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cleanbluesky
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 12:09
As title. I want to make a website...
Fenster
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 12:16
http://www.bhalash.com/main/archives/216
Gatorboy
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 12:25
Start with notepad -- it's free!
gymell
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 12:52
Vi. :cool:
Fenster
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 13:07
Vi. :cool:
<Obligatory Emacs retort>
Cybnew
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 13:13
Dreamweaver and Swishmax
photoguy6405
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 16:28
Nvu, TextPad, books, and internet searches.
flipstyle72
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 16:38
first ever site I ever made was a combination of notepad and the wysiwig (sp) on Geocities back some years ago...
You'd have to be quite the master at html and java and all sorts of other languages to code a site in notepad that will look as nice as some of the ones you see these other guys have. not to mention the flash that's so hyped up about and used.
If you are little computer literate, and working on a budget (want free stuff) try one of the content managers like Joomla or Mambo. REally robust software and lots of cool add-ons (ex. member accounts, forums, galleries etc...) most of which are nearly plug and play. Lots of free templates as well as purchaseable ones. Or get one custom made. Of course, you'll need the properly supportive hosting (Unix for the Mambo software)...but even then, that is dirt cheap these days. (PM me, i know someone if interested)
If you want to pay - someone said Macromedia Dreamweaver. Pretty neat software. You can get in bundled with Flash editor and Fireworks (graphics) too. Dreamweaver is also used to make templates for the above mentioned Mambo type of content managers.
bieber
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 16:42
You'd have to be quite the master at html and java and all sorts of other languages to code a site in notepad that will look as nice as some of the ones you see these other guys have. not to mention the flash that's so hyped up about and used.
You don't need to know anything about Java, and XHTML and CSS really aren't that difficult. Hand-coding is the way to go, if you want it to be your site, and not somebody else's with some custom graphics. If you can't do it yourself, it's absolutely worth it to pay someone else to do it.
As for me, I use the GNOME text editor, or Emacs for serious editing of server-side scripts and such...
Jayson Prentice
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 16:45
I used the good ol' text editor as well... Raw html coding for me is the way to go.
flipstyle72
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 16:46
You don't need to know anything about Java, and XHTML and CSS really aren't that difficult. Hand-coding is the way to go, if you want it to be your site, and not somebody else's with some custom graphics. If you can't do it yourself, it's absolutely worth it to pay someone else to do it.
As for me, I use the GNOME text editor, or Emacs for serious editing of server-side scripts and such...
but for someone who has to "ask" what software to use to make a website, I'm guessing He'll have to learn a good bit to code a site that would be up to par with the norm you see from other photogs here. Trust me, it's not as easy for the general public to learn that sorta stuff. And can you honestly tell me you can "code" a site similiar to the professional looking ones here?
and I agree, it is worth it to pay someone else if you don't have the time to do it right yourself.
flipstyle72
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 16:56
I used the good ol' text editor as well... Raw html coding for me is the way to go.
I remember you posting about it. Very nice clean site. Not to pick on you or point it out, but the conveyor belt slideshow on your page. To code somethign like that isn't for a beginner. That was obviously taken from somewhere else. Nothign wrong with that at all. Everyone does it. I just see many people quickly say "notepad!" or "html editor" And for a beginner or someone who really hasnt' been around the "internet" block, won't get something fancy and professional looking unless they did some extensive studying on how to code.
So the people who say that kinda stuff give the wrong impression to the newbs that it's piece of cake work with a text editor, then get frustrated and blow up the local gas station...lol
Subyn00by
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 16:57
notepad and photoshop...and the internet.
mr_e
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 16:59
For me, notepad
Dreamweaver isn't a bad option though, and once upon a time I tried Aptana, dunno if it's still good, but it was back then
I would also stay away from Joomla/Mambo, in my opinion you could get better results with Wordpress, it's simpler and much better coded, and I've had to deal extensively with both
Don't underestimate the value of a well done website though
michael_
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 17:23
photoshop, dreamweaver, notepad
photoguy6405
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 17:47
For all the people using Notepad... I'd recommend checking out TextPad. I eventually paid for mine (about $30) but you can use it for free and it has some great features such as color coding for html and website writing that is far superior to Notepad. IMHO, of course.
KevinAldrich
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 20:12
Dreamweaver and Fireworks get the job done for me.
Scorpio
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 21:19
Notepad++ (http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/site.htm)
bieber
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 21:35
And can you honestly tell me you can "code" a site similiar to the professional looking ones here?
