CF speeds damage camera - is this true

[rammy]

Apparently, high speed CF cards 20x 40x etc, can damage the EOS 300D.

I am thinking of of purchasing a 66x 1GB CF card, has anyone else heard about this issue?

Thanks

[tommykjensen]

How should that be possible?


You can buy those with no risk but You won't benefit from the extra speed due to the design of 300D. So there is no need to buy fast cards onless You already know or plan to upgrade to a camera that can utilitze the extra speed (1D MKII / 20D).



Nikon have reported that cheap cards can damage the PINS in the camera due to less accuracy in manufactoring of the cards.

[defordphoto]

Apparently, high speed CF cards 20x 40x etc, can damage the EOS 300D.

I am thinking of of purchasing a 66x 1GB CF card, has anyone else heard about this issue?

Thanks

Welcome to the forum. Where'd you hear that? That's absolutely ridiculous.

[drisley]

Well, sure high speed cards can damage a camera.

Here is a test:
Put your expensive compact flash card into a sling-shot....
Aim at your 300D (preferably the back LCD)....
Now FIRE!
I'm sure that high speed card will do some damage, don't you think?

[Morden]

Apparently, high speed CF cards 20x 40x etc, can damage the EOS 300D.

Where did you hear such nonesense?

BTW, do you want to buy some real estate?

[Ikinaa]

Apparently, high speed CF cards 20x 40x etc, can damage the EOS 300D.

Where did you hear such nonesense?

BTW, do you want to buy some real estate?

No nonsense...

:twisted: BTW : Do you want to buy for an enormous amount of money some Voodoo-stuff to prevent damage from highspeed-CF-cards in EOS300D ? :twisted:

[drisley]

This would be equivalent to a high speed compact flash card damaging your computer if you plugged it into a usb1.1 reader instead of a usb2.0.

Perhaps somebody was just having some fun.

[CoolToolGuy]

Rammy, welcome to the forum. I hope you will find it valuable.

So I was thinking about this, and perhaps the fast cards want to get the data from the camera badly enough that they create a sort of 'data vacuum' that sucks the data out of the camera. If the card is that much faster than the camera, it might cause the the body to collapse. :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Seriously, I have not heard of any such issue. I have always used the fastest cards I could find in my Drebel, and I have never had an issue.

Have Fun,

[RichardtheSane]

ALthough Rammy, it is worth noting that you won't see a marked increasein speed when buying a 66x CF cardon the rebel over a 30x - maybe not even over a 12x

[FlipsidE]

Well, sure high speed cards can damage a camera.

Here is a test:
Put your expensive compact flash card into a sling-shot....
Aim at your 300D (preferably the back LCD)....
Now FIRE!
I'm sure that high speed card will do some damage, don't you?

- I think drisley's got a point here :lol:

[rammy]

I can't believe the tact of some people, especially to new joiners!

I'm sorry I even asked!

I found a post here that flagged a warning in the Canon forum:

www.dpforums.com

[elbirth]

I can't believe the tact of some people, especially to new joiners!

I'm sorry I even asked!

I found a post here that flagged a warning in the Canon forum:

www.dpforums.com

a direct link to the thread would be more helpful


and in all seriousness, the answers you got were people just joking around.... this forum is VERY VERY much tamer than some others I visit- sorry to say it, but if you're gotten away with by the responses received here, you might find some others offensive, even.

[Morden]

I meant no offense, as I'm sure that the other posters didn't. I'm sorry if I offended you.

[Belmondo]

I can't believe the tact of some people, especially to new joiners!

I'm sorry I even asked!

I found a post here that flagged a warning in the Canon forum:

www.dpforums.com

The short answer is: don't worry about it. There has never been a camera failure caused by the read/write speed of the compact flash card. If there had been, we would have heard a lot about it from many different sources.

Please don't take offense at the good-natured banter here. You will find that this is far and away the friendliest photogaphy forum around. These people are not making fun of you. They're having the same fun with you as they would with members of long standing.

By the way.....welcome to the forum.

[Reminisce]

Nope, its the same effect of putting a 60x CD-R in your CD writer which can only write at 32x. It will only cap at 32x and thats it. No damage is possible with read/write access because the media never requests for a certain speed, it just usually has (depending on the media) a broader bandwidth or fast capable spin/access time. In short: dont sweat it.

Also, I think the 300D has a read/write access speed of no more than 20-24x? I could be off a bit, but I read on some site where they did a read/write speed test with various cameras.

