thanks to Mitch...

[nwyman]

for the excellent tutorial on sharpening. I have CS3, but it seems to work just as well.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2154/2119593688_d62dd47b81_o.jpg


and

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2151/2119587822_bd4645009e_o.jpg

[hTr]

Well Done Nancy

[bromm]

Very nice!

[canonloader]

Nice shots Nancy. Cute little House Finch. :)

[nwyman]

Nice shots Nancy. Cute little House Finch. :)

Thanks for all the feedback!


cold little house finch - she was totally disgusted.

Only part I don't understand on the tutorial - why do the editing on a .jpeg? I was under the impression one should work on a .Tif, or the CR2 file and change to .jpeg as the last thing?

[canonloader]

Which tutorial are you talking about? I thought you meant the sharpening one I did today? :)

But, there are two operations. Shoot in RAW, then edit the RAW for Temperature [white balance], Exposure, Brightness, Shadows, Contrast and the Curve tool when you get some practice. Export to jpg, then edit crop and resize, then if I need to , I edit the Shadows and Highlights. I hate to, but sometimes to save an image, ya just gotta. Then I use NeatImage if I need to and last is the sharpening and Save As. :)

[nwyman]

Which tutorial are you talking about? I thought you meant the sharpening one I did today? :)

that was the one I meant.


<But, there are two operations. Shoot in RAW, then edit the RAW for Temperature [white balance], Exposure, Brightness, Shadows, Contrast and the Curve tool when you get some practice. Export to jpg, then edit crop and resize, then if I need to , I edit the Shadows and Highlights. I hate to, but sometimes to save an image, ya just gotta. Then I use NeatImage if I need to and last is the sharpening and Save As. :)

I understood that - and that's what I was questioning.
A few years ago, I took a very introductory photo class at the local community college - and the instructor insisted that all editing be done before the image was saved to .jpeg.
He even said that if you shot in .jpeg, you should convert the file to a .Tif before doing post-processing. Once you had all the editing done, you could convert to .jpeg.
The instructor was using Elements 3.0 at the time, so maybe things are different now?
Back then, the camera I was using didn't have RAW capability, so maybe that is the difference?

[canonloader]

The only thing I can think of why he said that, is because a jpg is a lossey file format. Every time you save it, it loses some quality, never to get it back. But, working on it in CS2 or 3 isn't the same as saving it. You only save it once, when your done.

Here is a great explanation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_file_format) of the image formats and some examples, about 1/3 down, under the "Lossy compression" sub heading where the two pics are. Read the italics text below the images. It explains it very well and shows it when you open them full size. :)

But, a tiff may or may not be a lossless file, depends on which way it was saved, as there are several variations of the tiff format. CS2 is capable of saving both, but the LZW format is the true lossless format in tiff and you can't use those on the web.

[Howler-Cat]

Great details on the first one. Excellent!

[Anke]

Nice one, Nancy, that technique seems to have paid dividends. If I may perhaps say though that the first one might benefit from cropping/cloning out of the bird-feeder for a more natural look.

[nwyman]

Nice one, Nancy, that technique seems to have paid dividends. If I may perhaps say though that the first one might benefit from cropping/cloning out of the bird-feeder for a more natural look.


Thanks Anke - but I didn't think the shot that important to go to all the trouble. One of these days, though, it will all come together and I'll do so.

:D

[nwyman]

[quote]

Here is a great explanation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_file_format) of the image formats and some examples, about 1/3 down, under the "Lossy compression" sub heading where the two pics are. Read the italics text below the images. It explains it very well and shows it when you open them full size. :)

I'm starting to assemble a booklet of all this information. I really think I (and possibly some others) owe you some sort of gratuity for all the help you have given us. I recently bought "your" ball-head from B&H, and it works like a charm. (although I haven't used it much):D

[canonloader]

That ballhead is what made me start using my tripod. :)