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Jims5D
16th of January 2008 (Wed), 23:38
Hello everyone, I was curious if anyone has a great suggestion for me. I am looking for a good telephoto lens for my s5. I had wanted one that was 3x and my mother had bought me one that ended up being a merkury 3x lens, it was garbage it zoomed but would not focus at all, i am wondering if there are any good lenses out there other than the 1.5x lens from canon. If anyone has some suggestions that actually work and focus let me know.. thanks.
stargazer77517
17th of January 2008 (Thu), 06:47
Sony has a great quality 1.7x lens.....but might want to check Lensmate.com.
There is a Raynox DCR2020PRO, thats is something like 2.0x.
lilly77
17th of January 2008 (Thu), 08:41
I am also looking for a good TF for my S3. I'm leaning toward the Raynox, I think. As stargazer said... lensmate has some good info. Here's the link to the S2- S5 info.
http://lensmateonline.com/newsite/S2.html
Glasstream15
17th of January 2008 (Thu), 22:42
Just remember that you are not actually using a "telephoto" lens. You are adding a "converter" on the Canon lens. Image quality, even using the Canon converter, will suffer and low light performance will be badly affected.
As far as 3X. Only in someone's dreams. That Canon 1.5X is probably about the best you can do and you may find a 2X, like Raynox, that is not to terrible. But, if the 430mm equivalent of the S5IS is not enough, I would strongly reccommend that you invest in a DSLR and go with long lenses that way. There is no such thing as a cheap way to get long reach and good IQ.
As Robert Heinlein once said "TANSTAAFL".
JustShootin'
17th of January 2008 (Thu), 23:23
Those of us who know anything at all about photography, know that a teleconverter for a compact camera isn't the same as an expensive 600 MM SLR lens, but the fact is, if you know what you're doing, you can get some very good results from the Canon 1.5 converter attached to your S5.
Robert Heinlein didn't say that, I did! :D
Gary
Jims5D
18th of January 2008 (Fri), 12:48
thanks guys, yeah I know I'm not expecting miracles from this converter, when I had said 3x lens, i had just assumed the ad I'd seen that it won't hurt image quality would be true. Some people might give me crap but so far from the s5 I've gotten some pretty amazing shots, I was just hoping to add to for times when I'm in the bushes shooting different animals. As for now a digital slr is a bit too much money for me, I still have a nikon slr (film) I really don't use it much thought, but i've been pleased with the s5 compared to the expensive counterparts. "just shootin" you've gotten good results from the canon. I'll probably stick with the canon i've had no issues with any of their products.
Jon
18th of January 2008 (Fri), 20:26
Well, figure that a 3x TC adapter on the S5 is going to put your lens out around 1300 mm equivalent focal length, which means you'll (even with IS) need a shutter speed of at least 1/400 sec. to minimize camera shake. Are you sure you really need that much magnification? I shoot birds and aircraft and rarely need over 500 mm on my 20D, so about what you'd get with a 1.5x TCon the S5.
You also need to remember that with either a tele adapter or a wide adapter you'll need to restrict your camera to that end (short end wit ha wide, tele end with the tele) of the lens' zoom range.
Katbird
21st of January 2008 (Mon), 19:41
I have the Raynox 2020 I used it from on top of Diamondhead in Hawaii and was amazed at what distance it shot. I would recommend this to anyone looking for a great lens. You will need a tripod. I would post pix. but don't know how... Newbie ... sort of...
Jims5D
23rd of January 2008 (Wed), 15:26
What do you guys think the canon 1.5 or the raynox 2020. I saw some comparison shots with the canon but havn't with the raynox, I've heard other good reviews of the raynox but heard that there may be some blurring, then other people said that the lens is perfect and doesn't blur the image. So what do you guys think between these two, I trust canon but if this lens is actually better then so be it.. Katbird to add attachments, click go advanced and then click manage attachments, that is how to attach a picture, if you had some shots that would be great. thanks..
Bodryn
23rd of January 2008 (Wed), 17:10
I recently bought an S5IS, and also have the S1IS. I think the 12x optical zoom is plenty. If I want a larger zoom, I'd say the best way is to take the picture you get and use something like PhotoShop to crop it and perfect it the best you can. Otherwise if you need more zoom, go for the DSLR. I have one but don't use it much because the S5 is much easier to carry around and will handle most any need quite well. I also love the histogram display in the viewfinder so I know the exposure is good.
JustShootin'
23rd of January 2008 (Wed), 17:23
If I want a larger zoom, I'd say the best way is to take the picture you get and use something like PhotoShop to crop it and perfect it the best you can. Otherwise if you need more zoom, go for the DSLR.
