Kiwi - GKPE - General Ramblings (4)

[Don28]

Yes SS, proly thinking if i'm there to snap them doing something they shouldn't be. or thinking about flogging my equipment from me. hope they didn't follow me home :P

I actually wouldn't mind documenting these kids life in the "street". how to make a start not too sure about. I guess I will need to inform a group so they know that I am not there to bust them! :P Might make a start at the local skate park...

[weka2000]

But it's photography nevertheless. Sex with a prostitute is still sex.

Yes all the links were photography. People who are out there doing it and making money.

[S-S]

But it's photography nevertheless. Sex with a prostitute is still sex.

dave doesnt respect ansel adams? :shock:

[::John::]

dave doesnt respect ansel adams? :shock:

not in the morning :lol:

[S-S]

boy im glad i dont drink coffee... ;-)

i bought a soldering iron today... time to stop going and borrowing dad's
im going to modify my cable shutter remote to fit an extension cable / radio trigger

[Mediation]

am luvin it discolizard! :) however I have not have much time to play around with it recently. been to friggin buzy w/ work & home stuff, by the time I finally get a chance its too late for me to go out & do something. one thing I can say about it is that it aint easy lugging around in public without getting loads of attention (and also the weight):lol: kinda pisses me off at times when people gather & oogle abit on what I'm shooting. sometimes I feel like just saying "for pete's sake go away & leave me in peace!!!" :lol: lolz well i like to be in peace and pretty much left alone when shooting. this is my relaxation and my outlet.

BTW, no offence with my quote Pete :) better than using the F word I thought.

Yup. That is why my next lens will be the 135mmF2L. Its a good length for across the road shots (urban). But of course. When I get better. Im not going to spend money on equipment if my photography has not improved. And when I have not fully understood and gained knowledge from my current lenses. No point buying new glass if I have not improved with my current glass...

Thats my way of going about things.

[DiscoLizard]

Couldn't disagree more. Wishy-washy cr@p that falls right inside my definition of sickly sweet postcard fodder. There's no soul or balls to it, it's just designed to look pretty and remove cash from your wallet.

Which is the point I guess. Sickly sweet cr@p sells. But if one of those ended up on my wall I'd take the wall out in protest. (See also Ansel Adams and Colin Prior). <shudder>

And that's why I'll never try and make money from landscapes, I doubt anyone would buy what I shot.


I thought they looked great.

It sells for a reason - it looks good. I'm not sure where that becomes a problem... Obviously, not everyone could do it, or it wouldn't sell.

Photos don't need to stir up controversy or debate, IMO. They just need to make you pause for longer than a glance. If they make you think, then all well and good.

<limp wrist>
If you compare it to fashion;

Some designers come up with all sorts of weird crap to send down a catwalk, most of it rubbish, and get paid a lot of money by people close to the industry ('fine' art photography)

Other designers come up with clothes that are a little bit different, but still look good enough to sell in high-end stores (art photography)

The rest design for K-Mart (me)
</limp wrist>

Just because something is different and 'edgey' doesn't make it good - quite often it's just a bunch of posers stroking each other's egos...


Anyway, think I'm a bit late to the debate.

Hope you're enjoying my hometown, hoping to visit this year :D

[DiscoLizard]

Damn Clive - you just had to steal my thunder... :D

[S-S]

...<limp wrist>
If you compare it to fashion...</limp wrist>

Just because something is different and 'edgey' doesn't make it good - quite often it's just a bunch of posers stroking each other's egos...

LMAO @ limp wrist bit... do you have a special voice to go with that?

i agree with the last statement.

when i'm collecting pics for my 'inspiration' folder - i only choose pics that made me look twice, or stopped me looking away - because thats the stuff i personally want to learn from

if i'm not attracted to a shot, then i just move on - because if i didnt get anything from it when i looked at it, chances are i wont be able to learn how to do it myself either, its just not on my wavelength

[DiscoLizard]

Yup. That is why my next lens will be the 135mmF2L. Its a good length for across the road shots (urban). But of course. When I get better. Im not going to spend money on equipment if my photography has not improved. And I when I have not fully understood and gained knowledge from my current lenses. No point buying new glass if I have not improved with my current glass...

Thats my way of going about things.

Matt - been looking through your websites again. I still really like a lot of your photos, it's just the explanations that I often wish I didn't read.

FWIW, I think from your style, that the prime approach is a good idea - 30mm, and 85mm/135mm maybe. Travel light, lots of urban stuff.

[weka2000]

dave doesnt respect ansel adams? :shock:

I dont think his work is that great either.
However his journey and thoughts I find very valuable

[Wazza]

Welcome back. Are you back for good or just a visit? I know how you feel. I got stuck in Sydney a week ago due to thunderstorms and sat on the plane for 3 hours. Then they decided to send us to Auckland and not Wellington.:evil: Then we were put up in a hotel and sent home the next morning.

Yeah I'd hate to be put up for a night when you're expected somewhere else.
Even worse when you're back in a place only for a few days and being held up.
One poor girl was told she has to wait from 8am Tuesday till 6pm Wednesday, as that was the next available flight. I managed to get the 12pm flight, only as I requested a seat 26A, and had my bags ID tagged to be sent to Auckland on QF43, otherwise like every other kiwi on the British Airways flight who were late, they put them on the 6pm flight, arriving Auckland at 11pm!

Shot down in flames lol :lol:. All good, I like strong opinions, each to his own. I love beauty, I dont care if its postcard stuff or not. It works for me.

I personally wouldnt pay that much because I couldnt afford it and would mount my own work, however if I was wealthy and not a photographer in my own right, I most certainly would.

In saying that I like Tom's work, I also like other styles.

Ok, Im off to do some work now, have a good day all.

Oh and WELCOME BACK WAZZA :)

Thanks Wendy

Had a glance at the work - it's not bad - I didn't find it bad, probably would have worked on keeping the exposure even throughout the panoramics as I see most have dark areas, such as the sea in the coastal shot.


Ah well - looks like we cant make it.. well me anyway.... I have one crazy week of work.. two urgent portrait shoots last night I had to do, and now 6 sets of portraits to edit and finish before Sunday.. in between taking more photos on Saturday and meetings this week.. GAH!!!!!



Haha! At least it's work = exposure and some pocket money
Guess we can meet up early next week with a few others?

