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jra
10th of November 2007 (Sat), 21:22
So, where do you envision photography in 20 years? This is obviously a hypothetical question that has no right answer but it's something I've often wondered. Recently, digital cameras seem to be leveling out as far as technology goes...in a way it's kind of nice that you can buy a camera body and actually expect it to last a few years before it's eclipsed by the latest and greatest....For example....just look at the 20D, it's still quite a capable camera and even though two models have been released after it, technology hasn't really given us that much extra. Or the 1DsMkII and 5D....they're both quite long in the tooth as far as digital technology goes but they still manage to hold their place at the head of the pack.

So back to the original question....where do you envision photography in 20 years? Do you think technology will level off and we'll be pretty much where we are today...with a few extra bells and whistles of course....or do you think photography will be something completely different from what we call photography today. There's some cool technology that I've seen that would indicate photography could go down a very different path. As I stated above, there's no right answer since none of us could know the future but this is just for fun...just to get some opinions. :)

JeffreyG
10th of November 2007 (Sat), 21:30
I think things are stabilizing...where cameras will not be radically different in 20 years.

Looking back, film cameras had some major shakeups like SLRs, in camera metering and autofocus.

Then came digital which was a huge revolution.

Now we are more into incremental change like faster autofocus, bigger LCDs and cleaner high ISO noise. I think it is telling that the last few cameras have been hyped as giant killers for high ISO noise and the reality is just incremental. I suspect we will see this trend continue for the Nikon D3 and the next 5D/1Ds.

Some claim that video will supplant stills at some point but I doubt it. You can't hang video on the wall or make an album of it. Watching video demands a time commitement that is different from enjoying stills. I think photography will continue for the next 20 years.

short5
10th of November 2007 (Sat), 21:36
For the general consumer p&s in green box mode crowd I imagine they will use high resolution video and capture stills from it. Maybe the same for news outlets and commercial shooters but I cant see hobbyists giving up SLRs.

JeffreyG
10th of November 2007 (Sat), 21:40
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For the general consumer p&s in green box mode crowd I imagine they will use high resolution video and capture stills from it

I just don't know about this. People like the little movie modes they can get now with digicams, but I'm not too sure they will really put up with getting all of their stills that way. The barrier is editing time....if the camera always captures a video feed then you have to sift through that to pick your stills which takes time.

randy p.
10th of November 2007 (Sat), 23:39
i dont think photography will be a industry in 20 years. youre going to have HD video cameras that can take a 12 MP noiseless frame grab with amazing dynamic range that cost under 10K

vpnd
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 00:26
20 years from now well be carrying 40 megapixel cameras that weigh 8oz and have .0000001microns in between pixels. lenses will probably be the same right? ( i really don't know since i can't see the future.)

agent.media
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 03:37
I can't see lenses changing very much. Probably better IS.

I see sensitivity being off the scale though. Mabye to the point where a "fast" lens becomes redundant, unless it's the DOF you are after.

I also think bigger sensors will be the way, as I think there will be eventually (or maybe already) more pixels on an area of a chip than there is detail, from the lens, to detect.

I also see there being a "mega pixel ceiling" were the world finally realises that "more" is not better and the amount of mega pixels on subsequent model cameras levels out.

tag141
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 03:47
Where ever it ends up, I bet we'll all still be logging in here...

GyRob
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 04:55
i think some sort of high res vidio (far better IQ than now )that will give noiseless frame grab will be the mainstream type of camera the shot will be almost garenteed as any moment can be captured from the vid..say for birding a King Fisher can be caught just as it leves the water with a fish -or as it enters the water.

Rob.

vdao1972
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 05:20
The main change I think we will see in photography is that it will move into the masses more with the technology in the hands of the normal person. Like say, on a mobile phone. You will see mobile phones with 10+ megapixel imaging capacity. Also, there is a company out there (can't remember their name) that is working on a liquid lens that will essentially change focal lengths with electrical charges. So now what you have is a small and unobtrusive camera which images magazine like quality photos. This might put PJ's out of business (I hope not as I will be out of a job).
As for megapixels, anyone check out the gigapixel project here (http://www.gigapxl.org/). Check it out and see what the future holds.
I can also see selectable autofocus points available after a shot has been taken. I read somewhere that there was research into this.
But maybe this will all be a moot point when we have cyberized a bit of our brain to allow 3D versions of photos. Check out this presentation here (http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/129) for an idea where this could head.

