Go Buckeyes!!!!

[Hivoltage]

Root for the Buckeyes. We need a big win to make up for last years humiliation!!!!:lol:

[Tapeman]

I'm with ya. Great to see a Big 10 team in there.

[Tapeman]

I'm with ya. Great to see a Big 10 team in there.

[Tom W]

Go Bucks!

Got to root for them, though I have to tell you that I have several friends in the south that think that the entire Big-10 is weak compared to the teams in the south. If nothing else, I'd like to prove them wrong.

http://tbdbitl.osu.edu/media/audio/across_the_field.mp3

[LeesaB]

OH IO

!!

[Eagle]

Go Bucks

[apinion]

SEC all the way!!! GEAUX TIGERS!!!

[Hivoltage]

SEC all the way!!! GEAUX TIGERS!!!
Tigers are going to get a lesson in Football tomorrow night!!!!:)

[sadatk]

I have no doubt in my mind that the Tigers are gonna give OSU a good old smackdown tomorrow. :p

[Tsmith]

GEAUX TIGERS

[Popper]

something tells me we will be bringing another one of these back to Columbus on Tuesday....

[Hivoltage]

something tells me we will be bringing another one of these back to Columbus on Tuesday....

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/LoKyBuckeye/CopyofSeptemberVacation346.jpg
NICE!~!!!!!!!

[apinion]

Having only moved from Louisiana to Texas in June, I can safely say that the SEC is the strongest conference....you know this, so don't fool yourself. The tigers have this...no doubt.

[FlyingPhotog]

something tells me we will be bringing another one of these back to Columbus on Tuesday....

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/LoKyBuckeye/CopyofSeptemberVacation346.jpg

No Doubt!

Some of the finest display cases in America are built by OSU grads!!!

[Popper]

, so don't fool yourself. The tigers have this...no doubt.

you sound like we did last year ;)

[Tsmith]

If Les Miles & company will feed Jacob Hester the ball it'll be a long night for the Buckeyes but notice I typed "if". They failed at times this year when they needed to.

[LeesaB]

something tells me we will be bringing another one of these back to Columbus on Tuesday....

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/LoKyBuckeye/CopyofSeptemberVacation346.jpg
DOUBLE NICE!!!

[squashed]

USC by 20 :)

[tomd]

Ohio State by 13

I'm a Big Ten fan!

[LeesaB]

USC by 20 :)

WHAT?

wrong game? maybe even wrong season LOL ;)

[gymell]

I went to Georgia, got two degrees there, marched in the band for four years. We suffered many humiliating defeats by the likes of Florida, LSU, Tennessee, etc. So basically I hate all of our SEC rivals and will be rooting for the Buckeyes! I'm also liking the Bulldogs' chances for next year. GO DAWGS!

[BillsBayou]

It's so sad. The Buckeyes are headed for another humiliating defeat. I'm predicting a 22-point gap.

GEAUX TIGERS!!!

[Hivoltage]

Ya Think? Lets see what ya think tomorrow....LOL

[LeesaB]

They Buckeyes have this one..i can feel it!

I'm not into sports that, but I know a couple of those kids...

Tressel is from our town..

I'm telilng ya, they are gonna win!

[superdiver]

Wanting it doesnt make it so or right...LOL

I really dont care either way, but I think LSU has the stronger team, its just a question as to WHAT team is actually going to show up...

[Popper]

I see a defensive struggle in the first half followed by big touchdowns in the second half from both sides. Turnovers will play a big part as well... I think the main goal for OSU will be to wear down the LSU defensive line by running Beanie and opening up the passing game... sounds pretty simple, right? :)

Last year Florida was more physical than OSU and I don't think that will happen again.

OSU 31 - LSU 27.

[gymell]

Many years ago when I was in the UGA band, we played Ohio State in the Citrus Bowl. Our big chant was "What's a buckeye?" but we never got an answer. ;)

[Hivoltage]

Maybe I should take a picture of a Buckeye and post it. We have Buckeye trees all over our property.

