photog and one camera.

You don't make movies with multiple directors on the same set (Cohen Bros being the exception...)

[Lord_Malone]

It's almost unfair though because in the real world (no MTv pun intended) you wouldn't have a "team" of photographers working like this.

Sure, you have a "creative team" (photog, LD, Grips, HMUA, Agency Rep, etc...) but the shoot ultimately comes down to one photog and one camera.

You don't make movies with multiple directors on the same set (Cohen Bros being the exception...)

That might be true, but still they have to establish some sort of cohesion regardless of how things are done in the real world. This show is based on a team concept much like survivor. Sure, ultimately there's only going be one sole survivor at the end, but in order to get to that place it's better to establish a strong team first.

What I find most amusing is that almost nothing these photographers produce impresses these judges. Especially the bald gay guy whose speciality happens to be hair. :lol:

[thekid24]

That might be true, but still they have to establish some sort of cohesion regardless of how things are done in the real world. This show is based on a team concept much like survivor. Sure, ultimately there's only going be one sole survivor at the end, but in order to get to that place it's better to establish a strong team first.

What I find most amusing is that almost nothing these photographers produce impresses these judges. Especially the bald gay guy whose speciality happens to be hair. :lol:
I noticed that too, but maybe its just the way I handle criticism or maybe Im a sucker for punishment but Id rather impress someone that doesnt get easily impressed as apposed to someone that thinks everyshot (s)he sees is "amazing".

Ever evolving talent:p...thats what I see myself as.

Oh and did I mention you are wise Ed?

[milleker]

My vote is for John. I understand that if they get too much into specifics they can go over the heads of anyone watching from a non-photographic standpoint. I think I heard Dean and Ivan talking apertures in EP 1 or 2. The show makes it seem too much like the cameras are already set for them, but for each of these photographers, they know how to handle a camera - would I go on a show like this and expect to be creative but not be allowed to change around my settings? For exposure only? Maybe, but I'd feel really cheated.

VH1 has tons of highlights and other video snips after each episode. Throw in some technicals for us geeks.

[Tandem]

I noticed in the volleyball shots they were using different lenses. A few had the 85L while one had a 50L, one had a 135L or 200L, and another was using what I though was the 24-105L. Only one was using my weapon of choice for volleyball - the quick focusing 85 f/1.8. It didn't seem to make much difference in the outcome - at least it wasn't mentioned.

[Lord_Malone]

I noticed that too, but maybe its just the way I handle criticism or maybe Im a sucker for punishment but Id rather impress someone that doesnt get easily impressed as apposed to someone that thinks everyshot (s)he sees is "amazing".

Ever evolving talent:p...thats what I see myself as.

Oh and did I mention you are wise Ed?

Actually, I'm a big dummy. http://forum.e46fanatics.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Yeah, if I can impress the "not easily impressed" crowd then I know I'm really starting to set myself apart from the dime-a-dozen shooters out there. However, I'm far from that right now. :(

[Sam442]

Just started watching it, not a big fan so far, the contestants are just so annoying, as is the hosts ego,

also why do they keep saying 'film' you can clearly see what cameras they are and with the digital on the neck strap :confused: unless its to try and make themselves sound better to the general populous, "I shoot film I must be a pro"

I'll still watch it though :oops:

<edit> The film thing is getting reaaaaaally annoying now "I got back and looked at my film" no, no you did no. You looked at jpg's on a monitor.

[Noel_]

Digital negatives, please :P Any predictions on who's going next? I'm thinking Robin.

[milleker]

Yeah, Robin is next. She's just got a bad attitude. My money is on John. Or Jason. I think Jason is too concerned with helping everyone else to really take it - a admirable quality but one that usually goes unrewarded.

[Dinzdale40]

yea that guy with the bleached hair needs to wake up and think of himself...it's nice to show off how good you are at helping everyone...but he is gonna get sent home based on his shots if he doesn't concentrate on himself...the team thing is really just to organize the show, he needs to remember that he is still directly competing with his team mates...seems to me like he isn't very interested in winning...but is more interested in critiquing everything....

