Kiwi - GKPE - General Ramblings (4)

[iKirst]

Wide angle from below so it kinda looks like this : this was taken with a 10-20

http://momentzphotos.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/jj07.jpg
Love that one :)

hehe - yeah in a railway station it could look like she was waiting for someone - on a bench or on the concrete platform leaning up against... :)

I See what you mean now :)

[lil_miss]

I could go on forever I'm sure but heres another.. :) I'll stop now :P just search forums and google images :)

http://www.perfectboutique.com/clothes/Earl%20Jeans01.jpg

[S-S]

I just spent 15 minutes browsing the photos in SS's Flickr account. Amazing stuff. A lot of great photos there SS. Also a HUGE number of photos too.

:oops: thanks peter

i have to install that myself - but i honestly dont need any more distractions... i already don't have time for everything i need to get done :rolleyes:

i'm ALMOST finished the wedding shoot... just have to run the last 175 thru photoshop and upload the last client gallery

[Mediation]

ah ha. Well I absolutely love jeans on females :) especially tight ones. Shes a tall girl. I think ill get her to push out the hips to one side, hands on hips, strong powerful stances. I'm not aiming for a documentary style. Those are good examples for stances. But in terms of a vision its a little bit different.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/photobastard/sets/940064/

^ this guys work is awesome. See how he goes right into a high fashion style. Those strong stances and low angles pop. awesome stuff.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/photobastard/1186033905/in/set-940064/ - WOW!

[Wazza]

Nice blog updates Sarah :)


I've just updated more on mine also...Time for bed!
Only 3 weeks behind :o

http://www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/2008/FEB_0695-s.jpg (http://www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/2008/FEB_0695.jpg)
Into Sydney, Australia


http://www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/2008/FEB_0763-s.jpg (http://www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/2008/FEB_0763.jpg)

Passing over Auckland City..

[Mediation]

I could go on forever I'm sure but heres another.. :) I'll stop now :P just search forums and google images :)

http://www.perfectboutique.com/clothes/Earl%20Jeans01.jpg

Yus!! shes really good at back shots as well :D

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/152/381897276_627768aa71.jpg?v=0
Pow!

Well the shoot is tomorrow, should be good. Ill get the shoot done in an hour and then quickly get to work on them. Get some good ones onto flickr. Hopefully the light is nice and clean tomorrow.

Noob question time: Should I still stop down to F4 - 4.5 for this type of shooting? Focus point right on the eyes again I guess.

[iKirst]

ah ha. Well I absolutely love jeans on females :) especially tight ones. Shes a tall girl. I think ill get her to push out the hips to one side, hands on hips, strong powerful stances. I'm not aiming for a documentary style. Those are good examples for stances. But in terms of a vision its a little bit different.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/photobastard/sets/940064/

^ this guys work is awesome. See how he goes right into a high fashion style. Those strong stances and low angles pop. awesome stuff.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/photobastard/1186033905/in/set-940064/ - WOW!
See - I'm not normally an advocate of add-ons (I just use them quietly ;) ), but that's where PicLens is a great feature, hehe
Makes viewing the work from those two links much easier and faster :)

[TKRFAN]

Might be some people interested in this:

Its time to celebrate an event fifty years in the making! Forest & Bird is marking the 50th anniversary of the Manawatu Branch. To celebrate we have New Zealand’s leading wilderness and wildlife photographer, Craig Potton, giving an illustrated talk “New Zealand Through the Lens” at the Regent on Broadway. Craig is an excellent and entertaining speaker. He does not frequently give illustrated talks in New Zealand, making this a rare if not unique opportunity to see our most iconic images on the big screen in Palmerston North.

The theme of Craig's talk will be our great wilderness and wildlife treasures saved over the past 50 years, and treasures worth saving over the next 50. He will screen a selection of his photographs from New Zealand, the Antarctic, and the Tropics. Of course you’ll invite your friends along for this great evening. As a bonus they will see the show for free if they join the Society on the night, as they will receive a $10 discount on their Society membership.

The show will be at the Regent on Broadway from 8 pm on Tuesday 11 March. Admission ($10/$7 student) may be purchased from Bruce McKenzie Booksellers in Palmerston North, or Svensen’s Photography, Feilding. Admission at the door will be available from 7:00 pm for $12/$8. We've deliberately kept these prices as low as possible, to make this a fun and affordable evening. Thanks to our sponsors PN Community Arts Council and CCNZ, Bruce McKenzie Booksellers, ePics, and Svendsen Photography. There will be a spot prize giveaway including a signed Craig Potton book.

For a sneak preview of Craig’s stunning photos, have a look at www.craigpottonphotos.co.nz You are most welcome to pass this notice on to interested friends and photography enthusiasts in the lower North Island.

[S-S]

awwwww dammit, why wasn't it on while i was down there :-(
sounds awesome

[Don28]

Hi all

Good to see fantastic shots still flowing in this thread! :)

a link I found in flickr (doco, photojournalistic type photog) http://www.flickr.com/photos/61966933@N00/sets/72157600003993988/

this set is specially my fav since its a set taken in my home country philippines - manila. i have seen these kinds of things (people doing drugs on the street corner, etc...) whilst growing up, was a normal part of my life. just shows how sad the reality is and what its like living in this third world countries.

i am planning a trip back to the motherland this year after 18 long years (never been back since we migrated). i am hoping to fit in at least a day or two doing some "serious" street photogs (appart from the touristy snapshots i will be doing loads of), but i don't think i can manage to gather enough balls to do what this guys has done or even venture out to places this guy has been... most of the pictures in this set are taken from the really rough area's in the phils.

[stelari]

Might be some people interested in this:

Its time to celebrate an event fifty years in the making! Forest & Bird is marking the 50th anniversary of the Manawatu Branch. To celebrate we have New Zealand’s leading wilderness and wildlife photographer, Craig Potton, giving an illustrated talk “New Zealand Through the Lens” at the Regent on Broadway. Craig is an excellent and entertaining speaker. He does not frequently give illustrated talks in New Zealand, making this a rare if not unique opportunity to see our most iconic images on the big screen in Palmerston North.

The theme of Craig's talk will be our great wilderness and wildlife treasures saved over the past 50 years, and treasures worth saving over the next 50. He will screen a selection of his photographs from New Zealand, the Antarctic, and the Tropics. Of course you’ll invite your friends along for this great evening. As a bonus they will see the show for free if they join the Society on the night, as they will receive a $10 discount on their Society membership.