--
And mmm I just was woken up, must have been very deep asleep.
Had my sister yelling through my window - wake up Warren!
Thinking she was late for work, and somehow got stuck outside, - got up to realise it's 12pm and her day off :lol:


So anyone want to see Piha tonight?
I'll likely go there for a couple hours tonight. Say 7-8:45pm

[::John::]

I dont think his work is that great either.
However his journey and thoughts I find very valuable

Cool - everyone has their opinions - and that I do respect.

With Ansel, though, I think of the time when he took his pictures - when it was one hell of a trek with equipment we would, today, consider sub-standard.

I admire his tenacity, too - he sat for 3 days waiting for the 'right light' for one picture.

And he post-processed the hell out of his shots - he was a darkroom tinkerer - if he were alive today, he would be using a LOT of Photoshop or Lightroom, I think.

But, again, he was a man of his time.

(my opinion only)

[scotttnz]

Yup. That is why my next lens will be the 135mmF2L. Its a good length for across the road shots (urban).

Ummmmm.......your 70-200 would have been good for that too.....:p

[tag141]

Trouble is Dave I want his $2000 he asking in my wallet.

That's what he's asking...how many sell at that price? I often see average photos at very high prices and think How many actually sell.?


We went into a gallery of Peter Lik when we were in Cairns and his work was absolutely amazing... www.peterlik.com (http://www.peterlik.com)

Everytime I go to Karunda or Port Douglas I ALWAYS go into his gallery. Not simply for the air-con either.

[weka2000]

Cool - everyone has their opinions - and that I do respect.

With Ansel, though, I think of the time when he took his pictures - when it was one hell of a trek with equipment we would, today, consider sub-standard.

I admire his tenacity, too - he sat for 3 days waiting for the 'right light' for one picture.

And he post-processed the hell out of his shots - he was a darkroom tinkerer - if he were alive today, he would be using a LOT of Photoshop or Lightroom, I think.

But, again, he was a man of his time.

(my opinion only)

Often the story behind the photo is more powerful than the photo. Or it puts the photo into a new light when you know the story.

[Nzshrimper]

Does anyone know how Matt (the original Matt) is getting on after his bike crash... ?

[::John::]

Often the story behind the photo is more powerful than the photo. Or it puts the photo into a new light when you know the story.

True

I also consider the age of the picture - and think of the rudimentary gear they had back then.

[manipula]

But it's photography nevertheless. Sex with a prostitute is still sex.

Any time you take a picture it's photography. My slating of the bloke's work is purely my own opinion, I know others won't agree. I'd personally feel polluted putting any of his stuff on my wall. Feel like I'd have to bounce round the room like a kid smacked to the tits on E-numbers just to fit in with the jolly-jolly sickly sweet outlook on the world. <shudder>

dave doesnt respect ansel adams? :shock:

Respect maybe, like his work, not in the slightest. You got to give the man credit for what he did, determination etc, as it's just cool basically. But I think his work is some of the most overated 'art' anywhere. I always try to keep a lid on this particular preference of mine as talking about it front of a bunch of other photographers is recipe for an argument but whatever, I haven't seen a single photo of his that I like. I can't stand the world seen as idealistically beautiful, it's why I hat skin smoothing in model shots, prefer to see cars looking filthy and driven, prefer to see Rannoch Moor in the Highlands burnt out rather than straight off a postcard etc...

not in the morning :lol:

What can I say, he abused me as a child... ;)

Just because something is different and 'edgey' doesn't make it good - quite often it's just a bunch of posers stroking each other's egos...

Correct. Edgy for the sake of being edgy is about as attention grabbing as an emo kid dragging their heels down the main street wearing a t-shirt that says 'hate me' on the front. Shooting photos to seek the aproval of others is the wrong motive, shooting them because it's how you want to shoot it bringing along your own personal ethos is. Or dare I say it, painful as it is, if it's paying the bills, shooting what pays... :(

Often the story behind the photo is more powerful than the photo. Or it puts the photo into a new light when you know the story.


Now then you're getting into the argument as to whether art should be annotated or just left for the viewer to make their own mind up. Never really been sure about that one... ;)

[Wazza]

Does anyone know how Matt (the original Matt) is getting on after his bike crash... ?

He's fine.
Very busy with work, I'll try and see him in the next week, or maybe get him out for a shoot next week?

He's since just got a new replacement bike through the insurance. So that hasn't deterred him :p

[weka2000]

True

I also consider the age of the picture - and think of the rudimentary gear they had back then.
That and his ability to see in his minds eye the final print. His moon rise photo was taken but took many years before it was printed. He called it a "mistake"

Dave you want me to get into another argument ....hell I need some berocia. My day is a continuation from yesterday. Now who have I told to F... Off in the last 24 hrs ...... Wife at midnight, boss first thing this morning, reported a teacher for racismt at 11am today. Im not a happy lad.
If I dont come back supect a heart attack.

[::John::]

That and his ability to see in his minds eye the final print. His moon rise photo was taken but took many years before it was printed. He called it a "mistake"

Crikey - I have a boatload of 'mistakes' that I wish would get the same notoriety :)


Another thing to consider (and this may create some annoyance) is that Ansel came from a country that promotes it's 'legends' until they become legends.

[manipula]

Another thing to consider (and this may create some annoyance) is that Ansel came from a country that promotes it's 'legends' until they become legends.

Don't get me started there! :evil:

[weka2000]

Don't get me started there! :evil:

Hey we still need to meet in Taupo with a bottle of Baileys :lol:

[manipula]

Make it three... :p

[weka2000]

Make it three... :p
Hey as long as we dont disagree on a topic we should be ok :lol:

[Don28]

Blue Chip in liquidation....

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/3/story.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10492225

[S-S]

Hey as long as we dont disagree on a topic we should be ok :lol:

if you do - someone should be designated to take photos :lol:

[tag141]

Blue Chip in liquidation....

Hope I get my investment out before any more companies go tits up. MFS is looking a bit shakey as well.

[Kawaka]

I am very interested in seeing how you all gauge your work, as far as I can tell the only real way of seeing where your work sits in relation to some of the best photographers in NZ is to enter competitions.
A lot of these are open to all comers ie (easter show) and have great prize money ($1000 for a 1st place). The bigger shows are judged by a panel of up to 5 qualified people.
Being a member of a Photographic Club or the PSNZ will allow your work to enter more shows.
I don't think an on line forum is going to achieve to this level.

Bryan
PS if you want to see where u are in relation to world class photographers there are competition for that also.

[Don28]

Hope I get my investment out before any more companies go tits up. MFS is looking a bit shakey as well.

we just about invested in them (bluechip). we were approached about two years ago. pretty much refered to them by a friend who was about 7 properties through them last time I heard. Good thing we held off & though about it first.

