So, who else is done with finals?

[AirBrontosaurus]

Byaaah! All my tests are done! I get to enjoy about 4 weeks of learning absolutely nothing! ;)

So, who else is done? College, high school, middle school (if they have finals in middle school)?

[DVS_WiNdz]

Lucky you, I still have 3 finals next week :(

[scotteisenphotography]

2 more tomorrow, and then i'm done, depending if classes are cancelled due to this horrible weather

[Chandler.]

I am a high school senior, but I just finished an online English 101 class this week. No more English for the rest of high school. :)

Chris, if I recall correctly, you rewarded yourself last year with a MP-E 65mm. Do you plan on any rewards this time around?

[gary88]

I finished my finals in mid November. And I actually only had 1 real final test, the rest were just final papers I had to write. Since we're on the quarter system I've been on break ever since, and have to go back on January 2nd.

[the_incubus]

nah but i have a huge trig. test tomorrow and i have no idea how to do any of it. :(

[tin.risky]

Lucky you. I've got two more next week and then I'm done until the end of January.

[Ultimate CC]

Just finished my first semester for Vet school, it was killer but its so nice to be done...i had wednes, fri, mon, tues, wednes, thurs test, all 3 hour+ exams...hardest week and half of school I have ever had...

[MDJAK]

Just finished my first semester for Vet school, it was killer but its so nice to be done...i had wednes, fri, mon, tues, wednes, thurs test, all 3 hour+ exams...hardest week and half of school I have ever had...

Where do you go? My daughter's dream is to become a vet. She's only 16, but she's working as an assistant in a big 24/7 animal hospital and absolutely loves it. How many vet schools are there in the US, do you know? Is it, as rumored, harder to get into vet school than medical school?

What were your grades and SAT scores?

If you mind answering these questions, that's okay, I'll just have you banned. ;) ;) ;) (jk)

Oh, and as to finals, whew, I finished my last one back in January of 1977. It was a killer. :lol:
me

[perryge]

I have 3 left on monday and tuesday. Then it's off home to Hong Kong for some gear shopping :D!

[the_incubus]

Where do you go? My daughter's dream is to become a vet. She's only 16, but she's working as an assistant in a big 24/7 animal hospital and absolutely loves it. How many vet schools are there in the US, do you know? Is it, as rumored, harder to get into vet school than medical school?

What were your grades and SAT scores?

If you mind answering these questions, that's okay, I'll just have you banned. ;) ;) ;) (jk)

Oh, and as to finals, whew, I finished my last one back in January of 1977. It was a killer. :lol:
me

Its alright Mark, its not your fault youre so old :D (jk)

[timbernet]

One major final tomorrow and one other final which I can sleep through and pass :-D

[codex0]

I have no finals :)

Only one paper to turn in tomorrow. All my photo and metalworking assignments are turned in.

[Ultimate CC]

Where do you go? My daughter's dream is to become a vet. She's only 16, but she's working as an assistant in a big 24/7 animal hospital and absolutely loves it. How many vet schools are there in the US, do you know? Is it, as rumored, harder to get into vet school than medical school?

What were your grades and SAT scores?

If you mind answering these questions, that's okay, I'll just have you banned. ;) ;) ;) (jk)

Oh, and as to finals, whew, I finished my last one back in January of 1977. It was a killer. :lol:
me
I go to Ross University in St Kitts...which will actually be accredited shortly from the looks of things. Which will be awesome because then you won't have to take an exam to practice in the states. There are about 18 in the states and about 5 outside of US that are worth going to with Ross and UPEI (canada) being the two best. The problem with vet school is there are so many people applying and so few schools with so few spots...5000+ apply to each school for 60-80 spots available...So it makes it very very competitive to get into schools...best advice is to ace school (if you can) and apply to undergrad at a school where the vet schools rank highest...I actually called a few vet schools and told them what schools I had gotten into and went to the one they chose the most. It will all help when you go to apply for the vet school...I got a 1340 on sat but that was the old scaling (they have since redone it from what I know) and gpa was about a 3.4 with a bio major, chem and comp sci minor...

PM me if you have any specific questions so we don't take over this thread...

[zacker]

i finished mine in 1983 lol

[AirBrontosaurus]

Chris, if I recall correctly, you rewarded yourself last year with a MP-E 65mm. Do you plan on any rewards this time around?

