Brightscreen® Eyepiece Magnifier™ D2

[jr_senator]

Anyone have/used it? And what do you think?

[ben_r_]

Post a link?

[jr_senator]

http://www.brightscreen.com/eyepiecemagnifier.html

[Eagle]

Current MSRP price $ 239.95
on sale price now with 20% discount $ 191.96

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[nadtz]

From the few people who I have read comments from who used it, it seems to be either a love it, hate it kind of thing. For the price Id see if I could find just about anything else along the same lines to see if I liked it first (like Nikons eyepieces assuming they would fit the bill) before the brightscreen.

[jr_senator]

I used an Olimpus eyepiece with my 20D. It was 1.2x and blocked some of the screen. I guess I really don't have a problem using my 1D3 as is, but coming from MF and 35mm I'm used to a larger view (especially now as a senior citizen). What caught my attention was the claim that the viewfinder is not blocked in any way. I really would like to hear from someone that uses/had used it.

[jr_senator]

I just read this on Brigthscreen's site, "All standard Brightscreen® products are offered with a 10 day unconditional money back satisfaction privilege." I guess I could try it being it can be returned. Now I just need a couple hundred dollars.

[b.d.bop]

Well I'd been using the EP-EX15 eyepiece extender so that my face wouldn't be scrunched up against the LCD of my 5D but it made the viewfinder frame appear too small so I sprang for the BrightScreen Eyepiece Magnifier D2.

So far, so good - I need more time with it to be absolutely certain, but I'm getting a good view with it right off the bat and it doesn't feel like I have to squint to see anymore.
The rubber eyecup it comes with is nice, too.

I think I'm going to like it. I better at this price! :eek:

[ben_r_]

Wow thats a pretty penny for an eye piece!

[b.d.bop]

Wow thats a pretty penny for an eye piece!
Yeah. And hopefully worth every penny to see clearly and exactly what I'm shooting through far more expensive L-glass, eh? ;)

[ALT1MATE]

Nikon DK-21.

I've had both and its way better than the Olympus ME-1 as far as form and function. Besides its only 20 bucks. You can't go wrong.

[b.d.bop]

UPDATE:

I love it! It's absolutely terrific.

I have never before seen as clearly through my viewfinder, and I now realize that I was practically struggling and squinting for certain shots before I had this eyepiece magnifier. It is a keeper for me. Glad I discovered it - definitely worth every cent.

Thumbs up. :D

[ebann]

UPDATE:

I love it! It's absolutely terrific.

I have never before seen as clearly through my viewfinder, and I now realize that I was practically struggling and squinting for certain shots before I had this eyepiece magnifier. It is a keeper for me. Glad I discovered it - definitely worth every cent.

Thumbs up. :D

Interesting... I've been sitting on the idea of getting Brightscreen #5 with crop lines #3 for my 1Ds (MK1)... and now I have two reasons to speed up this purchase... this Eyepiece Magnifier seems like a perfect match for the split image with microprism collar focusing aid! Which screen are you using with your Magnifier?

[b.d.bop]

Interesting... I've been sitting on the idea of getting Brightscreen #5 with crop lines #3 for my 1Ds (MK1)... and now I have two reasons to speed up this purchase... this Eyepiece Magnifier seems like a perfect match for the split image with microprism collar focusing aid! Which screen are you using with your Magnifier?

The stock screen that comes with the 5D.

[jr_senator]

Maybe someone who uses the Eyepiece Magnifier can comment. I understand use of the magnifier dims the viewfinder. Anyway, I was thinking about getting one until I read that on this forum.

[tkoutdoor]

If it stays on the frickin' camera it'll outclass the Canon ones straight out of the box. One buys Canon eyepieces on the installment plan seeing how they keep falling off and having to be replaced!

[b.d.bop]

If it stays on the frickin' camera it'll outclass the Canon ones straight out of the box. One buys Canon eyepieces on the installment plan seeing how they keep falling off and having to be replaced! The BrightScreen unit has a little locking screw.

