Panic at the Disco - Glasgow Carling

[Burrelly]

Some images from last nights gig.

C&C welcome as always

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#2
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#3
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#4
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[roman_t]

i pick 2,3 and 6. drummer shots are very tricky for me. he hidden in his set.

[Burrelly]

i pick 2,3 and 6. drummer shots are very tricky for me. he hidden in his set.

Yeah drummer's are never easy to shoot.

They were a fan of red lights to which never helps. For some reason they only allowed us to shoot the first two songs rather than 3.

[johnstoy]

Two songs is hardly enough to get a great variety of captures to choose from... Especially when the lights are constantly changing, and the performers are moving around.

I shoot RAW, and "bracketed" in groups of three exposures, one f stop apart... This gives me a greater chance of capturing satisfactory face and eye, and action shots.

This set has pleasant colors, and your composition and framing is consistently good... It's the little things, like the "mike in the mouth" or the tongue sticking out, or the dark face in the shadows, that takes away from the perfect shots. Too bad they don't let you shoot the entire show.

I'm glad you're helping with your critiques here in this PA forum... The more the merrier... Cheers.

[DwightMcCann]

For some reason they only allowed us to shoot the first two songs rather than 3.

Sometimes "they" only allow 30 seconds of the first song which is when the 'two body' model is very helpful.

I shoot RAW, and "bracketed" in groups of three exposures, one f stop apart.

Now that makes a lot of sense to me!

I like these images but wish you could post larger.

[bacchanal]

Rene is probably going to give you hell about the way those reds are blocking up...;)

I'd say you did pretty well for only having 2 songs. I can't imagine 30 seconds...the way I operate, I'd be screwed.

[johnstoy]

By the way Dave:
It's Dwight's proved and tested method of "bracketing" that I'm referring to... He prefers it, and now so do I... Thanks Dwight... Cheers.

[roman_t]

sorry i dont get what dwight says - "two body model". what that means guys?

[johnstoy]

sorry i dont get what dwight says - "two body model". what that means guys?

Let me take a crack at it, and interpret this for you Roman... Anyone else, please correct me if I'm wrong...

Model = Representation, or sample...

two body = 2 Camera Bodies

During a two song limit scenario, or even during a 30 second limit, two bodies would be preferred.

[Burrelly]

Two songs is hardly enough to get a great variety of captures to choose from... Especially when the lights are constantly changing, and the performers are moving around.

I shoot RAW, and "bracketed" in groups of three exposures, one f stop apart... This gives me a greater chance of capturing satisfactory face and eye, and action shots.

This set has pleasant colors, and your composition and framing is consistently good... It's the little things, like the "mike in the mouth" or the tongue sticking out, or the dark face in the shadows, that takes away from the perfect shots. Too bad they don't let you shoot the entire show.

I'm glad you're helping with your critiques here in this PA forum... The more the merrier... Cheers.

I also shot raw. Usually I can judge the lighting pretty well and get the shots I want.

This was a difficult show to shoot as he never really moved away from the mike at all.

I will always help out as we are all learning its not something that stops.

Sometimes "they" only allow 30 seconds of the first song which is when the 'two body' model is very helpful.



Now that makes a lot of sense to me!

I like these images but wish you could post larger.

Thanks dwight any ones in particular you want to see bigger or just them all?

Dave

[DwightMcCann]

Rene is probably going to give you hell about the way those reds are blocking up...;)

I'd say you did pretty well for only having 2 songs. I can't imagine 30 seconds...the way I operate, I'd be screwed.

Yes, Rene can sniff out red channel clipping in a post a mile away ... er, ah, I mean kilometer! :-)

Yup, 30 seconds isn't long so I now use two 1DMIII's, Av f/2.8, ISO 1250-2000 depending on stage setup, RAW, three brackets at 1-stop, 70-200mm f/2.8L IS on one body and 300mm f/2.8l IS on the other with 24-70mm f/2.8L ready to swap if necessary. You can capture a lot of frames in 30 seconds and get somewhat of a variety if the LD cooperates. Of course, in this scenario it is critical to be ready to start shooting when the talent walks on the stage and the lights come up.

sorry i dont get what dwight says - "two body model". what that means guys?

