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Littleone
29th of December 2007 (Sat), 13:03
My first attempt at PS. What can I do different? The picture looks great printed except for the edges of the flower.

Here is the first picture:

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Here is the finished product

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Thank you for looking!

Lyn

S.Horton
29th of December 2007 (Sat), 13:16
PS = Photoshop?

Littleone
29th of December 2007 (Sat), 13:19
Sorry :oops: yes Photoshop CS

S.Horton
29th of December 2007 (Sat), 13:32
Oh, no worries -- I'm just never quite sure anymore, since so many have Lightroom, etc.

I see you're trying to remove the subject from the background; soften the edges a bit for the transition.

Very nice web gallery, BTW.

Ender2309
29th of December 2007 (Sat), 14:59
it looks like you have a slight feather turned on, i think the default for the lassos (if thats what you used) is something like 3 px. turn it off or to 1 and i think you'll like the results better.

Littleone
29th of December 2007 (Sat), 16:51
I didn't use the lasso (probably my mistake) I used the magic wand instead.

With Photoshop it is a hit and miss for me. What takes most people minutes to do, takes me a day or more. I try to stick with what comes out of the camera except for color or balance.

Thank you for your suggestions! I will work on them.

Lyn

zacker
29th of December 2007 (Sat), 18:49
you need to feather it in...try 2 pixels at first... it will help it sorta fade into the bg..

PETERSYMES
30th of December 2007 (Sun), 12:30
I know the problem and this is what i do to fix it.
I make my selections, lasso or otherwise and i tend to feather them by 2 Pixels.
I then copy and paste the selection as a new layer onto my new background, then making sure the new layer is slected i take the eraser tool, set the brush hardness to soft or softish end of the scale and set the flow rate for the eraser tool down to around 5%. Then without making the brush diameter too big SAY 10-15 Pixels (depends on image size) i gently work around the edges of the layer gradually erasing the edges and they start to blend into the background, takes time but worth it.
One other thing to check (first actually) after i paste my layer i go to, Layer, Matting,De Fringe. Sometimes i have to use Remove White or Black Matte depending on the background / Foreground colours.
I hope that helps....

jonquil
30th of December 2007 (Sun), 12:35
are you going to bring in the little bud from the corner? i liked that in your original composition.

JakPot
30th of December 2007 (Sun), 14:49
I didn't use the lasso (probably my mistake) I used the magic wand instead.

With Photoshop it is a hit and miss for me. What takes most people minutes to do, takes me a day or more. I try to stick with what comes out of the camera except for color or balance.

Thank you for your suggestions! I will work on them.

Lyn


It's called practice! You'll never get any quicker if you don't work at it. Does CS have the Extract filter? Or was that introduced in CS2? It seems to do a better job (& much quicker) than the selection tools.

Littleone
30th of December 2007 (Sun), 19:54
Thanks everyone! I have been working on it today and your tips have certainly helped.

However I cannot seem to get rid of the "fringe" the surrounds some of the petals. I will continue to work on it.

I will post the finished product.

Lyn

joedlh
31st of December 2007 (Mon), 13:52
I know that your question was about PS technique. However, the EXIF data shows that this image was shot on a 5D at 150 mm, f5.0 and 150 mm. You should be able to get a better image from a 5D. First off, I think the focus is on the stem of the bud in the bottom right corner. At least there seems to be more detail there. If I were setting up this shot, I would use a tripod and a higher f stop, like 16. That would give you more depth of field. With sharper edges, you might find that PS would have an easier time of selecting the pixels you want.

Just my thoughts.

-Joe

JakPot
31st of December 2007 (Mon), 14:04
I know that your question was about PS technique. However, the EXIF data shows that this image was shot on a 5D at 150 mm, f5.0 and 150 mm. You should be able to get a better image from a 5D. First off, I think the focus is on the stem of the bud in the bottom right corner. At least there seems to be more detail there. If I were setting up this shot, I would use a tripod and a higher f stop, like 16. That would give you more depth of field. With sharper edges, you might find that PS would have an easier time of selecting the pixels you want.

Just my thoughts.

-Joe

yeah, not the best to try to extract the subject, especially to a straight black background. I think instead I'd try to process the photo as is to enhance. If your plan was to extract, you'll have a very difficult time getting it to look right.

VictorValencia
31st of December 2007 (Mon), 15:43
One thing I suggest is to have some black velvet handy and use it as a backdrop.
Then expose to the right and bring it back down in PS to make the background
as black as possible. I am no expert in PS but I think it will be tough to
make it look realistic. Nuthin's better than the real McCoy.

Here's an example...

http://victorvalencia.smugmug.com/gallery/3907792#233636803-X2-LB