Good memory! However, the real reason I rewarded myself was for my 4.0, including an A in Calculus (which was pretty much the greatest accomplishment of my life).

This semester... I sure won't be getting a 4.0 :oops:. I did just trade my Peleng for an 85mm f/1.8, and I recently bought a 24-105mm L for myself for Christmas, so I suppose that's reward enough ;).

[Chandler.]

Good memory! However, the real reason I rewarded myself was for my 4.0, including an A in Calculus (which was pretty much the greatest accomplishment of my life).

After failing it in high school, right? That's me with physics right now. Maybe I'll become committed to it in college and ace the class.

...maybe not.

[SoaringUSAEagle]

Finished up yesterday! On break until Jan 8 now.

[carianoff]

I finished teaching my last class of the semester if that counts. :P

[stephaniebarnes]

I had one Monday, which was more like three short papers done in class. Two on Tuesday, which I'm pretty sure I failed the second one, if not that the class I probably failed. And then an optional one tomorrow/Friday, 80 q's, fill in the blank but open book. If I take it there's a very likely chance it'll bump my grade up a letter but then again I have sooo much to do before tomorrow afternoon. So I don't know. lol

[AirBrontosaurus]

After failing it in high school, right? That's me with physics right now. Maybe I'll become committed to it in college and ace the class.

...maybe not.

Lol... believe it or not, it actually may happen that way. My HS calc teacher was absolutely terrible, but I thought I was the problem. I was dreading taking calc in college so much, but it ended up that all I needed was a competent teacher.

What part of physics don't you like? I've always been fascinated by physics, but then again I am a huge nerd. I also had without a doubt the greatest physics teacher in the world in high school, which I'm sure helped a lot.

My advice to you: Make sure your future physics prof knows your name, and knows you're trying to improve. You would be surprised how many profs will give out A's to students who simply make a genuine effort to do the work. Go to office hours, send an e-mail here and there, and it can really make a difference.

Also, recitation is your friend ;).

[AirBrontosaurus]

Finished up yesterday! On break until Jan 8 now.

Awesome! I really needed this, after my 20-hour math study binge.

I finished teaching my last class of the semester if that counts. :P


Of course it counts! Both my parents are teacher (mom in elementary school, dad a college math professor), so I know the kind of stress you can get from teaching during the last few weeks. Congratulations!


I had one Monday, which was more like three short papers done in class. Two on Tuesday, which I'm pretty sure I failed the second one, if not that the class I probably failed. And then an optional one tomorrow/Friday, 80 q's, fill in the blank but open book. If I take it there's a very likely chance it'll bump my grade up a letter but then again I have sooo much to do before tomorrow afternoon. So I don't know. lol

An option final? Ouch... that's a toughie.

[Chandler.]

What part of physics don't you like? I've always been fascinated by physics, but then again I am a huge nerd. I also had without a doubt the greatest physics teacher in the world in high school, which I'm sure helped a lot.

I find physics very interesting. I actually enjoy the lectures. My teacher has won many awards for excellence, and has taught at all levels, even at universities. He is not the problem.

make a genuine effort to do the work.

That is the problem. I need to become more motivated.

[blueM]

Closing in on 58, the only test I have to think about is to renew my drivers' license. :)

[Charles Richards]

Where do you go? My daughter's dream is to become a vet. She's only 16, but she's working as an assistant in a big 24/7 animal hospital and absolutely loves it. How many vet schools are there in the US, do you know? Is it, as rumored, harder to get into vet school than medical school?


It's quite a distance from NY, but Iowa State has an excellent and well recognized veterinary program. They also will be finishing up some large multi-million dollar renovations to their main building on campus within a year :)
check it: http://www.vetmed.iastate.edu/

As for finals ... well I finished my last one yesterday :lol:
I've only got one semester of college left ... then it's out into this "real world" to get a "job" :p

[SoaringUSAEagle]

Where do you go? My daughter's dream is to become a vet. She's only 16, but she's working as an assistant in a big 24/7 animal hospital and absolutely loves it. How many vet schools are there in the US, do you know? Is it, as rumored, harder to get into vet school than medical school?

What were your grades and SAT scores?

If you mind answering these questions, that's okay, I'll just have you banned. ;) ;) ;) (jk)

Oh, and as to finals, whew, I finished my last one back in January of 1977. It was a killer. :lol:
me

Send her out to the bel-rea institute. It is about 5 miles or so from my house, maybe even less.... but there are always commercials about it.

www.bel-rea.com I know this is halfway across the country, but I just wanted to throw that out there. There's also CSU in Ft. Collins (About 70 miles north of Denver) that has a good vet degree too.

