New Firmware Posted 1.05

[RichieHatch]

http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eos20d/eos20d_firmware-e.html

Have not tried it yet but will this evening.
Good Luck

Richie

[Aylwin]

Fantastic, thanks! :D I'll try it out now on my brand new 20D.

[Morden]

I'll install that in a while, though - since 1.04 worked fine on my 20D - I doubt I'll see much change. :)

[Nic]

:!: Remember to remove the lens first before installing the firmware.

[defordphoto]

We have discovered that the version 1.0.4 firmware released on October 4 had a bug in the program that handles the update. In cases where the update was performed with a lens attached to the camera, there were situations in which the firmware could not be updated correctly.

In cases where the firmware was not updated correctly, the camera might not power on, the camera might not communicate properly with the lens and flash, or similar malfunctions might occur.

Canon offers its sincerest apologies to customers who have been inconvenienced by this situation.

Even for customers who successfully updated to the version 1.0.4 firmware without incident, Canon recommends updating to the new version 1.0.5 firmware for the sake of certainty.

Note: The bug described has been fixed in the version 1.0.5 firmware, but please remove the lens from the camera when performing this update.

Customers who were unable to update their camera's firmware from version 1.0.2 to version 1.0.4, or those who performed the update only to find that the camera would not power on afterward, please contact the service center listed on the service information that came packaged with your EOS 20D.

Canon would like to express once again its apologies to all customers who were affected by this situation.

Please note that the actual firmware content of versions 1.0.4 and 1.0.5 is the same. If your EOS 20D already had the version 1.0.4 firmware when you purchased it, there is no problem with leaving it as is. There is also no problem if you choose to update the firmware to version 1.0.5, but the content of the firmware is the same for both versions.

This firmware update applies to cameras with firmware versions 1.0.4 or earliers. It is not necessary to perform this update on cameras that already have version 1.0.5 firmware.

[Belmondo]

Downloaded and installed at 3:00am, Pacific Time.

I need a life. :?

[Nic]

:D
Downloaded and installed - no problems!!

[Nic]

Hi Belmondo,

Don't you guys sleep over there?? Are you still watching the volcano??

Regards,


Nico

[Belmondo]

Hi Belmondo,

Don't you guys sleep over there?? Are you still watching the volcano??

Regards,


Nico

No, I'm a forum junkie. The volcano is nowhere near us(although RFMSports can't exactly say that). I always log on in the middle of the night just to see if there are any fires that need to be put out.

Sleep is overrated anyway.

[Nolz]

damn well wish i had a 20D....just so i can upgrade my firmware!!!!!..

well that and to OWN a 20D......i can dream :oops:

[CoolToolGuy]

Hi Belmondo,

Don't you guys sleep over there?? Are you still watching the volcano??

Regards,


Nico

No, I'm a forum junkie. The volcano is nowhere near us(although RFMSports can't exactly say that). I always log on in the middle of the night just to see if there are any fires that need to be put out.

Sleep is overrated anyway.

Interesting double usage of the middle-of-the-night wakeup call. Some of us just go to the bathroom to relieve the urge, belmondo siezes the opportunity to put out fires with it! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Question: do you typically have enough in you to put out multiple fires, or do you need assistance from another source (faucet, hose, etc.) :lol: :lol: :lol:

Good show! :wink:

Have Fun,

[Belmondo]

Interesting double usage of the middle-of-the-night wakeup call. Some of us just go to the bathroom to relieve the urge, belmondo siezes the opportunity to put out fires with it! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Good show! :wink:

Have Fun,

Reminds me of the story about the fireman who had twin sons. He named one 'Jose.' He named the other one, Hose B.

:lol:

[phili1]

HOw come its not on usa site?

[Dooglla]

Hello all...when I try to update mine when I click on firmware update it say: CF card containing fireware is required to update. Cannot update...then it has STOP. Can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong? I called the canon company and they said if you mess up trying to install the update then your waranty is voided...they say it is best to send it to them. Also, I formated the card using the camera format...is this right?

UPDATE: Nevermind...I just saw that I need a cardreader in which I don't have. :(

[Nic]

The file must first be extracted (run the downloaded.exe file) then copy the extracted file 20D00105.fir to the ROOT DIRECTORY of the CF card. Drag and drop it to the uppermost entry on the CF card. Then insert the CF card in the 20D, go to the menu, etc., etc.

Hope it will work this time.

