Rebel quality

[retro]

It seems to me that the pictures taken with the Rebel are a tad bit "softer" then that of the 10D. Is this a coincidence? Is it just better picture taking? Is it lenses? Or could it be post processing? I have a Rebel and am learning to use it quickly. Are there any mods or hacks I could do that are recommended?

[blinking8s]

shoot raw and process it yourself ;)

[DocFrankenstein]

What lenses are you using? The kit ones?

[retro]

I am using the kit lens. I know there are many better possibilities, but it is overwhelming when going to buy a lens. I am eager to learn all of the benefits of this and that lens.

[defordphoto]

There are many variables. Lenses, camera settings, the particular camera itself. Just because a photo comes out of a particular camera "soft" does not make it a bad camera.

The MKII is also on the soft side, but you can take an MKII photo and sharpen it several times more than you ever could with a 10D, 1D or Drebel file. Each camera model has its own personality and requires different post-processing

And, not ALL photos need to be razor sharp and many photos look much better without being sharpened, depending on subject matter of course.

[robertwgross]

I would make the over-generalization that the average 10D owner uses better lenses than the average Digital Rebel owner. Since some of the camera internals and sensor are very similar between the two cameras, that leaves two main things that will affect the sharpness of the images... the lens and the operator.

---Bob Gross---

[retro]

Well that is good to hear. I was making that generalization myself, but appreciate you confirming it for me. I want to amass lenses and take over the world....and then post process it of course :wink:

[HJMinard]

It seems to me that the pictures taken with the Rebel are a tad bit "softer" then that of the 10D. Is this a coincidence? Is it just better picture taking? Is it lenses? Or could it be post processing? I have a Rebel and am learning to use it quickly. Are there any mods or hacks I could do that are recommended?

The DRebel and 10D image capabilities are nearly identical. The 10D has some advantages (some of which can be matched via the DRebel hack firmware), but image quality - under most circumstances - is not one of them. I'd say the 10D advantages can help to achieve a greater percentage rate of "keepers", but when you get the shot right with the DRebel ... its just as good.

Perhaps you're comparing DRebel shots taken with the kit lens to 10D shots taken with a 17-40/4L or 70-200L, etc. No comparison - but the advantage is in the glass.

(Addendum: I see that everybody else beat me to it. Day late ...)

[HJMinard]

I am eager to learn all of the benefits of this and that lens.

Just keep reading the threads of this forum. You'll see the best lenses, and the ones just a notch below, discussed and mentioned and repeated over and over. Also keep an eye on member signatures for the lenses they own. You'll get great advice here.

[stevelew]

The 10D and the 300D are almost identical in quality if you use the same lens. If you compared an identical shot using a kit lens vs a similar Canon L lens like a 17-40L you will see a difference in sharpness and contrast.

I would try shooting with better lens on your camera and you'll see the difference. The kit lens isn't bad for the price ($100) but once you work with USM and some L lens you probably won't shoot with anything else. The 17-40 is a cheap L lens (price wise) and one of my favorite grab and shoot lens. However my favorite lens all around lens is the 70-200 IS 2.8. and very sharp. Super Bokeh.

Best of luck and shoot lots. :)

10D/85 1.8/17-40L/24-70L/70-200 IS 2.8L

[Andy_T]

Have you seen this thread?

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=38424&highlight=stopping

It might explain some of what you see...

Best regards,
Andy

[DocFrankenstein]

I am using the kit lens. I know there are many better possibilities, but it is overwhelming when going to buy a lens. I am eager to learn all of the benefits of this and that lens.

The kit lens would explain why your pics are soft. (the kit lens sucks) You have to stop it down to f/8 f/11 to get something decent out of it.

Get the 50mm cheapo. (f/1.8) The optics are fine on it and you'll see how sharp your camera can be.

[Ogrt48]

The kit lens is only as good as the user, maybe thats the problem. It's far from bad. http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1031&message=10246215 Yes, forgive me from going to that forum.. I have sinned

[Seveneer]

The kit lens is only as good as the user, maybe thats the problem. It's far from bad.

I agree. I had some sharp shots from the kit lens when I was using my 300D. I also had a lot of "soft" shots which I would put down to my inexperience and camera shake. :wink:

/Phil.