I wonder how he's doing or if he managed to get out before the fall?

[manipula]

I am very interested in seeing how you all gauge your work, as far as I can tell the only real way of seeing where your work sits in relation to some of the best photographers in NZ is to enter competitions.
A lot of these are open to all comers ie (easter show) and have great prize money ($1000 for a 1st place). The bigger shows are judged by a panel of up to 5 qualified people.
Being a member of a Photographic Club or the PSNZ will allow your work to enter more shows.
I don't think an on line forum is going to achieve to this level.

Bryan
PS if you want to see where u are in relation to world class photographers there are competition for that also.

I think most of us are of the opinion that competitions are fatally flawed. Using them to line yourself up against others is one thing but the judgements are never definitive, rather they're completely subjective. I've yet to see a competition that has ever been even close to agreed that it was definitive and everyone agreed on the outcome.

If your work is pure genius but the dude on the hudging panel doesn't like it you're screwed. :?

[weka2000]

I am very interested in seeing how you all gauge your work, as far as I can tell the only real way of seeing where your work sits in relation to some of the best photographers in NZ is to enter competitions.
A lot of these are open to all comers ie (easter show) and have great prize money ($1000 for a 1st place). The bigger shows are judged by a panel of up to 5 qualified people.
Being a member of a Photographic Club or the PSNZ will allow your work to enter more shows.
I don't think an on line forum is going to achieve to this level.

Bryan
PS if you want to see where u are in relation to world class photographers there are competition for that also.

Yes how does 1 gauge 1s work.

Dave you optimist :)

[tag141]

If your work is pure genius but the dude on the hudging panel doesn't like it you're screwed. :?

Isn't that why there's a panel of judges with an odd number of judges.? They can all have different opinions on a photo but they all have to agree on the merits of the photo.

[manipula]

Dave you optimist :)

<sigh> :(

[Nzshrimper]

He's fine.
Very busy with work, I'll try and see him in the next week, or maybe get him out for a shoot next week?

He's since just got a new replacement bike through the insurance. So that hasn't deterred him :p

thats good news - send him my thoughts..

[manipula]

Isn't that why there's a panel of judges with an odd number of judges.? They can all have different opinions on a photo but they all have to agree on the merits of the photo.


Never seen that work either...

[S-S]

I am very interested in seeing how you all gauge your work, as far as I can tell the only real way of seeing where your work sits in relation to some of the best photographers in NZ is to enter competitions...

i dont really like comparing my work with others' - it either makes you smug if you think its better, or it makes you depressed if you think its worse LOL

the closest i will come to that is to compare my STYLE to another photographer - and then try to learn from them

i shoot to please myself - my own tastes change as i become capable of better/different things - yet i can still look back on some old work and go wow* to myself, and feel lucky that i caught it. and when i shoot for someone else, i am STILL shooting to please myself - how can i hand over anything to a client that i dont believe in myself?

*and i can look back and go yuk too - don't get me wrong LOL

If your work is pure genius but the dude on the hudging panel doesn't like it you're screwed. :?

hudging - now theres a sport that needs to be revived... :lol:;)

[::John::]

hudging - now theres a sport that needs to be revived... :lol:;)

think 'Morris Dancing'

:lol:

[S-S]

think 'Morris Dancing'

:lol:

:lol: ok sure - thats always good for a laugh

[tag141]

Never seen that work either...

So how can you have a competition that's fair. You're saying you can't. Get three monkeys, two babies and corpse as judges? Have you ever done jury duty?:(

[manipula]

:lol:

Every photo competition I've seen there's been flaws with. C4 ran a national millenium one, and they've just run that 'Picture This' competition in the UK, both of which were widely panned for having a jury so intent on 'Turner Prize-esque' high art mentality that their choices were seen by a high percentage of those interetd or entered as skewed.

And every camera club I've ever seen has had some head honcho who everyone either fears like he's a thirs world dictator or brown nose so much, that any judging panel has had a distinct tint in his or her favour...

I've seen the World Press Phot exhibition a few times now which is essentially just a competition but noone goes there to see if they measure up, they go to see people good at their craft show the world's stories in pictures.

I think competitions have their place but I really don't think you can use them as a defining rule...

[Don28]

sorry to keep jumping in with random stuff....

http://gizmodo.com/353073/canon-120056l-usm-the-bfg-of-telephoto-lenses

WTF???

sorry another one http://gizmodo.com/353422/i-see-london-i-see-france-i-see-your-underpants-from-32-miles-away-with-canon-5200mm-ultra-telephoto-lens

WTF???

[tag141]

sorry to keep jumping in with random stuff....

http://gizmodo.com/353073/canon-120056l-usm-the-bfg-of-telephoto-lenses

WTF???

You obviously missed the one on TM recently. Wouldn't a 600 and 2xTC do just as well?

[weka2000]

I guess the ulitamte test is sales of your work. Dont worry Dave you will make millions out of your photography....down side is you will be dead and famous. Your kids will thank you :lol:

Dave ........ A photographer ahead of his time

[manipula]

sorry to keep jumping in with random stuff....

http://gizmodo.com/353073/canon-120056l-usm-the-bfg-of-telephoto-lenses

WTF???

sorry another one http://gizmodo.com/353422/i-see-london-i-see-france-i-see-your-underpants-from-32-miles-away-with-canon-5200mm-ultra-telephoto-lens

WTF???

I've used the 1200mm one twice. Or played with it rather. Once at a trade show and once at Donnington race circuit where some dude was filming on an XL2 Canon camcorder at a trackday I was at with one os these strapped to the front with the EF adapter. It's huge, and predictably, a little slow on focusing. :p

[lance v]

sorry another one http://gizmodo.com/353422/i-see-london-i-see-france-i-see-your-underpants-from-32-miles-away-with-canon-5200mm-ultra-telephoto-lens

WTF???

Haha mean! i want
*jesus the tiny little thing on the ends a camera!*

[weka2000]

Haha mean! i want
What macros of girls at a beach :rolleyes:

[Don28]

I would love to see these lenses... what a behemoth!!!(the second link) I thought the 1200mm was huge :P

[manipula]

From memory I'd have said the 1200mm was about 6ft long and had a front element something like 45cm across... The tripod foot is so big the Canon stand at the trade show had it mounted on one of those twin-arm video tripod heads such as you'd use for small studio video cameras.