[CoolToolGuy]

Rammy,

No offense intended, humor value only. Now some more serious stuff -

Rob Galbraith has an extensive database of testing with many of the available cards on most of the popular cameras. Look Here:
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007

I have never heard of a damage issue related to the speed of the card. There may be wasted capability, but never damage.

Have Fun,

[CyberDyneSystems]

It's all in good humor.... :lol:

[Mogwyth]

I find it hard to credit as I have used a mix a standard and ultra II cards in mine for the last 3 months with no problems.

Although the poster (see below) says it came from Canon, but it is to do with the 10D not the 300D.

http://www.dpforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=706

[Cadwell]

Smells very strongly of the farmyard.

[PacAce]

Nope, its the same effect of putting a 60x CD-R in your CD writer which can only write at 32x. It will only cap at 32x and thats it. No damage is possible with read/write access because the media never requests for a certain speed, it just usually has (depending on the media) a broader bandwidth or fast capable spin/access time. In short: dont sweat it.

Also, I think the 300D has a read/write access speed of no more than 20-24x? I could be off a bit, but I read on some site where they did a read/write speed test with various cameras.

It's interesting that you should point this out because there was one case where a higher speed media could have caused damage to a hardware. I am referring specifically to the Pioneer DVR-A04 DVD-R/W drive. Here's a link to Pioneer's website where they indicate the possibility of damage to the drive:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/hs/pioneer.html

[Jesper]

Rammy,

Welcome to the forums! I hope the initial reactions didn't scare you off. The forums here on photography-on-the.net are my favourite, because generally people are very relaxed and helpful here.

Fast CF cards absolutely do not damage your camera. I've never heard of this or anyone damaging their camera because the card was too fast. Fast CF cards work exactly the same as slower ones - there is no reason why a fast card could damage your camera. They don't work with higher voltages and don't get hot or anything like that.

You know, what you read on Internet is even less reliable than what you see on TV or read in the newspaper. People are imagining all kinds of problems etc. all the time and before you know it, others start to believe in them.... Maybe the guy who posted the warning on the other forum misunderstood the Canon representative he spoke to.

[Jesper]

Nope, its the same effect of putting a 60x CD-R in your CD writer which can only write at 32x. It will only cap at 32x and thats it. No damage is possible with read/write access because the media never requests for a certain speed, it just usually has (depending on the media) a broader bandwidth or fast capable spin/access time. In short: dont sweat it.

Also, I think the 300D has a read/write access speed of no more than 20-24x? I could be off a bit, but I read on some site where they did a read/write speed test with various cameras.

It's interesting that you should point this out because there was one case where a higher speed media could have caused damage to a hardware. I am referring specifically to the Pioneer DVR-A04 DVD-R/W drive. Here's a link to Pioneer's website where they indicate the possibility of damage to the drive:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/hs/pioneer.html

Yes, but in a DVD writer, there are all kinds of mechanical things and lasers etc. used to write a disc. I can imagine that if there's a bug in the firmware of the drive, that spins the disc too fast or turns up the laser too high or something like that, it could damage the hardware.

But a CF card has no moving parts, so a bug in the firmware of the camera isn't very likely to damage the camera or the CF card.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Still good point about the DVD-R.. I actually have one of those old Pioneers and forgot about that "bug" :)

[PacAce]

Nope, its the same effect of putting a 60x CD-R in your CD writer which can only write at 32x. It will only cap at 32x and thats it. No damage is possible with read/write access because the media never requests for a certain speed, it just usually has (depending on the media) a broader bandwidth or fast capable spin/access time. In short: dont sweat it.

Also, I think the 300D has a read/write access speed of no more than 20-24x? I could be off a bit, but I read on some site where they did a read/write speed test with various cameras.

It's interesting that you should point this out because there was one case where a higher speed media could have caused damage to a hardware. I am referring specifically to the Pioneer DVR-A04 DVD-R/W drive. Here's a link to Pioneer's website where they indicate the possibility of damage to the drive:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/hs/pioneer.html

Yes, but in a DVD writer, there are all kinds of mechanical things and lasers etc. used to write a disc. I can imagine that if there's a bug in the firmware of the drive, that spins the disc too fast or turns up the laser too high or something like that, it could damage the hardware.

But a CF card has no moving parts, so a bug in the firmware of the camera isn't very likely to damage the camera or the CF card.

Yes, I agree 100% with you re the CF card. I just brought up the issue about the DVD-R because of the analogy to the CD/RW that was made earlier. :)