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Deckyon
6th of October 2004 (Wed), 05:50
Funny how when a new camera gets released, the owners of the model it replaces spout off about how much better their model is and how many problems there are with the new one.

It happens all over, I have seen it in the G-series forums, especially when the G5 came out.

Something about elextronics and technology, for those who have not caught on yet: [b]There will always be a new model within a year or two. I will always happen. Get over it, continue to use your camera and quit complaining.

Instead of spouting off, pop up some images and show off.

I have taken almost 600 images with 3 different lenses on both my new cameras and have had NO problems with lockups or bad exposure. Maybe going back and reading the manual will help those with all the complaints. Knowing your equipment will help produce better images than having the best equipment but not knowing how to use it.
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elbirth
6th of October 2004 (Wed), 06:25
Well said. I know I used to especially fall victim to this in the computer industry... I would build a new computer, and by the time I had it built and running smoothly, a new CPU would be just around the corner, or already come out, and I would be so angry that I didn't wait just a little while longer.
You can play the waiting game, but if you do, you'll be waiting forever, because new stuff is always coming out. It's best to get the best bang for your buck (though you still want to buy something you'll be satisfied with) and be content with what you've got until you feel you NEED to upgrade. It's hard to do, but in the long run, it's what's best.

FlipsidE
6th of October 2004 (Wed), 07:00
Well said. I know I used to especially fall victim to this in the computer industry... I would build a new computer, and by the time I had it built and running smoothly, a new CPU would be just around the corner, or already come out, and I would be so angry that I didn't wait just a little while longer.
You can play the waiting game, but if you do, you'll be waiting forever, because new stuff is always coming out. It's best to get the best bang for your buck (though you still want to buy something you'll be satisfied with) and be content with what you've got until you feel you NEED to upgrade. It's hard to do, but in the long run, it's what's best.

- I know the feeling here. I put off buying a new gaming rig for a few months trying to hold off for the next big thing. Thank goodness the computer industry is slowing down a little. I bought the parts for my new rig back in February. I still love it. It still can hang with the big boys. But, I'm big into upgrading a lot. Overclocking your processor and vid card shortens the life of both. But, I still do it anyway because I know that in two years, I'll be upgrading again to the newest, latest, and best. If I get into photography as much as I am into computers, I have a feeling I'll be doing the same thing. I have a Rebel right now that I plan to use for a year or two. By that time, the 1D may even be in my price range, so I'll upgrade again.

It's a vicious cycle, but one I probably will follow.

FlipsidE

evilenglishman
6th of October 2004 (Wed), 07:13
Funny how when a new camera gets released, the owners of the model it replaces spout off about how much better their model is and how many problems there are with the new one.


Maybe I haven't read every post about this, but I haven't heard anyone say that their 10D is better than a 20D.
Everyone has a right to ask questions about a new product and the fact that so many people have mentioned problems is helpful to those who might be considering buying the camera.
It seems to me that you are being overly defensive about your new toy.

elbirth
6th of October 2004 (Wed), 07:58
Funny how when a new camera gets released, the owners of the model it replaces spout off about how much better their model is and how many problems there are with the new one.


Maybe I haven't read every post about this, but I haven't heard anyone say that their 10D is better than a 20D.
Everyone has a right to ask questions about a new product and the fact that so many people have mentioned problems is helpful to those who might be considering buying the camera.
It seems to me that you are being overly defensive about your new toy.

One thread in particular you might want to look at is the one that I think got locked alittle ways down the page talking about the 10D locking up, and comparing the 10D/20D to a Lamborghini/Mustang. In that thread, someone says they think the 10D is better.

It's all a matter of preference, though

mjordan
6th of October 2004 (Wed), 18:44
Brad, it sounds like it would be easier for you to get over others having problems than it will for others to not be concerned, upset or bothered that they did have problems. I didn't have any problems with my D30 or 10D either, but that doesn't mean that I don't believe that others did and still do. It's because of the people that are vocal in their problems that Canon (or any product and their manufacturer) hear about them and get them fixed. I'm glad there were a lot of people that were very loud about the back focus issue with the 10D. Because they were, that meant it was fixed by the time I bought mine.

So rather than getting put out and ranting because people have complaints and problems, you should be glad that they are voicing them rather than just sending their camera back and buying a different brand. If it raises your blood pressure, you don't have to read them.

So while it's too bad that anyone has to get a defective camera, I hope that those that do keep on talking loud and clear on the different forums. You can bet that Canon is paying attention and it can only benifit all of us in the long run.

Mike

SnJPhoto
6th of October 2004 (Wed), 19:29
I hear your point Brad. Once you get past the fact that all cameras are really disposable cameras (its just a matter of time) it really becomes the art that is important.

I have the luxury of owning some pretty nice equipment (in my mind atleast), but would rather have better pictures to show. I admire the folks that use 10 year old cams and can still out perform my work. Now that impresses me!!!...

I prefer to think of your post as a "musing" rather than a rant....

Cheers....

Webster
6th of October 2004 (Wed), 19:35
I have taken almost 600 images with 3 different lenses on both my new cameras and have had NO problems with lockups or bad exposure. Maybe going back and reading the manual will help those with all the complaints. Knowing your equipment will help produce better images than having the best equipment but not knowing how to use it.


I've taken untold thousands of images with any number of cameras, and managed to miss important shots and underexpose or overexpose images on every one of them. They were clearly all defective. But I keep trying with each new model, hoping the latest will solve all my problems. Maybe it's a learning disability.

Chris1le
6th of October 2004 (Wed), 21:55
Funny how when a new camera gets released, the owners of the model it replaces spout off about how much better their model is and how many problems there are with the new one.


There is also a trend of owners of newer models spouting off about how inferior the previous model was. A year ago the 10D was top dog on these boards. You couldn't possibly take a great picture without one. After only about a month after the release of the 20D some people wonder how one could take a great picture with the 10D. :?

Ballen Photo
6th of October 2004 (Wed), 22:36
I've taken untold thousands of images with any number of cameras, and managed to miss important shots and underexpose or overexpose images on every one of them. They were clearly all defective. But I keep trying with each new model, hoping the latest will solve all my problems. Maybe it's a learning disability.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink: Point well taken.
-Bruce