Kiwi - GKPE - General Ramblings (4)

[Mark Vuleta]

went out and about with the camera today ...

My first nude wasn't quite what I expected LOL ..

Hmmm, two men go into an abandoned building,.... hmmm,..... one's carrying a camera,.... hmmm,.... nosey neighbour peeks though window,.... hmmm,.... sees one man in nude,.... hmmm,.... sees other man taking pick's,..... hmmm,..... nosey neighbour (a) calls police or (b) knocks on door wanting to join in:lol:

Your mate has got some balls, so to speak:rolleyes:

[Mark Vuleta]

Oh, sorry, Evening All.

Chris, you on the door tonight?

[Nzshrimper]

Oh, sorry, Evening All.

Chris, you on the door tonight?

can i see you ID please...

[Mark Vuleta]

Aren't you coming up for the Hamilton street race?

[Nzshrimper]

Aren't you coming up for the Hamilton street race?

nah - cant be arsed.....

to see the taxi racing in the street - i just order two cabs from different companies.

;)

[Flick]

nah - cant be arsed.....

to see the taxi racing in the street - i just order two cabs from different companies.

;)

:lol:

I've yet to see an Indian racing a Touring car though...

[Nzshrimper]

flick this is great.....

[Sancho]

I dig that, I like the darker side of things. Did you do any face shots, you know, some moody anger type thingies?

Cliff

Haha, no but we have another shoot planned, very dark theme, need to wait a few weeks for props though :)

This one today was a spare of the moment thing, we were up the hills, saw the building and I put the shot to him, I took like 4 shots and then he got al paranoid as it was a pretty public place LOL

I was pretty rapt with how it came out for a rushed unplanned idea.


If you PM CDS he can let you in early.
I think that shot more than qualifies.


Sorry, you have me totally lost, qualifies for what? Please expalin, sounds interesting ...

That is pretty damn cool.
I love the location, and the lighting is cool.

Need to do a bit more with the pose or add to the mood.

Chain him to the wall.
Sit him in the corner or something.
I also find it difficult to come up with ideas in situations like that.
Basically a lot of it comed from the model.



Haha, yeah as I mentioned it was a spare of the moment thing, the next shoot we have planned should be interesting though :)

Hmmm, two men go into an abandoned building,.... hmmm,..... one's carrying a camera,.... hmmm,.... nosey neighbour peeks though window,.... hmmm,.... sees one man in nude,.... hmmm,.... sees other man taking pick's,..... hmmm,..... nosey neighbour (a) calls police or (b) knocks on door wanting to join in:lol:

Your mate has got some balls, so to speak:rolleyes:

LOL - yeah, I must admit I was cracking up laughing at the thought of someone wandering in :)

He's a good bloke, definitely not shy, he got naked for our 24hour film last year too :)

[Nzshrimper]

:lol:

I've yet to see an Indian racing a Touring car though...

i've yet to see the same indian driving the same car twice... although they all have the same id badge..

hmm....

[Nzshrimper]

Hey Mark if i arrange a girl to model for us would you be keen.... bring your lights etc....

[Sancho]

If you're talking to this Mark, then Yes :)

Do you have a venue/theme in mind?

[Nzshrimper]

If you're talking to this Mark, then Yes :)

Do you have a venue/theme in mind?

nope but i have a list of girls that are happy to do tfp work....

venue something like the one you used to day - or the sales yards in town etc.

theme - again what ever grabs us..... maybe we should have a planning session...

[Sancho]

Smells like a plan ... yeah some brainstorming beforehand is pretty much a must I reckon, organise whatever props etc are needed, that kind of carry on

[klippe]

If it was a rifle, do it on a 30m range I will be interested :cool:

Rifle. And will check distance. Either 25 or 30 metres.

Cliff

[tongmaster]

Phew, I am back from a GREAT week in Omarama, Twizel and Lake Ruataniwha with secondary schools rowing. The weather was generally fantastic, a couple of light frosts, loads of sun and few clouds to create a bit of mood.

Took 860 photographs, you can see the best 160 at Flickr. I think this one though is the one I like the best:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3217/2398545094_863261dc60_o.jpg

And no, I am not going to go back and read the last week's "news".

My parcel arrived thanks Mark. Can't wait to try it out.