The show will be at the Regent on Broadway from 8 pm on Tuesday 11 March. Admission ($10/$7 student) may be purchased from Bruce McKenzie Booksellers in Palmerston North, or Svensen’s Photography, Feilding. Admission at the door will be available from 7:00 pm for $12/$8. We've deliberately kept these prices as low as possible, to make this a fun and affordable evening. Thanks to our sponsors PN Community Arts Council and CCNZ, Bruce McKenzie Booksellers, ePics, and Svendsen Photography. There will be a spot prize giveaway including a signed Craig Potton book.

For a sneak preview of Craig’s stunning photos, have a look at www.craigpottonphotos.co.nz (http://www.craigpottonphotos.co.nz) You are most welcome to pass this notice on to interested friends and photography enthusiasts in the lower North Island.


Ooo, excellent - thanks!

[Nzshrimper]

awwwww dammit, why wasn't it on while i was down there :-(
sounds awesome

fyi - i have sent an email to the powers that be and they have replied apologizing that they never consulted your travel interinery before booking the event..

they have assured me that this will never happen again.. :rolleyes:

[momentz]

i owe, i owe, it's off to progear I go.... :D

[weka2000]

i owe, i owe, it's off to progear I go.... :D
Must not follow temptation :cry:

[lil_miss]

Nice blog updates Sarah :)


I've just updated more on mine also...Time for bed!
Only 3 weeks behind :o

http://www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/2008/FEB_0695-s.jpg (http://www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/2008/FEB_0695.jpg)
Into Sydney, Australia


http://www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/2008/FEB_0763-s.jpg (http://www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/2008/FEB_0763.jpg)

Passing over Auckland City..


Thanks :) The wedding on the 23rd was a fantastic referral from yourself :) Thanks!!

Love those plane window shots.. especially the one of Auckland... you really do strategically place yourself don't you... I've never seen such impressive shots from a plane... Shall I expand your ego anymore? :D :P

[lil_miss]

i owe, i owe, it's off to progear I go.... :D

Must not follow temptation :cry:

Haha its ok - he's not taking any money with him - only bribery :P

[manipula]

Think the girls have covered everything you need Matt. :)

Two things: Empty space in a model shoot is not something to be afraid of, using it right can create great tension across the photo just like space in a landscape. And lastly, are you getting paid for the job? If you're shooting her so she's got example shots to show the jeans supplier and then she goes out and does the proper shoot fair enough, but if you're taking photos for the supplier, you should be getting cash.

[naqs]

who was the one who shipped a couple of iPhones to NZ and had them unlocked? where did you buy them from? how much was it all unlocked and working on the vodafone network?

[lil_miss]

who was the one who shipped a couple of iPhones to NZ and had them unlocked? where did you buy them from? how much was it all unlocked and working on the vodafone network?

I think he got the phones while he was in America...

YOu can get them from Parallel Imported shops for 3x the price at the moment already unlocked.

I'm looking at getting one at the moment but trying to get one from someone in America as it works out to be only $490 NZD instead of $1000.

Unlocking is as simple as installing software on theM :)

[momentz]

So now we have a dilema. Do we buy an 18 month old (as new looking) lens, or pay an additional $350 for a brand new one (and the warranty)?
Lens in question is 70-200 is.

[Nzshrimper]

pay the money - image the cost if it fell over and you had no warrenty...

[manipula]

Standard Canon 12 month warranty or a long third party one?

[naqs]

Unlocking is as simple as installing software on theM :)

oh really? I thought the sim card was different or something and needed something swapped out? I was going to buy one while I was over there but thought I wouldn't be able to connect it to vodafone :rolleyes:

[lil_miss]

Standard Canon 12 month warranty or a long third party one?

Standard 12 month

[lil_miss]

oh really? I thought the sim card was different or something and needed something swapped out? I was going to buy one while I was over there but thought I wouldn't be able to connect it to vodafone :rolleyes:

Heh - you can get a turbo sim thing too which does the same thing... but its really as easy as that :P bugger!

[naqs]

Heh - you can get a turbo sim thing too which does the same thing... but its really as easy as that :P bugger!

Bugger is an understatement :evil:

[manipula]

Standard 12 month

Then I'd save the cash. Lenses don't go wrong all that often, I think you guys have just had a bad run. Make sure the s/h one is completely minty, do some focus tests etc and go with that. For as many people who need to claim on the warranty, there's another hundred or more who are using ten year old L lenses all day every day...

And $350 could buy a lot of nice beers and cocktails! :p

[lil_miss]

Then I'd save the cash. Lenses don't go wrong all that often, I think you guys have just had a bad run. Make sure the s/h one is completely minty, do some focus tests etc and go with that. For as many people who need to claim on the warranty, there's another hundred or more who are using ten year old L lenses all day every day...

And $350 could buy a lot of nice beers and cocktails! :p

My thoughts too.... Progear said they've not heard of any of those lenses having anything wrong with them..

Our 17-55 where the IS died is apparently a common thing and was almost out of its warranty when it happened anyway so we would have been in the same situation.

With the lens being used in a business there is also insurance etc to cover if something happened :P

[manipula]

Question: It's pretty slow on here today so I have taken a look at the equipment section, bodies and lenses etc. Is it just me that finds it really quite amusing and frustrating that that group of forums seems to be nothing but one thread after another of middle aged men sat at their desks congratulating eachother over and over about thier immense wealth and latest purchases, or doing their very best to put people down with their superiority complexes whilst whacking one out over the latest resolution charts?

Or am I just a miserable sod? :?

[Moppie]

Its why i don't spend a lot of time in the equipment forums.

Of course if you happen to like wealthy middle age men..........

[manipula]

My thoughts too.... Progear said they've not heard of any of those lenses having anything wrong with them..

Our 17-55 where the IS died is apparently a common thing and was almost out of its warranty when it happened anyway so we would have been in the same situation.

With the lens being used in a business there is also insurance etc to cover if something happened :P

My mate Mark from back in the UK who does all the motorsport work (and anything else going during the week) uses a second hand 70-200 and a second hand 300 f/2.8L (non IS), the latter of which when he bought it looked battered to hell and back, paint of it and alsorts. Despite them both doing something stupid 40k shots a year, plus whatever went through them before he bought them, they work flawlessly. And they lead a pretty hard life.

[klippe]

Question: It's pretty slow on here today so I have taken a look at the equipment section, bodies and lenses etc. Is it just me that finds it really quite amusing and frustrating that that group of forums seems to be nothing but one thread after another of middle aged men sat at their desks congratulating eachother over and over about thier immense wealth and latest purchases, or doing their very best to put people down with their superiority complexes whilst whacking one out over the latest resolution charts?

Or am I just a miserable sod? :?