This is a forum about compact Canon cameras, yet it seems like when someone wants a little info as how to improve their compact, the answer is always "get an SLR", and just forget the compact. For many reasons, everyone doesn't have a need for an SLR camera.
I can olny speak for the Canon 1.5 teleconcerter, and I can tell you for sure that it will give you a good amount of extra reach that's well worth the tiny one hundred bucks it sells for. No, it's not an SLR, but it will make you some mighty nice pictures that you would otherwise be unable to reach.
Gary
Glasstream15
23rd of January 2008 (Wed), 17:53
This is a forum about compact Canon cameras, yet it seems like when someone wants a little info as how to improve their compact, the answer is always "get an SLR", and just forget the compact. For many reasons, everyone doesn't have a need for an SLR camera.
Gary
I do have an SLR, in fact 2. One Film one Digital. But I LOVE my little S5IS. I have the Canon adaptor but I have not bought extra lenses for it yet. I would not hesitate to get and use the Canon or Raynox 1.5 converters. But I would reall be concerned about IQ with anything more than 1.5. If the image is not going to be blown up to big, a 2X would probably work okay IF it is a good brand like the things that Lensmate has. But a 3X. NO WAY.
First, you're gonna loose 4+ stops which means BRIGHT sun only. IS is not going to be effective with that much extension, over 1300mm, meaning a tripod is absolutely necessary. And AF is not going to work either.
The S5IS is a fantastic little camera. I have even put my 430EX on mine and sorta defeated the "compact" nature, but it still did a great job and is still smaller and lighter than my XT/18-200 or 75-300 combo. Just don't try to stretch it to far beyond it's design limits. A 1.5X converter takes it out to about 645mm and I really don't want to use that big a lens on my DSLR and I really don't want to pay for an equivalent, on my XT that would be 400mm, lens. And I would have to use a tripod on the XT with that much lens.
So! Grab that S5, grab that 1.5X converter, and post some pics of the results.
BTW, the longest lens I have for my XT is a 75-300. That give me an equivalent digital image of a 480mm but on my K2 film camera, it's a 300. I may have to get one of the 1.4X extenders for my EOS cameras when I get the 1.5X for the S5.
And in the end folks, it's not about the camera or the lens. It's all about the photographer and the PICTURES.
deeplove
23rd of January 2008 (Wed), 19:07
I personally will be going for the Sony VCL-DH1758. I've read only good things about it. It's between that and the Canon TC. But I'm sticking with the Sony. You can also mount it on top of a 500D Macro lens from Canon for a good Macro setup if you ever want to go that route. It's also a cheap lens which you can get it for less than $110 if you look around.
You have options. The Raynox is good, but from what I've seen and what I believe that the camera needs, 1.7x is more than enough. Unless you want to take pictures of wrinkles from more than blocks away with a Point n Shoot.
;)
Research man. That's how you'll get some good info. But word of mouth says that the Sony is a "Great" pair with the S5.
I have an S5 of my own. It takes great shots from the distance with Optical Zoom only, but with the addition I'm sure it will be even better.
DStanic
23rd of January 2008 (Wed), 22:42
I personally will be going for the Sony VCL-DH1758. I've read only good things about it. It's between that and the Canon TC. But I'm sticking with the Sony. You can also mount it on top of a 500D Macro lens from Canon for a good Macro setup if you ever want to go that route. It's also a cheap lens which you can get it for less than $110 if you look around.
You have options. The Raynox is good, but from what I've seen and what I believe that the camera needs, 1.7x is more than enough. Unless you want to take pictures of wrinkles from more than blocks away with a Point n Shoot.
;)
Research man. That's how you'll get some good info. But word of mouth says that the Sony is a "Great" pair with the S5.
I have an S5 of my own. It takes great shots from the distance with Optical Zoom only, but with the addition I'm sure it will be even better.
I had a Sony VCL-DH1758 on my Sony H5. I got rid of the camera so I sold the lens to a member on the forum for under $100. They are going for around $100 on ebay, cheaper than when I bought it [new] a year ago. The new Sony H-series are not 58mm anymore, so it's a great lens to pick up for cheap ;) very sharp I loved it!
Katbird
30th of January 2008 (Wed), 17:45
Hi, sorry it took so long to post a pix. Here are 2 pix from atop Diamond Head in Hawaii.
I think I used the Raynox 2020 but my husband thinks I used the Canon 1.5 either way they are both great. These photos were taken with a Canon S3IS.
kawwauser
30th of January 2008 (Wed), 21:45
here is another recent thread
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=441370
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