Family Portrait Advice

[Stump]

I got a family portrait shoot coming up. We will be taking the shots outdoors and hopefully not in the sun. But anyways, I'm wondering what the best lens to use will be. I'll be using a tripod and I have a 580EX and 430EX I can use also if need be. I wouldnt mind getting a few shots with some good bokeh going on. I'll be using a Canon 40d. I need all the advice I can get so let it rip. Thanks!

[arrgeebee]

How many people will be in the portrait? That will make all the difference in the lens you need.

[Stump]

How many people will be in the portrait? That will make all the difference in the lens you need.

We want some different shots, but 11 will be the most in a picture at one time. Probably go from that to about 7. I can move back or forward as much as I want too. I own a 50mm f1.4, 28-135mm IS, Sigma 70-300mm, 10-22mm. I know I wont be able to get any bokeh with the 10-22mm but I may try a few shots with it. I can buy a lens if thats what I need to do. 85mm f1.8 or 70-200 f2.8 IS are two lenses I've been seriously considering. I just need a good reason to get that 70-200. :)

[Just Be]

I'd go with the 50 if you can back up and want bokeh.

[Stump]

I guess I should just use the flash on top of the camera firing straight on for fill?

[jra]

I guess I should just use the flash on top of the camera firing straight on for fill?

That would most likely be the best way to go. Also, I would recomend against using a tripod if you can keep your shutter speed half decent. ...it will only slow things down. Also, be careful to use a small enough aperture to get everyone in focus in the group pics. Good luck :)

[samnz]

Eleven people - work fast! The moment one of them gets slightly annoyed with having their picture taken, it starts to 'contaminate' the rest of them.

You really do need a WA on your crop. You might find using a lens which causes you to retreat (50/1.4), will encourage the smartasses to start acting up...and before you know it, they're all talking to each other and not listening to a word you're saying!

At least a WA zoom will keep you closer to the group and in control without shouting. (EFS 17-55, EF 17-40L, Tamron 17-50)

Do the largest group last. That way, you have a better chance of everyone staying around for the "BIG PHOTO".

Individuals: 50/1.4 - 70-200
Couples: 17-40L or similar
Candid: 70-200

[Stump]

How good will the flash coverage be using a 10-22mm since I'll be so close to everyone?

[PhotosGuy]

How good will the flash coverage be using a 10-22mm since I'll be so close to everyone? I don't expect that the flash will cover it, even with an adapter. It might be OK bounced off a reflector.
I guess I should just use the flash on top of the camera firing straight on for fill? That would work.
I'd try a variation of bouncing one flash from near the camera & kicking the other one on partial power in from about 45 degrees like this example.
Simple "every-day-emergency" location lighting (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=66358)

Or backlight them with the sun & fill with both flashs at 45 degrees.