In my experience, you are absolutely right. When I first started shooting motorsport, many of the others decided that I had no idea what I was doing, based solely on the fact that I was shooting with less-than perfect gear (You know, MKII, 300 F2.8 etc).

At least now when I use decent gear they can see that my crapiness had nothing to do with the gear I was using.....

But it's funny, it's like any pi**ing contest really.

Cliff

[amitch]

In my experience, you are absolutely right. When I first started shooting motorsport, many of the others decided that I had no idea what I was doing, based solely on the fact that I was shooting with less-than perfect gear (You know, MKII, 300 F2.8 etc).Yeah, now less then perfect gear is a mkIII.

[theflyingkiwi]

But it's funny, it's like any pi**ing contest really.

Cliff

that is because people think it's a pissing contest. but the race really is only with oneself.

While a good photographer knows what makes a good photo and how to pp a photo. one of the other things is knowing when your vision is right for you regardless of what others think..

that's why asking for critique is pointless when you are trying to develop a style.

[sothen]

I don't mind a good critique, sometimes you get pointed something your eye missed - the trick (as with the gear forum I expect) is knowing what to ignore I find - generally it's pretty obvious.

[manipula]

generally it's pretty obvious.

With the gear forum, almost all of it? :?

[klippe]

Nice place. Got a pile of 'standard' shots that will suit the mag, but nothing I'd call good photography per se. Then again, I was only there shooting for the mag so I won't let the fact that it's all pretty plain bother me too much. Neat colours and all but.

250799

Cliff

[klippe]

Oh yeah, I wasn't supposed to be able to shoot the stage, but the nice screen they had in place made it possible (show going on at the moment and can't photograph anything to do with it).

SS, the ceiling is pretty plain nowadays - just a shade of blue with some very subtle white 'clouding'. No mural or texture to it anymore unfortunately. Bit of a bummer.

Cliff

[Sancho]

Dis one:

LOL that image kind of moves when you scroll ... ahem... anyway :)

[klippe]

Since we're not strictly 'editorial' for the article the Civic is included in (ie we're not reporting on an event), I think I should probably use this edit....

250808

Straightened things up a bit and lifted some levels in the seating. I lose a little off the side of the image but the overall gist of the image is still there.

Cliff

[S-S]

fyi - i have sent an email to the powers that be and they have replied apologizing that they never consulted your travel interinery before booking the event..
they have assured me that this will never happen again.. :rolleyes:

well its about time... :lol:

My thoughts too.... Progear said they've not heard of any of those lenses having anything wrong with them..
Our 17-55 where the IS died is apparently a common thing and was almost out of its warranty when it happened anyway so we would have been in the same situation.
With the lens being used in a business there is also insurance etc to cover if something happened :P

f/2.8? if you are looking at the one i borrowed in jan, its a good copy
wait you said it was 18mth old... i think the one i borrowed was only 3mth old

Nice place. Got a pile of 'standard' shots that will suit the mag, but nothing I'd call good photography per se. Then again, I was only there shooting for the mag so I won't let the fact that it's all pretty plain bother me too much. Neat colours and all but.

250799

Cliff

looking good cliff, did you shoot any detail work?

Oh yeah, I wasn't supposed to be able to shoot the stage, but the nice screen they had in place made it possible (show going on at the moment and can't photograph anything to do with it).

SS, the ceiling is pretty plain nowadays - just a shade of blue with some very subtle white 'clouding'. No mural or texture to it anymore unfortunately. Bit of a bummer.

Cliff

stink... were the stars still there? that was the coolest thing about the whole place

[Sancho]

I'm getting a new desktop in the next few weeks and its getting 4gb in it :) I would put extra in my laptop but it can't take more than 2

You will LOVE it, makes working at HI res sooo much nicer, escecially witha few images open!

Yippee! I just learnt that Canon have started a new cashback action. It started on the 1st.
I bought my 24-70 on the 1st
I get 70 Euroniens back

Ohhhh, is it on here? I just bought a 40D a few weeks back :| I want something for nothing!! ;)

all good and well untill you catch him sniffng your knickers on the washing line.. :rolleyes:

Other people do that?!?

Those mac's look saweeeet! should I scrap windows and make the switch?

Only if you never want us to speak to you again :)

[weka2000]

In my experience, you are absolutely right. When I first started shooting motorsport, many of the others decided that I had no idea what I was doing, based solely on the fact that I was shooting with less-than perfect gear (You know, MKII, 300 F2.8 etc).



Cliff
Yeah I find the 1D and 300 less than perfect :lol:
I figure I dont need perfect as I make no money from it.

[jasestu]

Straightened things up a bit and lifted some levels in the seating. I lose a little off the side of the image but the overall gist of the image is still there.

Cliff

Nice perspective correction, makes it quite ordered and tidy.

[klippe]

looking good cliff, did you shoot any detail work?

Only a few shots, nothing that really worked for me to be honest. Did get some nice hallway type shots. The place is overwhelmingly 'yellow' with the lighting they have there, so strangely enough, all the feature work flattens out and doesn't shoot too well. But I did get a few nice shots of the entrance etc.

stink... were the stars still there? that was the coolest thing about the whole place

Nope. I remembered you saying something about it when I mentioned I was going there. Unfortunately the ceiling is now pretty bland.

With more time (as I always say) I could have done some artsy stuff, but the mag dutuies have to come first, so it's a case of getting a bunch of 'standard shots' first, and then see what time is left to do anything artsy/detail.

Cliff

[klippe]

Actually, further to my above post....

The more of these time pressured shots I do, the better I become at getting the required shots in the alotted time. More experience will no doubt mean that I become far more efficient in getting the 'right' shots for the mag, with time left over to play a bit.

I didn't do too bad, but I did find it surprisingly difficult to get nice details shots due to the colours at play.

Cliff

[akiwi]

Hey, my model got offered a modeling job for a new pair of jeans that are coming out in the market. Now I have been given the job to take photographs of her in a pair of jeans without make-up.

I hate harsh sunlight, I also dont like a scene in which is too dark. Im thinking concrete wall, modern public furniture. e.g. benches etc. Perhaps even a playground. Now I am wondering what can I do in terms of a model wearing jeans.

Hmmm. Tips from the glamor boys , please

EDIT: and the lady's.