Riff Raff
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 06:05
So, where do you envision photography in 20 years?

The main thing I see coming is convergence between still cameras and video cameras. Digital still cameras keep getting higher frame rates while digital video cameras keep getting higher resolution. Eventually I have to assume they're going to meet in the middle somewhere.

twofruitz
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 06:46
Some claim that video will supplant stills at some point but I doubt it. You can't hang video on the wall or make an album of it. Watching video demands a time commitement that is different from enjoying stills. I think photography will continue for the next 20 years.




Hanging video on the wall in 2030... i think the chances are very real.

spelchek
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 06:52
Hanging video on the wall in 2030... i think the chances are very real.

Whatdya mean 2030? Its already here.

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http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:A2pihhfuQEQ3RM:http://www.lt21.com.tw/files/Product/files/8%2520inch%2520digital%2520photo%2520frame%2520.JP G

Whatever the advances in technology or decreaseing size vs increasing power/resolution, the fact remains that it will take the creativity of individuals to get the most out of the technology.

The art of photography (IMHO) will always be solely dependent on the individual taking the photo.. not the technology itself.

I Simonius
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 07:29
So, where do you envision photography in 20 years?

20 yrs?

I suspect there will be someting other than the curent 'pixel' based sensortr technology

People like the shape of cameras, so ithink that wil stay

What will change mostly is not th=e cameras but the modes of presentation

I expect that 3D imagery will be as popular as 2D is now, i.e. 3D imaging wil be the norm for pros, rich amateurs will dabble

Interactice displays will be the norm

it will all be on the net

keitht
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 08:15
20 years from now well be carrying 40 megapixel cameras that weigh 8oz and have .0000001microns in between pixels. lenses will probably be the same right? ( i really don't know since i can't see the future.)
Actually, the wave length of light is about half a micron, so it wouldn't fit into pixels very much smaller than today..:cool:

Leaving that aside, GPS must be just around the corner. It's like live view, once one manufacturer puts it in, they will all start.

Also consumer cameras are going to get much smarter at recognising people. They already recognise faces, and the latest ones look for people smiling, but soon they will learn all your relatives and pay particular attention to them. They will also automatically figure out who is in the picture and where it is and offer an option to name the picture appropriately. E.g. "Bert and Freda next to the Eiffel Tower".

As phones get better and better cameras built into them, it is going to slice off the bottom end of the consumer market; particularly since you can send your pictures to your friends immediately from a phone.

I agree that consumer video cameras will merge into still cameras, although not until manufacturers want it to happen.

As for SLRs, it is difficult to see how the existing design, originally based on film, can survive. Really, the only thing it has going for it is the through-the-lens view via the mirror. Everthing else could be done by a llive view sensor (once a few problems with performance are sorted out). If you imagine a Leica-type design with autofocus and live view, then it would be lighter than an SLR, and could still have interchangeable lenses and a full-frame sensor. You could still have focus indicators superimposed on the live view and a real image if you wanted it as well (via a separate viewfinder).

The problem Leica have is that the viewfinder does not zoom, but compact cameras have zoom viewfinders, and the information on how far to zoom it for a camera with EOS lenses can come from the lens.

Frankly, live view LCDs are better for focussing and previewing most things than optical SLR viewfinders. The only good thing about optical viewfinders is their speed of use, and the fact that you can use them without squinting at the LCD with reading glasses.

If someone brought out a bridge camera with a decent electronic viewfinder and a full frame sensor with interchangeable lenses, I think people would prefer it to an SLR. This is already happening with the 1D Mk III because some professionals are using laptops as viewfinders.

Just my two penny worth...

MDJAK
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 08:19
Well, all I KNOW is that it's still going to be damn expensive to own the best, and everybody else can have the rest. :)
me

I Simonius
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 08:38
Well, all I KNOW is that it's still going to be damn expensive to own the best, and everybody else can have the rest. :)
me

ain't that true!;)

Jim G
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 08:53
Canon was talking about liquid lenses not all too long ago as a possibility with a number of other things in the same article... there were a few interesting things there.