[akiwi]

Haha, no but we have another shoot planned, very dark theme, need to wait a few weeks for props though :)

This one today was a spare of the moment thing, we were up the hills, saw the building and I put the shot to him, I took like 4 shots and then he got al paranoid as it was a pretty public place LOL

I was pretty rapt with how it came out for a rushed unplanned idea.



Sorry, you have me totally lost, qualifies for what? Please expalin, sounds interesting ...



Haha, yeah as I mentioned it was a spare of the moment thing, the next shoot we have planned should be interesting though :)



LOL - yeah, I must admit I was cracking up laughing at the thought of someone wandering in :)

He's a good bloke, definitely not shy, he got naked for our 24hour film last year too :)
Same sort of thing happened to George Michael didn't it :p

Smells like a plan ... yeah some brainstorming beforehand is pretty much a must I reckon, organise whatever props etc are needed, that kind of carry on
Would love to join you guys.

Friday I am giving a few people a lesson in studio lighting.
One is bringing his 17 yr old daughter as a model I haven't seen her yet. I'll need to work out a theme too. Maybe on Tuesday I'll check out the DPChalenge themes and try to make something fit. I haven't entered a challenge there in ages.

[akiwi]

Phew, I am back from a GREAT week in Omarama, Twizel and Lake Ruataniwha with secondary schools rowing. The weather was generally fantastic, a couple of light frosts, loads of sun and few clouds to create a bit of mood.

Took 860 photographs, you can see the best 160 at Flickr. I think this one though is the one I like the best:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3217/2398545094_863261dc60_o.jpg

And no, I am not going to go back and read the last week's "news".

My parcel arrived thanks Mark. Can't wait to try it out.
Very nice Bruce. I like the lighting on those hills in the BG

[tag141]

Actually, on that note. I shot at Central Shooters club in the city last Thursday. This time without a gun rest (so just holding, but crouched down). My grouping was great. I put 15 rounds into the space of about a circle the size of 4cm diameter. Oh and this was at 5 metres longer range too.

So maybe it is I who will shoot you! :D

There were some dudes in there with 9mm hand guns - jesus those things frightened the crap out of me. Some serious power - even though all the gun heads were saying "yeah they're ONLY 9mm"

Watch your back from Manipula. He hates the saying 'pulled the trigger' but this time you actually did, pull the trigger.

pff this place is ridiculous.

What a joke.

Best of luck for the future all.

Here we go again. He's a copy cat isn't he? Weka throws one, so he has to. So many things spring to mind where he's copied the actions of others.

However, on a side note THIS (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=149313256&key=1228304) made me laugh. Especially the questions.

[Flick]

However, on a side note THIS (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=149313256&key=1228304) made me laugh. Especially the questions.


"I'll offer you 4/5th's of the price of an item valued at $2,500... that's close is it not?"

My god... Tide must of been out on the Gene Pool that day.

[tag141]

My god... Tide must of been out on the Gene Pool that day.

Indeed. I like the fact he had to explain what a close offer was as if the seller was thick as he was.

[Nzshrimper]

Indeed. I like the fact he had to explain what a close offer was as if the seller was thick as he was.

as said earlier - that boy is a twat....

[Belmondo]

Is there a full moon in the southern hemisphere right now?

You folks seem to be uncharacteristically contentious these days.

Please....take your happy pills. We're all friends here.




Anyway, moderators are your friends.

[Belmondo]

as said earlier - that boy is a twat....

And I don't know what 'twat' means in your part of the world, but I do know what part of the female anatomy it refers to here.

Please refrain from using that kind of language.


Thanks.

[manipula]

Phew, I am back from a GREAT week in Omarama, Twizel and Lake Ruataniwha with secondary schools rowing. The weather was generally fantastic, a couple of light frosts, loads of sun and few clouds to create a bit of mood.

Took 860 photographs, you can see the best 160 at Flickr. I think this one though is the one I like the best:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3217/2398545094_863261dc60_o.jpg


Nice shot Bruce, I'll have a nosey at your Flickr tomorrow. :)

And no, I am not going to go back and read the last week's "news".

No god, please, just don't!

And I don't know what 'twat' means in your part of the world, but I do know what part of the female anatomy it refers to here.

Please refrain from using that kind of language.


Thanks.


LOL. Busted. :lol:

Well I'm back, before dawn too, three shots I wanted I didn't get, but the weather's not right for them anyway. I got rained off at 4am and the belly was saying 'feed me!'

Got some cool stuff I think!