[S-S]

wow i cant believe it, im actually getting through all this work ive got piled up here
i must be missing something, some huge job ive completely forgotten :confused:

[tag141]

front element something like 45cm across...

Cokin P or Z series?

[Wazza]

Double D

[lance v]

What macros of girls at a beach :rolleyes:

Haha nah the 100-400 does that nicely.... i want pictures of girls at the beach when im not at the beach lol

[S-S]

wow, lucky us - a real-life stalker... :confused:

[lance v]

wow, lucky us - a real-life stalker... :confused:
Muhahaha

[weka2000]

Haha nah the 100-400 does that nicely.... i want pictures of girls at the beach when im not at the beach lol


bigma is better :lol:

[weka2000]

Arney (the terminator) has given Ansel Adams an award yrs after his death

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansel_Adams
See awards section

[Wazza]

So no one else keen to come to Piha?

[S-S]

can't go anywhere for a while... anyhow school meeting tonight

[wendyc]

So no one else keen to come to Piha?

I would love to Wazza but cant, its been a long day at work and Piha is
miles away from Torbay :)

[Wazza]

That's ok

Only thing is the weather tomorrow not looking as promising.

Anyway, if any of you can keep Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday nights free, I'll be able to come out on any of those. city shoot or west coast beaches.

May head down to city in morning, if weather ok

[iKirst]

Hey folks,
Reporting live from my hotel room in the Ghetto.
I heard there was a bit of rain down there this morning. Weather is supurb up here at the mo. My poor little Escape has been put to the test again. Full to the brim with 200 bricks, plus screeds of brochures, brick slips and CDs for customers.

Potisdad is staying at the same hotel as me.. *looks* not sure which is his car (The sod managed to check in earlier than me, and got the last room last night - so I had to stay at smelly Kingsgate). :p

Anyway, I wish I had room for my camera this trip. Cable Bay, Taipa Bay and Coopers Beach were stunningly clear and calm when I went through. Very picturesque. It's settled my toss up whether to take a road trip North and shoot away.

PS - found y'all ;)

[Wazza]

I would love to Wazza but cant, its been a long day at work and Piha is
miles away from Torbay :)

You must have edited that :p
Torbay? Mmm nice sunrise over Rangitoto

[wendyc]

Yup, edited, and thats just what I was about to post, the sunrises have been spectacular the past week :D

[wendyc]

Hey folks,
Reporting live from my hotel room in the Ghetto.
I heard there was a bit of rain down there this morning. Weather is supurb up here at the mo. My poor little Escape has been put to the test again. Full to the brim with 200 bricks, plus screeds of brochures, brick slips and CDs for customers.

Potisdad is staying at the same hotel as me.. *looks* not sure which is his car (The sod managed to check in earlier than me, and got the last room last night - so I had to stay at smelly Kingsgate). :p

Anyway, I wish I had room for my camera this trip. Cable Bay, Taipa Bay and Coopers Beach were stunningly clear and calm when I went through. Very picturesque. It's settled my toss up whether to take a road trip North and shoot away.

PS - found y'all ;) Glad you found us Kirst, youre in one of my fave parts of the world, pity about the ghetto tho :( How long are you up there for?
Safe travels and hi to potisdad :D

[weka2000]

This has to be the best thread ive read in ages
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=4896728&postcount=1

[iKirst]

Glad you found us Kirst, youre in one of my fave parts of the world, pity about the ghetto tho :( How long are you up there for?
Safe travels and hi to potisdad :D
Thanks Wendy :)

Heh - I don't actually know what Potisdad's car looks like, so I guess I can randomly go up to each of the other 12 rooms and say g'day to all of them.
This Lodge is generally a 'rep haven'. It's always the first place any smart travelling rep tries to book (if their companies decide they want to fork out the price).

http://www.lodgebordeaux.co.nz/

It's my own little slice of Tuscany ;)

I'll be sure and take my camera next time, Wendy. This was a no go because it was the first visit North this year, and with a new set of products. Ordinarily, that wouldn't surmount to much, but when the main product is bricks, it very easily rids any spare space you may have in your vehicle.

D'oh!

[iKirst]

This has to be the best thread ive read in ages
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=4896728&postcount=1
:shock:!

[S-S]

thats pretty funny - and sad LOL

[wendyc]

Thanks Wendy :)

Heh - I don't actually know what Potisdad looks like, so I guess I can randomly go up to each of the other 12 rooms and say g'day to all of them.
This Lodge is generally a 'rep haven'. It's always the first place any smart travelling rep tries to book (if their companies decide they want to fork out the price).

http://www.lodgebordeaux.co.nz/

It's my own little slice of Tuscany ;)

I'll be sure and take my camera next time, Wendy. This was a no go because it was the first visit North this year, and with a new set of products. Ordinarily, that wouldn't surmount to much, but when the main product is bricks, it very easily rids any spare space you may have in your vehicle.

D'oh!
:p Well the door knocking thing could indeed be interesting. Love that place that you posted! I cant keep up with you, one moment its websites, the next its bricks, you are very versatile and talented methinks ;)

Oh well, Ive walked the dog, got to do dinner and then some work. I have been lucky enough to get involved with a mate who designs websites for a big company and he is referring the clients to moi for images. I think this may end up quite lucrative :D. Got my first order today with more on the way.

G'nite all and hopefully we will catch up while you are back home Wazza.

[iKirst]

:p Well the door knocking thing could indeed be interesting. Love that place that you posted! I cant keep up with you, one moment its websites, the next its bricks, you are very versatile and talented methinks ;)
:oops: :lol: Only versatile and talented on some days. Oh, and Versatile is one of my customers, hah
You forgot underfloor heating, too ;)

And theres a few other pies I have my fingers in. This year is proving to be grand.


Have a good night, Wendy. Thank you for the compliment :D

[Don28]

So no one else keen to come to Piha?

sorry wazza, lost is on @ 8:30. 1st epsode of season 4 :p

[naqs]

sorry wazza, lost is on @ 8:30. 1st epsode of season 4 :p

you are obviously a bit behind time... download it! :lol:

sorry I won't be there I have lots to get done before tomorrow :( but if anythings happening during the weekend then let me know

[joeseph]

I guess the ulitamte test is sales of your work.
not sure I entirely agree with that - sales of work are usually a good test of how well the marketing is functioning, not necessarily how good the product is.

So no one else keen to come to Piha?
thought about it briefly, feel a bit under the weather past few days (flue-like symptoms) so sorry not tonite.

