average like of the 10d?

[deermatt]

i searched and got 137 pages of the wrong stuff haha.

im about to purchase a 10d, and wanted to know if 10-20k shots is alot?

[daveh]

I like my 10D very much.

[deermatt]

I like my 10D very much.

well thats nice to hear, but not what i asked ..

[daveh]

well thats nice to hear, but not what i asked ..

Look again ;)

[Cadwell]

:lol: If you post a thread with title "average like of the 10D" I suspect you are going to get lots of answers like that ;)


If you are asking about the MTBF of the shutter mechanism, then I'm not sure that Canon have ever issued an official figure for the 10D. There are lots of opinions on it though ;)

I have no idea how many shots I have taken with my 10D. I haven't bothered counting.

[deermatt]

well thats nice to hear, but not what i asked ..

Look again ;)


haha, didnt notice that, got me !

[Andy_T]

Deermatt,

10-20K shots doesn't sound excessive on the 10D.
I think I remember reading in another thread that the shutter is rated for about 50K exposures, so it should have some reserves :wink:

Best regards,
Andy

[defordphoto]

I have 25K on mine. Still kicking like ever. I like this camera so ,uch that I'll probably pay to have a new shutter installed when it pukes.

[deermatt]

wow, so i have heard 50k -250k on the shutter lol, thanks for all the input, i guess ill be buying the 10d with the high actuations cause its cheap lol

[ron chappel]

I've heard a semi official statement that the life is 50000 +

(semi official as in i didn't see the announcement and can't prove the person who told me wasn't lying :lol: )

I have heard solid reports of 60000 and still going strong,etc so 10-20K is certainly OK unless it has some problem.
250K is not right though!-that's what the better pro models can do but definitely not the 10D

[Persian-Rice]

50k-60k on the 10 and 20D's
175k-225k on the 1 series. Which is another reason the 1 series are such great systems.

These are mechanical items, so they eventually break down, sometimes sooner sometimes later.

It also depends on how you treat your equipment, what climate you use it in etc etc.

[Kevin M]

I have 25K on mine. Still kicking like ever. I like this camera so ,uch that I'll probably pay to have a new shutter installed when it pukes.

I agree. I have no idea how many shots are on my 10d - but if and when the shutter dies - my immediate reaction will be to replace the shutter, not the camera.

I would like to own a 1ds or a 1d mkII - but for what I do - I really don't need one.

Kevin
http://www.titanicart.com/

[defordphoto]

10D is rated at 50K. MKII is rated at 250K.

[Cadwell]

10D is rated at 50K. MKII is rated at 250K.

Do you have an official source for the 10D rating? Just curious as I've never seen it published anywhere and I'd like to see it confirmed for my own peace of mind.

[IncompletePete]

I picked up my 1D for £1200 which had roughly 8000 shots on it....bargain! :D

[Kevin M]

10D is rated at 50K. MKII is rated at 250K.

Hi Jim,

I didn't realize the Mk II shutter was rated that high relative to the 10d. At present, the equivalent of 10,000 rolls of film would last me for ever. However, if I were a busy photo journalist, the Mk 11 would be an obvious choice.

Kevin
http://www.titanicart.com/

[PacAce]

10D is rated at 50K. MKII is rated at 250K.

Hi Jim,

I didn't realize the Mk II shutter was rated that high relative to the 10d. At present, the equivalent of 10,000 rolls of film would last me for ever. However, if I were a busy photo journalist, the Mk 11 would be an obvious choice.

Kevin
http://www.titanicart.com/

Actually, if memory serves me correctly, wasn't the 1DmiII rated at 200K? I'm pretty sure that's the figure Chuck Westfall quoted someplace. But still, that's a heck of a lot more than the 10D's 50K actuations! :shock:

[CyberDyneSystems]

Canon rates the MkII @ 200,000 "clicks"

http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eos1dm2/html/menu.html

I've never seen a 10D rating in print from Canon... but the "agreed upon" number seems to be 50,000

[karusel]

Er... I recall statement like '1D MKII has been tested to 200,000 actuations' which probably means that the shutter didn't die at that, it was merely tested to this number... or what?

[Cadwell]

Canon rates the MkII @ 200,000 "clicks"

http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eos1dm2/html/menu.html

I've never seen a 10D rating in print from Canon... but the "agreed upon" number seems to be 50,000

That's something of a problem though, isn't it?

Here's an example. If a MkII's shutter fails after 10,000 actuations then you can presumably go to Canon and claim repair under warranty (assuming the Camera is still in warranty period) because it's failed well under the rated activations.

Because there's no "rated activations" published for the 10D, Canon could claim "normal wear and tear" and "excessive use" and treat it as a non-warranty item.

Does anyone know how Canon reacts to a shutter failing on a 10D with say 25,000 acivations whilst under warranty?

[CyberDyneSystems]

Not 25,000 but mine quit at 18,000 (and change) and it was less tha n a month away from warranty expiration.. they replaced it no questions asked.

I understand that a new shutter on a 10D (out of warranty) is about $150.00 ... not bad when you consider the bodys replacement cost.

[Jon]

Here's an example. If a MkII's shutter fails after 10,000 actuations then you can presumably go to Canon and claim repair under warranty (assuming the Camera is still in warranty period) because it's failed well under the rated activations.

I think you're misunderstanding their published life. It's not a guarantee, it's simply a MTBF (Mean Time Between Failures). The average shutter will achieve that number of actuations. It in no way gives you an additional warranty on the shutter after the standard 1 year on the camera has expired.

[Cadwell]

Here's an example. If a MkII's shutter fails after 10,000 actuations then you can presumably go to Canon and claim repair under warranty (assuming the Camera is still in warranty period) because it's failed well under the rated activations.

I think you're misunderstanding their published life. It's not a guarantee, it's simply a MTBF (Mean Time Between Failures). The average shutter will achieve that number of actuations. It in no way gives you an additional warranty on the shutter after the standard 1 year on the camera has expired.

No, I understand MTBFs very well. I also stated the assumption that the camera was still in it's warranty period. You missed my point which was that the lack of a published MTBF for the 10D gives Canon a potential "exceptional use" get-out to the standard warranty on that camera.

The evidence would seem to suggest that they don't use it, which is good.

[Jon]

Here's an example. If a MkII's shutter fails after 10,000 actuations then you can presumably go to Canon and claim repair under warranty (assuming the Camera is still in warranty period) because it's failed well under the rated activations.

I think you're misunderstanding their published life. It's not a guarantee, it's simply a MTBF (Mean Time Between Failures). The average shutter will achieve that number of actuations. It in no way gives you an additional warranty on the shutter after the standard 1 year on the camera has expired.

No, I understand MTBFs very well. I also stated the assumption that the camera was still in it's warranty period. You missed my point which was that the lack of a published MTBF for the 10D gives Canon a potential "exceptional use" get-out to the standard warranty on that camera.

The evidence would seem to suggest that they don't use it, which is good.

No. If they never published a life-expectancy for a shutter, they can't very well claim that you've exceeded it. If a 10D/20D/DR shutter fails within the first year, it's covered. Or you take it up with your governmental consumer protection agency. "Exceptional use" has to be stated in advance to be permissible.

[Cadwell]

No. If they never published a life-expectancy for a shutter, they can't very well claim that you've exceeded it. If a 10D/20D/DR shutter fails within the first year, it's covered. Or you take it up with your governmental consumer protection agency. "Exceptional use" has to be stated in advance to be permissible.

Perhaps in the US that is true. It isn't in my country.