I really dont like it when..

[Emenresu]

It reaaaly bugs me when photographers are talking about apertures and when it is for example f2.8 they say "f two eight." There is a "point" in there!

[PacAce]

Umm, there's a slash in there, too. :confused:




;) :lol: :)

[samnz]

point - taken....I guess ;)

It's "oral txtin" - vry simlr to crappy txt spk tht taks 4eva 2read.

[Mike-DT6]

You've got it easy. You only get annoyed by that one when you hear people say it. I have to endure the idiom 'Nifty Fifty' in both written and spoken forms.

Mike

:lol:

[Glenn NK]

It reaaaly bugs me when photographers are talking about apertures and when it is for example f2.8 they say "f two eight." There is a "point" in there!

It's been part of the lingo for years - I started hearing it and using it in 1962, and I'm sure it was around long before that.

If you don't want to hear it, you'll have to give up photography.;)

How about "ten-four"?

How about "OK" or "TV"? It's a long list.

[Anke]

I can't I've ever heard anyone say it like that. How odd.

[MJPhotos24]

hmmm, I think I've said it both ways...but the only time I ever remember being asked is while shooting in the middle of the game, ya know the ol' "hey, what settings you shootin at?" and you give off readings fast and get back to shooting. Don't remember if I said two point eight or two eight or screw off and get your own settings jerk (what, I didn't like the guy who asked?)

[tonylong]

Heh1 I guess we have to deal with these things and sometimes go back and forth. When, for example, I type out a lens definition, I tend to type out the whole thing, like EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS (but I won't typically say "USM"). To me, every piece of that definition gives some information that may be meaningful to someone. However, brevity often wins over -- how much is up to whim -- so if I say 70-200 2.8 IS, everybody knows what I'm talking about, right -- even if I feel like I'm not quite saying everything about this lens that could be said!

[Mike-DT6]

What happens when you have to talk about a 50mm f/1.8?

:-D

[tonylong]

What happens when you have to talk about a 50mm f/1.8?

:-D


This is where "Nifty Fify" fits so well! It's not annoying texting, it's speaking a language -- let's see -- I know it's a real language...

Well anyway, we all know about the nifty fifty:)!

[Mike-DT6]

Oh for God's sake! :lol:

Mike

[tonylong]

Oh for God's sake! :lol:

Mike

Well, you should really say, OFGS -- that will get your point across:)!

[joegolf68]

Umm, there's a slash in there, too. :confused:




;) :lol: :)

Too funny!

Yeah, we each have our own quirks. Mine lately is fan-boys. :evil:

[Steve Parr]

If this is the worst thing facing us as photographers, I'd say we're in pretty good shape...

[Mike-DT6]

Well, you should really say, OFGS -- that will get your point across:)!

:lol: Good idea. I could have got away with replacing the G with an F that way! :lol:

[Mum2J&M]

What about "glass"? That one's starting to get on my nerves. I've used it before, but have stopped. TBH, I feel like a moron using that word to describe a lens/lenses, lol. ;)

[Mike-DT6]

I forgot about that one! That is annoying too, but not as annoying as Nifty Fifty! :lol:

Mike

[Mark_Cohran]

Geez, where have some of you guys been. The word glass for lenses has been around for ages, as well leaving out the word "point" when giving the aperture. All hobbies, professions and crafts have their linguistic shorthands and jargon. Language is for communication, and as long as the receiver understands the message, I can't see why anyone would get annoyed.

[Anke]

Reminds me of the video for one of Canons lenses. Every 10 seconds the voice-over would say "Canon EF 400mm f/2.8L IS USM Lens" when mentioning the lens. How much more annoying would that be to say that every time!?

[Mum2J&M]

Geez, where have some of you guys been. The word glass for lenses has been around for ages, as well leaving out the word "point" when giving the aperture. All hobbies, professions and crafts have their linguistic shorthands and jargon. Language is for communication, and as long as the receiver understands the message, I can't see why anyone would get annoyed.