[gymell]

Maybe I should take a picture of a Buckeye and post it. We have Buckeye trees all over our property.

Ah, so after all these years, I find out it's a tree! Isn't that kind of a weird mascot though - not like trees go anywhere or do anything! I guess unless they fall on you or something ...

[Popper]

"What's a buckeye?"

a poisonous nut or LSU's worst nightmare :cool:

http://media.theinsiders.com/media/image/26/263654.jpg

[Hivoltage]

Ha!!!! This has been a fun Post. Go Buckeyes!!!!!! We want another National Championship. It's been 5 or 6 years:lol:

[gymell]

a poisonous nut or LSU's worst nightmare :cool:

http://media.theinsiders.com/media/image/26/263654.jpg

Yikes! Now that's a scary nut! ;)

[gecko3s]

something tells me we will be bringing another one of these back to Columbus on Tuesday....

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/LoKyBuckeye/CopyofSeptemberVacation346.jpg


That's as close as they let you guys get to it last year, eh? Probably be as close as you'll get this year too! GO SEC
you can look but you CAN'T touch!!

[LeesaB]

Just a few hours to go!!!!

Anyone want to guess who scores first?

[Popper]

Just a few hours to go!!!!

Anyone want to guess who scores first?

LSU with a field goal.... :cry:

[apinion]

LSU 21- OSU 14

Low scoring game tonight...it'll be close, though.

[LeesaB]

1.5 hours and counting!!!

[CountryBoy]

LSU 35 Ohio 10 . But what do I know, i'm an Irish fan.:cry:

[LeesaB]

You should all be at your television screens now..

10 minutes to go!~

[Hivoltage]

It's Go Time!!!!!

[LeesaB]

GO BUCKEYES!!

[Tom W]

Yeah, Baby!!! Go Bucks!

[LeesaB]

ooo YOU KNOW IT!!!

OO wait, what just happened? oo who just scored?

[jonnythan]

Ho hum :D

[Tsmith]

GO LSU!!

;) ....

[CincyShooter]

Don't Mess with the SEC..y'all should know better! This is where the big boys play.

[dave kadolph]

Better pick it up!!

[LeesaB]

It's not over till it's over!

[SoaringUSAEagle]

Go LSU! 31-10!

[jonnythan]

If OSU wants a shot, they better show some serious signs of life *right now*. A bunch of ridiculous, flagrant penalties, poor tackling, and generally flat play have put them in a huge hole. LSU is rolling.

[gecko3s]

So far so good.....

[Tom W]

It's not over till it's over!

It isn't officially over, but I turned the channel at half time and only peeked back a couple of times. OSU laid down again just like last year. Disappointing, but I don't have any money on the game.

[CincyShooter]

Big Ten is Crap...how can any of you like OSU

[dave kadolph]

It's not over till it's over!


Well?

[jonnythan]

It's as officially over as it gets without it being officially over.

Two national championships in five years! Woo!!

[LeesaB]

UGH! just cannot believe it. I stopped watching.

[gecko3s]

I live out in the country and don't get local channels...Are any of the OSU fans crying like last year?

[jonnythan]

LSU, the BCS' first repeat champion.

[jonnythan]

I live out in the country and don't get local channels...Are any of the OSU fans crying like last year?

They're whining about the referees because OSU players committed some serious penalties, including a 15-yard roughing the kicker call that led to an LSU touchdown. In reality all of the calls were good and were straight-up mistakes by the OSU players.

[Popper]

Big Ten is Crap...how can any of you like OSU

:rolleyes:

well... the two biggest plays were a) the blocked field goal. This gave LSU the momentum and had a 10 point swing in favor of LSU. and b) the roughing the kicker and personal foul in the third quarter. They basically turned around and gave LSU almost 60 yards. LSU has made the big plays when they needed and didn't get down after the fast start by OSU.

There's always next year (didn't I say that last year?) :o

[Popper]

They're whining about the referees because OSU players committed some serious penalties, including a 15-yard roughing the kicker call that led to an LSU touchdown. In reality all of the calls were good and were straight-up mistakes by the OSU players.

who's whining?