[manipula]

Wahoo! Got a couple of cool ones by the looks of it! Need sleep but I'll get onto processing soon. :D

[akiwi]

Well I'm back, before dawn too, three shots I wanted I didn't get, but the weather's not right for them anyway. I got rained off at 4am and the belly was saying 'feed me!'

Got some cool stuff I think!
Glad you had a good night out & arrived home in 1 piece with all your gear.

Wahoo! Got a couple of cool ones by the looks of it! Need sleep but I'll get onto processing soon. :D
Glad to hear it.
I'm looking forward to seeing the results.

[Wazza]

Or like one ;)

My first GKPE meet photos have been deleted off my site.. not by me, by another that used to have my login :evil: :(
So, this is the first archived photos that is actually still there..

http://www.ikirst.com/gallery/albums/diamond/falcon.jpg

Hey, there was only one pic there.

http://www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/nihotupu.jpg

Guess I found it after 2 years. :oops: (Having a scan through some archived backups on my external drive.. found heaps of 2006 desktop files I had saved such as that)
As I said back then, sorry. I didn't think you'd lose some photos off your HDD

[Sancho]

Wahoo! Got a couple of cool ones by the looks of it! Need sleep but I'll get onto processing soon. :D

Ohhh, can't wait, you know you havn't really posted anything since I joined late december so its GREAT to see/hear you getting some passion back again :)

Oh, any critique on the shot I posted earlier, was interested to hear your thoughts.

*sigh* off to work for me now - think I'll push this 3 x 10 hour days thing, squeeky wheel and all that :)

[kaypony]

Phew, I am back from a GREAT week in Omarama, Twizel and Lake Ruataniwha with secondary schools rowing. The weather was generally fantastic, a couple of light frosts, loads of sun and few clouds to create a bit of mood.

Took 860 photographs, you can see the best 160 at Flickr. I think this one though is the one I like the best:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3217/2398545094_863261dc60_o.jpg

And no, I am not going to go back and read the last week's "news".

My parcel arrived thanks Mark. Can't wait to try it out.
Nice Bruce. Sounds like you had a good time. I've got holidays at the end of this week for two weeks but I would be keen for another wellington meet after that. Dave? Anyone else?

[stelari]

Wahoo! Got a couple of cool ones by the looks of it! Need sleep but I'll get onto processing soon. :D

Good to see you survived! Looking forward to seeing the results :)

[NZDoug]

And I don't know what 'twat' means in your part of the world, but I do know what part of the female anatomy it refers to here.
Please refrain from using that kind of language.
Thanks.
Hi Belmondo, twat means twit down under, that is, in Oz -NZ.
(Not that other down under) :oops:
Im a CDN-KIWI bloke so Im bi ling.....:p

[Moppie]

Sorry, you have me totally lost, qualifies for what? Please expalin, sounds interesting


If you get hold of CyberDyneSystems, the mod/admin and show him the photo, he can give you posting access to the G&N forum.
Then I don't have to worry about seeing things on my work PC that might offend certain groups with in our population. :)

Rifle. And will check distance. Either 25 or 30 metres.

Cliff

Cool, then thats a damn nice grouping, about the same size as a rabbits head. :cool:




Chris,

That light painting is very cool!

I could see a whole series done like that.

[rabbs]

Hey all, are there many members living in the lower part of the country?

[sothen]

I used to live in Omakau - does that count?? :D

...not many, if any, skin skeny....

[tag141]

Hi Belmondo, twat means twit down under, that is, in Oz -NZ.
(Not that other down under) :oops:
Im a CDN-KIWI bloke so Im bi ling.....:p

Keep digging.;)

Hey all, are there many members living in the lower part of the country?

Well I left Invers last October. Does that count? BJkiwi is from Riverton way.

[rabbs]

so how does Omakau compare to Tauranga?

[sothen]

Omakau has seasons - I miss winter - I used to skate on the lakes and ski in our front paddock..... Tauranga has surf though..... :D

[Nzshrimper]

And I don't know what 'twat' means in your part of the world, but I do know what part of the female anatomy it refers to here.

Please refrain from using that kind of language.


Thanks.

hmm Tom two ways to look at this ....

first is the fact that i am English and speak the English that i as taught during my public school upbringing. where as you have US English, which to be honest is a bastardized version of English. Thus this gives me the moral high ground on my choice of English. Just because a word mean something else in your part of the world does mean it translates the same else where..

the second point of view is that you are a moderator within this forum and this gives you a higher power than i can claim, therefore this allows you to interpret the rules of the forum.

