how to print 8x10 from digital.

[mmartinfan]

OK I'll try this again since I got no real answer from my last post. I sent a couple of pics to RTIZ CAMERA be printed and well the ends were cut off againnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. :evil: :evil: :evil:

This sucks, while I did not need these photos right away, I would still like to have them to show some of my clients.

So I ask again what settings do I need to have in Photoshop7.0 to show a full 8x10 and not have anything cut off? I do not want and formula's nor do I want explainations, I have tried to change the image size and canvas size and nothing, its still cut off.

[cmM]

have your image be the exact size (8X10, or 2400 x 3000 pixels @ 300dpi)
at that point if its still cut off you can call ritz and yell at them.

[Jon]

Try making a new picture that's 3072x2460 and paste the photo into that. That will give you an 8x10 at about 300 ppi. If they still don't get it right, go somewhere else.

[robertwgross]

You have only about four choices:

(1) Crop the digital TIF image yourself before taking the JPEG to a photo printing shop.

(2) Let the photo printing shop crop the photo for you. You've tried this already.

(3) Arrange for the print to be made with blank white edges on two sides. Most people do not like this.

(4) Stretch the image to conform to the aspect ratio you desire, like 8x10. This is not recommended for any decent photography.

---Bob Gross---

[tofuboy]

If your camera isn't taking the photos in a 1:1.25 ratio (8x10), then you will have to do what Bob Gross mentioned. I'm not sure what camera you have, but my camera takes photos in a 1:1.5 ratio (good for 4x6 or 20x30, or anything else with a 1:1.5 ratio. Anything else needs to be delt with as Bob Gross mentioned).

[PacAce]

OK I'll try this again since I got no real answer from my last post. I sent a couple of pics to RTIZ CAMERA be printed and well the ends were cut off againnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. :evil: :evil: :evil:

This sucks, while I did not need these photos right away, I would still like to have them to show some of my clients.

So I ask again what settings do I need to have in Photoshop7.0 to show a full 8x10 and not have anything cut off? I do not want and formula's nor do I want explainations, I have tried to change the image size and canvas size and nothing, its still cut off.

In photoshop:

1. Select "Image | Image Size..."

2. Make sure that "Constrain Proportions" at the bottom is Checked.

3. Make sure that "Resample Image" is NOT Checked.

4. In the "Image Size" window, in hte "Document Size:" panels, change the "Width" to 10 inches.

5. Click "OK".

6. Next select "Image | Canvas Size..."

7. Change "Height:" to 8 inches (make sure "Relative" is NOT Checked.

8. Selec the color you want for the canvas extension at the bottom of the window.

9. Click OK.

You image should now be proportioned exactly for 8x10 prints and retain the complete original image. The above procedure assumes that you're image is in landscape format. If it's in portrait, then exchange "Height" for "Width" and "Width" for "Height" in the steps above.

BTW, when I apply the above technique to print a 2/3 image on a 4/5 paper, I make use of the added space by putting a title and a caption for the image so that the empty space doesn't look weird.

[ejwebb]

If you gave us the dimensions and dpi of the digital photo we could probably help with more specific instructions. As others have stated, most cameras do not produce photos in an 8X10 ratio (film or digital) and require cropping to that size. Bob has outlined your options to make such changes.

If your photo is in the proper ratio when you send it then they must be cutting off both width and height in order to provide you with an 8X10. If they are cutting off only the ends (either width or height depending on orientation) and you are still receiving an 8X10, then the image sent them must not have been in the proper ratio to begin with.

If the former is true then you need to talk to Ritz about why they are hacking up your image and if the latter is true then you need to look at Bob's recommendations and decide how you deal with it.

[pinball]

What software came with you printer, use that. I went around with this same problem trying to get photos to fit and found ou the best results where when I used the software that came with the printer.

Bill

[cmM]

What software came with you printer, use that. I went around with this same problem trying to get photos to fit and found ou the best results where when I used the software that came with the printer.

Bill
He's sending the pictures to Ritz camera, he's not printing on his printer at home.

[mmartinfan]

OK I'll try this again since I got no real answer from my last post. I sent a couple of pics to RTIZ CAMERA be printed and well the ends were cut off againnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. :evil: :evil: :evil:

This sucks, while I did not need these photos right away, I would still like to have them to show some of my clients.