[Oteck]

anyone got a picture of this unit on the camera? top/side shots?

[b.d.bop]

anyone got a picture of this unit on the camera? top/side shots?

Here you go - I just shot these for you. Forgive the dust on the camera. There's a story that goes with that - but never mind.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/b_d_bop/R-SIDE.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/b_d_bop/L-SIDE.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/b_d_bop/TOP.jpg

...and there you have it! :)

[Oteck]

thanks! I'm really considering buying this if it does retain full FOV w/ that kind of magnification

ps. that a 50d? cuz sure looks like mine

[jr_senator]

b.d.bop, would you say the loss of viewfinder brightness exceeds 1 f/stop?

[b.d.bop]

b.d.bop, would you say the loss of viewfinder brightness exceeds 1 f/stop?
Wow, tough one to judge. I'd say no, if pressed, jr_senator.

[Blue S2]

I use the Brightscreen Magnifier, as well as their screens.

On the 5D WITH a #5 screen....its amazing! Its so bright and soooo large. I can't use anything else. It makes such a difference to me. It makes me feel like im looking through an older camera! Todays digitals definitely don't cut it when it comes to the view. The bright screen really helps.

Second...on my 5DmkII...I do not have the focus screen yet...(should get here in a few days) I cannot see any light loss. Still looks bright to me. Their optics are very good. You get what you pay for. I'm sure when the screen comes its going to be just breathtaking.

Also...i am using the 5DmkII with the 5D mag piece since I could not wait to order a second. (i swap it back and fourth as needed til I do get another)

I don't know if it will be the same unit or not, but on the 5DmkII the view becomes HUGE. Different than the 5D. Without looking around, my eyes don't immediately see the corners. Its amazing. Its like sticking my head through a window! And the read out can be seen without even putting my head to the camera.

I know i probably sound like a salesperson for them, but im not. I just really feel VFs on digital cameras really suck. Even the 1D series is nothing special in my eyes. Compared to some old film Nikons, and Pentax cameras, they just seem small, uninvolving, and dim.

The brightscreen stuff makes a world of difference. I'm a customer for life now!

[jr_senator]

I use the Brightscreen Magnifier, as well as their screens.

On the 5D WITH a #5 screen....its amazing! Its so bright and soooo large. I can't use anything else. It makes such a difference to me. It makes me feel like im looking through an older camera! Todays digitals definitely don't cut it when it comes to the view. The bright screen really helps.

Second...on my 5DmkII...I do not have the focus screen yet...(should get here in a few days) I cannot see any light loss. Still looks bright to me. Their optics are very good. You get what you pay for. I'm sure when the screen comes its going to be just breathtaking.

Also...i am using the 5DmkII with the 5D mag piece since I could not wait to order a second. (i swap it back and fourth as needed til I do get another)

I don't know if it will be the same unit or not, but on the 5DmkII the view becomes HUGE. Different than the 5D. Without looking around, my eyes don't immediately see the corners. Its amazing. Its like sticking my head through a window! And the read out can be seen without even putting my head to the camera.

I know i probably sound like a salesperson for them, but im not. I just really feel VFs on digital cameras really suck. Even the 1D series is nothing special in my eyes. Compared to some old film Nikons, and Pentax cameras, they just seem small, uninvolving, and dim.

The brightscreen stuff makes a world of difference. I'm a customer for life now!

Thanks for the info.

[Oteck]

you just had to say that? now i have to buy it

[jr_senator]

you just had to say that? now i have to buy it

Move over.

[Blue S2]

Oh, quick note:

For anyone actually getting the #5 focus screen as well....
It is amazing, and the center is virtually clear. Its like seeing with your eyes outside the camera...especially with fast glass....BUT!!!!!!!!!!