[jonnythan]

who's whining?

OSU fans.

[Popper]

OSU fans.

where?

[jonnythan]

ESPN Gameday live, the NOLA forums, Buckeyeplanet, etc etc. All over the internet, basically.

[sadatk]

I have no doubt in my mind that the Tigers are gonna give OSU a good old smackdown tomorrow. :p

:cool:

[dave kadolph]

Stick a fork in it.

[Popper]

ESPN Gameday live, the NOLA forums, Buckeyeplanet, etc etc. All over the internet, basically.

eh... most of them are idiots who didn't have to live through the John Cooper years. I was with about 200 OSU fans tonight and heard no one complain about the officials... there are a lot of OSU fans out there but it seems like the arrogant ones flock to those sites.

special teams won this game for LSU, not the refs.

[gecko3s]

I was just remembering last year some of the striking tv shots....particularly one probably 12 year old boy with tears streaming down his face at the end of the game.

[apinion]

GEAUX TIGERS!!!! NO. 1!!!!!!!!

told you:cool:

[LFaluade]

I guess that's a wrap for OSU again. OSU and OU have something in common...when it comes to crunch time (big bowl games) they just can't seem to pull it off (and I am not saying this because I am a UT Longhorn alum) :)

[CincyShooter]

:rolleyes:

well... the two biggest plays were a) the blocked field goal. This gave LSU the momentum and had a 10 point swing in favor of LSU. and b) the roughing the kicker and personal foul in the third quarter. They basically turned around and gave LSU almost 60 yards. LSU has made the big plays when they needed and didn't get down after the fast start by OSU.

There's always next year (didn't I say that last year?) :o


Next year they have a chance...not gonna lie

[apinion]

Not once, but twice OSU...in 2 years?? Supposedly '08 is the year of the buckeye....

Congrats TIGERS!! You are one of the only things that makes me proud to say I am from Louisiana.

[gecko3s]

If a team goes to the National Championship game 3 times in a row, and say, against 3 different opponents, but loses each one, does that make them collectively better than any of the individual opponents they play? Averaged? Statistically? Where's the math people...

[Tsmith]

HOLD THAT TIGER

[Popper]

If a team goes to the National Championship game 3 times in a row, and say, against 3 different opponents, but loses each one, does that make them collectively better than any of the individual opponents they play? Averaged? Statistically? Where's the math people...

some of the math I see is OSU = Buffalo Bills.

most people don't realize that this is just the life of a sports fan from Ohio. I'm originally from Cleveland and I'm 32. I have had to deal with The Browns (The Drive '87 and the Fumble '88, the team moving to Baltimore). The Indians (many bad teams plus the '95 World Series loss to the Braves and the '97 loss to the Marlins). OSU (many losses in the '90's to Michigan, '06 loss to UF, now '07 loss to LSU, '06 Basketball loss to UF), Cavs (many losses to Jordan/Bulls, '06 loss to San Antonio. Always a brides maid and never the bride... except for the '02 National Championship.

as long as we keep beating M*CH*G*N on a regular basis I'm happy.

/end rant :cool:

[asysin2leads]

as long as we keep beating M*CH*G*N on a regular basis I'm happy.


AMEN!!!

I know that we got beat, but still.......

OH

[Tony-S]

It's all meaningless. Until there's a playoff the "national champion" is in name only.

[Popper]

AMEN!!!

I know that we got beat, but still.......

OH

IO!

It's all meaningless. Until there's a playoff the "national champion" is in name only.

It will never happen. There's too much money in the bowl system.

and since there is a media love fest for USC since the Rose Bowl what are the chances that the coaches or AP poll vote them #1 and create a split National Title. It probably won't happen since LSU won in a route but stranger things have happened.

[asysin2leads]

IO!


Thanks!

I personally think that in order to make it square across the board, they need to make it all BCS teams play the same number of games. The SEC plays 2 more games than the Big 10 does. Does that cause OSU to lose the game? No, but it's something to think about. Having a month off makes any team a bit off their game. Just my opinion.