This has to be the best thread ive read in ages
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=4896728&postcount=1
be careful what you laugh at. I'm a firm believer in "what goes around, comes around" stuff breaking & falling in the tide could happen to any of us...

[manipula]

Do you need to buy a TV license in order to watch TV in NZ? Or does the advertising pay for it all?

[Don28]

you are obviously a bit behind time... download it! :lol:


I use to have a mate who downloads it for me. sadly he moved away a bit far :rolleyes:

I tried downloading them my self, I seem to always get a really slow connection and takes yonks to download. Its not that far behind to US. Only a couple of episodes have aired so far ;) I have also read the recaps - this seasons sounding really good so far!

[Don28]

Do you need to buy a TV license in order to watch TV in NZ? Or does the advertising pay for it all?

nope, we use to years ago.... they use to send us a bill in the post in which hardly anyone I knew paid :p

[naqs]

I use to have a mate who downloads it for me. sadly he moved away a bit far :rolleyes:

I tried downloading them my self, I seem to always get a really slow connection and takes yonks to download. Its not that far behind to US. Only a couple of episodes have aired so far ;) I have also read the recaps - this seasons sounding really good so far!

Well I never downloaded anything from this series... I got bored of it after the second season. :rolleyes:

[Don28]

Well I never downloaded anything from this series... I got bored of it after the second season. :rolleyes:

don't blame you mate, it did kinda lost its plot abit.

am only following it 'cause ive already seen and invested so much time to watch all the other episodes. be a shame to stop now, i just want to know what happens & how it ends now :rolleyes:

this season looks promising though :D its moving in a faster phase - proly due to writters strike?

[Don28]

anyone know how to find the vibrance slider in PS CS2?

[joeseph]

Do you need to buy a TV license in order to watch TV in NZ? Or does the advertising pay for it all?
yes - I'll send you an invoice. ;)

[manipula]

nope, we use to years ago.... they use to send us a bill in the post in which hardly anyone I knew paid :p

Sweet. Loaned TV now working, Shrek 3 on the go and Bob a happy lady... ;)

yes - I'll send you an invoice. ;)

To quote Simon Pegg: :p<raspberry>:p Jog on! ;)

[dgcorner]

Wow... I must get a life outside of work... A new home... and 8 friggin pages later... bloody he!!

What have I missed?

Welcome to the noobs!

[joeseph]

What have I missed?

not a lot. How's the back? mended?

[dgcorner]

not a lot. How's the back? mended?

Hiya Duncan!

Yep, back is mended... I wish I could say the same for my heel... they found a spur in it:( No wonder it still aches... Neck is 95%...

How's Fiona & the little guy? Trust all's well.

[joeseph]

anyone know how to find the vibrance slider in PS CS2?
upgrading to Lightroom should do it. Apparently there isn't a "vibrance" slider in CS-2...

Hiya Duncan!

Yep, back is mended... I wish I could say the same for my heel... they found a spur in it:( No wonder it still aches... Neck is 95%...

How's Fiona & the little guy? Trust all's well.
little guy doing well. Fiona & I have some lurgy though - cough,cough etc etc. Applying copious qty of alcahol and seems better...

[akiwi]

.....kinda pisses me off at times when people gather & oogle abit on what I'm shooting. sometimes I feel like just saying "for pete's sake go away & leave me in peace!!!" :lol: lolz well i like to be in peace and pretty much left alone when shooting. this is my relaxation and my outlet.
...

You need one of <THESE> (http://www.procameragear.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/33_29_34_26/sort/2a/page/5) then

Yeah - wish my 70-200 was black, but I'd rather avoid the paint :D

You don't feel like you miss the IS at all?
See albove link. (Also at the top of this page = P.O.T.N Support Shop)

This has to be the best thread ive read in ages
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=4896728&postcount=1
OMG!!!!

Wow... I must get a life outside of work... A new home... and 8 friggin pages later... bloody he!!

What have I missed?

Welcome to the noobs!
Hi John, good to hear the back is better.

[Nzshrimper]

i think this has been answered somewhere here before..

will canon NZ service lenses purchased from B&H

[::John::]

i think this has been answered somewhere here before..

will canon NZ service lenses purchased from B&H

If they come with the International Warranty card, yes they will service them under warranty.

[Nzshrimper]

If they come with the International Warranty card, yes they will service them under warranty.

cool thats what i thought.. thanks.

[sothen]

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff212/pastey65/IMG_1635.jpg

Opoutere Beach .... bliss.

[S-S]

Do you need to buy a TV license in order to watch TV in NZ? Or does the advertising pay for it all?

not any more thanks to the Labour Govt...

there used to be a fee even for a radio (wireless) but then when private tvs became more common around the 1970s they combined them into one fee and called it the broadcasting licence fee, much later renamed into the NZ on Air fee (which was about the time that the whole population lost respect for it) - prolly cos most of the telly programmes made with those funds were sh*te and no one wanted to help fund more!

if you refused to pay it, you got a visit from a NZ on Air surveyer - who would stand at the door and ask you (within clear hearing distance of it) whether you had a TV, and ppl would stand there and baldly lie right to their face even if it was going, and say no, don't have one then shut the door. :lol:

then the bill would come - and if you didn't pay it you got listed with Baycorp... which still didnt matter because if you were refused credit because of it, and could prove it was just your NZ on Air fee, then the creditor promptly ignored it.

then Labour announced it was going to be abolished sometime in the late 1990s... and that was that.

[Mark Vuleta]

The husband and son of a woman in work have all the relevant machinery in their shed. She said they love doing little projects and would be more than happy to have a go if I gave them drawings. I also have another photography related project but more of that later. For now I must master Sketchup.

I used to have a mate of mine who had a sheet metal/light engineering shop in Onehunga, retired and sold out early last year. Had everything/anything you could want and was happy to let you use it.

Unfortunately, six weeks after retireing, was diagnosed with cancer & 4 weeks after that, he passed away.

Moral: dont retire:rolleyes:

Anyway, seeing I'm home alone house husband this weekend, I might do some sketches & send them to you.

How is the new job by the way?

[S-S]

Opoutere Beach .... bliss.

something about that photo looks incredibly... english

maybe its the weather and the sandals and the seat on the sand... but its also the style and angle - like a 1970s family photo of a 'day at the seaside'

i like it

[Mark Vuleta]

not any more thanks to the Labour Govt...

I thought that particular party passed some legislation recently to prevent party political broadcasts like that:rolleyes::lol:

[Mark Vuleta]

something about that photo looks incredibly... english

maybe its the weather

No, its not raining.