I grew up with a long list of photographers in my family and not once did I hear them every use the word glass in place of lens. I just figured it was a sort of catch phrase that was being over-used. Ah well. Live and learn.

[Mum2J&M]

Reminds me of the video for one of Canons lenses. Every 10 seconds the voice-over would say "Canon EF 400mm f/2.8L IS USM Lens" when mentioning the lens. How much more annoying would that be to say that every time!?

I watched one of those videos, too, but I think it was for a larger lens and the title seemed to go on forever. Definitely overkill.

[Skip Souza]

You guys do know that the "Nifty fifty" is f/1.4 and the "Thrifty fifty" is f/1.8? :lol:

[Mike-DT6]

I read eslewhere on this forum that the N**** F**** is the f/1.8! :lol:

Mike

:-D

[cdifoto]

You guys do know that the "Nifty fifty" is f/1.4 and the "Thrifty fifty" is f/1.8? :lol:

No, the latter is called "sh1tty fitty" :)

[Chandler.]

You guys do know that the "Nifty fifty" is f/1.4 and the "Thrifty fifty" is f/1.8? :lol:

Really?

Where's Nifty?!!

Following on the 50mm thread, here is some fun with "Nifty Fifty" a simple Canon EF 50mm f1.8 mkII Lens on a Quest for fun and interesting photos around the world.

He's throwing off the boredom of semi-retirement and seizing the day - always making travel plans and always on the move, hitching on trains, planes and brown trucks. He may start a trend, who knows? :)

[here is the originating thread (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=121787) ]



[here is the following thread (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1488631)]

[Roy Mathers]

Geez, where have some of you guys been. The word glass for lenses has been around for ages, as well leaving out the word "point" when giving the aperture. All hobbies, professions and crafts have their linguistic shorthands and jargon. Language is for communication, and as long as the receiver understands the message, I can't see why anyone would get annoyed.

I've been a photographer for fifty years and have never heard any any photographer (apart from those on this forum) use the dreadful word 'glass' for. I agree that language is for communication - but there is also a thing called style too!

[tzalman]

It reaaaly bugs me when photographers are talking about apertures and when it is for example f2.8 they say "f two eight." There is a "point" in there!

I wonder if you get upset when you go into a store and the salesperson tells you one item is "A dollar twenty-nine" or another is "Five ninety-eight" Linguistic abbreviations are perfectly valid so long as they do not lead to misunderstanding. If the item cost five hundred and ninety-eight dollars and you tried to give the clerk five dollars and ninety-eight cents, now that would be upsetting.

[Mike-DT6]

Linguistic abbreviations are perfectly valid so long as they do not lead to misunderstanding. . . .

Or annoyance! :lol:

[Mum2J&M]

You guys do know that the "Nifty fifty" is f/1.4 and the "Thrifty fifty" is f/1.8? :lol:

I've always known the "Nifty Fifty" as the 1.8 due to its low selling price and decent quality pics... :confused:

[Roy Mathers]

Or annoyance! :lol:


:D:D

[Skip Souza]

No, the latter is called "sh1tty fitty" :)
Well, not in polite company :lol:
I've always known the "Nifty Fifty" as the 1.8 due to its low selling price and decent quality pics... :confused:
Hope Tim doesn't see this. I think he thinks of the 1.8 as more of a body cap with glass :rolleyes:

You guys are right, the 1.8 is frequently referred to as the Nifty Fifty though I think Thrifty is more appropriate. Not a BAD "piece of glass :p" as long as you give it time to focus and don't strain it to its' limits.

[Mark_Cohran]

I've been a photographer for fifty years and have never heard any any photographer (apart from those on this forum) use the dreadful word 'glass' for. I agree that language is for communication - but there is also a thing called style too!