If it all turns into video cameras I'm still going to be taking photos - I just don't think creatively in video, I think in single moments. I have a friend who's the exact opposite... it'd be kind of interesting were we able to use the exact same camera for our different crafts.

Cr4zYH3aD
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 09:04
20 MP full frame at best

Edit: gigapixel project ? Oh yeah, we just need 1 gigapixels and no more blurry images at 1600x1200 :D

Edit 2 : How will liquid lenses works ? A tube with water ?

Tom W
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 09:43
20 years? Video and still will have merged into one machine for most purposes.

jra
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 09:55
Definately some good ideas...Personally,I think photography will be pretty much the same as today in 20 years. Some changes I would expect to see would be larger sensors becoming more affordable...Medium format and FF SLR's would be within the reach of the average person. I think the Megapixel wars will pretty much end since technology will be bumping heads with the laws of physics. I wouldn't be suprised to see all moving parts done away with in cameras as electronic control could be used instead....this would make cameras lighter and more reliable (hopefully anyways :) )

I don't think video and still photography will merge...not because it couldn't but because many people just want to take still photos. If a persons desire was to take still photos, they wouldn't want to shell out the mega bucks on a video camera with many features that would be useless for still photos. Not to mention...If you're using a video camera, how would that affect lighting set-ups? Video cameras would require a person to use hot lights all the time....certainly not as user friendly or effective as strobes.

Unity Gain
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 10:46
Still photography will never go away. Of course technology will change, and there will be lots of new techniques developed. There will be lots of new trends and fads that come along. But I think the biggest changes in still photography will have nothing to do with the gear....they will instead have to do with the way we learn photography and the kinds of pictures we want to take.

1) Learning PHotography - The ability to learn advaned techniques is now FREE and accessible on the internet. When I first began in photography, it took blood. I mean it took blood. I had to pay a fortune for school and then spend years getting beat up as an assistant for a-hole photographers to learn the craft. NOw, a newbie can just login to his computer and learn everything for free. And you know what? THeir free & easy education is better than my old blood-sweat-tears education.

2) The Pictures We Take - I think that what we percieved as beautiful is going to change in the next 20 years. Right now, we are living at the end of a very decadent period in human history. Since the end of World War 2....people growing up in the West have been exposed to endless images of advertising products...over-sexualized women....homosexualized males...Lots of distortions of reality. I think that in 20 years we will not be as decadent/superficial and we will look at the world and ourselves a little differently. I think that we will see beauty in different places than we do now. I think that family and nature will be more important. I think that the Dave HIlls and the LaChapelles of the world will not be able to find work.

Just one man's opinion

Eagle
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 11:07
SLR's will still be here. P&S's will be smaller. Cell phone type cameras will be better quality. More advancement will be in how we view/share our shots. How they're sent from the camera to the editor, print device, storage mode, etc. There will be no more memory cards in the camera, bluetooth type satellite connection to various storage areas at time of taking the picture. How about a camera built into eyeglasses or contact lens (maybe more than 20 years).

sandro9mm
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 11:32
well, I'm 20 years old, when I was born there was no DSLR's on the market, we didn't have personal computers etc. So judging by the development in this 20 years, I think we will see our eyes used as camera :) imagine brain taking endless mpx photos, our eyes have variable aperture per point, it would make a hell of a lens and hell of a camera (our brain)

The Ghost of FM
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 11:43
Perhaps the ultimate expression of photographic technology would be one that mimics what our eyes see, in 3D and viewing devices that are hemispherical so that our view of them is one and the same as what we see with our eyes now.

It's pretty hard to improve upon what nature came up with in the first place so duplicating that, to me, seems like the apex to aspire toward.

Perhaps 20 years is a bit optimistic for that though. :)

Cheers! :)

NZDoug
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 12:35
Exotic iPhone movie/camera gps banking computer devises.

DaveL
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 12:43
I think the ability to create image separation and blur a background
will always be in desirable. I kind of question how the ridiculously
improved IQ of consumer products would blend with traditional
photographic skill...