[S-S]

I thought that particular party passed some legislation recently to prevent party political broadcasts like that:rolleyes::lol:

HAHAHAHAHA could be so - but since this isnt a politics forum and i never watch the news... we shall never know :rolleyes:

[Don28]

What have I missed?


WB John, not much. Good to hear your gettin better! :D

upgrading to Lightroom should do it. Apparently there isn't a "vibrance" slider in CS-2...

Cheers 4 dat, I thought I was going crazy. Spent hours looking for it in CS2 :p

You need one of <THESE> (http://www.procameragear.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/33_29_34_26/sort/2a/page/5) then

lolz :lol: some are quite ugly/ & very costly!

[::John::]

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff212/pastey65/IMG_1635.jpg

Opoutere Beach .... bliss.

lovely shot

[Nzshrimper]

went to the dark hole of the church today - man it was darker than even i expected.
And there were no grounds to do any group shoots in either... Unless of course you want a petrol station in the background.

However i did find one very small corner to take some individual or couples shots... So i did a bit of practice with Charlie

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/nzshrimper/charlie2.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/nzshrimper/charlie-1.jpg

[manipula]

She's a wee cutey Chris! 8)

[Nzshrimper]

She's a wee cutey Chris! 8)
thanks buddy - she has only just had her tonsils out (6 days ago) so She was feeling a bit better today....

So I was lucky to get a smile out of her.. ;)

[Wazza]

G'nite all and hopefully we will catch up while you are back home Wazza.

Thanks -
Drove to Piha, film crews were there, stopping people going to the South side of the beach. :rolleyes:
And to make it a double blow, my memory cards were left on my bed. :oops:
At least the fresh air woke me up some more from my jet lag

sorry wazza, lost is on @ 8:30. 1st epsode of season 4 :p

No worries :p
PS. Watch out for the sabre tooth tiger

not sure I entirely agree with that - sales of work are usually a good test of how well the marketing is functioning, not necessarily how good the product is.


thought about it briefly, feel a bit under the weather past few days (flue-like symptoms) so sorry not tonite.


be careful what you laugh at. I'm a firm believer in "what goes around, comes around" stuff breaking & falling in the tide could happen to any of us...

No worries Duncan, keeping up with those ungodly hours thanks to cute little ones? :cool:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff212/pastey65/IMG_1635.jpg

Opoutere Beach .... bliss.

Great atmosphere. Love it


Also nice work Chris, above.

[joeseph]

No worries Duncan, keeping up with those ungodly hours thanks to cute little ones? :cool:
something like that...

[akiwi]

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff212/pastey65/IMG_1635.jpg

Opoutere Beach .... bliss.
Makes me feel homesick sitting here in Germany in the middle of winter. But the sun is shining.

Warren, leaving the memory cards is a bugga! I know it will happen to me sometime soon. I used to always download from the camera so didn't have to take the card out, but now I use the card reader & have nearly forgotten my cards a couple of times.

[Wazza]

Yeah, the weather wasn't too flash either by the time I got there.

I was about to take the card from the reader, but decided not to, in case I didn't get the recently downloaded pics off properly.

Ah well, guess I'll wait for the wedding before I get any decent shots.
My flash still isn't firing properly, shooting full power on ETTL mode - getting white images. I keep thinking it's dud batteries I'm using.

[tag141]

I used to have a mate of mine who had a sheet metal/light engineering shop in Onehunga, retired and sold out early last year. Had everything/anything you could want and was happy to let you use it.

Unfortunately, six weeks after retireing, was diagnosed with cancer & 4 weeks after that, he passed away.

Moral: dont retire:rolleyes:

Anyway, seeing I'm home alone house husband this weekend, I might do some sketches & send them to you.

How is the new job by the way?

Don't retire...I don't think people can afford to these days can they? Would be interested in your sketches. See what you come up with compared to my idea. The job...well at first I thought it sucked and I was ready to come back to NZ. When you have been in a job for 10 years and know it inside out, can do it in your sleep (which I often did, Akiwi knows the late night postings) and are head of your department, all is good. Then you decide to move and have to start all over again. That was hard. However, the money I get now being at the bottom in Aus is more than I got at the top in NZ, so all is good again. Plus I've just done my first weekends of on-call, so that's my initiation done and I've been officially welcomed into the job.

I was lucky to get a smile out of her.. ;)

Tickle the beejeezus out of her. That should make her smile.

Warren, leaving the memory cards is a bugga! I know it will happen to me sometime soon. I used to always download from the camera so didn't have to take the card out, but now I use the card reader & have nearly forgotten my cards a couple of times.

I always carry a 1GB card in the car for those such occasions.

[Wazza]

I'd also have a 2Gb in my 20D usually too - but didn't have the 20D in the bag either.

[tag141]

I'd also have a 2Gb in my 20D usually too - but didn't have the 20D in the bag either.

I see the jetlag is still going...by the time you've recovered it will be time to go back.

[Wazza]

Yeah I know what you mean :p
It's almost the evening now :o

Been converting some raws to jpgs.

Won't have much time earlier next week, as I'll be busy editing wedding pics from this weekend.

[Wazza]

Alright, 4:15am - better head to bed.

How fun is it to fly over your own town...
Henderson and my house:

www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/home.jpg

[dgcorner]

Hi John, good to hear the back is better.

Thanks Peter!

WB John, not much. Good to hear your gettin better!


Thanks Don!

went to the dark hole of the church today - man it was darker than even i expected.
And there were no grounds to do any group shoots in either... Unless of course you want a petrol station in the background.

However i did find one very small corner to take some individual or couples shots... So i did a bit of practice with Charlie


I'm sure glad she looks like her mum!:p j/k. Good to see that she is feeling better.

Alright, 4:15am - better head to bed.

How fun is it to fly over your own town...
Henderson and my house:

www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/home.jpg (http://www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/home.jpg)

Warren, welcome home... even if it is for a short while!

[Don28]

Alright, 4:15am - better head to bed.

How fun is it to fly over your own town...
Henderson and my house:

www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/home.jpg (http://www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/home.jpg)


cool! Things definately look diff on birds eye view. I live out henderson as well & I don't recognise it. lolz

[low orbit]

went to the dark hole of the church today - man it was darker than even i expected.
And there were no grounds to do any group shoots in either... Unless of course you want a petrol station in the background.

However i did find one very small corner to take some individual or couples shots... So i did a bit of practice with Charlie





Great shots Chris :) No problems with lighting there. BG is nice and pleasing too. # 2 is adoreable.

