anybody think there will be a new 1d mark III?

[Ryan McDede]

im thinking about purchasing a 1d mark III but i just am not sure when they are due to replace it. its been out for a year so figured i would ask.

[wtaccord]

I've seen some rumors about a Mark III N later this year but they are just that... rumors.

[cosworth]

Why don't you just buy it?

[Ryan McDede]

im going to.

[herbe_nelson]

I'd say buy it now. If you were considering a 5D then I may say to wait at least until the 24th before taking the plunge.

If you're interested then there are rumours of a 24mp 25fps entirely redesigned 1D here (see 16th and 18th january 2008): http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_5d2_3d_7d.html

Go for the MkIII though, if I had the money I would! :)

Nelson

[IcoHolic]

The 1D3 is a lameduck model. It hasn't sold well, plagued by problems with the Autofocus that some say aren't fully resolved yet. Not to mention the D3 is a better camera in every way.

I'd wait till the fall when they announce the FF replacement.

[Ryan McDede]

i dont need 24 megapixels. i dont plan on printing out billboards anytime soon. i would be fine with 10 or 12. i have 8 now and its more then enough. i just want speed. i plan on buying so L glass after i get the camera as well.

[SoaringUSAEagle]

The 1D3 is a lameduck model. It hasn't sold well, plagued by problems with the Autofocus that some say aren't fully resolved yet. Not to mention the D3 is a better camera in every way.

I'd wait till the fall when they announce the FF replacement.

:rolleyes:

[pieq314]

The 1D3 is a lameduck model. It hasn't sold well, plagued by problems with the Autofocus that some say aren't fully resolved yet. Not to mention the D3 is a better camera in every way.

I'd wait till the fall when they announce the FF replacement.

For sports (such as football games) or birds, 1D Mk III is a better camera than D3. The full frame sounds nice (and is nice in some aspects, but not in every one), but when telephoto is needed, it will cost your money and your physical strength:

For example, for football games:

1D Mk III + Canon 300mm f/2.8: $4300+$3900=$8200, 8.5 lbs

For the same reach,

D3 + Nikon 400mm f/2.8: $5000+8800=$13800, 12.9 lbs

And I might add that D3 IS marketed as a sports camera.

[gpx4]

The D3 can switch to crop mode making it a crop camera with a faster 11 fps, but lower 6MP resolution. All it takes is one switch.:oops::oops:

For sports (such as football games) or birds, 1D Mk III is a better camera than D3. The full frame sounds nice (and is nice in some aspects, but not in every one), but when telephoto is needed, it will cost your money and your physical strength:

For example, for football games:

1D Mk III + Canon 300mm f/2.8: $4300+$3900=$8200, 8.5 lbs

For the same reach,

D3 + Nikon 400mm f/2.8: $5000+8800=$13800, 12.9 lbs

And I might add that D3 IS marketed as a sports camera.

[pieq314]

The D3 can switch to crop mode making it a crop camera with a faster 11 fps, but lower 6MP resolution. All it takes is one switch.:oops::oops:

After the cropping, you get a lower quality photo, and at 11 fps, it does not focus at all (not even a faulty AF system, but a non-functioning focusing system), and in sports, I do not see much use for 11 fps without refocusing. It cannot meter either but this is a less problem that you can get by with the help of post processing. If I had such a camera, I would stay at 9 fps to keep auto focus.

[DVS_WiNdz]

I'd wait till the fall when they announce the FF replacement.

They're not going to announce a full frame 1D.. all 1D's are 1.3x crop, only the 1Ds are full frame, and was recently released.

[scokar]

The better camera is the one I have. now if only i could figure it out :) this stupid "work" thing takes all my time...

[herbe_nelson]

They're not going to announce a full frame 1D.. all 1D's are 1.3x crop, only the 1Ds are full frame, and was recently released.

But what if they included a crop mode which does maintain autofocus and metering?? Maybe they could have 2 crop modes: 1.3x and 1.6x (for that extra reach).

if it is 24mp with the 2 crop modes then it may drop to 14 or 12mp when cropped.

interesting...

