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FCP
5th of February 2008 (Tue), 16:20
I shoot Martial Arts competitions, gradings etc in the UK. Someone I know wants to use a few of my photos for a article in one of the popular Martial Arts magazines. I have had photos in magazines, local and national papers before but this issue has never some up before. Are there any restrictions on using photos of minors in editorial stories?
bildeb0rg
5th of February 2008 (Tue), 17:36
Get a parent or guardian to sign a model release form to cover your arse. It might be an idea to check with the childs club to see if they have anything in place to cover this. Most publishers will expect you, the photographer, to have a least a release in place.
matt090385
5th of February 2008 (Tue), 17:44
As the law stands IN THE UK, if the child is in a public place they are fair game for being photographed by anyone, with or without parental permission. In fact, everyone is fair game.
As a photographer I then own the rights to said image, and can do anything I wish with it (provided I don't break any other laws, eg, libel/slander, blackmail, indecency, etc).
Anyone that tampers with my equipment (eg, tries to delete images from my camera) is committing assault. That includes police officers. Only a court may delete images from my camera.
On private property (eg, in schools, in supermarkets, in homes) you require the permission of the property-owner to take photographs.
(I always honour a parent's wishes re: photographs of their children, though the law doesn't require me to). If anyones attempted to physically interfere with me or the subjects they would be the one breaking the law.
In short you are only required to get the permission of the property owner to take photographers, Iraspective of subject matter.
bildeb0rg
5th of February 2008 (Tue), 18:02
As the law stands IN THE UK, if the child is in a public place they are fair game for being photographed by anyone, with or without parental permission. In fact, everyone is fair game.
As a photographer I then own the rights to said image, and can do anything I wish with it (provided I don't break any other laws, eg, libel/slander, blackmail, indecency, etc).
Anyone that tampers with my equipment (eg, tries to delete images from my camera) is committing assault. That includes police officers. Only a court may delete images from my camera.
On private property (eg, in schools, in supermarkets, in homes) you require the permission of the property-owner to take photographs.
(I always honour a parent's wishes re: photographs of their children, though the law doesn't require me to). If anyones attempted to physically interfere with me or the subjects they would be the one breaking the law.
In short you are only required to get the permission of the property owner to take photographers, Iraspective of subject matter.
All true, but the first time you read those three little words, CHILD PROTECTION ACT at the top of a lagal document, you WILL **** bricks and reach for that release. Any complaint will be vigourously persued by the plod and stick like **** t o a blanket.
matt090385
5th of February 2008 (Tue), 18:05
LOL... Yeah I agree and I dont publish images myself without a release form, Just stating the law as its written,
FCP : Could you not track the name and telephone number of the person in question from the event organiser?
FCP
5th of February 2008 (Tue), 18:12
I may just submit photos of the adults instead but I just wanted to know for future reference. I was under the impression that shots used for editorials did not need a model release. I know that using shots of people for commercial use would require one and I do get one signed on such occasions.
bildeb0rg
5th of February 2008 (Tue), 18:17
I may just submit photos of the adults instead
NOOOO!!! Kids love to see themselves in print. Just try and get a release and even if you can't before the pics are published, contact the club and ask the parent/guardian to get in touch. If you're seen to be making an effort, it counts for a lot.
FCP
5th of February 2008 (Tue), 18:25
Hi bildeb0rg, i may have chased this up but with so many at the competition it would be a pain in the arse. Do you think it would be a good idea for me to include something on the competition forms in future so photos could be used for editorials?
bildeb0rg
5th of February 2008 (Tue), 18:42
Hi bildeb0rg, i may have chased this up but with so many at the competition it would be a pain in the arse. Do you think it would be a good idea for me to include something on the competition forms in future so photos could be used for editorials?
That sounds like a plan. A club I shoot for now has a permission slip signed by every parent in position before they play
Gary_Evans
6th of February 2008 (Wed), 11:52
As the law stands IN THE UK, if the child is in a public place they are fair game for being photographed by anyone, with or without parental permission. In fact, everyone is fair game.
As a photographer I then own the rights to said image, and can do anything I wish with it (provided I don't break any other laws, eg, libel/slander, blackmail, indecency, etc).
Anyone that tampers with my equipment (eg, tries to delete images from my camera) is committing assault. That includes police officers. Only a court may delete images from my camera.
On private property (eg, in schools, in supermarkets, in homes) you require the permission of the property-owner to take photographs.
(I always honour a parent's wishes re: photographs of their children, though the law doesn't require me to). If anyones attempted to physically interfere with me or the subjects they would be the one breaking the law.
In short you are only required to get the permission of the property owner to take photographers, Iraspective of subject matter.
Hooray! The voice of common sense.
The point about deleting images was confirmed by a court ruling only recently when a journalist recieved damages fromthe police after an officer forced him to delete images from his camera.
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