Well, you're in the UK and I'm in the US - so there are some linquistic variations. :)

[Mark_Cohran]

I think some people are simply annoyed too easily.

[Mike-DT6]

Well, you're in the UK and I'm in the US - so there are some linquistic variations. :)

Yes, and it's all your fault! :lol:

[primoz]

Uff... if such small things bug you so much, you should do something about... like taking some pills to calm down ;) You might get heart attack of worrying so much about so obscure things. ;)

[Roy Mathers]

Well, you're in the UK and I'm in the US - so there are some linquistic variations. :)


Agreed, but surely style is important on both sides of the Atlantic?;)

[20droger]

Only a single-digit percentage of the posters in these forums would have even a rudimentary grasp of the concept of "style," much less such obscure concepts as "grammar" and "punctuation."

Vitually all communication here is incidental, and most of it is accidental.

[Mike-DT6]

And occasionally missing the letter 'r' out of words! :lol:

[20droger]

And occasionally missing the letter 'r' out of words! :lol:
I did omit the concepts of "spelling" and "typography." Intentionally.

And surely you mean "leaving" and not "missing"?

[Mike-DT6]

No, I meant missing. If I said you left it out, that suggests I believe you did it on purpose, whereas I actually believe you missed it out unintentionally. ;-)

Mike

[Mark_Cohran]

Agreed, but surely style is important on both sides of the Atlantic?;)

Well, do you mean style like Sean Connery or style like John Wayne. :) They both had style, but it was quite different.

[20droger]

No, I meant missing. If I said you left it out, that suggests I believe you did it on purpose, whereas I actually believe you missed it out unintentionally. ;-)

Mike
Hmm, "to miss something out"! Must a be a Britishism, because my English professor would have castigated me thoroughly for such a construct.

[Mike-DT6]

You must remember that it is our language and we have only lent it to you. It took us many centuries to fine-tune, but then you lot went and wrecked it in only five minutes by the introduction of 'Nifty Fifty'.

[Skip Souza]

Well, you're in the UK and I'm in the US - so there are some linquistic variations. :)

Agreed, but surely style is important on both sides of the Atlantic?;)

Hmm, "to miss something out"! Must a be a Britishism, because my English professor would have castigated me thoroughly for such a construct.


Two peoples separated by a common language :lol:

[ALaS]

Av: 1:2.8

Better?

[Mum2J&M]

You must remember that it is our language and we have only lent it to you. It took us many centuries to fine-tune, but then you lot went and wrecked it in only five minutes by the introduction of 'Nifty Fifty'.

Hang on a minute. I'm married to a bloke over here. Don't get me started!!! :lol:

[20droger]

You must remember that it is our language and we have only lent it to you. It took us many centuries to fine-tune, but then you lot went and wrecked it in only five minutes by the introduction of 'Nifty Fifty'.
Not I, my British brother!

And I'm affraid the same thing has happened to the British language that has happened to the British navy. You've completely lost supremacy.

[Mum2J&M]

Not I, my British brother!

And I'm affraid the same thing has happened to the British language that has happened to the British navy. You've completely lost supremacy.

Uh oh. Not sure we need to go there... :confused:

[20droger]

You like that typo, do you? You must, since you cited it in red.

Well, keep looking. I'm sure you'll find many, especially left-handers.

My typing may—but only may—improve after my upcoming hand surgery. I make no promises.

[Mum2J&M]

What are you having surgery for?

[20droger]

Neuopathy causing partial paralysis of the little finger and the adjacent side of the ring finger on my left hand.

That is, the pinky doesn't work at all, and the ring finger is split up the middle with the pinky side not working and the other side working. The non-working finger-and-a-half have numbness, tingling, intermittant pain, and loss of flexibility.

The prognosis looks fair for full recovery, and good for at least partial recovery after surgery. Surgery is scheduled for late in December.