Congrats.
I love jeans too

Im thinking strong stance, hands on the hips with a twist in the hips. I want to shift away from the cute to a modern approach. Want the pictures to come across as real Auckland. hmm I think ive got a vision.
Sounds excellent.
Just look for examples and try to copy.
Please please please don't forget to photograph her from behind, after all isn't this the nicest view in jeans.

hehe - yeah in a railway station it could look like she was waiting for someone - on a bench or on the concrete platform leaning up against... :)

Maybe see if you can get hold of an old suitcase.
Use empty space like
http://www.peterhansenfoto.de/singapore/galleries/People/Glamour/7794Olli_640.jpg
in some shots. If they want to advertise with it.. it gives them room for adding text.
Also i like photos with some negative space.
HERE (http://www.peterhansenfoto.de/singapore/index.php?gallery=Sessions/2007/09%20September%2008th%20%28Larissa%29)are a few photos

Here is an example with the suitcase. Ok not one of my best shots.. but you get the idea.
http://www.peterhansenfoto.de/singapore/galleries/Sessions/2007/11%20November%2008%20%28Lissy%20Lissy%29/1666Lissy_sm.jpg

Aah.. here you go.
http://www.peterhansenfoto.de/singapore/galleries/Sessions/2007/12%20December%2007%20%28Jenny%29/InABox_Jenny4_800.jpg

Question: It's pretty slow on here today so I have taken a look at the equipment section, bodies and lenses etc.. Is it just me that finds it really quite amusing and frustrating that that group of forums seems to be nothing but one thread after another of middle aged men sat at their desks congratulating each other over and over about their immense wealth and latest purchases, or doing their very best to put people down with their superiority complexes whilst whacking one out over the latest resolution charts?

Or am I just a miserable sod? ,
I don't look there either.. except if I am looking for something specific. I agree there are a lot of prople who have this hobby for the gear collection part of it.... aren't there Tony. ;)

Nice place. Got a pile of 'standard' shots that will suit the mag, but nothing I'd call good photography per se. Then again, I was only there shooting for the mag so I won't let the fact that it's all pretty plain bother me too much. Neat colours and all but.

250799

Cliff
That's cool.
I've never been there.



Ohhhh, is it on here? I just bought a 40D a few weeks back :| I want something for nothing!! ;)



Don't think they do them in N.Z.:(

[naqs]

Only if you never want us to speak to you again :)

hahaha :lol: I was just looking at prices on their website. Looks like I'll be sticking with what I have :rolleyes: apple products are way to overpriced

[Mark Vuleta]

Nope. I remembered you saying something about it when I mentioned I was going there. Unfortunately the ceiling is now pretty bland.

Not right, stars are still there, infact, during the restoration, they improved them somewhat (they twinkle, the lights that is!) and there is still the moving clouds effect that they use to simulate a normal sky. Its actually very cool, last show I went to there, last year sometime, I forgot about them & it wasn't until about 30 minutes in that I looked up and saw them, I pointed it out to the kids & they spent the rest of the night looking up instead of the show.

[iKirst]

Not right, stars are still there, infact, during the restoration, they improved them somewhat (they twinkle, the lights that is!) and there is still the moving clouds effect that they use to simulate a normal sky. Its actually very cool, last show I went to there, last year sometime, I forgot about them & it wasn't until about 30 minutes in that I looked up and saw them, I pointed it out to the kids & they spent the rest of the night looking up instead of the show.
The stars are astronomically correct, too.
The Southern Cross and Oriens Belt are both where they are meant to be

[S-S]

The stars are astronomically correct, too.
The Southern Cross and Oriens Belt are both where they are meant to be

for what time of night? *pushes luck*

i guess you have to be there during a show to see that then... is it only a live theatre now or do they still show movies?

[momentz]

Right, time to test out this lens... what to take photos of.... hmmm

[weka2000]

I agree there are a lot of prople who have this hobby for the gear collection part of it.... aren't there Tony. ;)


I think that was true to say a year ago. Now Im in the position where Im looking at stuff to sell in order to keep the boat afoat.
Having a bit of trouble justifying my gear at the moment :cry:

We are not in a happy place at the moment. 2008 is going to try the weka house I hope it is strong enought to survive. The new job may not have been the smartest move for a number of reasons. Cant go back and cant go foward. Stress is high and cracks appearing.

How ever the optomist in me says that there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Bit hard sometimes when your in the storm to see a rainbow let alone the gold.

[akiwi]

I think that was true to say a year ago. Now Im in the position where Im looking at stuff to sell in order to keep the boat afoat.
Having a bit of trouble justifying my gear at the moment :cry:

We are not in a happy place at the moment. 2008 is going to try the weka house I hope it is strong enought to survive. The new job may not have been the smartest move for a number of reasons. Cant go back and cant go foward. Stress is high and cracks appearing.

How ever the optomist in me says that there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Bit hard sometimes when your in the storm to see a rainbow let alone the gold.
I know you have been pretty good over the last 6 months or so. And at least you have some pretty good photos to show for it.
Good luck. We all go through good periods and bad ones. Just remember, there are millions of people worse off than ourselves.

[weka2000]

I know you have been pretty good over the last 6 months or so. And at least you have some pretty good photos to show for it.
Good luck. We all go through good periods and bad ones. Just remember, there are millions of people worse off than ourselves.

We have surivived worse. And yes I know of person who is way worse off than me yet they inspire me and they dont even know it because of their situation.

[Mark Vuleta]

i guess you have to be there during a show to see that then... is it only a live theatre now or do they still show movies?

I think that is right, they are turned on slowly during a performance, cant say if they show movies there, last visit was for High School Musical (for about the 4th time:evil:)

Anyway, time for a photo
http://www.pbase.com/mark_vuleta/image/93780894.jpg

[S-S]

woah cool! i like

well today i reviewed 7hours of surveillance tapes at high speed, saw a lot of cars drive by and acouple of ppl with prams but no one stopped at my mailbox but the postie

that being said, he did some weird fiddling about with the mail when it came time for my box, tapping it on his tray, looking at 2 envelopes, switching them from hand to hand etc... it almost looked like he was opening the corner of the letter at one point! but then seemed to change his mind and put it in the (locked) box, and when i got it, it had not been opened

looks like i might have to film him again tomorrow... maybe i'll post myself some bogus interesting-looking mail and see what happens

[Mark Vuleta]

Extorsion = family hoilday prices at easter :evil:

School holidays, Christmas, they've got it all worked out:(
Where were you planning on going?

[joeseph]

Straightened things up a bit and lifted some levels in the seating. I lose a little off the side of the image but the overall gist of the image is still there.

Cliff
go on - HDR... ;)

[weka2000]

School holidays, Christmas, they've got it all worked out:(
Where were you planning on going?

Over seas ...

Nelson .....$$$$$$$
Great Barrier IS .....$$$$$
Waiheki IS....$$$$

any more than 3 $ was to much :cry: So we will do someday tripping and avoid flying and motels :lol:

[S-S]

Over seas ...