So I ask again what settings do I need to have in Photoshop7.0 to show a full 8x10 and not have anything cut off? I do not want and formula's nor do I want explainations, I have tried to change the image size and canvas size and nothing, its still cut off.

In photoshop:

1. Select "Image | Image Size..."

2. Make sure that "Constrain Proportions" at the bottom is Checked.

3. Make sure that "Resample Image" is NOT Checked.

4. In the "Image Size" window, in hte "Document Size:" panels, change the "Width" to 10 inches.

5. Click "OK".

6. Next select "Image | Canvas Size..."

7. Change "Height:" to 8 inches (make sure "Relative" is NOT Checked.

8. Selec the color you want for the canvas extension at the bottom of the window.

9. Click OK.

You image should now be proportioned exactly for 8x10 prints and retain the complete original image. The above procedure assumes that you're image is in landscape format. If it's in portrait, then exchange "Height" for "Width" and "Width" for "Height" in the steps above.

BTW, when I apply the above technique to print a 2/3 image on a 4/5 paper, I make use of the added space by putting a title and a caption for the image so that the empty space doesn't look weird.


Ok tried this method........... still got the same results..... cut off edges and now it has some funk white area above and below the image. I know I did not give my photo size so here goes 3072X2048 full Large image.

I think it just may be Ritz....... they kinda suck and I'm thinking of telling them that........ :!: :!: :!:

I think it may be hopeless for me........ I am so pissed off by this I'm ready to chuck my camera into the lake..........

[tofuboy]

How about trying an online printing place? I've used ofoto.com before and have been happy with them. Not sure how other online photo processing places work, but with ofoto you get to select to crop to fit, or to leave it be and have the white spaces on the ends.

And if you feel like tossing your camera in the trash, how about we call my hands trash and you set it there? ^^:;

[ejwebb]

Since your image is 3072 X 2048 the ratio between the two numbers is 1.5 (3072/2048=1.5). The ratio for an 8X10 is 1.25 (10/8=1.25). You must crop some of the image from either or both ends to get it into the proper ratio for an 8X10 print.

I do not use your version of Photoshop but the easiest way to do this in Photoshop Elements 2 is to use the crop tool and set the width (or height, depending on orientation) to 10 and the height (or width) to 8 and the dpi to 300. Draw a box with the crop tool and move and resize it on your image to determine the exact crop you want to make. I'm sure you can do something similar in Photoshop.

Unfortunately you have to cut off part of your image but at least you decide what to cut and not Ritz.

Hope this helps.

[PhotosGuy]

Since your image is 3072 X 2048 the ratio between the two numbers is 1.5 (3072/2048=1.5). The ratio for an 8X10 is 1.25 (10/8=1.25). You must crop some of the image from either or both ends to get it into the proper ratio for an 8X10 print.

So crop, or...

Unless you want all the image on an 8X10, which should be possible, but you'll get empty white areas on the long side. ("some funk white area above and below the image.") I'd put the pic on a black canvas in this case, or matte it after.
You only have 2 good choices. The third, apply an uneven transformation to force the pic to 8X10 will distort the image.

[PacAce]

Ok tried this method........... still got the same results..... cut off edges and now it has some funk white area above and below the image. I know I did not give my photo size so here goes 3072X2048 full Large image.

I think it just may be Ritz....... they kinda suck and I'm thinking of telling them that........ :!: :!: :!:

I think it may be hopeless for me........ I am so pissed off by this I'm ready to chuck my camera into the lake..........

You should have gotten a perfect 8x10 printing without any cropping anywhere. So, if you did, then that tells me that Ritz is messing it up for you. I have a feeling that when they are trying to print borderless (you are printing it borderless, right?) they are letting a little bit of the edges extend out of the paper to guarantee a borderless print. My printer at home, by default, does the same thing so I have to set the overlap to 0 to get the whole thing printed without any cropping. Maybe Ritz can do the same for you or else you should go someplace else. Or ask them to print the image with the border if you want the whole image intact.

BTW, if you want the whole image from your frame and you want to print an 8x10 from it, you WILL get a large blank area above and below the image area. There's no way around that. Either that or you'll get the sides cropped off. The only way you'll get the whole image intact is by printing on 8x12 paper. And even with that, Ritz may still crop off the edges if you print it borderless.

