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randomgrafix
28th of January 2008 (Mon), 15:32
I posted these on the "macro" forum but was told maybe I'd get better feedback here.

Hi guys these are my first attempts at macro droplets. C&C welcomed.
Only minor sharpening and a little saturation in Photoshop CS2
All shots taken with:
Canon Xti / Canon 70-200 f4L or Canon 70-210 /manual extension tubes / on board flash.

#1
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2029/2225198459_7ba7382466.jpg

#2
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2030/2225986998_fc166f3f6c.jpg

#3
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2095/2225988492_bf93823997.jpg

#4
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2241/2225198165_5a3ce2f9cc.jpg

#5
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2031/2225989072_8e130ff43b.jpg

#6
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2086/2225987258_1019dc16c7.jpg

#7
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2410/2225197595_7c1cccafa4.jpg

#8
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2043/2225989462_a413d5e13e.jpg

The setup for this was surprisingly simple... Thnx Dalantech for the inspiration.

Mark_Cohran
28th of January 2008 (Mon), 17:24
What was your setup?

NewattheGame
28th of January 2008 (Mon), 23:17
You managed a magic crown as well - well done, really nice shots.

randomgrafix
29th of January 2008 (Tue), 14:12
What was your setup?
Thnx for your interest MC.
It was surprisingly easy.

Materials:
colour paper (for background) / plastic bag of water / glass of water / camera, lens and extension tubes.

1) I printed out full sheets of paper in each colour for background on my puter. (7 colours=7 sheets) Stuck paper on wall behind glass of water.
2) Filled the plastic shopping bag with water. Hung it from a shelf in the kitchen.
3) Pricked a pin sized hole in the bag and let it drip into the glass of water below.
4) Used my XTi with my 70-210 or 70-200 f/4L with manual tubes (#1 & #2)

You can't set Av with manual tubes on so first I set my Av (f/:cool: with the lens (no tubes) then I removed the lens and mounted the tubes, then remounted the lens on the tubes.
Tv 1/200
ISO 100
Flash: on board

Easy stuff using all household items and no macro lens, no extra light setup and no stress:grin:
I'm still gonna buy me a Canon 100mm though...:wink: __________________

Antz_Marchin
30th of January 2008 (Wed), 05:51
They look great, was the paper you printed out a solid colour? If so just the motion of the water/the flash made it lighter and darker in areas I guess?

As far as the shooting, just let the bag drip, held the shutter and let it rip in bursts then chose the best timing after???

randomgrafix
30th of January 2008 (Wed), 06:52
They look great, was the paper you printed out a solid colour? If so just the motion of the water/the flash made it lighter and darker in areas I guess?
Yes, the paper was just a solid color.

As far as the shooting, just let the bag drip, held the shutter and let it rip in bursts then chose the best timing after???The drip was a pretty consistent rhythm and I didn't use burst mode... the flash wouldn't cycle fast enough for that but the drip was slow enough to prepare myself and time it.
I recommend prick a small hole first then wider if you need a faster drip.

Ziplock bags are great for easy refilling. My next challenge will be various colored milk.

randomgrafix
30th of January 2008 (Wed), 06:55
You managed a magic crown as well - well done, really nice shots.
Thnx, I was pleasantly surprised to see I got one.

randomgrafix
1st of February 2008 (Fri), 08:54
Thnx everyone for your encouraging comments.

Sorarse
1st of February 2008 (Fri), 12:15
Very inspirational. Thanks.

http://www.88qv.com/net/046.jpg

http://www.88qv.com/net/049.jpg

http://www.88qv.com/net/048.jpg

stargazer77517
1st of February 2008 (Fri), 13:33
Man...I really like em. Looking forward to the milk shots. I can see i might have another experiment to try. Good job!

stargazer77517
1st of February 2008 (Fri), 13:37
Sorarse...Those are pretty good also...but one thing I noticed, The droplets in 1 and 2 you can see the paper hanging on the wall behind. I think it would look better to color the whole drop, but still # 1 has great eye appeal. I like the trail of droplets.

Sorarse
1st of February 2008 (Fri), 13:41
I know. The problem was these were taken at work during a quiet spell, and the only item of colour I had was the lid from my sugar and tea containers, which only measures about 4" square.

For #3 I rooted around in the stores cupboard and managed to find an orange safety vest, which worked a lot better.

randomgrafix
1st of February 2008 (Fri), 13:52
Very inspirational. Thanks.

Thnx Derek, excellent work with the 40D and tubes.
If you angle just a bit more down all the water gets colored.

How's the flash cycle time on the 40D?... I miss alot of great shots due to the XTi's flash giving a "busy" while it takes it's great time to cycle.

I'll be shooting milk this weekend but it's Carnival time here so won't be in office till Wednesday so I'll post then.

randomgrafix
1st of February 2008 (Fri), 13:55
If any one does any more of these you can post it in this thread. If you're posting in your own thread please PM me.
I love to see everyone's versions of these.

Sorarse
1st of February 2008 (Fri), 14:18
How's the flash cycle time on the 40D?... I miss alot of great shots due to the XTi's flash giving a "busy" while it takes it's great time to cycle.



I didn't actually use the pop-up but a flash gun sitting in the hotshoe. I didn't even think to try the pop-up. :oops:

Here's one with 'full' colour - I actually added food colouring to the dripping water to help.

http://www.88qv.com/net/045.jpg

randomgrafix
1st of February 2008 (Fri), 14:30
That looks verrrrrrrry cool.
I actually bought dye for this but I realized I didn't need it... but I'll add them to the milk shots.