Nelson .....$$$$$$$
Great Barrier IS .....$$$$$
Waiheki IS....$$$$

any more than 3 $ was to much :cry: So we will do someday tripping and avoid flying and motels :lol:

yeah its a sad state of affairs when $3 is too much money to pay... been there too - literally... :rolleyes:

[Mark Vuleta]

Im working most of Easter but am sure that I can orgainise a day off, do you want to go to the vats one day?

[klippe]

Not right, stars are still there, infact, during the restoration, they improved them somewhat (they twinkle, the lights that is!) and there is still the moving clouds effect that they use to simulate a normal sky. Its actually very cool, last show I went to there, last year sometime, I forgot about them & it wasn't until about 30 minutes in that I looked up and saw them, I pointed it out to the kids & they spent the rest of the night looking up instead of the show.

Oh so you mean fibre optics or something? Whatever the case, the ceiling was a bland blue for me.... :( No moving clouds or anything like that running while I was there. Still, the place is not too shabby to look at as it is. I cannot imagine the man hours it must have taken to do the interior stuff, just so stupidly elaborate.

I did get the offer of a return trip at some stage, and I think I might take the guy up on that offer.

Cliff

[weka2000]

Im working most of Easter but am sure that I can orgainise a day off, do you want to go to the vats one day?

Its an idea. Will see what we can do.

I wanted to have a family hoiday as we have never had one in 14 yrs or marriage. I always stayed home to look after dog or Sandra was on shifts. Now no dog and 4 days off and no bloody $$$$$$$...........cant win :lol:

I want to take family up to the big cat zoo up north for a day trip, may also go to Tauranga and stay at hotel mummy :lol:

[Mark Vuleta]

I did get the offer of a return trip at some stage, and I think I might take the guy up on that offer.

Cliff
Could be fibre optics, not sure but I would be keen to come along if you get a return trip.

A friend of mine was involved in the refurbishment (plumbing strangly enough:rolleyes:)
They had a more or less free hand as far as costs go, everything had to be returned to origional, really expensive big copper, pain in the rear cast iron and some really intricate lead work. I think they were working on charge up, dream job (for plumbing)

[Nzshrimper]

money is not everything...

[weka2000]

money is not everything...
Couldnt agree more

[Mark Vuleta]

I want to take family up to the big cat zoo up north for a day trip,

Really expensive, did the standard hour tour $60.00 per adult, $30.00 per child. $200.00 per adult if you want to get close to the cubs (not that the cubs are cubs any more, their pretty big cats now)
http://www.pbase.com/mark_vuleta/image/93618980.jpg

[S-S]

i wish they had given the same attention to His Majesty's Theatre & arcade instead of ripping it down for a ground level gravel carpark

[Nzshrimper]

time to work out what I am doing.. - a few things have changed in the last few days - so I need to workout where we go from here... time to take control rather than going with the flow..

[S-S]

Really expensive, did the standard hour tour $60.00 per adult, $30.00 per child. $200.00 per adult if you want to get close to the cubs (not that the cubs are cubs any more, their pretty big cats now)


gee thats crazy, you can go in with lion cubs at rotorua for a fraction of that cost

[Nzshrimper]

haha that i would pay to see... a seagul in a cage with a lion....

[Mark Vuleta]

gee thats crazy, you can go in with lion cubs at rotorua for a fraction of that cost

I agree, I think Auckland Zoo is better the Zion park.

[weka2000]

Cheers for that Mark ............ Looks like thats off the cards. At this rate we will stay home and end up at the auckland zoo :lol:

[S-S]

haha that i would pay to see... a seagul in a cage with a lion....

the seagull won... and has photos so it must have happened :p

[weka2000]

haha that i would pay to see... a seagul in a cage with a lion....

My moneys on the seagull :lol:

[Mark Vuleta]

Cheers for that Mark ............ Looks like thats off the cards. At this rate we will stay home and end up at the auckland zoo :lol:

See above:lol:

I used the 200 at 2.8 and still got lots of interference from the wire fences, I should have put the TC on, may have made a difference. It's not overly flash. Talk to the flying kiwi to see what Hamilton Zoo is like. I didn't know they had one until I came back from the Rally into Hamilton last year & saw the signs:rolleyes:

[weka2000]

So just rang mummy. Looks like Tauranga. I can afford the petrol :lol:
Might need to arrange a mini Bay of Plenty GKPE.

Clive,Sothen, Jastu (spelt that wong) Magpie

[sothen]

What day??


you time it poorly - last time I missed you and this time I'm off to Well for a wedding on the 15th and then directly to Chch for another 2 over Easter...... back Monday the week after Easter..... Sh1t b1scuits!

[tag141]

..... Sh1t b1scuits!

Find them next to the Tim Tams.

[lil_miss]

Hey tag - did you get that disc?

[Sancho]

Jeebers you lot are a chatty bunch tonight!

We had some fun lastnight LOL .. pretty much zero post processing ... framing and SLIGHT sharpen.

http://stuff.visualtwist.com/photos/photo_of_day/outside_office.jpg

[Sancho]

hahaha :lol: I was just looking at prices on their website. Looks like I'll be sticking with what I have :rolleyes: apple products are way to overpriced

*pat pat pat ... theres a good boy! LOL

[Wazza]

Thanks :) The wedding on the 23rd was a fantastic referral from yourself :) Thanks!!

Love those plane window shots.. especially the one of Auckland... you really do strategically place yourself don't you... I've never seen such impressive shots from a plane... Shall I expand your ego anymore? :D :P

Bwhahah, that's called an aviation geek and regular flying.
As I said either on my blog or here, all the flights, such as Phuket to Bangkok, specifically sat on the left side of the plane as the flight is heading North, with flying

Next time you fly, check out http://www.seatguru.com/
Will give an idea.

My favourite is just behind the wing, as usually it's near the centre of the cabin, smoother ride, nice clean view with some wing details in the foreground. :oops:


In other news, I also just woke up and breathed a big sigh of relief from the wedding I recently shot in Napier...

We got our wedding photos yesterday and oh my gosh there amazing, Thank you so much you did a fantastic job!!

We both really appreciate it

Great to know something I did was liked

[S-S]

Jeebers you lot are a chatty bunch tonight!

We had some fun lastnight LOL .. pretty much zero post processing ... framing and SLIGHT sharpen.


WOW!

that's an AWESOME unique shot, really excellent job, love it

[theflyingkiwi]

My favourite is just behind the wing, as usually it's near the centre of the cabin, smoother ride, nice clean view with some wing details in the foreground. :oops:

that's also above the main fuel tank too, so if something where to happen then you will be the first to go.

and if something was to happen to the engines then you would see that too

not that I am saying it's a bad place to sit of course.