[FlyingPhotog]

From beyond came a faint echo...

Hail! To The Victors Valiant...

[Tsmith]

It's all meaningless. Until there's a playoff the "national champion" is in name only.

Tell that to the schools and conferences that receive millions from the BCS.

[jonnythan]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3185967

LSU #1, Georgia #2 in the AP poll. USC finished #3.

No split championship this year.

The SEC became the first conference to hold the #1 and #2 spots since the Big 8 in 1971.

[Tsmith]

It certainly was an oddity of a year in College football.

[jonnythan]

No kidding. The top 6 teams all had 2 losses.

[gymell]

Georgia #2!! If only we had taken care of business with the then-unranked South Carolina, AT HOME, we could have been playing for the title this year! Well hopefully we won't blow it next year and lose to Vandy at homecoming or something stupid!

Me in the UGA band, not sure which game, sometime around 1990:
http://www.pbase.com/image/91401611/original.jpg

[BillsBayou]

...LSU #1, Georgia #2 in the AP poll. USC finished #3.

No split championship this year....


I hate that "Split Championship" garbage. That's what happens when you fall into the "Election Paradox."

At the beginning of the season, all BCS elegible colleges are shooting for the BCS championship. It's a flawed system, sure, but it uses QUANTITATIVE data to determine rank. At the end of the season, a location picked before the season began is the site of the championship game. ONE trophy is awarded to the winner of that contest.

"Split Championship" is what you get when people don't like who participated in, or won, the game. When the past BCS champions were listed last night, there were NO asterisks; there were no "also-won" teams; there was no discussion of teams who won polls.

Other teams like to complain that they should have been in the game last night. However, they cannot do anything to petition their way into the game. They knew the rules going in to the season. The rules cannot be changed just because a "Popular Poll" is taken to indicate someone else is "champion". That's the "Election Paradox."

An example (that I do not want to discuss on POTN because it would violate the rules of this forum) would be a close election where lawyers are brought in to change how votes are counted after the election closes. You cannot do this and expect accurate results. "Accurate" was determined before the election just as "Champion" was determined prior to the start of the season.

Sure, it was nice that the AP Poll came out and put LSU at the top. But it doesn't "cement" the championship. That designation took place when the clock reached "0:00".

Polls are elections. Elections are decided by qualitative methods; by gut feelings; by "best opinions"; by heart. College football doesn't elect champions. Champions put points on the scoreboard, not ballots in a hat. Champions don't win hearts. Champions win games.

[squashed]

I told you USC would kill em.

[jonnythan]

Agree with you 100%, Bills. I was debating this on ESPN's Gameday Live last night. The BCS National Championship Game officially determines the National Championship according to the rules of the league in which they play.

This is no different than if the AP decided to issue their rankings for NFL teams at the end of the year and declare a "split championship" if the Super Bowl victor isn't #1.

Of course, the media continues to call it a split championship - because USC finished #1 in a media poll. As far as the NCAA is concerned LSU was the National Champion in 2003 and again in 2007. Congrats to LSU.

[Tony-S]

It will never happen. There's too much money in the bowl system.

Still doesn't matter. It's a championship in name only. If it's good enough for the Division 1AA, 2, NJCAA and the NAIA, it ought to be good enough for Division 1A.

Tell that to the schools and conferences that receive millions from the BCS.

Until it's settled on the field, it's not a real championship.

Here you go:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3186232

[Tony-S]

This is no different than if the AP decided to issue their rankings for NFL teams at the end of the year and declare a "split championship" if the Super Bowl victor isn't #1.

Except that in the NFL it's settled on the field.

[jonnythan]

Except that in the NFL it's settled on the field.

Looks to me like the BCS National Championship was settled on the field of the Superdome last night where the #1 and #2 teams, according to the rules of the league, played 60 minutes of football for it.

I don't want to hear Georgia whine. If you can't even win your division of your own conference, you don't deserve to be fighting for the overall championship of all the conferences.