Then again, aliens from another galaxy could whack everything out
with an electromagnetic storm and enslave us so go figure... ;)

ikolpdog
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 13:27
20 years from now? BioMech integration, you will access the internet through an optical stimulus. Your Camera will be your eye (your eye will be your camera!), and you will mentally choose what images to record both moving and still storing them on the Internet.

Resolution will be so high that cropping will replace focal length. We as humans will become "part of" the digital revolution.

Of course these upgrades will only be available to the rich (currently Western - but who knows in the future - population) the others will continue to be trampled under foot, and starve at the mercy of an ever agressive "Mother Nature".

What do I care, by then I will be 65 and not eligible for the National Health Service upgrade. Although I may pay for the interface to allow internet access through the optic nerve (wireless of course) :).

tonylong
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 13:28
Rather than delving into the exotic, I'm curious as to upcoming sensor technology. It seems like we are pushing up against the limits of current technology, especially with cameras like the 1Ds Mk III, but I'm sure that researchers are working hard to bring out the "next revolution".

One architecture that get dissed alot is Foveon, but it may in fact be a basis for something new and exciting...what do you think? Or, how about a sensor made up of nanoparticles that had a new and real-time way of transmitting information and could actually enable a sort of 3D quality to pics -- not real 3D, of course (we'd have to have two sets of lenses/sensors...hhhmmm...interesting thought...

Anyway, we do have a hard time forseeing the future!

agent.media
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 13:59
20 years from now? BioMech integration, you will access the internet through an optical stimulus. Your Camera will be your eye (your eye will be your camera!), and you will mentally choose what images to record both moving and still storing them on the Internet.

20 years ago some people thought we'd have flying cars.

I don't think in 20 years photography will be that different.

ikolpdog
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 14:22
20 years ago some people thought we'd have flying cars.

I don't think in 20 years photography will be that different.

Keep banging those rocks together ;).

Google "Brainport", it is just the begining. Oh and we do have flying cars for the rich they are called Helicopters! The very rich call them Lear Jets.

mdm
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 14:31
I believe man/woman will merge with machine. You will not not have to carry around a camera. Your image that you like will be captured to a hard drive device/computer directly from your eyes. I also think there will be a link between the brain and a computer. Geeeezzzzz I'm almost out of beer!

Mr B Snappy
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 16:09
I think low light performance will be superb, pixels will have independant iso control giving you noiseless in camera HDR.

carpenter
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 17:44
well, I'm 20 years old, when I was born there was no DSLR's on the market, we didn't have personal computers etc.

Are you saying that in 1987 there were no personal computers???

SeanH
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 17:59
I see someone figuring out a way to make all the equipment "speaking" the same language.......cameras, monitor, software and printer. Honestly I think of the hell we all go though with printing & color spaces, there has GOT TO be a way to make it easy. Personally I'm shocked nobody has done it yet........million dollar idea IMO.

ps249
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 19:09
Theres always going to be a supply and demand for digital cameras. After all- thats what sells newspapers and magazines. I see the SLR's getting higher megapixels and resolution and more "extras" while the camera bodies will get smaller- much like the Nikon D40.Consumer cameras will have around 30 MP in 20 years roughly adding 1 MP per year on average.

ashdavid
11th of November 2007 (Sun), 20:24
I hope the human race lasts another 20 years!:lol:

dan9
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 03:50
I hope the human race lasts another 20 years!:lol:

The first answer that questions the question! Good for you.

Current developments in labs have active pixel sensors with greatly increased maximum electron (saturation) levels, so expect to see new digital cameras with better highlight retention.

Then of course is the video integration. Happening as we speak...

HOWEVER, in 20 years there could be real problems around. Resource limitations, especially oil, will lead to all sorts of nastiness. Digital cameras have come of maturity during a time of great discretionary income in the developed word. That may well come to an end.

silvex
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 04:06
we will be probably bitching about stuff just like we do now...;)

trailstar
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 04:16
In twenty years prosumer-cameras will let you adjust focus through the plane on the computer after the shot is taken. think of the photo as "layered" when you shoot it.