[Sancho]

maybe i'll post myself some bogus interesting-looking mail and see what happens

I have to do that every Christmas and Birthday :(

haha that i would pay to see... a seagul in a cage with a lion....

LOL ... poor kitty!

What day??


you time it poorly - last time I missed you and this time I'm off to Well for a wedding on the 15th and then directly to Chch for another 2 over Easter...... back Monday the week after Easter..... Sh1t b1scuits!

Don't forget meeee :D LOL

[theflyingkiwi]

Jeebers you lot are a chatty bunch tonight!

We had some fun lastnight LOL .. pretty much zero post processing ... framing and SLIGHT sharpen.

http://stuff.visualtwist.com/photos/photo_of_day/outside_office.jpg

what I would like to know is how you got power to a pc out in the middle of no where.

[Sancho]

WOW!

that's an AWESOME unique shot, really excellent job, love it

Thanks man :) You should have seen the looks we were getting from the few people out for a walk... these two guys sitting around a going computer and lamp out in the lagoon while this other clown (me) is lying in the mud taking photos LOL. Especially as about 15 minutes before that shot it was pissing down with rain!

Packing up in pitch black wasn't all that fun though :|

[Sancho]

what I would like to know is how you got power to a pc out in the middle of no where.

Generator :) I have a wide shot of the whole setup for the skeptics :p

[tag141]

Hey tag - did you get that disc?

I was just about to PM thanks but I'll do it here. Got the disc the other day, loaded it tonight, so thanks to you and Momentz for copying it and mailing it...but... it won't take my (genuine before any one says) key :cry:. Maybe back to XP for the time being?

[S-S]

Generator :) I have a wide shot of the whole setup for the skeptics :p

lol generator is a lot of trouble to go to when all you needed was photoshop... tough being a purist hey ;)

[Wazza]

that's also above the main fuel tank too, so if something where to happen then you will be the first to go.

and if something was to happen to the engines then you would see that too

not that I am saying it's a bad place to sit of course.

:lol:

Statistically over the wing is pretty safe - very strong..

Just behind the wing, and the next few rows is pretty dangerous in a crash.. The area that breaks off! :lol:
And finally the last few rows is often safe also, as it's detatched and not had the full impact of a crash.

[joeseph]

maybe i'll post myself some bogus interesting-looking mail and see what happens
white powder with anthrax leaflets should do the trick...

[sothen]

Sancho!!!


GOLD.

that's all I'll say........ wish you hadn't centre-framed it is all...... hahaha now that's all I'll say.

I'm booking you in for the Monday or Tuesday of Easter - does that suit? I'm over in Brunner the week before....

[Sancho]

lol generator is a lot of trouble to go to when all you needed was photoshop... tough being a purist hey ;)

We wanted to do it properly, I know I could do it in PS in about 30 seconds, besides it was worth it, I was nearly wetting myself rolling around in the mud laughing at this poor old pc out in the rain, so surprised it didnt blow up. Well the monitor did, but thats another story :)

[lil_miss]

In other news, I also just woke up and breathed a big sigh of relief from the wedding I recently shot in Napier...

Great to know something I did was liked

Look forward to seeing some on your blog :)

[momentz]

I was just about to PM thanks but I'll do it here. Got the disc the other day, loaded it tonight, so thanks to you and Momentz for copying it and mailing it...but... it won't take my (genuine before any one says) key :cry:. Maybe back to XP for the time being?

bugger. the disk is a volume license version. perhaps there's a difference between that and standalone versions, although I assumed that all enterprise vista's would be volume licensed.

[Sancho]

yeah, the tuesday is possibly better, but either one is good.

I didnt overly want to centre frame it, but wanted to get all that sky in. There are quite a few other shots that arnt centered, I took quite a few :) Definately the most fun shoot I have done ... we are already planning another ... besides getting soaked everyone had sooo much fun!

[momentz]

I'm liking IS at 200mm.. :D both shots 1/25 handheld.. easy to see which is which

[Mediation]

Hey all

Dave it is for the modeling people so I am doing it for experience. I don't care about money. I only want to produce good shots. :)

My new idol in photography:
http://www.phillipgraybill.com/

Awesome. I just love the raw sort of look. "This is what you get", look to them. They just look so natural and seem to pop out at me. I wish I could make my photographs look like his...

[joeseph]

I'm liking IS at 200mm.. :D both shots 1/25 handheld.. easy to see which is which
feel free to test same with bricks moving at 100kmp/h (Kirst may be able to help there)
I'd like to know if mode 2 IS is rubbish or not when panning.

[tag141]

bugger. the disk is a volume license version. perhaps there's a difference between that and standalone versions, although I assumed that all enterprise vista's would be volume licensed.

Doesn't really cause too many problems. There's a legit way of extending the 30 day activation out to about a year. Thanks anyway. I'll still cough up for a beer.

I'm liking IS at 200mm.. :D both shots 1/25 handheld.. easy to see which is which

Watch out, bricks. iKirst will be here shortly telling you exactly what they are, who makes them and how many she can get into her Ford.;)

[low orbit]

Jeebers you lot are a chatty bunch tonight!

We had some fun lastnight LOL .. pretty much zero post processing ... framing and SLIGHT sharpen.



!

That's all I have to say about that one. Brilliant. :cool:

Speaking of shots, do you have any of me from our shoots? Mrs would like them if you didn't delete out of sheer horror :lol:

Cheers, Shane.

[Moppie]

I'd like to know if mode 2 IS is rubbish or not when panning.

It works for me when ever I uses Chris's lens.

[manipula]

Hey all

Dave it is for the modeling people so I am doing it for experience. I don't care about money. I only want to produce good shots. :)

My new idol in photography:
http://www.phillipgraybill.com/

Awesome. I just love the raw sort of look. "This is what you get", look to them. They just look so natural and seem to pop out at me. I wish I could make my photographs look like his...

Sancho, that shot is pretty damned cool. Great light in the clouds behind too.

Matt, you big soft berk. The money isn't simply about lining your pcokets, by doing jobs free you're devaluing both yourself and other photographer's work. Once people begin to see decent stuff for free, there's no room left to charge for stuff. It's why clueless oiks doing weddings for $300 on their compacts rile the hell out of pro's who charge more and give more. The cr@p devalues the good stuff.

If you're doing it for free, make the first and last time dude. Seriously. :)

[lil_miss]

Anyway, time for a photo
http://www.pbase.com/mark_vuleta/image/93780894.jpg

I love this - whereabouts are those dunes?

[Sancho]

!

That's all I have to say about that one. Brilliant. :cool:

Speaking of shots, do you have any of me from our shoots? Mrs would like them if you didn't delete out of sheer horror :lol:

Cheers, Shane.

