Suggestion...

[mizuno]

At another forum I frequent, there is a board which doubles as a share/critique board.

If you specifically want critique, you simply precede your thread title with [critique]. Similarly if you just want to share, you precede the title with [share]. It makes it very obvious before you even click on the link what kind of feedback the poster is seeking.

If you want both: [share / critque].

It makes a lot of sense and saves any hurt feelings along the way. I think it could be useful here, too.

[henleg]

Not a bad idea. But I genrally think that most people here do actually want constructive criticism. Generally, if people don't want C&C, they say, "C&C not neccessary."

Or perhaps a "[be gentle, and DON'T MENTION FOCUS!]" might be suitable...

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[woodsters]

From what I see, the Glamour.Nude section is under "Sharing"....there is a "Critique Corner" in another part of the forum. Of course you couldn't probably post nude there. But with that said. No one should get their feelings hurt. There are many people here with many different views and opinions. I come here to share. But I accept the critiques. After all, that is what will make me better. There are many other places on the web for just "sharing". I frequent some of those as well. But I don't really see it necesarry to do as you suggested. Of course if you want to do that, then by all means feel free to put that in your thread subject line.

[52k]

I agree, generally the response I've had has been encouraging and very useful. I've picked up many tips which have helped me along the way. It's in people nature to say if they like or don't like something and I think anyone who posts pictures up on here can reasonably expect that.

You will always get a few however who are rude and abrupt or will post a comment offering little or no explanation but hey that's internet discussion forums for you. It's OK not to like something that someone has posted up and also to say so but if you're going to do that, then at least tell them why and perhaps offer some suggestion as to how they might make changes.

I like to view inspirational work by people like Lorek and Jason Cole and it gives me great ideas to try in the studio but it's also important not to forget the novices who post up their work and want an honest opinion. I've had a lot of help in the past on here so try to put something back once in a while and find such users and try to offer them some well explained advice or suggestion from my honest opinion. People respond well to that and gain a lot from it.

[macroshooter1970]

if you can't take it then don't post it.

[George Chew]

Greetings,
I look at what the posters write. If he/she do ask for C&C, then I may add my opinions. Otherwise, I look at the better side of the image and compliments given. However, to learn and improve, we must take every comments with an open mind. Enjoy...

[khall]

George. You hit the nail on the head, when you say "Open Mind"

[OL9245]

There are a few unwritten rules here at POTN. bad or good, I think POTNers got udes to them and fell comfortable with:
* Posters who have "Editing OK" in their profile are already kown as open to critique.
* Posters with low post count are implicitely suposed to be asking for C&C, and they receive them, most of the time written in kind words.
* Posters with very high post count receive critique only when requested. Some pillars of the forum are sometimes posting images with poor IQ, which they dont care so much, because theirt purpose is to share some special event where unfortunately they could get a decent image.
* finally, some who are definitely in need of C&c put "c&C" in the thread title.

[mizuno]

At another forum I frequent, there is a board which doubles as a share/critique board.

If you specifically want critique, you simply precede your thread title with [critique]. Similarly if you just want to share, you precede the title with [share]. It makes it very obvious before you even click on the link what kind of feedback the poster is seeking.

If you want both: [share / critque].

It makes a lot of sense and saves any hurt feelings along the way. I think it could be useful here, too.

[taygull]

In other forums I'm a member of there is a difference in a critique and someone just saying something like...

It looks like a frilly wedding dress from the 80's reincarnated as an advert.

Tell me exactly how your comments are a "critique"?

There is a difference in hurt feelings and someone calling someone out for just being rude. I enter print competitions all the time, I get great feedback from judges who are great at letting you know everything you did wrong. The difference is they do it with respect.

[mizuno]

Can I please get an ambulance to thread 407214, I think we have some hurt feelings.

[taygull]

Can I please get an ambulance to thread 407214, I think we have some hurt feelings.

Yep you nailed it......:rolleyes:

So answer the question, how is your response a critique?

[mizuno]

So answer the question, how is your response a critique?

If you don't like your critique bring another picture!

[bcap]

I think it's a great idea Dan!

[sierra_nova]

I think it is a great idea.

I also have issues with other people having issues with so called "brutal" or "harsh" critique.

I love the critique given on this forum, and I think it is of more value than nicities. Yes, there are nice ways of saying harsh things - but the bluntness will make you think more, and the more you think, the more you will strive to improve.

As photographers, surely we are all striving to become better at our craft - and there will always be room for something improved in every single image. There is no such thing as perfection in Art.

Every single one of us will post something, at some point, that we think is the bee's knees, but that others just can't see the merit in. Sometimes we all need to be called on it.