Nelson

[gpx4]

We conducted a test on a 1DMK3 (1 blue dot and 1 non-blue dot) vs D3 shooting small and fast moving objects (RC cars) at a indoor RC race track all with the same setting: ISO 3200, F/2.8 200mm FL 1/500 shutter speed.

I don't know what you are saying about the D3 not focusing at all and not metering either. We reviewed the files and the results are contrary to what you are posting. Have you personally tried using a D3?:)

The crop mode switch i am saying is in-camera, which makes the D3 shoot at 11 fps but with lower MP (6MP) using fx or dx lenses. Your viewfinder (FF) will have a gray light-off around the viewfinder making it a crop mode. Cropping is not done in PP.:D


After the cropping, you get a lower quality photo, and at 11 fps, it does not focus at all (not even a faulty AF system, but a non-functioning focusing system), and in sports, I do not see much use for 11 fps without refocusing. It cannot meter either but this is a less problem that you can get by with the help of post processing. If I had such a camera, I would stay at 9 fps to keep auto focus.

[herbe_nelson]

We conducted a test on a 1DMK3 (1 blue dot and 1 non-blue dot) vs D3 shooting small and fast moving objects (RC cars) at a indoor RC race track all with the same setting: ISO 3200, F/2.8 200mm FL 1/500 shutter speed.

I don't know what you are saying about the D3 not focusing at all and not metering either. We reviewed the files and the results are contrary to what you are posting. Have you personally tried using a D3?:)

The crop mode switch i am saying is in-camera, which makes the D3 shoot at 11 fps but with lower MP (6MP) using fx or dx lenses. Your viewfinder (FF) will have a gray light-off around the viewfinder making it a crop mode. Cropping is not done in PP.:D

from http://www.livingroom.org.au/photolog/reviews/nikon/nikon_d3.php: "When using a DX-format lens, the camera automatically switches to DX-format mode, adjusting the resolution of the camera to 5.1 megapixels. In the DX-format mode, photographers also have the opportunity to increase the speed at which the camera can take pictures by limiting the auto exposure and going up to 10 frames per second or limiting both auto exposure and auto focus and going up to 11 frames per second."

Also in the dpreview hands on preview:

Eleven frames per second continuous without auto-focus tracking
Ten / eleven frames per second continuous in DX-crop mode (AF / no-AF)
so infact if you want to shoot 10fps or 11fps then you have to sacrifice things, one of those being autofocus.

I am intrigued by your test in which you compared the MkIII to the D3 in crop mode. How can 5.1mp be compared to 10mp? But apart from the mp difference there are a number of other things which strike me about calling this a side-by-side test. Crop mode on the D3 is entirely different to an uncropped MkIII image. D3 uncropped side-by-side with MkIII would be a better comparison, but there are so many of those already that there isn't a need for another.

All the best,
Nelson

[Tareq]

I was looking to get 1Ds MKIII, but also want to get 1D3, always the money is the issue, i can't ask which camera to get, both different for different jobs and i do both jobs ;-)
and now people talking about new releases [5D successor and so], seems we will never end then.

[herbe_nelson]

I was looking to get 1Ds MKIII, but also want to get 1D3, always the money is the issue, i can't ask which camera to get, both different for different jobs and i do both jobs ;-)
and now people talking about new releases [5D successor and so], seems we will never end then.

no haha it will never end! :p

As long as people believe that they could be getting better rumour threads will exist.

A rumour that might interest you is the one about the new and completely redesigned 1D that is currently in development and may be released at photokina. 24mp and 25fps. This would fit both your needs. Apparently canon has been testing the camera with 50gb cf cards! :eek:

see the january 2008 updates: http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_5d2_3d_7d.html

All the best,
Nelson

[IcoHolic]

The 1D3 is the last of the 1.3x Crop bodies, there is no doubt in a lot of people's minds.


They're not going to announce a full frame 1D.. all 1D's are 1.3x crop, only the 1Ds are full frame, and was recently released.

[SunTsu]

The 1D3 is the last of the 1.3x Crop bodies, there is no doubt in a lot of people's minds.

Oh....I've heard this a couple of times, but not many. I'm not saying it's not true, but I'm wondering where you have heard it?