Thanks brother :) I'll take a look and see what i have, the ones on the town meet were blurry as, and I think I just took 1 at the beach in the group shot... not sure.

[Mediation]

Sancho, that shot is pretty damned cool. Great light in the clouds behind too.

Matt, you big soft berk. The money isn't simply about lining your pcokets, by doing jobs free you're devaluing both yourself and other photographer's work. Once people begin to see decent stuff for free, there's no room left to charge for stuff. It's why clueless oiks doing weddings for $300 on their compacts rile the hell out of pro's who charge more and give more. The cr@p devalues the good stuff.

If you're doing it for free, make the first and last time dude. Seriously. :)

Oh I mean what happened is that she got approached by this guy that creates advertisements for Jeans. And he said that she needs photos of herself with no make-up and wearing jeans... So im doing it for her personally. Not for the guy himself to use. He is a professional photographer and will actually take the photos for the job. :)

I cant quite put my finger on this guys style! I mean its not ground breaking, its simple. But I just like the work so much!
http://www.phillipgraybill.com/

What is the secret behind his work. I will never know.
Can anyone tell me what PP'ing I could do to achieve his style of photographs?

[Mark Vuleta]

whereabouts are those dunes?

Top end of Ninety Mile Beach, turn off to the left about 5km north of the start of the shingle road to Cape Reinga.

They have started work on sealing the road, lots of civil work right at the cape parking area, still going to take a few years though but the road is a lot better than the last time I was up there, about 12 years ago

[momentz]

Watch out, bricks. iKirst will be here shortly telling you exactly what they are, who makes them and how many she can get into her Ford.;)


:lol:

[kaypony]

that's also above the main fuel tank too, so if something where to happen then you will be the first to go.

and if something was to happen to the engines then you would see that too

not that I am saying it's a bad place to sit of course.
I have a little book I carry (on international flights anyway) that nicely explains how to land a 747 if needed and where to sit so I reduce my chances of dying. It's written by an experienced pilot so cross fingers its right. The book also suggests the back is the best place due to fuel tanks as mentioned above. Apparently why the flight attendents ask you to put up your windows before landing is so when the engines all catch on fire, they can see which would be the safest exit to use. While in SA I was volunteering with a former Delta pilot who confirmed all this. On that happy note, good night all.

[kaypony]

I love this - whereabouts are those dunes?
Nice Mark, sorry I couldn't find the original post. Looks like a windows desktop background that comes with the computer. That's not a bad thing though.

[kaypony]

I love this - whereabouts are those dunes?
Nice Mark, sorry I couldn't find the original post. Looks like a windows desktop background that comes with the computer. That's not a bad thing though.

[Sancho]

http://stuff.visualtwist.com/photos/photo_of_day/throw.jpg

[Nzshrimper]

Jeebers you lot are a chatty bunch tonight!

We had some fun lastnight LOL .. pretty much zero post processing ... framing and SLIGHT sharpen.

http://stuff.visualtwist.com/photos/photo_of_day/outside_office.jpg

two words - it's centered

apart from that cool

[low orbit]

Thanks brother :) I'll take a look and see what i have, the ones on the town meet were blurry as, and I think I just took 1 at the beach in the group shot... not sure.

Cheers :)

Must get out for another shoot soonish.

Upcoming ; Drags, Ruapuna, April 6.

[Nzshrimper]

What day??


you time it poorly - last time I missed you and this time I'm off to Well for a wedding on the 15th and then directly to Chch for another 2 over Easter...... back Monday the week after Easter..... Sh1t b1scuits!

pop in for a hello when down...

[manipula]

I bet that was theraputic, throwing computers about! ;)

Sorry Matt, I got the wrong end of the stick before. :oops:

[tongmaster]

Great photos everyone. Love the PC in the field!

Just home from seeing the play "Black Watch" - absolutely amazing! Don't miss it if it comes to a theatre near you. Photos nae allowed.

[Nzshrimper]

:lol:

Statistically over the wing is pretty safe - very strong..

Just behind the wing, and the next few rows is pretty dangerous in a crash.. The area that breaks off! :lol:
And finally the last few rows is often safe also, as it's detatched and not had the full impact of a crash.
from 30,000 feet the bang is all you might remember... no matter where you sit... statistically speaking there is a 5% survival rate in a aircraft crash - however at airports this increases to a whooping 28% - if a main fuel tank goes pop.... its goodbye where ever you are sitting....:rolleyes:

[Nzshrimper]

Cheers :)

Must get out for another shoot soonish.

Upcoming ; Drags, Ruapuna, April 6.

br utes and endro race - in two weeks....

[tag141]

however at airports this increases to a whooping 28% - if a main fuel tank goes pop.... its goodbye where ever you are sitting....:rolleyes:

even having a cappuccino in the terminal?:(

[Nzshrimper]

even having a cappuccino in the terminal?:(
at queenstown airport yep

[tag141]

at queenstown airport yep

blowing up the airport is probably the best thing to happen to it. In fact, blow up Queenstown and save us all.

[Raikyn]

Have to let the cat out of the bag, secretly manipula likes HDRs :lol:

[manipula]

Hehe, you mean you've seen my comment on your Flickr? ;)

The one to which I referred wasn't bad... I'll admit that much! :p

[Nzshrimper]

Will come back to your photos Chris. :)
still waiting :rolleyes:

[manipula]

still waiting :rolleyes:

Doh! :D Forgot after the servers here sh!t their cornflakes last night...

[momentz]

Ok, in case anyone's interested. We have two lenses for sale.

One canon 17-55mm f2.8 IS, and one sigma f2.8 70-200 to sell before close of business friday.

Anything above $1100 each will take them away. Buyer must have cash and be able to pickup from newmarket on Friday this week.

If nobody wants em, they're being traded in on friday arvo.

You all know the 17-55, this copy is as good as they get, 1 year old and brand new IS mech.

The sigma is the newer model EX DG Macro, focussing down to just under a meter at all zoom ranges.

Optically both are superb and have been used for wedding photography to produce outstanding results.

[low orbit]

br utes and endro race - in two weeks....

cheers Chris :)

[manipula]

For Chris:

First batch:

The one with the woman and the coffee is quite nice. The depth of field seperates the subjects nicely. Could maybe bump the contast a touch? Bit more oomph in the whites. The second shot in the boardroom is effective but lacks true wow qualities. The bird in the white (yum) looks slightly odd with her jaw. and the nearest chair to us intrudes into the image a bit, attracting the attention of the eye a lot. The Macs are good, serves its commercial purpose well I suspect, the reflection on the further away ones maybe a little hot or distracting but I guess there's little you can do about that. The two night ones are great, lots of colour and a bit nice to look at, exactly what they'll want. The gym shots does what it says on the tin I guess.