Cheers, Shane.

[S-S]

chris got a picture of the location/building?

[Nzshrimper]

chris got a picture of the location/building?
yep i have i will post a couple tonight when i get home..

[wendyc]

I hate that I cant see images at work, not that Im supposed to be on here actually, but anyway.

Wazza, how long are you here for, I cant remember? Are we planning a meet?

Im good at leaving my stuff at home, blame it on the jet lag ;)

[Sancho]

My god you guys can natter now :) 1 day without logging in and there is 20 odd pages LOL

Great shots there Chris and Sothen ... as usual top notch from both of you.

Hey I just bought a Canon 380ex lastnight off tardme, it was a split second auction as it was closing in 1 minute, it was at $164, I added $1 and won it LOL. Just wondering if that was a good price? Just wanted a smaller second flash to compliment mt 550ex and didnt want to spend too much. The price seemed ok, but I have no idea to be honest and can't find too much info on them. LOL oh well I'm sure it'll be just fine for my purposes.

Anyway, I'm sure you'll all be relieved to know I have broadband on ... I know how much you all missed me :)

[S-S]

yay technology!!! ;-)
i think you are more relieved to be able to spend more time with US :p

[Sancho]

yay technology!!! ;-)
i think you are more relieved to be able to spend more time with US :p

Pffft, me? I'm a loner... a free spirit, I need no-one... apart from when there is as a thunderstorm :)

[wendyc]

Pffft, me? I'm a loner... a free spirit, I need no-one... apart from when there is as a thunderstorm :)

Yeah right, ya big woes! The speedlight is a good price, Apix sells the 420 new for $488 plus tax and and the 430 at $440 plus gst.

[lil_miss]

went to the dark hole of the church today - man it was darker than even i expected.
And there were no grounds to do any group shoots in either... Unless of course you want a petrol station in the background.

However i did find one very small corner to take some individual or couples shots... So i did a bit of practice with Charlie

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/nzshrimper/charlie2.jpg



Not too keen on the skin softening in the first one (it may be a bit much on a bride) - but the second one is great :)


Hey I just bought a Canon 380ex lastnight off tardme, it was a split second auction as it was closing in 1 minute, it was at $164, I added $1 and won it LOL. Just wondering if that was a good price? Just wanted a smaller second flash to compliment mt 550ex and didnt want to spend too much. The price seemed ok, but I have no idea to be honest and can't find too much info on them. LOL oh well I'm sure it'll be just fine for my purposes.


I saw that on trademe :D

[Sancho]

Yeah right, ya big woes! The speedlight is a good price, Apix sells the 420 new for $488 plus tax and and the 430 at $440 plus gst.

Great, its apparently in mint condition, not used much and has manuals etc. Won't get it till next week now I am guessing.

I want to pick up 1 more decent flash and I am sorted there.

[S-S]

sweet, nice buy

[wendyc]

I really need to learn how to use my flash off camera, I only have the 420ex. No clue. :o I had a look at Strobist but havent had the time do look into it properly, I kind of need someone to demonstrate it, thats best I think.

[Sancho]

I really need to learn how to use my flash off camera, I only have the 420ex. No clue. :o I had a look at Strobist but havent had the time do look into it properly, I kind of need someone to demonstrate it, thats best I think.

I am very much at the learning stage too, but the few times I have played with it its awesome fun :)

I just play and teach myself, but thats the best way for me, very much a kinesthetic learner ..

Can do you a good price on a remote trigger too :) About the same price as the guy on trademe, but mine are the better version, the others are prone to misfireing. Let me know if you need any advice on that side of things.

[S-S]

Can do you a good price on a remote trigger too :) About the same price as the guy on trademe, but mine are the better version, the others are prone to misfireing. Let me know if you need any advice on that side of things.

price? details? :D

[joeseph]

Hey I just bought a Canon 380ex lastnight off tardme, it was a split second auction as it was closing in 1 minute, it was at $164, I added $1 and won it LOL. Just wondering if that was a good price? Just wanted a smaller second flash to compliment mt 550ex and didnt want to spend too much. The price seemed ok, but I have no idea to be honest and can't find too much info on them. LOL oh well I'm sure it'll be just fine for my purposes.
I've had one for donkey's years - It doesn't do a bad job for the price. sing out if you need/can't find a manual. Must say it hasn't been used at all since I got the 580ex.

[wendyc]

I am very much at the learning stage too, but the few times I have played with it its awesome fun :)

I just play and teach myself, but thats the best way for me, very much a kinesthetic learner ..

Can do you a good price on a remote trigger too :) About the same price as the guy on trademe, but mine are the better version, the others are prone to misfireing. Let me know if you need any advice on that side of things.

price? details? :D

Yes please, advice needed, whats a remote trigger lol, and yes, what SS said :D
That seagull SS is amazing, even using a soldering iron!!! Another very talented woman.

[S-S]

Yes please, advice needed, whats a remote trigger lol, and yes, what SS said :D
That seagull SS is amazing, even using a soldering iron!!! Another very talented woman.

LOL ive used them before but never got around to buying one

when i was little my mum used to assemble Sportronic TV games at home for a friend who had a business... who here remembers Pong? that was the main one she used to build. i would play with all the components off the boards and make shapes with her solder LOL so its a very familiar smell

[joeseph]

LOL ive used them before but never got around to buying one

when i was little my mum used to assemble Sportronic TV games at home for a friend who had a business... who here remembers Pong? that was the main one she used to build. i would play with all the components off the boards and make shapes with her solder LOL so its a very familiar smell
for some reason the numbers ay-3-8500 ring a bell.

[S-S]

just a heads-up for anyone who's dealt with/knows graham at progear - he's been in hospital fighting off pneumonia for a few days, according to paul he's still there but seems to be slowly recovering

i've had that myself and it's no picnic, i can tell you

[Wazza]

WOw, it's 3pm, time to wake up.

I hate that I cant see images at work, not that Im supposed to be on here actually, but anyway.

Wazza, how long are you here for, I cant remember? Are we planning a meet?

Im good at leaving my stuff at home, blame it on the jet lag ;)

No set meets, but I'm free every weeknight, incl tonight, but bad weather.

So maybe Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday next week I'l be at various beaches.


cool! Things definately look diff on birds eye view. I live out henderson as well & I don't recognise it. lolz

Really? Howdy neighbour.


Landmarks/navigation/sense of direction are my good points. :p

From the bottom middle of the aerial shot, is Railside Avenue. (with Bruce McLaren Road splitting off to the left at bottom)
West City in the middle of photo.