Yes: in fact, that used to be my profession. Take a quick look here (http://teamcoupland.com) for an example. They'd already hired an artist for the graphics, but the underlying code is all mine, written by hand. This isn't 1998, and no one who knows what they're doing is using insanely complicated nested table layouts anymore: with (X)HTML and CSS, you just lay out your markup semantically, then style it however you want with stylesheets.
My work may not be the best example, but just look at the portfolios of the really high end web design companies: you're going to see hand-coded, semantic pages, not messes of tables generated by some crap like DreamWeaver.
Anywho, my latest endeavor is a new site for myself (http://bieberphoto.com), but I'm not really calling it complete just yet.
flipstyle72
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 23:00
Yes: in fact, that used to be my profession. Take a quick look here (http://teamcoupland.com) for an example. They'd already hired an artist for the graphics, but the underlying code is all mine, written by hand. This isn't 1998, and no one who knows what they're doing is using insanely complicated nested table layouts anymore: with (X)HTML and CSS, you just lay out your markup semantically, then style it however you want with stylesheets.
My work may not be the best example, but just look at the portfolios of the really high end web design companies: you're going to see hand-coded, semantic pages, not messes of tables generated by some crap like DreamWeaver.
Anywho, my latest endeavor is a new site for myself (http://bieberphoto.com), but I'm not really calling it complete just yet.
Used to be your profession? I thought you were an 18 year old kid? You retiring already?
Well, I commend you on your l33t "coding" skills...and you just picked up on web design how long ago? My point is, not any one can jump right into it without taking some time to learn.
And I wouldn't necessarily call Dreamweaver crap. sure, it can create crap if the user has no clue what they are doing.
PhotosGuy
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 23:15
What software did you use to make your site... Maybe you could tell us what you want your site to do? Show images? Sell images? Sell services? Yaddayadda...
Jayson Prentice
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 23:30
I remember you posting about it. Very nice clean site. Not to pick on you or point it out, but the conveyor belt slideshow on your page. To code somethign like that isn't for a beginner. That was obviously taken from somewhere else. Nothign wrong with that at all. Everyone does it. I just see many people quickly say "notepad!" or "html editor" And for a beginner or someone who really hasnt' been around the "internet" block, won't get something fancy and professional looking unless they did some extensive studying on how to code.
So the people who say that kinda stuff give the wrong impression to the newbs that it's piece of cake work with a text editor, then get frustrated and blow up the local gas station...lol
The slideshow is something that I found online. Several javascript codes and other things you can find online and use on the site as long as you keep their info in the code. The only way you can view it is if you actually 'view source' on the webpage which any typical user won't do anyway.
I truly believe though that if you wish, you can learn the basics of html and setup a nice basic site within a month. My site basically just using tables and other basic information, if you want I can probably look up a few of the links that I used to use that has quite a bit of info to start you out.
Cybnew
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 23:36
I use dreamweaver basically because it is easy to switch between code and wysiwyg. I do most of my animated stuff in swishmax because I am impatient, and swish has most of the stuff that flash has...but in convenient little options. I also use wordpress for my blog.
flipstyle72
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 23:41
The slideshow is something that I found online. Several javascript codes and other things you can find online and use on the site as long as you keep their info in the code. The only way you can view it is if you actually 'view source' on the webpage which any typical user won't do anyway.
I truly believe though that if you wish, you can learn the basics of html and setup a nice basic site within a month. My site basically just using tables and other basic information, if you want I can probably look up a few of the links that I used to use that has quite a bit of info to start you out.
Thanks! by all means, post them up for the OP. I'm no expert, but I've actually done some extensive web development in the past. My first ever site was notepad developed uploaded to a geocities site back before Yahoo was even close to a household name...lol.
EnronRocks
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 23:41
Download a 30 day trial of DreamWeaver and buy it. Worth the money, and you will use it after you figure out how to use it non stop.
http://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver/?ogn=EN_US-gntray_prod_dreamweaver_home
Also if you do not know HTML or any code, I recommend you get a book at your local book store.
cdifoto
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 23:45
I took an oscommerce installation, then hacked it up using winsyntax.
NGrinerPhoto
26th of February 2008 (Tue), 23:57
iweb if you're on a mac
EnronRocks
27th of February 2008 (Wed), 00:11
iweb if you're on a mac
Just do not use .mac to host your website, one thing Apple can not do is run servers with good load times.
ricke46
27th of February 2008 (Wed), 01:04
So the people who say that kinda stuff give the wrong impression to the newbs that it's piece of cake work with a text editor, then get frustrated and blow up the local gas station...lol
Hahahaha...
Adobe CS3 has all you need to build a site.
flipstyle72
27th of February 2008 (Wed), 01:09
Hahahaha...