Second Batch:

The foods shots are ace, though maybe a hint of curves and saturation to bit some punch in the colours. Dude on the bed is cool, like the framing, and as always using uber cool Macs :roll: makes it look pretty doesn't it? Slight hint of a double chin though :? The purple room rocks. End of. The bird on the bed is clothed so you obvioualy failed there. ;) Good shot, slightly 'flat' looking and I could maybe lose the strand of hair from below her eye to her ear, see what it looks like? The one where they are having their breakfast meeting doesn't do much for me personally. Too much of the guy's back and it closes off the picture. Sorry.

The last room shot is cool, shows the room well, once again the tiniest of tweaks on the levels wouldn't hurt but that's nit-picking. Not as cool as the purple room shot mind! :p

That do you? ;)

[Sancho]

I bet that was theraputic, throwing computers about! ;)


LOVED IT!!! :)

We have other ones where we beat up the monitor with a keyboard, asnapped it just as a pile of keys are flying off LOL

[Nzshrimper]

cheers Chris :)
thats the weekend of 15th

[Nzshrimper]

For Chris:

First batch:

The one with the woman and the coffee is quite nice. The depth of field seperates the subjects nicely. Could maybe bump the contast a touch? Bit more oomph in the whites. The second shot in the boardroom is effective but lacks true wow qualities. The bird in the white (yum) looks slightly odd with her jaw. and the nearest chair to us intrudes into the image a bit, attracting the attention of the eye a lot. The Macs are good, serves its commercial purpose well I suspect, the reflection on the further away ones maybe a little hot or distracting but I guess there's little you can do about that. The two night ones are great, lots of colour and a bit nice to look at, exactly what they'll want. The gym shots does what it says on the tin I guess.

Second Batch:

The foods shots are ace, though maybe a hint of curves and saturation to bit some punch in the colours. Dude on the bed is cool, like the framing, and as always using uber cool Macs :roll: makes it look pretty doesn't it? Slight hint of a double chin though :? The purple room rocks. End of. The bird on the bed is clothed so you obvioualy failed there. ;) Good shot, slightly 'flat' looking and I could maybe lose the strand of hair from below her eye to her ear, see what it looks like? The one where they are having their breakfast meeting doesn't do much for me personally. Too much of the guy's back and it closes off the picture. Sorry.

The last room shot is cool, shows the room well, once again the tiniest of tweaks on the levels wouldn't hurt but that's nit-picking. Not as cool as the purple room shot mind! :p

That do you? ;)

yep - that will do.. a few tweaks to be made some on webpage allready as well as few different ones...

www.hotelso.co.nz (http://www.hotelso.co.nz)

[Mediation]

aww I tried to copy that guys photographs. I dont know if he uses film or not. But after reading some tutorials on how to produce film grain. And using my own idea of how color looks through film I tried it.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2007/2312361022_573713b842.jpg?v=0

I failed to get that look :(
Phillip GrayBill and his mysterious aesthetic look is just too hard to match.

[manipula]

You're starting from the wrong place Matt, look how his stuff is lit, I'd wager a good portion of those studio shots are ring flash... A lot of his other fashion stuff is about the light he's using in the first place, something your shot up there ^^^ lacks in as much strength.

[Mediation]

ohh so its all about the light he is using. Hmm I wish I had a flash.

Gosh it must take a long time to master light. Is that all it really is?

BTW Dave, would be good if you wrote that comment on my flickr (please). So other people can go "ahh true :)" because others are wondering as well. Not just me.

[manipula]

A normal speedlight wouldn't get you any of those shots mounted on the camera. He's using off camera lighting for a lot of them, what looks like a ringlight or a softbox for a bunch, and the rest is carefully controlled ambient light or room lighting.

His Iceland set is inspiring, the rest although very good, isn't something a thousand other fashion photographers aren't doing. But yeah, the Iceland thing, big thumbs up. :)

[manipula]

And the PP technique, if you're trying to replicate the look would I think be achieved best through shooting a colourful scene in the first place, tweaking your curves into a slight 'S' shape, replicating film, then desaturate, play about with some dodging and burning and add your grain. Or that's where I'd start.

[Mediation]

I suppose what I can gather is that I cannot actually tell light sources yet :( so if I look at a photo I have got no clue how they used the light. Dammit, that is kind of worrying. I suppose I should go out and start trying to see light when I photograph now. I think thats what Tony was trying to tell me all along.

Amazing, never knew I had a disability with seeing light. I suppose ill just keep photographing and try my hardest to shoot for the light. Dave, I guess you can see the light, because you can tell what he is using as previous examples, e.g. guy with nikon speedlight. Who else can see the light?

I suppose you all can by now :)

[manipula]

I think everyone needs to be able to 'read' light sources and then use that ability to control it how you want, in order to be truly sh!t hot with a camera.

Matt, do you want me to try and explain it to you?

[sothen]

The BAND Elwood, The BAND!!!....... can you see it?? can you see the light?



ok - no people in a shot..... a challenge for me......

My backyard - true story:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff212/pastey65/IMG_2047.jpg


now to work out a tryptich. :D

[manipula]

I need to pay you a visit Brent. ;)

[sothen]

any time fella - anytime.

I believe I found a 365 location...... you like how I used my flash off camera there? :D

[Sancho]

another shot, few minutes later, more colour and better framing i think

http://stuff.visualtwist.com/photos/photo_of_day/outside_office_2.jpg

[tag141]

now to work out a tryptich. :D

...the band...the band...I see the light...

Remember that you simply can't chop that picture into 3.:p

[Mediation]

I think everyone needs to be able to 'read' light sources and then use that ability to control it how you want, in order to be truly sh!t hot with a camera.

Matt, do you want me to try and explain it to you?

Yes Please. If you cant be bothered than dont worry I can always try and experiment / read until I do get it. I mean I know harsh sunlight and under shade, next to a window light.

But when a flash is thrown into the mix than im confused. But really I am not sure what light can do to a picture. I know a picture looks pretty when the light is right.

[Nzshrimper]

another shot, few minutes later, more colour and better framing i think

http://stuff.visualtwist.com/photos/photo_of_day/outside_office_2.jpg

much better - its now a windoze vista advert... :p

[tag141]

another shot, few minutes later, more colour and better framing i think



Almost needs a caption competition..."Guy in the shop said it was wireless!!"

Don't mean to devalue your photographic skills and bring them down to my level by cheapening them with something as mundane as a newspaper caption competition...however...