I can't remember the source, but it is already out there. Will search.

trailstar
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 04:22
found it, here:

http://graphics.stanford.edu/papers/lfcamera/

danielyamseng
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 04:37
I think there will be no more canon,nikon etc. It's now wholly owned by Microsoft :)
Just look at it. DSLR are getting more and more electronic.
It'll be then run on an older window i.e Window Vista(at that time).

and always need to get security update.

will you taking picture you'll get virus
You need to install antivirus.

sometimes during critical moment , your' camera hang.Blue screen

some other time hacker hack into your camera and steal your work! worse secretly picture you and invade your privacy.

robbie321
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 04:37
While I agree there will be huge advancements in the technology, just like there has been in the last 20 years you have to remember that the fundamentals of photography are and have been the same for the last 150 years.

Light lands on a photosensitive surface which then produces a record.

I doubt that will change.

sandro9mm
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 11:04
Are you saying that in 1987 there were no personal computers???
no, first IBM PC was introduced in 1981 if I'm not mistaken. I mean they where not available for mass production.

Styria
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 11:27
no, first IBM PC was introduced in 1981 if I'm not mistaken. I mean they where not available for mass production.

PCs were always made by mass production. It would never have been worth it otherwise, if they needed the installation and customization requirements of servers and mainframes.

Madweasel
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 15:29
well, I'm 20 years old, when I was born there was no DSLR's on the market, we didn't have personal computers etc. So judging by the development in this 20 years, I think we will see our eyes used as camera :) imagine brain taking endless mpx photos, our eyes have variable aperture per point, it would make a hell of a lens and hell of a camera (our brain)
The eye and brain were developed a very long time ago :) and work well together. In fact the optical quality of the eye is pretty poor, but by continuously moving, it provides the brain with enough information to build a much better picture than would be seen if you just took a snapshot at the retina. Human vision is very complex. It's only because we've known it all our lives that we take it for granted.

nwa2
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 15:39
There will be much more dynamic range in even the smallest camera. Maybe cameras will be able to capture more dynamic range than the human eye.

Still cameras that take hundreds of images a second and build up an image in the same way as the human brain... maybe even stereo images.

amfoto1
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 18:15
I can't believe no one has mentioned holograms...

And what about remote viewing?

mdrtoys
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 18:53
I see the Cyberdyne D1000 going back to the past to take a picture of the leader of the human resistance.


I for one welcome our megapixaled overloards!

airfrogusmc
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 19:03
We can predict but I doubt we'd get it right. Who could have seen the digital camera world the way it is now in 1987?

DavidEB
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 19:13
In twenty years, my grandchildren (not yet born) will ask me "gee granddad what is that thing you're using to take pictures with? you say you call that a camera? wow, that's almost as weird as that old computer-thingy you use... can you tell us another story about the old days when the internet was outside you?"

Zebceponaf
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 21:46
I can see gps enabled auto tracking being a pretty cool idea, especially for sports. Imagine placing a gps tranceiver on your subject, and you camea autofocues based on that, guaranteed focusing!

What about wide angle lenses with the compression of telephoto?

What about this? Hopefully it wont take 20 years...
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/Zebceponaf/IMG_1919-copy.jpg

mdm
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 21:52
I see the Cyberdyne D1000 going back to the past to take a picture of the leader of the human resistance.


I for one welcome our megapixaled overloards!

Do you mean the t1000 ?

Bill Boehme
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 22:12
So, where do you envision photography in 20 years?

On the other side of the grass.

mdrtoys
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 22:17
Do you mean the t1000 ?



No, i used my wit to change the T1000 to the D1000 as in digital

Moppie
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 23:15
No, i used my wit to change the T1000 to the D1000 as in digital

Do a forum search for SkyNet. You might be closer to the true reality than you realise...............:shock:

ThomasOwenM
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 23:26
no, first IBM PC was introduced in 1981 if I'm not mistaken. I mean they where not available for mass production.

Oh, yes they were. I've owned a personal computer since 1984.

ThomasOwenM
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 23:39
I think very high ISO with extremely minimal noise will come about. You'll be able to take an ISO 12800 photo with hardly any graniness.