Anywho - great idea, and end rant.

Cheers,
Naomi

[tim]

I like the idea. I see a lot of "nice pics!" comments on the horizon.

[drogos]

Damn Dan ! you ofended someone today too ???.......geeeezzzz man! Why do You have to keep running around and hurt people's feelings ! ?:)

[sblais]

Damn Dan ! you ofended someone today too ???.......geeeezzzz man! Why do You have to keep running around and hurt people's feelings ! ?:)


Shhhh! It's because it makes him stronger.


Now you know his secret! Run away!

[sblais]

I like your idea too though! Can we have a [destroy] option too?

[Wedding Shooter]

Sounds like a good idea.

[liza]

I like the idea. At present, I don't comment on anyone's photos (with the exception of Emin's).

[drogos]

Hey
feel free to bash mine
i behave like a cry baby at first, since my ego was hurt but at the end of the day i am so glad i did hear honest critique. :) And i agree, it's so hard not to rave over Emin's work .. I actually think i will get married just to hire him as a photographer :)

[bcap]

Sorry, who is Emin?

[sblais]

Hey
feel free to bash mine
i behave like a cry baby at first, since my ego was hurt but at the end of the day i am so glad i did hear honest critique. :) And i agree, it's so hard not to rave over Emin's work .. I actually think i will get married just to hire him as a photographer :)

You smell like poo.

[sblais]

Sorry, who is Emin?

His username is :hjhjhjhjhjhjhjhjhjhjhj (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/member.php?u=76625)

[liza]

Emin Kuliyev

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/member.php?u=76625

[drogos]

You smell like poo.

Please, dude! Concentrate on Your own scent first!:p

[jessiper]

I think it's a good idea, too.

[joshbehan]

i think it's a good idea too. i always want critiques, but understand that not everyone always has time to do more than just scroll through and view the images (which is what i do 9 times out of 10)

[notapro]

I think it's a good idea. Hopefully other sub-forums will adopt it too. It would save having to beg for honest opinions in your posts so that nobody worries they're going to hurt your feelings.

[amironsi]

i agree on the idea... i will start using it in my future posts.


but that [destory] will be so much violence for this forum..

[Niraj]

excellent idea... and it might encourage me to post some stuff up without the fear of being ridiculed :) oh, and if we have issues, perhaps we should start the subject title with "[idea]" or "[vent]" LOL

[Dirtyeddie]

Mizuno that isn't a bad idea. I'm all for constructive comments and critiques that's how we keep growing as photographers. That said I do post pics here that are unique or are something I am nice enough to share. Sometimes i end up getting ridiculous advice from "hacks" who don't know what they're talking about... ie.) Advice on underwater photography from someone who has NEVER done it! The moral police who think their views are how it should be for everyone... and last but not least the assumers... These are the one's that always insinuate the worst. I'd like to see an enjoy the pic setting and a please critique.

[razyl]

Wow he's good. But is he 12 foot tall?! Half the shots in the first wedding gallery are taken from way up high

Emin Kuliyev

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/member.php?u=76625

[razyl]

He makes me want to get a fish eye lens....

[khall]

Members post pictures for members to comment on and members then make comments as they see appropriate for the picture posted. If adverse comments get made, then the poster must roll with the punches, all members are not experts in all fields of photography, buts lots of good ideas come from members replies. That is then not only for the posters benefit but all members of POTN.

[Mike6158]

Members post pictures for members to comment on and members then make comments as they see appropriate for the picture posted. If adverse comments get made, then the poster must roll with the punches, all members are not experts in all fields of photography, buts lots of good ideas come from members replies. That is then not only for the posters benefit but all members of POTN.

I used to be but I had to cut back on my disposable camera budget :cool:

[Niraj]

when are we going to start using the square brackets for new threads [?]

[joshbehan]

another idea along these lines would be to have something you could switch on (like the "image editing ok" option) in your profile settings that would forever display your c/c wishes. just an idea

[liza]

Wow he's good. But is he 12 foot tall?! Half the shots in the first wedding gallery are taken from way up high

He's good enough to have been recognized twice this year by David Beckstead on the Admired by Beckstead Blog. Beckstead is a 10K shooter of impeccable taste and reputation.

[cyber_m0nkey]

Members post pictures for members to comment on and members then make comments as they see appropriate for the picture posted. If adverse comments get made, then the poster must roll with the punches, all members are not experts in all fields of photography, buts lots of good ideas come from members replies. That is then not only for the posters benefit but all members of POTN.

Well said.

If you don't want comments or critique then don't post in a public forum, setup a private web gallery and just exhibit the pics.