Spot metering with a #5 screen is thrown off. I tested this, and basically the slower the lens, the more the meter is off. With an f4 zoom or slower, its roughly 4.5 stops off. (it reads underexposed so you end up blowing out by 4.5 stops)

I have found that on fast zooms and primes there is barely any difference in meter reading. Maybe 1/3 or 1/2.

Center and evaluative are NOT EFFECTED.

I have tested this with multiple canon primes, 24-70, 24-105, 17-40, 16-35, 70-200 (both), 70-300, 100-400, 50s, 100macro, fisheye, etc....

It seems anything under 2.8 is fine to spot meter with. Only slow glass seems to fool the meter with this screen.

[Blue S2]

Ok, I just received my #5 screen for the 5DmkII.

There are no metering issues on this camera with this screen. It seems my problem was only on the original 5D. Spot metering is just fine even with f4 zooms on the 5DmkII.

With the #5 screen and the magnifier, the 5DmkII makes the 5D viewfinder look almost small in comparison! I never though I would look at the 5D and think...hmm...small view!

Definitely worth the upgrade to the Brightscreen combo!

EDIT: I did some more evaluations and there is some difference. It is slight however. When using a light meter, the picture is "correct." In spot metering, a very fast prime (f2.8 and below) reads about 1 - 2 stops overexposed compared to an f4 zoom. The correct exposure going in favor of the fast prime. Evaluative metering shows less of a difference. In most cases I was only getting 1/3 - 1/2 stop.

Basically any slow lenses are trustable with the in-camera meter in evaluative for the most part. Spot metering will need to be adjusted. I don't bother.

This is also keeping the camera in the screen setting "S" for the matte screen.

The standard screen setting is actually my preference with evaluative or center weighted. I think this gives the most accurate metering with the Brightscreen. This reads just about dead on from what I expect from my camera.

[Vascilli]

And here I am with my XTi's stock VF. Lucky you guys..

[Oteck]

I just ordered one and i'll jam the housing of the Eyepiece extender to make it look oem :)

[nadtz]

Can anyone compare the BS with the Nikon dk-21 or Olympus ME-1? My eyes suck, but with a large enough VF I can manual focus. Though a bit costly if on a 5d this magnifier allows that it might be worth it for me.

[Blue S2]

the magnifier, especially when paired with a brightscreen focus screen allows for effortless manual focus. I focus manually all the time. The split prism screen helps, as does the contrast on the rest of the screen. The magnifier really makes the image nice and huge without losing any view. They offer a money back trial period. Its worth giving it a shot.

[Oteck]

Finaly got mine and did some modifications to it since i didn't like the mounting hardware, and the element more centered to the focus screen.
Also im a sucker for having things look stock :)

[tiha]

^^^ Now it looks really nice. :cool:

[nadtz]

the magnifier, especially when paired with a brightscreen focus screen allows for effortless manual focus. I focus manually all the time. The split prism screen helps, as does the contrast on the rest of the screen. The magnifier really makes the image nice and huge without losing any view. They offer a money back trial period. Its worth giving it a shot.

Thanks, I might give this a shot. Hopefully my (slowly) failing eyes wont get the better of me.

[Oteck]

This may not be much of an issue but is anyone finding the rubber cup blocking the LCD? Some of these days I'll pick up a ef-S screen or a split prism

[jr_senator]

Some of these days I'll pick up a ef-S screen or a split prism

Take a look at the 'L' screen.

[TaDa]

Man, you guys have me tempted to buy the D2 eyepiece. Looks like it would work nicely for me since I wear glasses.

[Oteck]

Take a look at the 'L' screen.

Care to post a link?

[jr_senator]

The 'L' (http://www.adorama.com/CASECL1.html?searchinfo=%20Ec-L%20focusing&item_no=1) focusing screen.

[Oteck]

Doesn't look like it will work on my 50D :(

[xenomorphic]

Bump.

This gear looks awesome. I'm tempted to order both the magnifier eyepiece and focusing screen number 5. Anyone have any experience as to which focus-screen center split-direction would be the most useful for an all-round variety of photography (portrait, people, urban, architecture, industrial and landscapes), horizontal, vertical or diagonal?