So with that in mind i believe that your royal flush beats my full house, so i will refrain from using that adjective to describe Matt.

Therefore i have given this some thought and would to use another adjective to describe him. so if it is acceptable can i use the word 'tosser' to describe my feeling toward that member that has caused no end of trouble within the GKPE forum and has lead to a number of well respect members to leave the forum. Whilst i know that i am not completely innocent here and the one with sin should not be casting the first stone, i feel a stand needs to be made.

Anyway folks remember mods are your friends...

[Wazza]

That's just as bad as an insult and childish.
Why not use the ignore feature? All of you?

[Belmondo]

hmm Tom two ways to look at this ....

first is the fact that i am English and speak the English that i as taught during my public school upbringing. where as you have US English, which to be honest is a bastardized version of English. Thus this gives me the moral high ground on my choice of English. Just because a word mean something else in your part of the world does mean it translates the same else where..

the second point of view is that you are a moderator within this forum and this gives you a higher power than i can claim, therefore this allows you to interpret the rules of the forum.

So with that in mind i believe that your royal flush beats my full house, so i will refrain from using that adjective to describe Matt.

Therefore i have given this some thought and would to use another adjective to describe him. so if it is acceptable can i use the word 'tosser' to describe my feeling toward that member that has caused no end of trouble within the GKPE forum and has lead to a number of well respect members to leave the forum. Whilst i know that i am not completely innocent here and the one with sin should not be casting the first stone, i feel a stand needs to be made.

Anyway folks remember mods are your friends...

We don't need adjectives to describe any member. If you have a problem, ignore him, but don't start looking for the most offensive word you can slip by with. Sooner or later you're going to cross the line.

This has historically been one of the friendlier threads on the forum. I don't know why you guys are getting so testy all of a sudden, but it's unbecoming and I'd really like it to stop. Please go back to your friendly former selves.

[Don28]

photog related question.... sorry I couldn't be bothered searching, plus I want to hear your opinions.

do you guys always frame your shots, like what you see in the viewfinder before you shoot is what you get as your end image? <---- hope that makes sense?

Or

do you always leave room in the pictre for some flexibility in cropping later?

for some funny reason I have a feeling am making a mistake framing my shots almost all of the time :P I have always been told to frame my shots.

I can somehow now see what advantages there are in to leaving room for cropping your shot later to your desired composition.

[Nzshrimper]

That's just as bad as an insult and childish.
Why not use the ignore feature? All of you?

lol - sorry there is an ironic statement there...

and he is on that list but when he is quoted by others, he appears. Also i don't think i am the only one in this boat...

but as i think is the case the situation has been resolved so we can all be friends again...

[Nzshrimper]

We don't need adjectives to describe any member. If you have a problem, ignore him, but don't start looking for the most offensive word you can slip by with. Sooner or later you're going to cross the line.

This has historically been one of the friendlier threads on the forum. I don't know why you guys are getting so testy all of a sudden, but it's unbecoming and I'd really like it to stop. Please go back to your friendly former selves.


point taken and noted...

[Nzshrimper]

photog related question.... sorry I couldn't be bothered searching, plus I want to hear your opinions.

do you guys always frame your shots, like what you see in the viewfinder before you shoot is what you get as your end image? <---- hope that makes sense?

Or

do you always leave room in the pictre for some flexibility in cropping later?

for some funny reason I have a feeling am making a mistake framing my shots almost all of the time :P I have always been told to frame my shots.

I can somehow now see what advantages there are in to leaving room for cropping your shot later to your desired composition.


i believe the compose your shot and frame it how you wish it to be seen within the camera is the best way.. this will lead you to be a more accomplished photog.

however sometimes it is good to leave a little room for error.

there are of course times where it is important to leave space - like when shooting panos.. you need a good overlap of the frames to allow stitching of the frames together...

[lil_miss]

I always try to frame it how I want it in the camera.. you lose image quality if you start cropping and making it smaller

[Sancho]

Yeah, I always try to frame as close as poss in camera too, gives you more pixels to print later if you capture that magic shot that you want as big as poss :)

[Belmondo]

lol - sorry there is an ironic statement there...

and he is on that list but when he is quoted by others, he appears. Also i don't think i am the only one in this boat...

but as i think is the case the situation has been resolved so we can all be friends again...

Let's hope. I've read back over the last couple days, and there are lots of people who would do well to go back and read the forum's 'Don't Be A Jerk' rule.