[Nic]

Belmonto, don't feel alone.

I am such a computer and camera junkie that I spend only about 6 hours per day in bed.

My right hand, working the mouse and the shutters is so sore - it feels as if my knuckels need some grease or oil or something.

I know Mt St Helens is way up north but there is still the San Andreas fault that will keep me awake if I were you!!!

Let's not be pessimistic!

[Morden]

Installed. No problems. :)

[Cadwell]

I called the canon company and they said if you mess up trying to install the update then your waranty is voided...they say it is best to send it to them.

That's a fascinating statement and attitude for Canon to take... after all... they are the people who released the camera with buggy firmware in the first place. They are also the people who just released some firmware which in rare cases whilst properly installed, could render your camera inoperable...

I do hope that's just one misinformed service tech's opinion and not the official line from Canon...

[Dooglla]

I called the canon company and they said if you mess up trying to install the update then your waranty is voided...they say it is best to send it to them.

That's a fascinating statement and attitude for Canon to take... after all... they are the people who released the camera with buggy firmware in the first place. They are also the people who just released some firmware which in rare cases whilst properly installed, could render your camera inoperable...

I do hope that's just one misinformed service tech's opinion and not the official line from Canon...

I sure hope so...cause I was shocked when she said it. I never had trouble with the fireware with the 300D and I'm sure I will be able to do this one also when I get a card-reader.

[phili1]

Here is what you do.

Down load from web site to a folder on you C drive.

Reformat your cf card

Put it in your card reader and delete the the main folder.

Next go to the folder you have the zip file in. double click and when it ask wher to save go to browse and select you cf card reader and open and download it to thee.

Now when you put it in the camera it will now see the file. Follow the instruction to the tee from then on. The LCD screen will tell you what is happening.

At the end shut the Camera off remove the battery and then reinstall teh battery and your done.

[CoolToolGuy]

Does anyone know how big the file will be on the CF card?

I would like to put it on a card by itself, and I would like to know how big the card needs to be.

Thanks in advance,

[Belmondo]

It's small....less than 5mb.

[CoolToolGuy]

It's small....less than 5mb.

Way cool - thanks, Tom.

Have Fun,

[Jon]

The download's about the size of a Large Fine Jpeg. Do you have any cards that big?

[who me?]

Does anyone know when cameras ship from the mfgr with the firmware updates? More to the point, when do we as consumers normally see these updates in new purchases?
I know that with how new the 20D is and the current demand for the new body, most places sell out of them as soon as they get them right now so I would assume that most camera stores go through the 20D stock pretty fast when they get them. Thus, no cameras sitting on the shelves with old firmware.

Just curious from those who know more than me.... :wink:

[Jack W.]

OOps, wrong place. :oops:

[CoolToolGuy]

The download's about the size of a Large Fine Jpeg. Do you have any cards that big?

In my large assortment of 4, 8, 10, 12, 16, and 32mb cards that I use to create photo albums for my digital picture frames I'm sure I can find one the right size. :wink:

What I want to do is put the 1.05 firmware on a card and file it away in case 1.06 comes out and that is screwed up. :wink: That way I'll always be able to go back to something that works (given that 1.05 is solid).

Sorry, just a little day-job thought process creeping into the hobby.

Have Fun,

[Jon]

Burn it to a CD. Leave it on your HDD. It'll be easier to locate either way than if you try using a dedicated CF card for it (also cheaper!).

[CoolToolGuy]

Does anyone know when cameras ship from the mfgr with the firmware updates? More to the point, when do we as consumers normally see these updates in new purchases?
I know that with how new the 20D is and the current demand for the new body, most places sell out of them as soon as they get them right now so I would assume that most camera stores go through the 20D stock pretty fast when they get them. Thus, no cameras sitting on the shelves with old firmware.

Just curious from those who know more than me.... :wink:

I don't have knowledge of Canon's distribution system, but I believe the gear comes by ship across the Pacific Pond to the Canon warehouses (in the USA, at least). I think they are already packed in the box, and I don't think the individual boxes are opened by the warehouse. For a problem as small as this, I don't think Canon would disturb that process.

Soooo, I think it will be a little while before you see 1.05 in retail packages.

But I may be wrong...

Have Fun,

[Chris1le]

That's a fascinating statement and attitude for Canon to take... after all... they are the people who released the camera with buggy firmware in the first place. They are also the people who just released some firmware which in rare cases whilst properly installed, could render your camera inoperable...