[Tony-S]

Politics and money.

[gymell]

I don't want to hear Georgia whine. If you can't even win your division of your own conference, you don't deserve to be fighting for the overall championship of all the conferences.

Agreed. That's why I said if we had only taken care of business against South Carolina (or Tennessee for that matter) ...

GO DAWGS!!

[tim1960]

I'm a Ga fan and always will be and I can't agree with you more. No whinning from me or others that I know of. You've got to win your conference before you can play for the Championship; maybe next year.

The SEC is by far the toughest conference in college football. I think Ohio knows that now for the second year in a row.

[gymell]

The SEC is by far the toughest conference in college football. I think Ohio knows that now for the second year in a row.

Heh, and Hawaii found out this year too.. ;)

[Tony-S]

I'm a Ga fan and always will be and I can't agree with you more. No whinning from me or others that I know of. You've got to win your conference before you can play for the Championship; maybe next year.

With the current system, yes; but with a play-off, no.

The SEC is by far the toughest conference in college football. I think Ohio knows that now for the second year in a row.

I think it is, too, but not "by far". Pac 10 and Big 12 were nearly just as strong this year.

[jonnythan]

With the current system, yes; but with a play-off, no.

Depends on how they did the playoff. I wouldn't mind seeing a rule that states a team cannot play for the NC if they lost (or didn't make it to) their conference's championship game.

[Tony-S]

Why not? They do it for basketball. Right now, football is (theoretically) about who's the best over the duration of a season, while basketball (and the smaller football divisions) is about who's the best at the end of the season. Should football stay the way it is, or should it be like basketball? Shouldn't all conferences have a championship game (like the SEC and Big 12) or not at all (like the Pac 10 and Big 10)? If the Big 12 and SEC didn't have a championship game, the BCS championship would have been played by two other teams this year. Personally, I think if you're in the top 8 of the BCS standings, you should be in the playoffs. I suspect the SEC would have had two teams and the Big 12 would have had three. And I'm equally sure the other conferences wouldn't have liked that.

[gymell]

Depends on how they did the playoff. I wouldn't mind seeing a rule that states a team cannot play for the NC if they lost (or didn't make it to) their conference's championship game.

But not all conferences have a championship game. In fact, the majority of them don't. The Big 10 doesn't, for example.

[jonnythan]

But not all conferences have a championship game. In fact, the majority of them don't. The Big 10 doesn't, for example.

Obvious exceptions, of course. I thought I implied that in my post, but, rereading it, I see that didn't come through at all.

[gymell]

Obvious exceptions, of course. I thought I implied that in my post, but, rereading it, I see that didn't come through at all.

Actually the conferences that have championship games are the exception. Of the 12 division 1 conferences, only three have championship football games.

[jonnythan]

I didn't realize the numbers were that skewed. My point still stands though. I'd be OK with excluding members of those 3 conferences that didn't win their conference championship.

[BillsBayou]

...Of course, the media continues to call it a split championship - because USC finished #1 in a media poll...

Precisely.

Next, the AP will cover the olympics and vote on the best track and field competitors. Someone is going to complain that the gold medal winners are co-gold-medalists with atheletes who didn't even win a silver or bronze medal.

The BCS may be flawed, but the AP Poll is out-dated and self-serving. The press is going to make a story about the press getting together and voting amongst themselves. Excuse me? Isn't that just INVENTING a story? How about reporting on WHAT TOOK PLACE instead of "Yeah, well, but we're going to vote." This sort of garbage will always favor cities with a larger media share and a larger pool of reporters.

[apinion]

All of this talk is overlooking the key point here....CONGRATS TO LSU!!!

[breal101]

FEAR THE HAT!

[tim1960]

I wouldn't think it would be rocket science to figure out some type of playoff bracket/championship series. The smaller division colleges have these playoffs to determine the champion. Also, college baseball and basketball each has a playoff to determine the national champion. So, I would think that with some thought and reasoning, this too could be perform for division one football.

And yes, congratulations to LSU for winning the national championship!!!