I also think hologram technology will allow you to take a hologram of someone and store it in a household device so that you can pull up a 3D image of a loved one standing in your living room. I think we'll have cameras that will interface with both the human eye and brain. We see things and our brain automatically corrects a large part of the image. I think there will be some kind of device that records what we've seen after our brain has post-processed it to great improvement.

I think some stuff will stay the same, however. The stuff about photography that was the same in 1930 as it is today will still be the same in 20 years. A good portrait taken in 1930 is still good today and will be in 20 years. We'll still have aperture, shutter speed, ISO and bokeh. The rule of thirds will still apply. Photography will still be about capturing an emotional feel and about saying something.

There will also still be some people who use the technology well to create amazing work and other clowns who can't create anything worthwhile no matter how much technology they aquire. There will still be photographers with vision and the clueless who just snap whatever.

gjl711
12th of November 2007 (Mon), 23:51
well, I'm 20 years old, when I was born there was no DSLR's on the market, we didn't have personal computers etc. So judging by the development in this 20 years, I think we will see our eyes used as camera :) imagine brain taking endless mpx photos, our eyes have variable aperture per point, it would make a hell of a lens and hell of a camera (our brain)no, first IBM PC was introduced in 1981 if I'm not mistaken. I mean they where not available for mass production. Hmm. The only thing IBM invented was the name PC. But there were commercially available PCs years earlier. Apple was first introduced in 1976 making it 31 years old, but it was not the first either. There were Altairs, DEC PDP11, heck, even Honeywell had a PC back in 1966. But I think that Heathkits EC-1 has to be the first commercially available one. It was put out way back in 1959 making it almost 50 years old. :)

20 years ago some people thought we'd have flying cars... There have been several flying cars. Building a flying car is easy. Making it available to everyone is hard. It's just not cost effective yet.

we will be probably bitching about stuff just like we do now...;) Some things never change. ;)

ThomasOwenM
13th of November 2007 (Tue), 00:01
There have been several flying cars. Building a flying car is easy. Making it available to everyone is hard. It's just not cost effective yet.

It may never be practical to trust the general public to operate a flying vehicle. Think of all the boneheaded things people do on the road. Would you really want them doing them in the air?

mdm
13th of November 2007 (Tue), 07:33
No, i used my wit to change the T1000 to the D1000 as in digital

ahhhhhhh, slick.

tonylong
13th of November 2007 (Tue), 19:28
Twenty years from now Canon will have announced a fix for their 1Dz Mk III and will begin recalling them.

It seems the 1Dz was doing fine focusing on the base 2-dimensional focus plane but was front-focusing on the z-axis. It was driving people nuts, because when they looked at the images in their 2-d conversion software things would look OK, but when they applied the z-axis layer what "popped out" looked like crap.

Many users blamed the problem on the photographer's "poor technique" until Canon finally announced that there was a defect.

danielyamseng
13th of November 2007 (Tue), 20:11
There'll be intelligent camera run by microsoft window.

and portable camera embedded on the glasses.

and portable x-ray camera to take x-ray picture.
radiologist no longer need to use heavy and buly machine.

even amateur can use the device to take x-ray picture.
now hdr will become obsolete. A/D will be 32-bit

will see a lot of x-ray pictures namely dog,cat, lizard, cockcroach ..

-MasterChief-
13th of November 2007 (Tue), 20:16
i dont think optics will change much. in 20 years, sensor technology, storage and storage media will have improved 10-fold (or more!). i do think that resolution will hit a plateau -- probably at the 50MP range, IMHO.

lungdoc
13th of November 2007 (Tue), 20:38
I'd predict the selection and interpretation of data on the computer will become increasingly important, perhaps to the detriment of much of what we do now. Whether in terms of time (thinking multiple frames and selecting as many have pointed out), exposure (capture all of the info. with big dynamic range so you can change the 'look' as you like later), focus (capture enough data to alter focus in post),or zoom/crop (capture enough to hone in on area of interest with good quality). If we can capture a big amount of information about a scene we'd be able to do all of those things (and probably more). There'd probably be a set of those parameters used as the initial 'photo' but if we're getting all that data we'd be able to resort and reuse it in many ways.

gjl711
14th of November 2007 (Wed), 09:34
We’ll have increased dynamic range covering not only the visual part of the spectrum, but extending into the infrared and ultraviolet parts of the spectrum as well. No more IR conversions, just a setting on the camera.