[milleker]

Robin needs to go. Watched this weeks' episode two days ago. Interesting Shoots. Can't believe most of them screwed up sensual on the food fight challenge. Also, the main shoot. What part of one close-up and one full body shot do you not understand?

And the setup. This is fashion, they don't want standard boring Senior Portrait lighting.

[Alexajlex]

I saw a bit of this and I also felt there was a lack of technical info.

On the volleyball shot the 85L is not the best choice (the 85 1.8 as mentioned is a better fit). The weight alone of the 85L at 2.25 lbs will wear you out after 30 minutes (it also makes the camera front heavy forcing your arm muscles to constantly fight gravity).

[milleker]

Any comments on episode six? Spoilers ahead.

Glad to see Robin go - though we see more of John's true nature, well, at least after editing. Can't fault Jason too much for not relaying the client's information to John because after all, John should have been the one pitching the idea if at all. John needs to step up and be team leader.

Seriously though, skin. How hard is that? The only one I liked was the pregnant belly and the heart, but I see that pose everywhere. Cliche' pregnancy shot.

And, was it me or did the dancer shots (that were hung in the gallery) look muddy and underexposed? I mean, were they not allowed to mess with the lighting at all? Not a good advertisement for that large format HP printer.

-John

[NickSimcheck]

I happend to bump into the show a few nights ago...

Am I the only person who finds all the "photographers" lacking in creativity and all of the models to be amature at best?

At least if the photog's knew what they were doing they might be able to get the models to relax. I dunno, I found the show overall just unrealistic and kinda boring.

Poo-poo-cah-ca.

[rhys]

Quite honestly, I started watching it to see if I could pick up some new ideas. I rapidly got bored with the show. I can't be bothered to watch it now. I get more of a kick out of watching the other show - Project Runway - because the people there are all so stereotypical.

[Tomi Hawk]

Why is it, as time passes, we have more and more TV channels and less and less good programming?
Wow .. that is so true lol .. and here I thought I was the only one who felt this way ..
Television simply sucks today .. period! Such a huge waste of time IMHO!
Reality television, soaps .. court TV .. (omg, there's a winner lol) game shows?
Christ on a Bike! Even the NFL which I can't wait for every year, is becoming a *fixed* entertainment. :(
I get depressed watching the news in itself! Whew .. Television has gone into the toilet ..

[the_incubus]

Quite honestly, I started watching it to see if I could pick up some new ideas. I rapidly got bored with the show. I can't be bothered to watch it now. I get more of a kick out of watching the other show - Project Runway - because the people there are all so stereotypical.

and dont forget the most important reason... Heidi Klum

Wow .. that is so true lol .. and here I thought I was the only one who felt this way ..
Television simply sucks today .. period! Such a huge waste of time IMHO!
Reality television, soaps .. court TV .. (omg, there's a winner lol) game shows?
Christ on a Bike! Even the NFL which I can't wait for every year, is becoming a *fixed* entertainment. :(
I get depressed watching the news in itself! Whew .. Television has gone into the toilet ..

TVs only saving grace is HBO.

[FlyingPhotog]

Christ on a Bike! Even the NFL which I can't wait for every year, is becoming a *fixed* entertainment. :(

Bad stretch at the Sports Book? ;)

[Tomi Hawk]

TVs only saving grace is HBO.
LOL .. and even at that .. *Inside The NFL* is a crock .. :evil:

Bad stretch at the Sports Book? ;)
Hahaha .. no .. I dont bet .. but all the *commentators* are so biased .. and the refs
have no clue .. My Raiders lost a game to The Colts last week on a last min holding call
that my girlfriend, who does'nt even know football, saw clear as a bell .. and asked me
why the ref who was standing right there, did'nt call it .. I said it's simple ..
Ever since 911, the NFL wants all the *good ole* teams to meet in the playoffs ..
they want the red, white, and blue of The Fakeriots .. (damn cheaters)
They want the good ole wholesome Manning types .. they want big money to control
what is shown, and not honesty .. afterall, that would be too good .. I swear ..
The NFL is turning into The WWF .. it's a downright shame ..