Yes, Roman, as John pointed out I was referring to having two bodies with different lenses in hand. As one fills its buffer and can't shoot I switch to the other and then back again.

Dave, yes, all of them at least 800 pixels would be nice. :-)

[jewel-x]

i really like your photos, i took some too last night but there's an awful lot of noise in them.

could i ask, how do you get them so flawless ?

anyway, very nicely done :)

[Burrelly]

i really like your photos, i took some too last night but there's an awful lot of noise in them.

could i ask, how do you get them so flawless ?

anyway, very nicely done :)

You took them last night at Panic or another gig?

Dwight will post larger images in future :)

[DwightMcCann]

Dwight will post larger images in future :)

Oh, goody! :-) I shot Don Rickles last night. He's 82, fading a bit physically but mind is still sharp as a tack ... had us all in belly laughs for well over an hour. Not much to see visually but it was like a massage for the the mind.

[jewel-x]

last night, Carling Academy.

[Burrelly]

Oh, goody! :-) I shot Don Rickles last night. He's 82, fading a bit physically but mind is still sharp as a tack ... had us all in belly laughs for well over an hour. Not much to see visually but it was like a massage for the the mind.

Sounds pretty good. I am shooting a Swing Dance tomorrow for charity should be interesting :)

[Burrelly]

last night, Carling Academy.

Ah cool perhaps post some of your images here so we can have a look. What were you shooting with?

Dave

[johnstoy]

Say, Dwight... Don Rickles was a regular act at the resort night club I worked at, (here in the Poconos,) back in the mid 1970's... I must have seen him 5 or 6 times... Looking forward to your set.

[roman_t]

thanks you, john and dwight. i've never seen that kung-foo here.
5d's "built for comfort aint built for speed"(h.wolf song)

[mono55]

i really like your photos, i took some too last night but there's an awful lot of noise in them.

could i ask, how do you get them so flawless ?

anyway, very nicely done :)

Well, of course, Dave was using a couple of nice DSLRs and you, like myself, was making do with a compact and its teeny weeny sensor. And that means in poor lighting conditions accompanied by lots of smoke we have the choice of noisy pics or ones with next to no detail.

Where were you shooting from? We were on the barrier on Jon's side.

[mono55]

I like 2 and 6. It was pretty much impossible for me to see Spencer, never mind get a shot of him.

The red lights were a major pain. I'm sure they had a much better lighting set-up the last time they played at the venue.

[René Damkot]

Some nice images.
I like #2, 3 (straighten a bit maybe), 5 and 6.

On the reds: LR? ;)
Lower color temp, add a bit of green. And/ or use the HSL slider to desaturate the reds a bit. In PS it's even better correctable.

[jewel-x]

Well, of course, Dave was using a couple of nice DSLRs and you, like myself, was making do with a compact and its teeny weeny sensor. And that means in poor lighting conditions accompanied by lots of smoke we have the choice of noisy pics or ones with next to no detail.

Where were you shooting from? We were on the barrier on Jon's side.


I was using a Canon S3 Powershot, mini SLR, it's a pretty damn good camera but I had to put the ISO up quite high in order to get enough light, and I was wondering if there's a better way to shoot in dark conditions.

I was near the front at the beginning but all the annoying little 14 year olds started pushing everyone & I started feeling a bit claustraphobic so I moved back quite a bit.

They're a bit crap but here's a couple.
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i277/chikkadee/IMG_1302.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i277/chikkadee/IMG_1286.jpg

[Burrelly]

I was using a Canon S3 Powershot, mini SLR, it's a pretty damn good camera but I had to put the ISO up quite high in order to get enough light, and I was wondering if there's a better way to shoot in dark conditions.

I was near the front at the beginning but all the annoying little 14 year olds started pushing everyone & I started feeling a bit claustraphobic so I moved back quite a bit.

They're a bit crap but here's a couple.
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i277/chikkadee/IMG_1302.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i277/chikkadee/IMG_1286.jpg

They are a little small to see. Can you make them a bit bigger?

As for getting nice clear shot I was shooting at iso 1600 using a 2.8 aperture lens.

I was also in the pit rather than in the crowd so was able to get different angles.

[Nouks]

Hmmm nice quality but composition seems to be not too amazing. Bit centered sometimes, not too exciting...