[ejwebb]

PacAce - how can he get a perfect 8X10 image if the image he is sending them is 3072 X2048?

I agree that if he tried the procedures you suggested and sent them that adjusted file he would get an 8X10 but I don't think that is what he did. Additionally, this method would use all of the image but would distort the original image because the short side would be stretched - just making sure he undertstands this.

[PacAce]

PacAce - how can he get a perfect 8X10 image if the image he is sending them is 3072 X2048?

I agree that if he tried the procedures you suggested and sent them that adjusted file he would get an 8X10 but I don't think that is what he did. Additionally, this method would use all of the image but would distort the original image because the short side would be stretched - just making sure he undertstands this.

If you read my original post in this thread you'll know.

And, no, the method I details does NOT distort the image. It does, however, create extra space along the long edges which can't be help if he wants his whole image printed. :roll:

[cecilc]

"...Ok tried this method........... still got the same results..... cut off edges and now it has some funk white area above and below the image. I know I did not give my photo size so here goes 3072X2048 full Large image."

If you're trying to get an 8x10 (assume landscape) with a (I'm guessing) 300 ppi image, then you're going to have to submit to Ritz an image that is 3000 x 2400 pixels. You've just said that your image is 3072 x 2048 (admittedly, though, I don't know the ppi of your image) pixels .....

The math says that you're going to have some image cut off each end because your image is over 3000 on the long end, and that you're going to have some "funk white area" on each side because you don't have 2400 pixels on that dimension.

My guess is that if you get Ritz (or any other photo lab, for that matter) an image that is 3000 x 2400 pixels for an 8x10 at 300 ppi then you're going to get all the image that you want to see ....

But you will have to do some photo manipulation to get there. Images out of the camera are not automatically formatted for 8x10 prints.

Hope that helps ....

[ejwebb]

Sorry PacAce - misunderstood your message originally. But I don't think he actually did what you suggested anyway if he sent them a 3072 X2048 image.

[mmartinfan]

so there is no real way to get a 8x10 image from the 10D. Correct. So 8x12 is the only way to get an image without anything being cut off. I can't have the white area above and below the image because it will look bad. I guess the only real way to do it is photograph the image with extra space and hope that it is enough. :roll: :roll:

[tofuboy]

Another option which was briefly mentioned I think, would be to print it with the white edges then trim off the white, matte it, and put it in a larger frame. Anyways, good luck.

[redbutt]

"...Ok tried this method........... still got the same results..... cut off edges and now it has some funk white area above and below the image. I know I did not give my photo size so here goes 3072X2048 full Large image." .

This is because Ritz is printing the image on 8x12 paper. CostCo does this too for their 8x10 prints. All of the suggestions here for setting the image size work. IMHO the only good Ritz is a snack cracker...I stay far away from that place. Go get your pronts done online at a place like PhotoAccess or EZPrints, etc. You will get exactly what you want.

[KartGirlsMom]

I've had about 20 8x10 printed at Ritz in the last two weeks. I've cropped all the pictures to 8x10 before I sent them and haven't had any problem at all. I have a picture that I shot too tight, trying to avoid a bunch of junk in the background to crop (yes, I'm just learning and I feel pretty dumb) here (http://www.hogdalturf.com/aug8/images/IMG_1594.jpg) and I think I am going to have to talk my customer into having it printed as an 8x12.

I like using Ritz as they are about 10 minutes away and I can go pick photos up there instead of waiting for them to be shipped. I've had about 80 digital photos done there since I got my 10D and so far, so good.

[Steven M. Anthony]

If you are sending "full frame" (i.e., aspect ratio of 3:2) to Ritz, you likely have to select the appropriate option on their photo service (you are using online submission of photos, right?). I've done this through Adorama. After uploading photos, you choose a printing format. At Adorama, they show you 2 options: one where your photo fills every square mm of the parer (and chops off the left & right sides of the image in the process); the other shows your whole, un-chopped image with some white space at the top and bottom. The second option I described is the one you want. I'm sure Ritz has a similar system for online--or in-store.

good luck!

[Steven M. Anthony]

Well, I sit corrected. I just went to ritz's online service and there is no such option as I described Adorama has. I'm not even sure you can resize your photo to "fool" their system--it seems like it just blows up your image to fit the full 8 X 10 paper. If you don't mind photos through the mail, try adorama.com (don't worry, I do NOT get a commission!).