I went two years without television .. it was great .. I actually got alot done ..
I sometimes wonder why I even bother right now .. but, with The NFL season winding down,
and The PGA about to start up again .. It's about all I could care for ..

The History channel, the SciFi channel .. are sometimes not bad at all .. but the rest?
Throw um in the can .. it's a bunch a BS .. Everything is *fixed* .. and the outcome
of every reality show has already been determined .. I'm convinced ..

[the_incubus]

LOL .. and even at that .. *Inside The NFL* is a crock .. :evil:
..

entourage, curb your enthusiasm, Def Comedy Jam, etc. Its just great (with the exception of inside the NFL...i guess :p and John from Cincinnati)

[Tomi Hawk]

Def Comedy Jam
Now that is a good show .. yes! ;)

[FlyingPhotog]

entourage, curb your enthusiasm, Def Comedy Jam, etc. Its just great (with the exception of inside the NFL...i guess :p and John from Cincinnati)

I've been in Sports TV for over 20 years but I do have some exposure to the entertainment side so "Entourage" cracks me up.

Loved "Deadwood" and "Band of Brothers." And although I caught up to it late (middle of season two-ish), I found "Rome" fascinating.

[rhys]

and dont forget the most important reason... Heidi Klum
.
Who?

TVs only saving grace is HBO.
No. TV's only saving grace is the off button.

[cosworth]

Nova (PBSHD), NGCHD, Discovery HD, Showcase, Hockey Night In Canada (HD).


There is some programming that is so amazing to see in HD that you simply cannot write it off as a medium unto itself. Spike TV is garbage. TBS? It's the damn Spiderman channel.

True that you need MORE channels in the premium ranges to enjoy it, but if you just get a basic cable setup you only get trailer park crap.

There is GREAT TV programming out there, just watch it. It's on right now.

[Shabookie]

Everyone on this board could have been on that show. Everything was setup for them, lighting, great gear, associates, etc....

First reality show I have watched in awhile.

[HYBEagle]

Just watched the first two episodes yesterday. I wonder how many of them are also members of this forum, it would be interesting to hear what they say about discussions on this board regarding the show.

The VH-1 video links are broken, so I still have not seen the show.

Russell James (host):
http://russelljames.com Competent but uninspired.

Dean Zulich seems to have the most imagination and greatest competence:
http://www.deanzulich.com

Jason Clevering:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=268647479 He has friends and family connections!
http://www.jasonclevering.com/ Just a splash page
http://www.thewonderfulgroup.com/ Aren't we great
... and no photos except one splash. But he looks like an artist ...

Robin Perine:
http://www.robinperine.com/
Has potential and some sense of posing, but depends on subjects with shock-value. Lighting is out of control with almost all shots washed out.

Airic Lewis:
http://airiclewisphotography.com/
A flair for posing and not afraid to take risks with portraits, but lighting is out of control.

John, the wedding photographer, a bit too generic clues for my search skills. Sorry.

Maria Carmel:
http://www.imakefun.blogspot.com/ Blog
http://www.modelmayhem.com/member.php?id=64313
Also good potential, sophisticated look, needs to stretch a bit.

Ivan Paric has imagination. Needs more portfolio and had bad lighting on the fireman.
http://www.ivanparic.com

[ironchef31]

I finally had a chance to watch all episodes this past month. I kinda wish they didn't edit out all the technical camera talk while they are working like settings and lens choice. It makes it look like all they have to do is point the camera and shoot. There definitely was some lighting setup and dialing in.

Although the primary purpose of the show is pure entertainment, you do learn a bit about this aspect of photography.

I hope they make another.