[Mum2J&M]

Eek. Doesn't sound like fun. Hope you get your feeling back and lose the pain. :(

[Mike-DT6]

Damn it! I went to bed and missed all that last night! :lol:

Got to go out in a minute, so no time for bickering. Maybe later though! :lol:

Hell Mum2J&M; haven't seen you around for a few days! :-D

Get well soon Roger and good luck with your operation. You'll have to find an Englishman afterwards and punch him in the head to test your new improved hand! :lol:

Mike

[Tandem]

You togs crack me up with all of your shorthand jargon.

:)

I use glass when I'm referring to someone's L lens(e) and it is prefaced with "sweet" or "mighty-fine" as in "That's some mighty-fine glass you've got there."

[Mum2J&M]

Damn it! I went to bed and missed all that last night! :lol:

Got to go out in a minute, so no time for bickering. Maybe later though! :lol:

Hell Mum2J&M; haven't seen you around for a few days! :-D

Get well soon Roger and good luck with your operation. You'll have to find an Englishman afterwards and punch him in the head to test your new improved hand! :lol:

Mike

Had to come back and give everyone I've pissed off here a run for their money. ;)

[Mike-DT6]

It's always worth the effort! :lol:

Mike

[JWright]

If all the OP has to worry about is whether we say "two-eight" instead of "two-point-eight" then he's a lot better off than the rest of us. Try serving in the military... It's laden with abbreviations, acronyms and slang.

[20droger]

Damn it! I went to bed and missed all that last night! :lol:

Got to go out in a minute, so no time for bickering. Maybe later though! :lol:

Hell Mum2J&M; haven't seen you around for a few days! :-D

Get well soon Roger and good luck with your operation. You'll have to find an Englishman afterwards and punch him in the head to test your new improved hand! :lol:

Mike
Now why would I wish to do that? Some of my most-loved friends happen to be English, a couple of Londoners, a Liverpuddlian, a Manchesterian, and even one from near Lands End. All salt of the Earth types, everyone. Into that you can add a couple of Scots and a Welshie, Brits, but not English.

Then, on the other hand, there's a Good Ol' Boy who lives down the road a piece that might make a good test subject. But that's a different story...

[20droger]

Had to come back and give everyone I've pissed off here a run for their money. ;)
And how are J and M doing these days?

[Mike-DT6]

Now why would I wish to do that? Some of my most-loved friends happen to be English, a couple of Londoners, a Liverpuddlian, a Manchesterian, and even one from near Lands End. All salt of the Earth types, everyone. Into that you can add a couple of Scots and a Welshie, Brits, but not English.

Then, on the other hand, there's a Good Ol' Boy who lives down the road a piece that might make a good test subject. But that's a different story...

Well, for a start the one from Liverpool would probably enjoy it! Good idea though; the local test subject might be a good idea first!

By the way, Liverpudlian has one 'd' and someone from Manchester is a Mancunian. ;-)

Mike

[queenbee288]

You guys do know that the "Nifty fifty" is f/1.4 and the "Thrifty fifty" is f/1.8? :lol:

That is what I thought too. Thanks for setting everybody straight.:rolleyes: He is a mod and you gotta listen.

I have reminded people of that but nobody pays any attention to what I say! So, one more time lets get it straight. 1.4 is nifty and 1.8 is thrifty. Repeat.

[queenbee288]

Only a single-digit percentage of the posters in these forums would have even a rudimentary grasp of the concept of "style," much less such obscure concepts as "grammar" and "punctuation."

Vitually all communication here is incidental, and most of it is accidental.

Do you have any idea how stuffy and pretentious that sounds?:confused:

Oh, I read further. You are BRITISH.

[20droger]

Well, for a start the one from Liverpool would probably enjoy it! Good idea though; the local test subject might be a good idea first!

By the way, Liverpudlian has one 'd' and someone from Manchester is a Mancunian. ;-)

Mike
"Liverpudlian" I can accept, but "Mancunian" is just wrong!