James

[Blue S2]

I personally feel the diagonal is probably the most useful if you manually focus. You can see a clear split division even if you are against horizontal lines, or verticals. (as compared to it blending in with one)

I have a Horizontal on both of my current bodies. I find myself slightly tilting a little towards the diagonal when I manually focus. That's why I say the diagonal is probably the most useful. Visually I think the horizontal is the least distracting. Can't go wrong with either one. Never tried a vertical.

I can say regardless which one, the screen and viewfinder are definitely a combo you wont regret!

[xenomorphic]

BlueS2: Thanks. I find it hard to manually focus with my existing setup due to having to squash my face and glasses into the back of the camera to get a reasonably visually corrected view through the viewfinder. Brightscreen gear promises to both clarify the view, facilitate easier placement of glasses against viewfinder, shield the view from incident light and provide better visual cues as to when something is in focus or not. Pricey, but I'm willing to give it a try. :)

James

[jr_senator]

I personally feel the diagonal is probably the most useful if you manually focus.

That's what I used with my 20D. I use the Ec-L screen now and it has the best focusing aid I ever used.

....I'm willing to give it a try. :)


Let us know what you think about it.

[Blue S2]

It's nice that the new eyecup also keeps your nose a little further back from the body!

The focus screen contrast is fantastic for manual focus. If you use fast glass, its virtually like seeing with your eyes. The center spot is definitely almost clear!

Yes, pricey, but they give you a trial period. I doubt anyone who tries the combo for at least a week will send it back. They might think they want to...until they take it off and see the difference again! I had forgotten how different it was until I took it off my 5D one day to clean it...WOW. 5D looked small in comparison!

[tvphotog]

Is is difficult to install the split screen/collar #5 focussing screen if I buy one from brightscreen? Must I take it in to a dealer to have it done? How will it affect the nine focusing points on my 5D2 and if they're superimposed, won't that make the view look crowded through the eyepiece?

[Blue S2]

Your "view" won't change. You will see the split prism...but all the points will be super imposed right on it. It does not look crowded at all. Actually. with the magnifier, you see the points even bigger. Nothing changes except how well you can see what is already there.

The screen is very easy to install, especially if you are patient. A little tray holds the screen. There is a latch you press on and it drops down. (with the camera down on its back so the sensor is facing the sky) The old screen is lifted out and you place the new screen on the tray. Lift the tray back up and it re-latches.

Double check for dust and you are good to go.
http://brightscreen.com/install.html

[tvphotog]

Your "view" won't change. You will see the split prism...but all the points will be super imposed right on it. It does not look crowded at all. Actually. with the magnifier, you see the points even bigger. Nothing changes except how well you can see what is already there.

The screen is very easy to install, especially if you are patient. A little tray holds the screen. There is a latch you press on and it drops down. (with the camera down on its back so the sensor is facing the sky) The old screen is lifted out and you place the new screen on the tray. Lift the tray back up and it re-latches.

Double check for dust and you are good to go.
http://brightscreen.com/install.html

Excellent! Thank you for the link. Will the screen or eyepiece change light metering for my 24-105L or 100-200L lens? Are there any other downsides to using these two new devices with the 5D2 or these lenses? What are the advantages/disadvantages of the diagonal vs the horizontal screens?

[Blue S2]

Horizontal screen is "normal" view. Diagonal is the same, except I feel it makes manually focusing slightly easier with the prism. You can see the division better against horizontal and vertical lines with a diagonal. Where if you are focusing on a horizontal line with a horizontal split, you might have to tilt a little. All of my have horizontals.

Metering does not change at all....UNLESS you are in spot or partial metering. f4 zooms (and probably slow primes for that matter) will meter between 3 and 4 stops off in spot metering mode. I figure this has to do with the clear center spot on the prism.