[mono55]

I was using a Canon S3 Powershot, mini SLR, it's a pretty damn good camera but I had to put the ISO up quite high in order to get enough light, and I was wondering if there's a better way to shoot in dark conditions.

I was near the front at the beginning but all the annoying little 14 year olds started pushing everyone & I started feeling a bit claustraphobic so I moved back quite a bit.

They're a bit crap but here's a couple.
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i277/chikkadee/IMG_1302.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i277/chikkadee/IMG_1286.jpg

They are kind of tiny, still your framing seems fine. I've no experience of the Canon S-series, so I don't know how it performs at higher ISOs. When I'm shooting from the crowd I generally use a Fuji Finepix F20 which at ISO 800 usually gives acceptable results (although I wasn't happy with Thursday's pics), but only has a 3x zoom.

My daughter was using a Panasonic Lumix FZ7 (12x zoom) at ISO 200 (because you daren't go any higher!) and she posted a few of those at buzznet.com. But as she's been shooting quite a lot of shows recently from the photo pit with a DSLR she wasn't over happy with the results she got either.

Here's one she took of Trace Cyrus of Metro Station...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/monokatt/tracecyrus.jpg

[Burrelly]

My daughter was using a Panasonic Lumix FZ7 (12x zoom) at ISO 200 (because you daren't go any higher!) and she posted a few of those at buzznet.com. But as she's been shooting quite a lot of shows recently from the photo pit with a DSLR she wasn't over happy with the results she got either.

The Image posted was pretty good I managed to get a few of metro station but nothing that great.

What other stuff has she been shooting?


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#2
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#3
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Dave

[mono55]

What other stuff has she been shooting?
Dave

Well, obviously she doesn't get to shoot as often as the pros on here do, but since last autumn she's had passes for...
Paramore, From Autumn To Ashes, Madina Lake, Mindless Self Indulgence, Avenged Sevenfold (twice), the Taste Of Chaos Tour (The Used, Rise Against, Aiden, etc), Spitalfield, MXPX and The Audition.

[Burrelly]

I had passes for paramore but it got canceled :(

[mono55]

I had passes for paramore but it got canceled :(

According to the phone call I got from Ticketweb ( I think?) the show is going to be rescheduled. Although I doubt that New Found Glory will still be supporting and unfortunately they were our main reason for wanting to go in the first place.

[Burrelly]

They are playing again on there own in November.

[mono55]

They are playing again on there own in November.

Yeah, I know, but it's at the Barrowlands and Shiona really not keen on that venue.

[Burrelly]

Yeah, I know, but it's at the Barrowlands and Shiona really not keen on that venue.

It is the best venue in Scotland. You get the best sound at gigs there. The pit is a bit jungle gym like but if you want good sound its a lot better than the Carling.

[mono55]

It is the best venue in Scotland. You get the best sound at gigs there. The pit is a bit jungle gym like but if you want good sound its a lot better than the Carling.

It may well have the best sound, unfortunately having only hearing in one ear (hence my user name), I'm probably not the best judge of that. I think she doesn't like going there because of the lack of crowd control prior to doors and the fact that security don't do much to ensure the folk that have been queuing all day get in before the people who have tacked themselves onto the front only half an hour earlier.

Kat

[londonblue007]

I bet the band hasn't even warmed up by the third song... most of my best shots usually come from the last 3 songs, when the energy has had a chance to build.

[txduggan]

Oh, goody! :-) I shot Don Rickles last night. He's 82, fading a bit physically but mind is still sharp as a tack ... had us all in belly laughs for well over an hour. Not much to see visually but it was like a massage for the the mind.

Not to hijack the thread, but I would literally wet myself when Rickles was on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson.....and the Dean Martin Celebrity Roasts (which I have the full DVD set! WOO!)

Any shots from the gig you'd care to share, Dwight? *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*

Tom D

[DwightMcCann]

Not to hijack the thread, but I would literally wet myself when Rickles was on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson.....and the Dean Martin Celebrity Roasts (which I have the full DVD set! WOO!)

Any shots from the gig you'd care to share, Dwight? *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*

Tom D
OK, here's a couple.

[txduggan]

OK, here's a couple.

I love you man..... :shock:

I really should enable email notification for subscribed threads...

Damn middle-age...

Thanks Dwight!

Tom D