Adobe CS3 has all you need to build a site.
you know, i have cs3 and have yet to explore those capabilities... will need to try that out some day.
EnronRocks
27th of February 2008 (Wed), 02:15
you know, i have cs3 and have yet to explore those capabilities... will need to try that out some day.
You still have to have some code knowledge, its good for saving a website when making it out of nothing but images I will agree with that.
bieber
27th of February 2008 (Wed), 06:53
Used to be your profession? I thought you were an 18 year old kid? You retiring already?
Well, I commend you on your l33t "coding" skills...and you just picked up on web design how long ago? My point is, not any one can jump right into it without taking some time to learn.
Condescending much? I have, believe it or not, held jobs as a teenager. I didn't just "pick up on" web development, I spent the better part of a year thoroughly learning the XHTML and CSS standards. So no, it's not something you can learn right away...hence my suggestion to hire someone else to do it if you can't. No need to be snide about it.
flipstyle72
27th of February 2008 (Wed), 10:21
Condescending much? I have, believe it or not, held jobs as a teenager. I didn't just "pick up on" web development, I spent the better part of a year thoroughly learning the XHTML and CSS standards. So no, it's not something you can learn right away...hence my suggestion to hire someone else to do it if you can't. No need to be snide about it.
thanks, you prove my point for me. :D
I wasn't being snide or malicious in any way, but comical. It's my character. I apologize if I hurt your feelings.
Fenster
27th of February 2008 (Wed), 12:03
Notepad++ (http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/site.htm)
You are my new hero. I've been hunting for a decent text editor for Windows for the longest time.
Halcyon
27th of February 2008 (Wed), 16:12
MS Word and "save as" html...
Hahahahahah!!!
No.
Still on hotmetal 6 (but only because of the colour coding html) and you can open all the pages for your web site as tabs and save it as one.
But that notepad++ looks interesting
flipstyle72
27th of February 2008 (Wed), 16:35
MS Word and "save as" html...
Hahahahahah!!!
No.
don't forget Frontpage!!!!:lol:
EnronRocks
27th of February 2008 (Wed), 23:46
don't forget Frontpage!!!!:lol:
Oh man Frontpage! How you were made of fail until FrontPage 2003 made it to the market, I need to find a copy of it.
photoguy6405
27th of February 2008 (Wed), 23:50
My first website about 10 years ago was made with FrontPage Express 2. Talk about old and archaic! :cool:
I still have that program, too.
EnronRocks
27th of February 2008 (Wed), 23:55
My first website about 10 years ago was made with FrontPage Express 2. Talk about old and archaic! :cool:
I still have that program, too.
Can't you make websites in Microsoft Word too and save them as HTML files? I can't remember if this is possible.
photoguy6405
28th of February 2008 (Thu), 00:11
Can't you make websites in Microsoft Word too and save them as HTML files? I can't remember if this is possible.
Not sure. I'm a WordPerfect man, myself when I need a serious word processor. I've never checked to see if WP can do it. I last used Nvu and TextPad.
primoz
28th of February 2008 (Thu), 02:31
Vi.
Yes, vi... The only way to go :)
PEnGUiN188
28th of February 2008 (Thu), 02:31
All photoshop and dreamweaver, I have been doing websites longer than i have been doing photography.
Scorpio
28th of February 2008 (Thu), 04:59
You are my new hero. I've been hunting for a decent text editor for Windows for the longest time.
Hehehe... glad to be of service!
I've used it for quite a while now, and have found it to be very good. It's my perfect combination of plain and simple with just the features I need.
souporman
28th of February 2008 (Thu), 06:38
I used to do everything with notepad, but have been using homesite (http://www.adobe.com/products/homesite/) for the past six or seven years now. It's just a glorified text editor that highlights code to make things a bit easier to read.
Can't go far without photoshop either though!
miklav
28th of February 2008 (Thu), 07:56
Notepad++ (http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/site.htm)
I've tried several WYSIWYG editors over time and was never able to get what I wanted. So I ended up using Notepad; and later Notepad++ that is quite handy tool.
One exception - in my last site re-design I used JAlbum for making photogallery (with a lot of code customization in Notepad++)
This is indeed not a way to go for everybody because HTML and CSS and Javascript require some learning...
PhotosGuy
28th of February 2008 (Thu), 09:07
in my last site re-design I used JAlbum for making photogallery (with a lot of code customization in Notepad++)
This is indeed not a way to go for everybody because HTML and CSS and Javascript require some learning... The nice thing about JAlbum is that they have a forum & the designers are very helpful with customization. If I can do it... ;)
John_P
28th of February 2008 (Thu), 10:57
Another vote for Notepad++!