Fast lenses are virtually unaffected. When I use a slow zoom, I just use evaluative or center weighted and then zoom in for a reading of a small spot. I use a light meter more often than needing an actual reflected spot reading, so it has never been an issue for me.

To have a real usable screen and a magnifier on top of that is well worth losing spot metering with an f4 or f5.6 lens. I can finally see really well what i'm doing.

[tvphotog]

To have a real usable screen and a magnifier on top of that is well worth losing spot metering with an f4 or f5.6 lens. I can finally see really well what i'm doing.

I've decided to purchase the eyepiece and #5 screen for my new 5D2. A big part of it is that I hate pressing my nose into the rear screen, in addition to the optical improvement. But I wonder...

This seems like such a major visual advance, I wonder why the eyepiece and focus screens are not a sticky as an after-market addition. Is it the high price that prevents these things from being more popular and widely-used?

[Blue S2]

I have no clue. I think its the case of "don't know what you are missing." A lot of people getting into DSLRs have never held a medium format camera, or used 35mm SLRs from the 60s & 70s.

Even if they weren't 100% viewfinder...old cameras often had an amazingly nice view. Once autofocus came, screens got less and less "nice" as the camera would do the work for you. Why have a precision view screen if you don't need it to focus?

The view through a digital Rebel camera is pathetic. It really is. Not knocking those cameras, as they are just fine and give great results, but the view sucks. Eye relief, magnification, etc... all play a big part in the experience, and digital SLRs just did not live up to it at all. BUT...if someone is new to the game...that's all they know.

Most disposable cameras or point and shoots that people are coming from are no better, worse, or don't even have a viewfinder anymore.

If you like the old immersive experience of looking through a big window-like viewfinder, Brightscreen is the only way to go now a days.

It might not seem like a huge difference at first...but give your eyes a day or two to adjust and yu won't be able to go back. Just remember to adjust the diopter if you need.

Added bonus...the viewfinder mag increases everything...so the meter readout, and exposure info is larger and more readable.

[tvphotog]

I have no clue. I think its the case of "don't know what you are missing." A lot of people getting into DSLRs have never held a medium format camera, or used 35mm SLRs from the 60s & 70s.



You know, it's very funny, but since I've been shooting digital cameras, I never asked myself the question, "Where did that central focussing circle and horizontal line go?" until I got the 5D2. When I looked through the viewfinder and saw the nine flashing focus points, I thought "That's great, but something's missing, where's the central focussing circle?" Of course, I'm dating myself back to the time of 35mm film SLR's.

You're right, AF has just about done away with the need. However, I just can't ever get the present manual focus perfect, despite the flashing center point when it's supposed to be in focus, and there are many times that I don't want to or don't have time to go to Liveview to manually focus better.

This is a great idea whose time has...always been there, just never with DSLR's.

[dissembled]

Sorry for the rather stupid question...but does anyone experience the black out phenomenon associated with Haoda screens and others of this type? If so, at what aperture? And only the center...err....circle witth the prism is blacked out, correct?

Thanks in advance.

[Blue S2]

The "flashing confirmation" only works assuming the focus points have something they can actually attain focus on. In the dark, against flat surfaces, macro, etc... often the focus points are useless.

Even Canon's Ee-S screens aren't that great for manual focus. Better...but not up to par. I've had those too.

[Blue S2]

Black out?!?!?! What do you mean by that. At an Aperture?!?! Can you describe this issue. I've never even heard of such thing.

[Jon]

Black out?!?!?! What do you mean by that. At an Aperture?!?! Can you describe this issue. I've never even heard of such thing.
With small maximum lens apertures, the old MF focusing aids used to black out on us; it's much the same as why our AF cameras have the f/5.6 or f/8 limitation for AF. In fact interchangeable focusing screens were often made for "slow" or "fast" lenses; the "fast lens" screens, while brighter, blacked out the microprisms or split image wedges earlier than the "slow lens" screens did.

[Blue S2]

Hmm...I guess i've never used such a slow lens on a camera before?

