ISO noize on the 10D sample, how does the MarkII compare?

[toddb]

I posted this in another thread but thought it deserved it's own thread. The reason I post this is to find out really how much the MarkII's ISO noise reduction is compared to the 10D. This sequence was shot on a tripod with mirror locked up. I set the WB to auto and the lighting was tungsten and really it was pretty dimly lit (which is perfect to show the noise). I used aperture priority to F8 from a distance of about 30 inches. I know there is a 100 other things that the MarkII can do better, but I just want to focus on this part since I hear the 20D has something similar.

I saw the samples, but really, after you size the photo down and it's already well lit, I don't see much noise anyway. It's easier to compare side by side and show the full ISO ranges. So if I have any takers to finish the comparison, that would be great.

http://www.toddburke.net/forumpost/10d_iso_test.jpg

[toddb]

Darn, no takers on the 1D MarkII challenge. I wanted to follow up on this and report that I took this to my local Costco and printed this out on a 8x12 glossy paper and found that the noise is allot less visible on paper then on the screen. I don't think I'd be afraid to use 1600 now after seeing how it looks printed. Really it would depend on the photo though. I think if it my photo had allot of dark areas it would probably show more, but this was to show possible scenarios and not point out the weaknesses. I'd still love to see this same test done on the new 20D or MarkII.

[drisley]

That is a VERY good point.
As someone once pointed out, film used to have MUCH more noise than today's DSLR's. However, the only people who got to see the film's "100% crop" were those who worked in the darkroom. Most of us just saw the final result.
Today, we can all see the 100% crop of our digital work, and that is why everybody is complaining about noise, even though there is MUCH less than the equivalent for film.
In reality, the final output, either a smaller jpg for web, or a 4x6, 5x7, or 8x10 print will show almost no noise, even on the highest ISO settings.

[scottbergerphoto]

These are from a Mark II, ISO 1600, 16-35 f/2.8 , T=about 1/60, hand held on a moving boat.
No noise reduction done in post.
http://www.pbase.com/scottbergerphoto/image/31607975.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/scottbergerphoto/image/31607976.jpg
Regards,
Scott

[toddb]

I know this is an old thread, but now that the 20D has been out for a while, I was wondering if there would be any takers of doing a progression through all the ISO range like the image I posted with the 10D. I'm just curious how good that ISO noize is on the 20D and MarkII. It's hard to tell exactly from a single pictures because it seems to depend allot on the image of how much noize compared to a lower iso setting would be.