Who comes up with these? The guy who invented Worcestershire Sauce?

As the late, great Bernard Shaw once queried, how would you pronounce "ghoti"?

...

...

...

Wait for it...

...

...

...

"Fish": "gh" as in "laugh," "o" as in "women," and "ti" as in "station."

Ain''t English grand?

[20droger]

That is what I thought too. Thanks for setting everybody straight.:rolleyes: He is a mod and you gotta listen.

I have reminded people of that but nobody pays any attention to what I say! So, one more time lets get it straight. 1.4 is nifty and 1.8 is thrifty. Repeat.
No, I don't.

[S.Horton]

Umm, there's a slash in there, too. :confused:




;) :lol: :)

ROFL!

[20droger]

Do you have any idea how stuffy and pretentious that sounds?:confused:

Oh, I read further. You are BRITISH.
No I'm not.

I was born in California and live in Arizona. My forefathers (and foremothers) were all French, but I heartly disavow any Frenchness in my blood.

I am an American. A stuffy and pretentious one, perhaps, but an American.

[Mike-DT6]

Mancunian comes from the originally (incorrectly) believed Roman name for Manchester, which was (or wasn't!) Mancunium!

Mike

:-)

[WaltA]

Do you have any idea how stuffy and pretentious that sounds?:confused:

Oh, I read further. You are BRITISH.

Even for a Brit thats pretty elitist :cry:

Maybe a wanna-be Brit

[Mike-DT6]

I am an American. A stuffy and pretentious one, perhaps, but an American.

Your country gets its name from a Welshman (Richard Americk)!:-)

[WaltA]

Your country gets its name from a Welshman (Richard Americk)!:-)

I thought it was Amerigo Vespucci - an Italian.

[Mike-DT6]

I prefer the Richard Americk story! :lol:

[20droger]

Your country gets its name from a Welshman (Richard Americk)!:-)
So? Yours gets its name from a group of Germanic fishermen. Big whoop!

And it was Amerigo, not Americk, unless, of course, you're a British Revisionist.

[Mike-DT6]

So? Yours gets its name from a group of Germanic fishermen. Big whoop!

And it was Amerigo, not Americk, unless, of course, you're a British Revisionist.

The Americk story holds more water than the Amerigo one. Ever seen what is on the Americk family coat of arms?

[BestVisuals]

That particular lens should be called "Shi**y Fifty", at least the lens I tested. 100% plastic, smeared images wide open, poor edge sharpness, didn't get even close to sharp until f/8 or f/11.

You've got it easy. You only get annoyed by that one when you hear people say it. I have to endure the idiom 'Nifty Fifty' in both written and spoken forms.

Mike

:lol:

[Mike-DT6]

That would be preferable! :-D

[Mum2J&M]

This is so not about England v the US. My dh deplores England and I was on my way to moving there when we met. Weird twist of fate I guess. Let's not forget there are loads of Brits over here and loads of Americans over there. Some speak/write horrible English, others speak/write it very well. Maybe I'm just reading too much into this thread, but you can't define an entire country by one personality.

[Roy Mathers]

This is so not about England v the US. My dh deplores England and I was on my way to moving there when we met. Weird twist of fate I guess. Let's not forget there are loads of Brits over here and loads of Americans over there. Some speak/write horrible English, others speak/write it very well. Maybe I'm just reading too much into this thread, but you can't define an entire country by one personality.

What does 'dh' mean - and why does he/she deplore England?

[Mum2J&M]

dh means "dear husband". Sorry for the lingo. He doesn't like it because he feels it's dreary and dismal. I don't really want to say the wrong thing, or use the wrong words. I'm not sure exactly what it is that bugs him so much. I agree it's pretty damn expensive and can be not so great weather-wise. But that could be anyplace. There could be more to it than that. Hard for me to say, really, as I've never actually lived there. He also left back in '88, so maybe things aren't as bad as he remembers, etc. Who knows... I look forward to our infrequent trips over there to see his family. It's a friggin long haul for us, but I like it when the kids can see where some of their roots are.