I do hope that's just one misinformed service tech's opinion and not the official line from Canon...

Straight from Canon's License Agreement regarding firmware update.

5. DISCLAIMER: THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. THE ENTIRE RISK AS TO THE QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE SOFTWARE IS WITH YOU. SHOULD THE SOFTWARE PROVE DEFECTIVE, YOU (AND NOT CANON, CANON’S SUBSIDIARIES AND AFFILIATES, THEIR DISTRIBUTORS AND DEALERS) ASSUME THE ENTIRE COST OF ALL NECESSARY SERVICING, REPAIR OR CORRECTION. THE ABOVE EXCLUSION MAY NOT APPLY TO YOU IN SUCH STATES WHICH DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OF IMPLIED WARRANTIES.

Canon, Canon’s subsidiaries and affiliates, their distributors and dealers do not warrant that the functions contained in the Software will meet your requirements or that the operation of the Software will be uninterrupted or error free.

IN NO EVENT SHALL CANON, CANON’S SUBSIDIARIES AND AFFILIATES, THEIR DISTRIBUTORS AND DEALERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER (INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION, LOSS OF BUSINESS PROFITS, LOSS OF BUSINESS INFORMATION, LOSS OF BUSINESS INTERRUPTION OR OTHER INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES) ARISING OUT OF THE SOFTWARE, USE THEREOF OR INABILITY OF USE THEREOF EVEN IF CANON, CANON’S SUBSIDIARIES OR AFFILIATES, THEIR DISTRIBUTORS OR DEALERS HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES. THE ABOVE LIMITATION OR EXCLUSION MAY NOT APPLY TO YOU IN SUCH STATES WHICH DO NOT ALLOW THE LIMITATION OR EXCLUSION OF LIABILITY FOR INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES.

CANON, CANON’S SUBSIDIARIES AND AFFILIATES, THEIR DISTRIBUTORS AND DEALERS SHALL HAVE NO OBLIGATION TO INDEMNIFY YOU AGAINST ANY CLAIM OR SUIT BROUGHT BY A THIRD PARTY ALLEGING THAT THE SOFTWARE OR USE THEREOF INFRINGES ANY INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY OF SUCH THIRD PARTY.

http://www.canon.co.jp/Imaging/eos20d/eos20d_firmware-e.html

[Cadwell]

Gosh... best not apply the update then. Too risky.

[Chris1le]

I just read the agreement again. Does this mean that even if you took it to a service center that YOU will still be responsible if the software causes problems? :? Does this also mean all cameras with updated firmware have had their warranty voided? :? What about cameras shipped with the updated software. Is their warranty voided due to firmware update? :?

It seems I'll be waiting a while longer before I buy a 20D. At least until this gets straightened out. :cry:

[Cadwell]

I just read the agreement again. Does this mean that even if you took it to a service center that YOU will still be responsible if the software causes problems? :? Does this also mean all cameras with updated firmware have had their warranty voided? :? What about cameras shipped with the updated software. Is their warranty voided due to firmware update? :?

It seems I'll be waiting a while longer before I buy a 20D. At least until this gets straightened out. :cry:

LOL Most software license agreements read like that. If you look closely you'll probably find a clause somewhere that say's "by installing this, you assign all rights to your imortal soul to Canon, also by proxy those of your children and your children's children for all eternity".

Most of them aren't worth the paper they are written on as local consumer protection laws take precedence.

[Chris1le]

Yeah, I know those kinds of clauses are in most all software agreements and Canon would and will face a huge PR disaster if they enforce it. 8) BUT They may try using it with the initial group of people who send their cameras in for service due to the buggy software. :roll:

[Jon]

Why? They aren't suicidal.

[Chris1le]

Why? They aren't suicidal.

Not saying they would. But they could. One only has to look at one of the initial responses from Canon that was brought up in this thread.

I called the canon company and they said if you mess up trying to install the update then your waranty is voided...they say it is best to send it to them :wink:

[photography By Evangelos]

Ok Did it no problems at all. So far Ok now we will see if it locks up on me once more this weekend. I hope not.


Angelo 8)

[evilenglishman]

Canon offers its sincerest apologies to customers who have been inconvenienced by this situation.

apologies? If I had to send a brand new camera back to canon and wait (how long) for them to fix a problem that they caused then an apology wouldn't be enough.
Give people a free cf card Canon by way of compensation and a good will gesture

[defordphoto]

Hi Belmondo,

Don't you guys sleep over there?? Are you still watching the volcano??