[Mike McCusker]

Where do you go? My daughter's dream is to become a vet. She's only 16, but she's working as an assistant in a big 24/7 animal hospital and absolutely loves it. How many vet schools are there in the US, do you know? Is it, as rumored, harder to get into vet school than medical school?

What were your grades and SAT scores?

If you mind answering these questions, that's okay, I'll just have you banned. ;) ;) ;) (jk)

Oh, and as to finals, whew, I finished my last one back in January of 1977. It was a killer. :lol:
me

MDJAK,

Virginia Tech is reputed to have one of the best Vet schools on the East coast.

[JimAskew]

Byaaah! All my tests are done! I get to enjoy about 4 weeks of learning absolutely nothing! ;)

So, who else is done? College, high school, middle school (if they have finals in middle school)?

I finished my last final in November 1973 ;)

[SoaringUSAEagle]

I finished my last final in November 1973 ;)

Talk about aging yourself lol. ;)

[jklewer]

I just finished 4.5 years of college. Only 1 more to go before graduation! It did feel good to file my grad check yesterday though...

[JimAskew]

Talk about aging yourself lol. ;)

Just as is a fine whisky...aged is best :D

[deadpass]

i've been done since monday, woo!

[slappy sam]

Eh, I got one more final on monday. I kinda wanna be off now and be able to ski this weekend with my friends, but we are going to canada tues - fri to ski and party basically, so that should be fun :D

[crazyskillz07]

I more 4 page paper to hand in and Im done...

[rklepper]

Lucky you, I still have 3 finals next week :(

Hey me to. I have to GIVE 3 finals on Monday. Wow final exams are really stressful for profs.:D

[GM_of_OLC]

I finished yesterday and am done until Jan 7th.
At which point I will traverse Spain for three weeks before resuming real class.
Ahh, the joys of Jan term.

[modemanual]

Hooray, a messed up schedule for next week, at least school gets out at 12, hope the buses wont screw up again...

[Alex_H]

I have one final on Tuesday and I'm going home on Wednesday. I'm taking next semester off to work on my depression and take classes at a community college. :(

[condyk]

Well done all you stoodents ... hope it all goes well for y'all whether you have finished or still got more to come.

[Tony-S]

Byaaah! All my tests are done! I get to enjoy about 4 weeks of learning absolutely nothing! ;)

So, who else is done? College, high school, middle school (if they have finals in middle school)?

Mine are. Had a final in my graduate research design course. I turned in my grades on Tuesday. Had a great group of students this year - no one failed.

[Canuck]

It is a good feeling to be free again...for now.

cout << "rant = on!!" << endl;
I finished a C++ programming class (which can burn in hell forever/1 way trip to the sun), a College Algebra class (see C++ thought), an English 100 class (my favourite of all) and a Networking 100 class (a real joke...I about slept thru 4 chapters, took a test cold turkey and got an 87). I also have 63 transfer credits that are doing me no good a the college I went to. I'm finding for the most part, I have a lot of technical stuff knocked out, jsut the liberal arts crap that this state requires you to take for the "well rounding" ideology. I say that it can be thrown out. I took a sociology class when I was in England and that goes down there with C++. Whatever happened to being autodidactic? I am autodidactic in photography. I know the need for effective communication, that can't be underestimated. This documenting in MLA, ugh talk about a hassle. That wasn't used when I went thru high school some time ago. I really enjoy physics but the math to me is totally illogical the way it is taught. They should dump the "math course" and teach it side by side with physics so you can see how it merges. One without the other seems to me to be exceedingly pointless. These weird, abstract thinking processes are overrated, but then again, I was out in the "real world" for 9 yrs and I'll be incredibly amazed if I ever needed (read: never used) to use imaginary numbers, complex fractions, asymtopes, irrational numbers, and so on. This is really a childish way for you to hold back what could be some of the greatest minds to think outside the box, but academia has it's head so far (somewhere)...it can't see light. While it's true I plan to go EE or something similar, I don't think you need better than half the math they teach you other than for the class. Throw it out. I essentially wasted about $2,000 on this hideous lack of education system we have here and I am livid!
cout << "rant = off!" << endl;

See who catches that or not.

Mind you I have a ton of skills, just not in this lame academia setting.