The slowest lens I use regularly is a 70-200 f4 IS with a 1.4. So f/5.6 constant aperture.

I almost never take off the 1.4x unless im shooting concerts. I have never noticed or had an issue shooting with a 5.6 lens.

Actually, I don't remember even having an issue when I was using a 2x for a f/8 constant aperture setting and focusing manually.

The contrast regions will be a bit darker with a slower lens naturally. It's still brighter with a Brightscreen than it is with the stock screen. The center spot is virtually clear, so even if the sides are darker (relative term) on a slow lens, the center spot is still nice and bright.

Not sure if I have ever encountered what you describe. But that could be a good thing!

[tvphotog]

Has anyone who has used the focussing screen found that the central split line and collar are distracting to composing a shot?

[jr_senator]

Not sure if I have ever encountered what you describe.

You have just not taken enough pictures with enough different lenses.

[Blue S2]

I've used most lenses that Canon has produced except a few of the exotic superteles, and never run into this. I've shot probably 30 - 40,000 frames in the last couple years.

I guess if im not running into that problem, and its because I don't use enough different lenses, i think i'm just fine! My needs are met and everything works! And this doesn't affect my shooting nor my images any.

TV, the split is not really any more annoying than the focus points are. As for being a split prism, there is occasional "texture" kind of look. This obviously is part of the focus aid, but sometimes in weird situations I find it easier to focus just using the contrast section. I would have done that anyways.

The split in the center is probably half the line thickness of the focus points. Its very thin. Not distracting in general use at all IMO.

[tvphotog]

TV, the split is not really any more annoying than the focus points are. As for being a split prism, there is occasional "texture" kind of look. This obviously is part of the focus aid, but sometimes in weird situations I find it easier to focus just using the contrast section. I would have done that anyways.

The split in the center is probably half the line thickness of the focus points. Its very thin. Not distracting in general use at all IMO.

Thanks, BS2. Just pulled the trigger on the Eye Magnifier and a diagonal focus screen for my 5D2. I took some shots today and suddenly was very conscious of how much my nose is pushed into the LCD in order to get my eye into the OEM eye relief housing.

And I tried to focus on a black matte storage box with a pattern in the black material, no other contrast. No go with AF...or with MF. Can't wait to try the screen.

I'm glad to hear that there's not a lot of difference in exposure using the combination in the 5D2.

The two pieces are pricey, but it sounds like a major improvement in the photographic experience to use these two elements. With the ten day return policy, it's worth a try.

Very interesting thread, indeed.

[Blue S2]

Also...I find its better to use the basic "A" screen setting in the 5D custom functions. Don't use the "S" screen setting. The exposure seems to be more accurate with the "A."

With the Brightscreen, you have 3 different focusing options. 1. The contrast. Focus is more clearly visible and "pops" in and out on the screen. 2. The microprism collar. This gets really grainy when out of focus and becomes clear when in focus. 3. The split section. This "splits" the subject. Focus is achieved when the object is "unbroken" again.

Between all that, somehow you will find focus manually! And if you can't...its either user error or to dark for human vision...Time to just use the distance scale and hope!

I also recommend installing the focus screen FIRST. It is much easier to lay the camera flat on he back without the magnifier on. Then again, the magnifier is easy to remove if needed.

[tvphotog]

Also...I find its better to use the basic "A" screen setting in the 5D custom functions. Don't use the "S" screen setting. The exposure seems to be more accurate with the "A."

With the Brightscreen, you have 3 different focusing options. 1. The contrast. Focus is more clearly visible and "pops" in and out on the screen. 2. The microprism collar. This gets really grainy when out of focus and becomes clear when in focus. 3. The split section. This "splits" the subject. Focus is achieved when the object is "unbroken" again.



I don't know that the 5D2 has the same settings for "A" and "S." There are Styles, Standard, Portrait, etc. What are the settings that you're talking about in Custom? Also, what are you referring to when you say you use "contrast" as the first focusing option? The others I understand.