I see cameras having GPS built in standard with the GPS coordinated right in EXIF headers allowing one to pinpoint to within a meter where one was standing and which direction one was facing. You could then see a pic you like on the web, head off and stand in the exact same location and take the pic yourself.

Biometric anti-theft devices. Imagine a power button that only activates for you. One press of the finger, the camera identifies you as its master and thus turns itself on. A strange finger will do nothing.

Multiple sensors covering differing focal lengths developing a three dimensional image of the scene with all the entire image in focus. This will then allow the end user to control DOF, bokah depending on artistic vision, not on the optical qualities of the glass.

The size will shrink tremendously so that we will have Hassy quality images from a camera about the size of a P/S today.

stugotzo
14th of November 2007 (Wed), 10:39
I think you'll see much more communication capabilities that have already been incorporated into cellphones.

You'll be able to take a pic from your card, and e-mail it directly from your camera (wireless) to your e-mail address, or any other address. You'll also be able to manipulate the picture, in-camera, and send the final product to a website.

I don't think that's 20 years off either. More like 3-5 years.

I would like to see features like taking pictures of magazine models, and having them come to life. :lol:

shellshock08
14th of November 2007 (Wed), 10:47
Photography will still very much be here in 20 years. I still shoot my AE-1 which my dad bought in 1980, and hell, I'll still be shooting it for the next two decades.

Dont know If I can say that about my 400D though :p

gjl711
14th of November 2007 (Wed), 10:50
...I would like to see features like taking pictures of magazine models, and having them come to life. :lol:
Wasn’t there a movie like that? I seem to remember it ended with an nuclear missile coming to life. :)

stugotzo
14th of November 2007 (Wed), 15:36
Wasn’t there a movie like that? I seem to remember it ended with an nuclear missile coming to life. :)
In my version there's a missile. Pretty sure it's not nuclear, though. :lol:

Vinni
14th of November 2007 (Wed), 19:50
I think we're getting close to perfect already. The average consumer does not need more than 10 megapixels, nor do we need live views and more than 6fps. 20 years is a long time, and somehow Canon will find a way to entice consumers once more. The only thing I can think of is making DSLRs smaller and lighter, to such an extent where they will be the new p&s norm.

danielyamseng
15th of November 2007 (Thu), 02:42
i think microsoft will have this camera jack in to our brain. can photography whatever we wanted to.

good for spying.

then microsoft will release a in camera detector. and put a sign

'no jack in camera allow.'

FlyingPhotog
15th of November 2007 (Thu), 03:01
Hi Def video won't offer much in the way of competition for photography until:

A) Everyone is in the 1080p world so there is no interlace (odd/even frames)
B) We (USA) dump NTSC as our video standard

NTSC = "Never Twice the Same Color"

gjl711
15th of November 2007 (Thu), 08:50
i think microsoft will have this camera jack in to our brain. can photography whatever we wanted to...'
Oh great, just what I need. A blue screen in front of my eyes with a bunch of hex number floating in air then a MS tech asking me to reboot my brain. ;):)

WaltA
15th of November 2007 (Thu), 14:48
PCs were always made by mass production. It would never have been worth it otherwise, if they needed the installation and customization requirements of servers and mainframes.

Not this one ... ;)

gjl711
15th of November 2007 (Thu), 15:04
Not this one ... ;)
Or this one. My dad and I put this one together.
http://www.swtpc.com/mholley/swtpc_6800.htm (http://www.swtpc.com/mholley/swtpc_6800.htm)

WaltA
15th of November 2007 (Thu), 15:10
Or this one. My dad and I put this one together.
http://www.swtpc.com/mholley/swtpc_6800.htm (http://www.swtpc.com/mholley/swtpc_6800.htm)


Sweet! 4K memory

gjl711
15th of November 2007 (Thu), 15:17
Sweet! 4K memory
Kind of funny to reflect back. Heck, you couldn’t even load a jpeg header into 4k. :)