I'm actually embarrassed for some of you. It is so reminiscent of schoolyard bullies. They generally travel in packs, and pick on the most vulnerable people.

Most of us outgrow that. Some never do.

[Sancho]

YEEEHAAAAA

work has put me on 3 x 10 hours days, 4 day weekends EVERY weekend LOL this job is going to be sooo hard to leave :)

[lil_miss]

Let's hope. I've read back over the last couple days, and there are lots of people who would do well to go back and read the forum's 'Don't Be A Jerk' rule.

I'm actually embarrassed for some of you. It is so reminiscent of schoolyard bullies. They generally travel in packs, and pick on the most vulnerable people.

Most of us outgrow that. Some never do.

While I do agree with you here - it has also gone back the other way as well - its been a 2 way street... so the "vulnerable" are not necessarily blameless...

Others need to remember that it is the internet and people shouldnt get so consumed in it... should most of the ppl here get together in real life - I'm sure it would be completely different.

[Don28]

YEEEHAAAAA

work has put me on 3 x 10 hours days, 4 day weekends EVERY weekend LOL this job is going to be sooo hard to leave :)


Feck am jealous! :p

BTW, very cool shot Sancho! Very "darkish" - kinda like a shoot for a metal
band.

Thanks for the response guys re my question! :D

Have you guys come accross problems when printing your pictures? I mean if you want anything bigger other than the standard 4X6? I come accross problems where it will crop my original picture, therefore losing my composition & framing.

This maybe due to my lack of printing knowledge... :(

[Nzshrimper]

moving on....

Mark - nice one... you hard working man you...

[lil_miss]

Have you guys come accross problems when printing your pictures? I mean if you want anything bigger other than the standard 4X6? I come accross problems where it will crop my original picture, therefore losing my composition & framing.

This maybe due to my lack of printing knowledge... :(

You need ot make sure you select the same ratio..

eg.... 8x10 is not the same as 6x4... you would need 8x12 instead to avoid croppping edges off... same with 6x8 - its would crop.. correct size would be 6x9 etc :)

Have a look here : http://www.frogprints.co.nz/help/cropping.cfm
or here : http://www.frogprints.co.nz/help/ratio.cfm

[Belmondo]

While I do agree with you here - it has also gone back the other way as well - its been a 2 way street... so the "vulnerable" are not necessarily blameless...

Others need to remember that it is the internet and people shouldnt get so consumed in it... should most of the ppl here get together in real life - I'm sure it would be completely different.

Look, let me be as clear as I can on this.

I have the highest regard for everyone in this thread.

Everyone.

If I didn't, I would handle this very differently, and some of you would be decidedly unhappy right now. I'm only suggesting that you all do your best to make every member who passes through or hangs out here feel welcome and equal. Mocking and/or ridiculing someone is not the way to do that. If you can't read back through the last few days and figure out who I'm talking about, let me know and I will explain it, in sign language if necessary.

While I'm at it, let me remind you that while this thread is populated by a relatively small number of people in terms of the forum's overall numbers, you are still bound by forum rules, even those pertaining to foul language. While we try to make allowances for regional idioms, I think some of you have really been pressing your luck lately. Don't do it. If you can't communicate without vulgarities, you have serious problems, and should probably be posting in a game forum. They like that sort of thing.

Moving on....




Moderators are your friends. Friendship has its limits, though.

[manipula]

Ohhh, can't wait, you know you havn't really posted anything since I joined late december so its GREAT to see/hear you getting some passion back again :)

Oh, any critique on the shot I posted earlier, was interested to hear your thoughts.

*sigh* off to work for me now - think I'll push this 3 x 10 hour days thing, squeeky wheel and all that :)

If you mean the nude guy photo, then I quite liked it. Certainly got a lot of punch to it, and an impact which I think a lot of good portraiture does. Personally (and I know this may sound hypocrytical seeing as I do it myself a lot) I found I couldn't connect to him that last 20% seeing as his face was closed off. I also recognise that it kinda goes with the feel of the shot too so...

photog related question.... sorry I couldn't be bothered searching, plus I want to hear your opinions.

do you guys always frame your shots, like what you see in the viewfinder before you shoot is what you get as your end image? <---- hope that makes sense?

Or

do you always leave room in the pictre for some flexibility in cropping later?

for some funny reason I have a feeling am making a mistake framing my shots almost all of the time :P I have always been told to frame my shots.