The bright terracotta roof further up is the Waitakere Gardens, on Sel Peacock Avenue.

Also got a shot from the Sturges Road estate, where other family live.
www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/x.jpg

Thanks Peter!

Warren, welcome home... even if it is for a short while!

Cheers John
Yeah it's going too quick already. Especially when I sleep most of the day :oops:

[wendyc]

Awesome shots, I love aerial views. Busy weekend moving my daughter and setting up the nursery for the new baby, but next week should be good. See how you go.

[Sancho]

Yes please, advice needed, whats a remote trigger lol, and yes, what SS said :D


Not sure on the details, it comes in a very asian box from China LOL ... I import a few bits and pieces. Its pretty much two wee devices, one sits on your camera hotshoe (the sender) and the other sits on your flash hotshoe (the receiver) and works in manual flash mode and allows you to fire your flash from wherever. I havn't tried huge distances yet but can do soem testing if needed. You can get multiple receivers so you can fire 2/3 flashes at a time, although because of the chinese new year I havn't been able to order my other recievers yet.

Hope that helped to clarify things. I should be able to people in this thread one for around $90, but if anyone non related to here wants one it would be a different price. A guy on tardme has the other type that are prone to the odd misfire for $80, I could probably do them for $65ish but wouldn't reccomend them. My one (the slightly dearer one has fired probably 200 times, maybe more and never skipped a beat.

The build quality is a little tinnie, but beats the huge prices for any of the alternatives. Its not crap, just you wouldn't want to stand on it :)

[wendyc]

Oh thats what I need to start with I recon. Great, thanks for the info. You do the testing and tell us how far away it works ;). thanks Sancho

[Wazza]

Thanks,
Went and saw some old workmates at Westpac yesterday - asked about a previous staff member who I took some pics of her premature baby from late 2006
http://www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/gallery/album/people/lily/index.html

She's keen for a photo shoot with her daughter.

Also got the wedding on Saturday to shoot in a park in Napier (hope the weather holds)

Plus my good friend Lisa wants a catch up at Bethells, and hopefully get some pics with her fiancee, (and I'll shoot their wedding in a couple of years too)

http://www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/gallery/people/lisa/lisa10.jpg
She's camera shy, hence the hand over face :p

So busy few days, but will be good.

[sothen]

camera shy - if only she realised how freaking awesome the image would be if she showed some confidence and looked out (camera) right........


cool shot (except the hand on face thing).....

[S-S]

I should be able to people in this thread one for around $90... The build quality is a little tinnie, but beats the huge prices for any of the alternatives. Its not crap, just you wouldn't want to stand on it :)

sounds like something i might definitely be interested in... then all i will need is a light stand
actually... 3 lightstands, so i can support my backdrop with something other than handy household fittings... :rolleyes:

whats the timeframe for ordering, and does this offer expire?

camera shy - if only she realised how freaking awesome the image would be if she showed some confidence and looked out (camera) right........
cool shot (except the hand on face thing).....

maybe she didnt want to be recognised online... :rolleyes:

[Don28]

nice shot there warren! good set too! :)

[naqs]

sounds like something i might definitely be interested in... then all i will need is a light stand
actually... 3 lightstands, so i can support my backdrop with something other than handy household fittings... :rolleyes:

whats the timeframe for ordering, and does this offer expire?


I'm also interested, Is it cheaper to order a whole lot of these units?

camera shy - if only she realised how freaking awesome the image would be if she showed some confidence and looked out (camera) right........


cool shot (except the hand on face thing).....

Agreed!

[Sancho]

sounds like something i might definitely be interested in... then all i will need is a light stand
actually... 3 lightstands, so i can support my backdrop with something other than handy household fittings... :rolleyes:

whats the timeframe for ordering, and does this offer expire?

Yeah I won an auction for some old camera gear yesterday and there is an old tripod in there which I am hoping is ok as I do a similar thing to you at the mo and use whatever I can find.

The above offer won't expire too quickly, and just let me know whenever as I order on a fairly regular basis and would simply add it to my current order.

Turnaround would be anywhere from 4 days to 2 weeks, depending on when I last ordered and how busy I have been :)

You would of course need to add a few $ for shipping from Chch to wherever it is in the great Nation that you reside.

[Sancho]

I'm also interested, Is it cheaper to order a whole lot of these units?



No, I'd have to order like 100 of them before they would consider knocking the price down at all, this is already a pretty good price as I am not adding any shipping as they will simply be added to one of my existing orders.

Keeps it tidier for me as far as keeping track of orders goes though, but no biggie, simply PM me and I'll add it to my order and let you know when it arrives.

[S-S]

No, I'd have to order like 100 of them before they would consider knocking the price down at all, this is already a pretty good price as I am not adding any shipping as they will simply be added to one of my existing orders.

Keeps it tidier for me as far as keeping track of orders goes though, but no biggie, simply PM me and I'll add it to my order and let you know when it arrives.

what is the biggest distance that you have used them at? approx...

[iKirst]

Hey folks, I'm back
Completely shattered. 1300km later (doesn't sound like much, but in the far north, that crap loads of traveling)

Happy Valentines to y'all :)


Looks like my ihug email is out. That means even my domain mail isn't getting through :p :lol:

[iKirst]

ps - sorry about the rain, it followed me down :p
(Mind you, I heard it rained in Auckland yesterday morning.. it's was extremely hot and cloudless all day yesterday)

[S-S]

Hey folks, I'm back
Completely shattered. 1300km later (doesn't sound like much, but in the far north, that crap loads of traveling)
Happy Valentines to y'all :)
Looks like my ihug email is out. That means even my domain mail isn't getting through :p :lol:

hi kiiiirst stiink about ur email
maybe u should get private hosting for your domain?

[iKirst]

hi kiiiirst stiink about ur email
maybe u should get private hosting for your domain?
Fanks Deuce S :D
Ah, doesn't worry me. There's a million other ways to get hold of me :lol:

The only reason I cent get domain email is because it's forward to my ihug... I should just forward it to another email.

Meanwhile - I'm going to go collapse and have a power nap. Din's tonight for a friends birthday

[iKirst]

:lol: I appear to have killed the thread!
My bad

Have a grand night, folks.
Off to GPK for a friends birthday dinner. Most inconvenient that he was born on Valentines, everywhere is booked solid.
Just me and two dudes, so I'll pretend they are my valentines dates ;)

Sleep seems far more appealing at present, though