[Hattrik21]

My wife just finished her finals on Wednesday and is now graduated. I'm so proud of her!

[Jayson Prentice]

I finished up my finals on Thursday, only 3 more semesters to go! Only know two of my grades thus far, an A in Intro to Earth (Geology 100) and an A- in Statistics. Still have the rest of my grades that won't be in until Tuesday/Wednesday, those classes include my Atmospheric Physics, Synoptic Meteorology and Watershed Hydrology/Surficial Processes.

[Skrim17]

I'm pretty sure here in the NY area Cornell has a very competitive vet program.

[Tony-S]

This is really a childish way for you to hold back what could be some of the greatest minds to think outside the box, but academia has it's head so far (somewhere)...it can't see light.

I didn't know higher ed was so bad in Canada. Perhaps you should have moved to the U. S.

While it's true I plan to go EE or something similar, I don't think you need better than half the math they teach you other than for the class. Throw it out. I essentially wasted about $2,000 on this hideous lack of education system we have here and I am livid!
cout << "rant = off!" << endl;

Most people end up working in fields for which they received little training during their educational years. A lot of factors go into this, including job dissatisfaction, family (e.g., children), etc. But the most significant factor is the changing economy. No one can predict how the economy - where jobs will be, what will be the driving sectors, etc. - 10 years from now, let alone 20 or 30 years from now. If you're well-prepared for such changes, which a good undergraduate liberal arts education should provide you, then you'll likely be fine. If you lack such preparedness, times will be tougher for you. Perhaps one day you'll be glad you had some of that other half of the math that you thought was superfluous. There may be some new innovation occurring right now using that math, but it won't become technologically-relevant for 10 or 20 years. If so, then you'll be glad you were exposed to it.

Mind you I have a ton of skills, just not in this lame academia setting.

This "lame" academic setting is responsible for the majority of technological innovation in the world. You may not realize that, but it's absolutely true. Without basic research, there would be no applied research. There are few companies in the world that will conduct basic research because it is high-risk; and that's not something shareholders like to see. Thus, and rightfully so, it is academia (and its surrogate, the national interest) that does the basic research. Besides, it's a lot easier to get a job in the private sector than in higher ed.

[Canuck]

I am in the US, near the Canadian border and I sound closer to Canadian than American. Back when I was over in England, the British thought I was Canadian and that's when I joined this forum, back in May-ish, 2003. I was living in Cambridgeshire near Ely at that time. Hence the name Canuck. Not to mention I am a huge hockey fan...been following it since 1983-1984. Speaking of that, the avatar is the logo of the now defunct Quebec Nordiques, now known as the Colorado Avalanche which I have faithfully followed thru the present. In summer of 1995 they moved to Denver and the rest is history.

As to education, perhaps it is better if you go straight out of high school into college. I didn't. I had a job that allowed me to travel a little over half way aroung the world. That was cool in and of itself, including 3 years in England and 2 years in Alaska. I feel that I have much more relevant skills and that the education system is like taking 100 steps back. Um, I was already doing stuff that lays this education system to waste at age 19/20. I was working on multi-million dollar airplanes at 19. I got to work an airplane that no one knows what it is worth after the many iterations at age 23. Believe you me, that I have these logical step by step thinking processes. I have to say the method of delivery also leaves a lot to be desired too. I learn best hands on/discussing stuff, not sitting in a class where my mind drifts in and out. This should be student based, not teacher based. All in all I've been around 30+ different airframes and have 11 with serious experience on (18 months to 3+ years). The other thing that irks the living crap out of me is that employers would rather see that piece of paper than the real world experience. If I have someone that has the experience and can back it up, the person with the piece of paper doesn't get the job in my book. This job will take several years to get spun up on...then there is more stuff to learn on the fly as technology evolves. This is not something you want to have "well we thing X will do ok, because they have the piece of paper" kinda deal. I've seen all too often the problems with engineers that are not thinking ahead to those that will have to maintain the airframe. I have plenty to tell there! That piece of paper doesn't mean you're smart...merely hacked thru a system that is long overdue for an overhaul. Teach me what I might realistically need and thru the extraneous junk out...social science, humanities, etc and keep it on the core material you really need and are truly interested in, not just to check a box and justify some flunky job. This is like my maths teacher that was there for play money and when asked if he's ever used it outside the class, he said unequivocally, "Never!" Yes, the sociology teacher took an entire 3 hr class to chew out this lack of education system in the US over in England. That was amusing to say the least. Mind you he has a PhD in political sociology. I don't buy into the dogmatic drivle that is perpetuated at college. In case you are interested, the sociology teacher taught at UMUC, the maths teacher is at a local community college. The other thing is that why can't they teach more of what you will need and less garbage? I doubt solving a complex fraction will be of much use outside the classroom. Same to imaginary numbers, adding, multiplying, dividing, etc. Oh, yes, finding roots of an equation that they pulled out of the air...that's a good one. I just want to see how it is used, and if it's legitimately useful, fine. I took thru 11th grade maths in high school. Know how much I used? None of it. It was an egregious waste of time. That's my concern this go around too...learn all this math and never use it. Sounds like a great place to drop an axe. Matter of fact, that is one of my big problems with college.