My original gallery was done with JAlbum, but I dropped that because it was such a pain to customize. Now I use a custom php/mysql gallery done in Notepad++.
John
Yanis
28th of February 2008 (Thu), 22:08
Dreamweaver and Photoshop, mainly. :D
OdiN1701
28th of February 2008 (Thu), 22:15
I do all the graphic design in Photoshop, then I cut up the image to how I want it to be.
I use FrontPage....WAIT!!....I don't use it's default crap. I use FrontPage because I can quickly make tables by drawing them - then all I have to do is modify the HTML in the text editing portion of it.
I also like it because I can just type into it when typing out content. I muck with CSS and such in text editors.
bieber
28th of February 2008 (Thu), 22:36
Methinks this is pretty relevant ;) : 9 Signs You Shouldn't Hire THAT Web Designer (http://css.dzone.com/news/9-signs-you-shouldnt-hire-web-)
And please people, for the love of all that is good and holy on the Internet, don't use tables for layout. They're supposed to hold tabular data. That's it.
miklav
29th of February 2008 (Fri), 05:23
Another vote for Notepad++!
My original gallery was done with JAlbum, but I dropped that because it was such a pain to customize. Now I use a custom php/mysql gallery done in Notepad++.
John
I did just the opposite! :) I did have self-written php/mysql gallery done in Notepad++, but I found it's not very convenient to manage/update. Customisation of JAlbum skin and CSS (to match the design of my site) required several days of work but it's just one-time exercise.
One disadvantage of JAlbum is that it uses a lot of outdated HTML code and tables for layout, but it's too much a big deal for me now.
John_P
29th of February 2008 (Fri), 07:51
I did just the opposite! :) I did have self-written php/mysql gallery done in Notepad++, but I found it's not very convenient to manage/update.
Well, I guess it could go either way...:)
When I first did mine I made myself a little control panel and everything, so when I need to add a photo, I just login and fill in the blanks.
John
AB8ND
29th of February 2008 (Fri), 08:10
Hand coding with Notepad, free and the code is (or should be anyway) tighter than when using the 'big' names. I did switch to using Coffeecup, just to make things easier, but still hand coding. I've worked with GoLive and seen the source code done with some of the others - what a mess. Now I have to admit I don;t have a fancy dancy site, but that is only cause I spend more time shooting than coding these days, and I'm lazy.
Jack
AB8ND
29th of February 2008 (Fri), 08:18
Hand coding with Notepad, free and the code is (or should be anyway) tighter than the 'big' names. I did swtich to using Coffeecup, just to make things easier, but still hand coding. I've worked with GoLive and seen the source code done with some of the others - what a mess. Now I have to admit I don;t have a fancy dancy site, but that is only cause I spend more time shooting than coding these days, and I'm lazy.
Jack
sydneyruby
29th of February 2008 (Fri), 08:25
Look at Bludomain.com
The sites are very easy to build and have a great look, decent pricing. The only negative thing is the email only cust svc but I can overlook that because I love what they do!
miklav
29th of February 2008 (Fri), 10:35
Well, I guess it could go either way...:)
When I first did mine I made myself a little control panel and everything, so when I need to add a photo, I just login and fill in the blanks.
John
Yeah I also made an upload form, but I got tired adding all the features I need - and then I noticed JAlbum that had all I needed, just except the page look. I even don't need to bother resizing my pics for web :)
scotteisenphotography
29th of February 2008 (Fri), 10:49
photoshop, dreamweaver, flash
PhotosByCynthia
17th of March 2008 (Mon), 16:24
Well, there are a couple that aren't mentioned here that I have used in the past. WebPageMaker. It's WYSIWYG program. And Web Easy Professional. Another WYSIWYG program. Both are available for under $100 and get the job done. They also have capabilities to add more advanced items such as slideshow.
haisai-ojisan
18th of March 2008 (Tue), 03:01
First started with (can't quite remember the name of it) the TextEdit software on Mac OS 7.5. Code was/is a bore so put that down right away. Got back into it with Dreamweaver on OS9 and still now and will never go back to a plain text editor....actually do sometimes use BBEdit.
Dreamweaver, Flash, PS, Illustrator & Painter.
PhotoBanker
19th of March 2008 (Wed), 09:53
Well i use to use a lot of tools, its 2008 now though so you dont really need any. Mostly dreamweaver and photoshop. But today you can get wordpress, blogger and many other content management / blogging platforms and a variety of paid or free templates.
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