Regards,


Nico

Sleep? Tell me more. It sounds like an interesting activity.

[robertdrake]

Ok Did it no problems at all. So far Ok now we will see if it locks up on me once more this weekend. I hope not.


Angelo 8)

I've only seen one person mention having a lockup since the 1.04 firmware was released. They might have this one licked.

[drisley]

Updated to 1.05. No problems.
But, I NEVER had a lockup or any problems with 1.02 or 1.04.

[CoolToolGuy]

I was just on FM and there are a couple folks saying that even with the 1.04 firmware they experienced lockups when using the grip with 'AA' batteries. :?

Have Fun,

[leony]

Chris: That's not an unusual statement for software of any kind. Did you read Microsoft's Windows XP User Agreement when you installed it?!

And, by the way, Canon will "fix" it for you even if firmware is screwed up for free. What they don't want to happen is be liable for a $100 K shoot-gone-crapy because a photog decided to "upgrade" unsuccesfully.

Timing is everything.

[Chris1le]

I never said it was unusual. I just thought it was interesting. :wink:

[defordphoto]

I was just on FM and there are a couple folks saying that even with the 1.04 firmware they experienced lockups when using the grip with 'AA' batteries. :?

Have Fun,

This lockup scenario will live forever with the 20D. I had my MKII slightly lockup, just turned camera off—then on and all was good, one time and it surely was not because of the 20D.

Just like the 10D and its waaaaaaay overplayed focus issue, anytime the 20D locks up, it will probably mean yet another thread on forum somewhere. :lol:

[drisley]

I agre RFM.
My Rebel locked up once this summer, and twice I got ERR99's, all within one week.
However, after that, I never experienced that problem ever again.
The 20D has been flawless for me, and if I experienced a lockup now, it wouldnt be a big deal.

[defordphoto]

That being said, all this hoopla has kept my money in my pocket until I am assured it's over with. The other thing I am concerned with is the grip and its build-quality...Doesn't sound so good.

This may be one camera I will have to touch in-person before purchasing.

[JLS Photo]

RFM -

All I can say is my firmware update was a nonissue--very smooth.

I could not be more happy with my 20D--the AF improvements, reduced ISO noise, and speed of boot up/image review are simply awesome.

Me is one happy camper. (poor grammar intended ;))

[phili1]

Has anyone performed the update from this site. It concerns me that America does not have it on theirs.

[drisley]

Has anyone performed the update from this site. It concerns me that America does not have it on theirs.
Yup, I have.
Bebit has the update too. And that is Canon's main source for information about updates to firmware, software, etc.
http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/BeBit-e.html

I like how they left the 1.0.4 update there, but crossed it out. :lol:

[Belmondo]

Has anyone performed the update from this site. It concerns me that America does not have it on theirs.

Yes. I did it at 3:00am with my eyes closed. (are anyone's eyes open at 3:00am?) It went very smoothly.

[phili1]

Thanks guys I just did mine without a hitch. Did I read a post correctly, he said his 20 D took better pictures after the update.

[Doom1701e]

RFM -

All I can say is my firmware update was a nonissue--very smooth.

I could not be more happy with my 20D--the AF improvements, reduced ISO noise, and speed of boot up/image review are simply awesome.

Me is one happy camper. (poor grammar intended ;))

Are you serious that your camera performance improved?

[drisley]

RFM -

All I can say is my firmware update was a nonissue--very smooth.

I could not be more happy with my 20D--the AF improvements, reduced ISO noise, and speed of boot up/image review are simply awesome.

Me is one happy camper. (poor grammar intended ;))

Are you serious that your camera performance improved?
He is saying that performance improved compared to his old camera.

However, there have been a few reports of improved 20D performance with some third party lenses, such as sigma.

[friscomgm]

successfully updated my 20D from 1.0.2 to 1.0.5 this evening - no problems to report here.

[Aylwin]

Just for info, the upgrade went fine. Took a few shots last night (is it me or is the flash weak?). Brought the camera with me today to Suzuka but it was raining cats and dogs and then some so it stayed in the bag the whole time. :(

[Vegas Poboy]

I updated Thursday night & Had a shoot with flash on Friday no problems with the camera. But for some reason my camera would not accept the update using a Sandisk Ultra II card I had to use my Lexar. Why I don't know but everything is working fine.