What lens did u use with the tubes?

Sorarse
1st of February 2008 (Fri), 14:37
It's an old Tamron 70-210mm f3.8/4.0 that I used to use on my T90. I've only had the 40D for 6weeks, and the only EF lens I have for it is the 17-85mm kit lens, which doesn't give me enough working distance for close up.

randomgrafix
1st of February 2008 (Fri), 14:58
It's an old Tamron 70-210mm f3.8/4.0 that I used to use on my T90. I've only had the 40D for 6weeks, and the only EF lens I have for it is the 17-85mm kit lens, which doesn't give me enough working distance for close up.

well it works pretty good... great results.
Is the 40D up to all the hype?

Sorarse
2nd of February 2008 (Sat), 10:53
well it works pretty good... great results.
Is the 40D up to all the hype?

It's my first DSLR and as I've only had it a short while I am still getting used to it, but so far I have been really pleased with it. I haven't yet found myself wanting to do something that the camera hasn't been able to cope with. If anything it has way more functions and settings than I can easily remember, so I am having to take the instruction book with me to remind me how to set certain things up.

One last droplet for you.

http://www.88qv.com/net/052.jpg

randomgrafix
6th of February 2008 (Wed), 07:11
Nice crown, great capture.
have fun with the 40D it's a great machine. I love both my 300D & 400D (XTi).
They're both excellent machines. I love the feel of my 300D... I wish the XTi was better built for my big hands... maybe there'll be a 40D in my future soon.
I hear the 450D (XSi) is a smidge bigger... hopefully it's around the grip for us big handed men.

daveleeuk
6th of February 2008 (Wed), 07:19
I'd love to do this, nice work though

randomgrafix
6th of February 2008 (Wed), 07:22
I'd love to do this, nice work though
I hope to see some stuff from you soon.

daveleeuk
6th of February 2008 (Wed), 07:27
I'm very new to photography (experianced in editing though), but i dont think i have the right lens to do that

I have a 24-78mm L lens also the only lighting i have is a speedlight flash head, did you use extra lighting?

randomgrafix
6th of February 2008 (Wed), 07:40
I'm very new to photography (experianced in editing though), but i dont think i have the right lens to do that

I have a 24-78mm L lens also the only lighting i have is a speedlight flash head, did you use extra lighting?
No extra lighting, just the on-board flash but you would need extension tubes or some form of magnification ie macro lens, close-up filter, Raynox 250, etc.
I don't know how close the 24-78 can focus but give it a try... it's all about experimenting and fun.

daveleeuk
6th of February 2008 (Wed), 07:42
No extra lighting, just the on-board flash but you would need extension tubes or some form of magnification ie macro lens, close-up filter, Raynox 250, etc.
I don't know how close the 24-78 can focus but give it a try... it's all about experimenting and fun.

I might just do that - thanks!

and.duncan
10th of February 2008 (Sun), 20:46
Hi,

This thread has inspired me to have another go at water drops. Got my setup in the bathroom right now, I'm having trouble getting a crisp look like the ones here.

Setup is a 400D (Xti), 70-200 f/4 IS (IS turned off). Using the built-in flash as I have nothing else (yet).

Taking shots a little over 1.2m away, say 1.5m at 200mm. I tried f/4 initially and have now stopped down to f/11 in an effort to make my focusing less important. Shutter on 1/200th. The blur I'm getting really looks like motion blur to me, the base of the drop (impact zone) tends to be in focus, the rebound drop tends to look a little blurry.

I've tried to focus on what looks right in the view finder by waiting for a few drops and getting them to look sharp. I've also tried just fishing around a little.

I'm not taking the shots in *total* darkness. It's daylight and the blinds are closed but there is some light getting through. I really don't think theres enough at 1/200, f/11, ISO100 for the camera to pick up any ambient light though.

Oh, one other thing. I don't have these extension tubes being mentioned here... To my understanding they allow focusing on something closer than normal is that correct? If I'm happy to shoot from a further distance (within my lens' range) then I don't need one?

I'll go get a couple pics to upload. BBS :)

randomgrafix
11th of February 2008 (Mon), 13:00
Hi Duncan, That is motion blur so I think you should open the blinds and let more light in to obtain a faster shot. The on-board flash with act as a fill flash for some extra sharpness.
Extension tubes are needed for really close shots like the ones I have here... so maybe you should invest in some. I got my manual tubes on Ebay for $15US.
Your setup is just like mine except for the tubes. (Oh and my 70-200 is not IS... someday it will be... I hope)

randomgrafix
12th of February 2008 (Tue), 06:35
I really really like #3, in fact it's my new desktop background (hope you don't mind)!
They're all wonderful though, thanks for sharing!
Hey no probs BrewsterP, on one condition... send me a screen shot of how it looks on your desktop. If you want the full size pic just send me your email.

randomgrafix
27th of March 2008 (Thu), 12:05
Great job guys I love the fact you guys are experimenting with this stuff.
I inspires me as well.

idofotos
27th of March 2008 (Thu), 14:41
These are great guys, Quite a few years ago a friend did this with so equipment from Radio shack, he used a Rheostat timer & some device that the drop moved through, when it broke the beam the rheostat started the timer & you could adjust it forward & backwards
till it stopped the drop, This was all on film & he got some great results also, thought I would throw this out in case someone wants to try to build one, dont know if he has the plans any more

randomgrafix
27th of March 2008 (Thu), 15:48
I think I saw something like that somewhere on the net. Maybe on a Strobist site. The RadioShack thing sounds vaguely familiar.
Thnx for contributing. I'll look into it.