I can somehow now see what advantages there are in to leaving room for cropping your shot later to your desired composition.

I almost always show my work full frame and very rarely crop. Henri Cartier Bresson made this approach seem a bit 'ooh get me, aren't I cool' by exhibiting and framing/publishing his photos like that in all bar one shot I think. The fact he went on and on about it, slightly putting down those that cropped in my eyes makes the 'I don't crop' thing seem a bit sheep following the herd to be cool, but despite that I think it's something I prefer to stand by. Forces you to get good at composing, especially with people say where you're moving around a lot, and IQ is better too.

YEEEHAAAAA

work has put me on 3 x 10 hours days, 4 day weekends EVERY weekend LOL this job is going to be sooo hard to leave :)

Repeat after me: "I am a ****."

You need ot make sure you select the same ratio..

eg.... 8x10 is not the same as 6x4... you would need 8x12 instead to avoid croppping edges off... same with 6x8 - its would crop.. correct size would be 6x9 etc :)

Have a look here : http://www.frogprints.co.nz/help/cropping.cfm
or here : http://www.frogprints.co.nz/help/ratio.cfm


Really good point! ^^^ :D

Remember also that with commercial printers, all commercial printers I've ever seen, even if you pick the right aspect ratio for your print in relation to the camera, they will crop some of the image off anyway. When I used to work in the camera store, only way I could get a decent full frame print was to set up a custom page size on the minilab for every shot. Takes aaages. :?

Guys who print using high end inkjet, gyclee or dye-sub printers may be able to print full image much more easily for what it's worth.


<Rubs bleery eyes>

I hadn't realised how hard I was pushing myself last night, I proper sparked out as soon as I looked at the bed, and waking up just now feels like I've had two hours sleep, not nine. :?

[NZDoug]

Hey, youse fellas,
Ive got a Epson 4000 big format printer.
I print portfolios for some commercial studios on Epson Enhanced matt up to 17 inches by any length. Ultrachrome 100 year ink, Wilhelm test.
If you need high quality prints, pm me and I can print your stuff before your very eyes....;)

[Don28]

excellent, thanks for the feedback guys & thanks for the links lil miss :)

turns out it is my lack of understanding ratios :P

[manipula]

Hey, youse fellas,
Ive got a Epson 4000 big format printer.
I print portfolios for some commercial studios on Epson Enhanced matt up to 17 inches by any length. Ultrachrome 100 year ink, Wilhelm test.
If you need high quality prints, pm me and I can print your stuff before your very eyes....;)

Noted. ;)

I have a huge panoramic frame to fill here... :p

[NZDoug]

Noted. ;)

I have a huge panoramic frame to fill here... :p

me fix. :p

[Nzshrimper]

Look, let me be as clear as I can on this.

I have the highest regard for everyone in this thread.

Everyone.

If I didn't, I would handle this very differently, and some of you would be decidedly unhappy right now. I'm only suggesting that you all do your best to make every member who passes through or hangs out here feel welcome and equal. Mocking and/or ridiculing someone is not the way to do that. If you can't read back through the last few days and figure out who I'm talking about, let me know and I will explain it, in sign language if necessary.

While I'm at it, let me remind you that while this thread is populated by a relatively small number of people in terms of the forum's overall numbers, you are still bound by forum rules, even those pertaining to foul language. While we try to make allowances for regional idioms, I think some of you have really been pressing your luck lately. Don't do it. If you can't communicate without vulgarities, you have serious problems, and should probably be posting in a game forum. They like that sort of thing.

Moving on....




Moderators are your friends. Friendship has its limits, though.

fair points...

now as we are all here would this not be a good time to start the new thread as we are nearing our 10k limit and a new home, new start thing could happen and also be what we all need....

with us all leaveing out egos at the door...

[naqs]

Hey, youse fellas,
Ive got a Epson 4000 big format printer.
I print portfolios for some commercial studios on Epson Enhanced matt up to 17 inches by any length. Ultrachrome 100 year ink, Wilhelm test.
If you need high quality prints, pm me and I can print your stuff before your very eyes....;)

Also noted!

I may have some large grand canyon photos to be printed ;)

[Belmondo]

fair points...

now as we are all here would this not be a good time to start the new thread as we are nearing our 10k limit and a new home, new start thing could happen and also be what we all need....

with us all leaveing out egos at the door...

Worth a try.

Go here.
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5289919#post5289919