[Jayson Prentice]

I have a few similar things with my degree, I go through 4 semesters worth of calculus and 2 semesters with of calc-based physics. How often will I likely use them once outside of college? Not very likely I'll use them at all in what I want to do, but for others in the same program, they may use those quite a bit. And I'm going to have to believe the same thing in your program in whatever you are doing (engineering of some kind I believe?) at your school. The program isn't designed for you as an individual, it is designed to where everybody that has that background can go out and get so many other types of jobs that may need some of the stuff that you are required to take and others you may not have to see the likes of a math equation ever again!

If an employer wants that piece of paper to say that you can 'hack' your way through classes, then that is their choice. I go through taking all of the elective stuff as well, taking a history class and a class on native americans, etc. Will I ever need that knowledge, nope, not a chance. But is it something that you should probably take? Possibly...

I guess the reasoning behind why you think the education system is crap just kind of gets me. If you don't think it is worth it, then don't do it! I see plenty of people working without degrees, but when they run into that employer that wants that degree they sure aren't going to have a change at that job. And if you ever use one thing that you were taught while in college once you get out into the workforce again, then I think that your college years' were successful.

[Tony-S]

Speaking of that, the avatar is the logo of the now defunct Quebec Nordiques, now known as the Colorado Avalanche which I have faithfully followed thru the present. In summer of 1995 they moved to Denver and the rest is history.

And we here in Colorado appreciate it.

As to education, perhaps it is better if you go straight out of high school into college. I didn't. I had a job that allowed me to travel a little over half way aroung the world. That was cool in and of itself, including 3 years in England and 2 years in Alaska. I feel that I have much more relevant skills and that the education system is like taking 100 steps back. Um, I was already doing stuff that lays this education system to waste at age 19/20. I was working on multi-million dollar airplanes at 19. I got to work an airplane that no one knows what it is worth after the many iterations at age 23.

Sounds like you're former military?

Believe you me, that I have these logical step by step thinking processes. I have to say the method of delivery also leaves a lot to be desired too.

Perhaps you should consider a career in education, since you have such good ideas.

I learn best hands on/discussing stuff, not sitting in a class where my mind drifts in and out. This should be student based, not teacher based.

Here's where reality comes in. There are students who learn best "hands on", while there are other students who learn best in a "traditional" environment. There are other "types" of students as well. But the simple fact is, the accumulation of knowledge has accelerated for centuries, but the capacity of a human being to learn has not changed at all. A university education should give you the theoretical and fundamental skills for the subject at hand so that you can learn how Company X does things and have a good chance at resolving unexpected problems. You're not enrolled in "Airframe U" - universities cannot perform the "training" you think we should give you; it would be prohibitively expensive and beyond the scope of the degree. You should also realize that just because you might think something is useless, it might not be to other students or even at some future date for you.

My students love PowerPoint lectures better than traditional lectures (because they don't have to "take notes"). What most of them don't realize is that I can cover a lot more material with PowerPoint than I can in traditional lectures. Do you know what this has done to my curves? I now have bimodal curves in almost every course I teach. The "good" students get more information and are more competitive upon graduation, while the "bad" students fall behind. My bell-shaped curves have split into two. This occurs every semester, in every class. Ten years ago it didn't happen - now it does. Should I "dummy down" the course for those "bad" students, and penalize the "good" ones? Not on your life, I won't. Until states start funding higher ed like they used to, you're going to have classrooms of 150 students or more. Until classroom sizes get smaller, then you'll continue to see this. If you want to complain to someone, then complain to your state legislature about inadequate funding to staff classrooms.