[Mike-DT6]

This is so not about England v the US.

I was under the impression this was us all having a joke together. That's how I've been approaching it anyway! If anyone has found the UK vs. US element of this thread annoying, then they've missed the joke! :lol:Mike

[Mike-DT6]

dh means dear husband.

I wondered what that meant as well. I presumed it stood for dried halibut, but was confused by the fact that your particular dried halibut held an opinion of any sort. My experience of them is that they are, at best, terrible conversationalists.

Mike

:lol:

[tonylong]

I wondered what that meant as well. I presumed it stood for dried halibut, but was confused by the fact that your particular dried halibut held an opinion of any sort. My experience of them is that they are, at best, terrible conversationalists.

Mike

:lol:

Now that got a chuckle out of me -- why didn't I think of that? Dried halibuts are so excruciating in that way! Not to generalize in a discriminating way, of course...if there are any Dry Halibuts reading this and taking offence, well, it's all a joke you know:)!

[Mike-DT6]

They aren't nearly as bad as festering mackerel. Their attitude stinks!

:-D

[20droger]

So, "dear husband" has deteriorated to a simple "dh"?

Reminds me of a sergeant I knew who always called his wife "Bug." Originally, it was "Lovebug," but somehow got shortened over the years. The "Love" seems to have just faded away....

And a friend in Liverpool used to always ask about our weather in Claifornia (at the time), which was mostly sunny. His weather was mostly dreary and miserable. When I accused him of never having any decent weather, he said, "That's not true! We have several nice days a year!"

[WaltA]

..... Not to generalize in a discriminating way, of course...if there are any Dry Halibuts reading this and taking offence, well, it's all a joke you know:)!


So Tony, would that be indescriminate descrimination? :eek:

[Mum2J&M]

So, "dear husband" has deteriorated to a simple "dh"?

Reminds me of a sergeant I knew who always called his wife "Bug." Originally, it was "Lovebug," but somehow got shortened over the years. The "Love" seems to have just faded away....

And a friend in Liverpool used to always ask about our weather in Claifornia (at the time), which was mostly sunny. His weather was mostly dreary and miserable. When I accused him of never having any decent weather, he said, "That's not true! We have several nice days a year!"

Actually, there wasn't one day of rain during my last visit. New England weather can suck a lot more than England weather.

[the_incubus]

i hate it when people write 42 months old as their childs age. They are 3 1/2 years old! People dont go around saying there 412 months old do they?

[20droger]

Actually, there wasn't one day of rain during my last visit. New England weather can suck a lot more than England weather.
When did NC become a part of New England?

[Mum2J&M]

When did NC become a part of New England?

Woops - forgot to mention I lived in Boston for 20 years. Come on, didn't you know that about me? :p

[20droger]

Woops - forgot to mention I lived in Boston for 20 years. Come on, didn't you know that about me? :p
Let's see, what do I know about you....

Well, I have a vague suspicion that you're female and, unless the photos were fakes, J & M are good lookin' kids.

I believe I'm a lot older than you. But I have compensation for that. My wife loves me as I am.

That about sums it up.

[Mum2J&M]

Let's see, what do I know about you....

Well, I have a vague suspicion that you're female and, unless the photos were fakes, J & M are good lookin' kids.

I believe I'm a lot older than you. But I have compensation for that. My wife loves me as I am.

That about sums it up.

Yep - female. And thanks. The kids were lucky to get their Father's genes. And I'll plead the Fifth on the age thing.

[20droger]

Yep - female. And thanks. The kids were lucky to get their Father's genes. And I'll plead the Fifth on the age thing.
Only half the genes come from him. If they got his looks, then they must have your brains and creativity.

Stephen Hawking is not Mr. Universe, and Brad Pitt is no brain surgeon.