[Blue S2]

Contrast, is what I mean by the matte area thats not the split prism. The contrast between out of focus and in focus is different than a standard screen. It "pops" in and out of focus. SO basically think of focusing with the far end of the focus screen or in a corner instead of the center.

If you go into custom functions, to the Fourth Custom menu section, there is an option for "Focus Screen." You can select Eg-A, Eg-D, or Eg-S I believe. Eg-A is the standard stock screen. The D is the screen with framing lines. The S is the matte screen. Based on which screen from Canon you install, you adjust the setting to ensure metering is correct.

I find the metering is more accurate leaving it as the standard screen instead of going to the Matte screen setting, even though that sounds more accurate to the design of the Brightscreen.

Hope that helps!

[tvphotog]

Contrast, is what I mean by the matte area thats not the split prism. The contrast between out of focus and in focus is different than a standard screen. It "pops" in and out of focus. SO basically think of focusing with the far end of the focus screen or in a corner instead of the center.

If you go into custom functions, to the Fourth Custom menu section, there is an option for "Focus Screen." You can select Eg-A, Eg-D, or Eg-S I believe. Eg-A is the standard stock screen. The D is the screen with framing lines. The S is the matte screen. Based on which screen from Canon you install, you adjust the setting to ensure metering is correct.

I find the metering is more accurate leaving it as the standard screen instead of going to the Matte screen setting, even though that sounds more accurate to the design of the Brightscreen.

Hope that helps!

Yes, all the above is very useful. I found the Custom setting for the focus screens, will use Eg-A. Amazing what you learn about your own camera here! Thanks.

[tvphotog]

Well, I tried the #5 diagonal focus screen. The ground glass appearance around the central circle was too distracting for me in terms of composition. The central diagonal was fine, exactly bisecting the central focussing square. However, the distraction from composition is enough to send it back.

I also tried the magnifier. Unforunately, you have to really press your eye into the eye cup to be able to see the four corners of the screen; if you look straight ahead normally, the corners are blocked. The magnification, however is excellent. But I want to see the whole view. So the eyepiece is going back too.

But worth the experience.

[Blue S2]

Well, everyone has their preferences!

I couldn't imagine not having that big view. At least they give you a trial period!

[Symple]

My opinion is that the Brightscreen magnifier's adapter to Canon is not threaded the same so that the optic sits too far back from the viewfinder optic. Maybe they did this on purpose, but they won't get back to me now that I have pointed this out to them on the phone and in an email. I also use the Tenpa 1.36x and the Brightscreen D2 works well when put on the Tenpa adapter for Canon. I would say the Tenpa is the better product for the reason that it works properly for a fraction of the price, and the cross-threaded D2 is actually kind of frustrating even though it is built well out of metal. I am just going to use it with another adapter now and haven't bothered to return it since I scratched it up so much testing it. The Brightscreen screens are worthwhile, but the eyepiece is ridiculously overpriced compared to what else is available. I appreciated the feedback on this forum though which is what made me try this acessory.

[antifire]

My opinion is that the Brightscreen magnifier's adapter to Canon is not threaded the same so that the optic sits too far back from the viewfinder optic. Maybe they did this on purpose, but they won't get back to me now that I have pointed this out to them on the phone and in an email. I also use the Tenpa 1.36x and the Brightscreen D2 works well when put on the Tenpa adapter for Canon. I would say the Tenpa is the better product for the reason that it works properly for a fraction of the price, and the cross-threaded D2 is actually kind of frustrating even though it is built well out of metal. I am just going to use it with another adapter now and haven't bothered to return it since I scratched it up so much testing it. The Brightscreen screens are worthwhile, but the eyepiece is ridiculously overpriced compared to what else is available. I appreciated the feedback on this forum though which is what made me try this acessory.

okay, but the eyepiece is 1.75 magnification factor for the 5dmkii while the tenpa is only 1.36. this is quite significant, and may justify the price.