The other thing that irks the living crap out of me is that employers would rather see that piece of paper than the real world experience.

There are reasons for that. Every company has its own.

Teach me what I might realistically need and thru the extraneous junk out...social science, humanities, etc and keep it on the core material you really need and are truly interested in, not just to check a box and justify some flunky job.

But that's not what a university education is about. It is about universal education, that is the derivation of the word. You ought to read The Idea of the University by John Henry Newman. If you want "technical training" then go to a trade school, not a university.

[///M3Matt]

I have my contracts final tomorrow & then I get 19 days of freedom to finally do some photography. :)

[Canuck]

Tony-S, No, changing the system is like perverbially fighting city hall. It seems that change is bad. I think they should make good on this gained knowledge. The part that really gets me is that I learned more in the 3 years stint in England than I have in high school and college combined! Granted, I have had a facination with England since my early teens and going htere and seeing it first hand was the best time so far. I have a million great ideas. Does that mean anything? That and about $2.50 will get me a ride on the NYC Subway last time I was there in 2004. Ok, so I managed a D in C++. I would be thrilled if they got rid of that requirement for all, lest you are going to be a computer programmer. This is the only experience I have had with it and suffice it to say, it is a lousy language and not for the first language you learn either. I would rather play russian roulette with a high paying job on whether or not I need to know C++. Ok, so I don't know it, fire me. I can deal that. Unfortunately I am going to have to retake it or find another degree programme that doesn't require it, or be a bum. The latter is looking like the most likely option.

I've hijacked this thread it seems, shall we continue this in another thread?

[Collin85]

Just finished another year at university. As an aspiring mathematician, studying isn't such an issue for me. Infact, I'll pretty much be studying and working on my articles throughout my 3 month break too (in other words, 6 or so hours of math every day), minus the days I go out to shoot.

[Canuck]

It seems that I disagree with the vast majority here on the (lack of) education system. I will go back to my table and shut up and colour.

[gary88]

Bah, I'm so used to being on break now, it will be hard going back to school on January 3.

At least Chicago has tons of good photo opportunities :evil:

[Tony-S]

It seems that I disagree with the vast majority here on the (lack of) education system. I will go back to my table and shut up and colour.

No; seriously. You should think about about a career in education. If everyone thinks the same, then innovation becomes more challenging. We new a few burrs in our sides from the minority opinion (that's why we have tenure, after all). Competition of ideas is good. You just have to be able to defend your position, that's all.

Of course, you'll have to learn how to spell "color" correctly. You've been hanging out with too many Canadians. :)

[Canuck]

No; seriously. You should think about about a career in education. If everyone thinks the same, then innovation becomes more challenging. We new a few burrs in our sides from the minority opinion (that's why we have tenure, after all). Competition of ideas is good. You just have to be able to defend your position, that's all.

Of course, you'll have to learn how to spell "color" correctly. You've been hanging out with too many Canadians. :)

Colour, huh, or should I say color, that and spending 3 yrs in the UK. Gaining support for an alternative education programme might be challenging. It's something to think about. I have been thinking on and off about how to do. I must say the British have it a lot better, they keep you on a narrow focus, but the education elements are much more intense. It is worth trying that out, a much more focused, but intense education. It's really not that useful, but I have a grip on the history of the UK from the beginnings to about the end of the British Civil War/Gunpowder Plot/Olliver Cromwell. I must say my favourite times are the dark ages and mediaeval England (Battle of 1066 thru the late 1400s and the War of the Roses/Battle of Tewkesbury.) I've felt that since leaving the UK, something is missing. Those were the best days of my life so far. It would be great to get back over there, but alas, this juncture that is wholly impossible. The £1 = $2.06+ depending on where you go. BTW, if you hold Alt key, press 156 then let go you get a £. Maybe I should get a degree in British history then teach it? LOL! I know of someone that has a PhD that did that. That was on monasteries and their estate. One of my favourite shows was Time Team, although mostly archeology it's still history. That's fascinating. Anyhow, that's talk for another time.

[tin.risky]

My last final and paper due tomorrow. Wish me luck guys. Crunch time.

[Chandler.]

Well, my Christmas break started a couple hours early today when someone called in a bomb threat and we all had to evacuate. School was closed, so that means break for us. :)

[perryge]

Finished today! Off to Hong Kong in an hour!

[Cybnew]

One more left tomorrow!