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NightEye
6th of November 2004 (Sat), 19:55
I about to purchase my first SLR camera. I have the choice of buying the DRebel with the kit lens and get $300 off with Canon's rebate (I'm buying 2 lenses with it to get the triple rebate), or I can get a 10D for $900 now that the 20D is out, but without that $300 rebate. For my first SLR camera, will it make any difference for me which one I get? I sitll do not know how far I'm gonna go with photography, but this is the next step.

Any comments welcome.

Persian-Rice
6th of November 2004 (Sat), 20:00
Depends on what you want to spend. Whichever camera you get, you will still need a lens(es).

The 10D is a better camera. If you can get the 300D for an extremely low price, I really can't argue against it.

NightEye
6th of November 2004 (Sat), 20:03
I already plan on getting a 75-300mm IS and a 50mm f1.4 to take advantage of the Canon rebate. If I get the DRebel I also get the 18-55mm, which I really like, but with a 10D, I'll have to go shopping for a wide-medium zoom.

Headcase650
6th of November 2004 (Sat), 22:10
The rebels main limitation is frame rate and its lack of a dependable AI Servo focus. So if you have plans of shooting sports or racing go with the 10D if not the rebel should be fine.

stv737
7th of November 2004 (Sun), 01:14
If I had to choose between the 10d and the 300d I would go with the 10d. I didn't really do my homework before i purchased my 300D. Dont get me wrong I love my 300D but when I bought it I did not know all the limitations it has while shooting sports. Had I known I would have got the 10D since the price was not that much more.

forrest64
7th of November 2004 (Sun), 05:26
10D

Hellashot
7th of November 2004 (Sun), 08:07
Put it this way: the image quality of the 2 cameras are identical. So why pay more?

Persian-Rice
7th of November 2004 (Sun), 10:21
Put it this way: the image quality of the 2 cameras are identical. So why pay more?

That is a very narrow way of looking at it. The 20D has almost identical quality to these camera's, why spend the extra? heh

I believe if you buy 3 items on that rebate thing, the rebel comes to around $450, someone told me this, not sure if it is true.

sheldon
7th of November 2004 (Sun), 11:21
I have the Rebel, and while I think its a great camera, I find that shooting sports is a real challenge. Personally, I would recommend getting either the 10D or 20D. After a few months, you wont think about the 300 dollars you might have saved with the rebate. If you purchase a 10D, even though you dont save any money on the camera, it still counts torward double and triple savings on the lenses. I plan on giving my Rebel to my son whos 13, and getting a 20D for myself. This way I'll have a shooting partner......:)

forrest64
7th of November 2004 (Sun), 11:53
Put it this way: the image quality of the 2 cameras are identical. So why pay more?


Because you get more with the 10D, including a metal body and many features that allow me to take shots I can't get or get as easily with the DRebel.

Mark

NightEye
7th of November 2004 (Sun), 12:49
That is a very narrow way of looking at it. The 20D has almost identical quality to these camera's, why spend the extra? heh

I believe if you buy 3 items on that rebate thing, the rebel comes to around $450, someone told me this, not sure if it is true.

Yes, if you buy 3 things you get $300 off on the Digital Rebel - but nothing off the 10D.

I'll be doing a lot of aviation photography - not sure if I'll get into sports, but it is a possibility.

NightEye
7th of November 2004 (Sun), 12:53
Also, if I do get the 10D I will want a lens that covers approzimatley the same range as the 18-55mm kit lens does - and from what I understand, the kit lens does not work on the 10D. I was thinking of either the Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM or the Canon EF 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 USM (they seem very light and compact).

commando
7th of November 2004 (Sun), 13:02
I have the Rebel, and while I think its a great camera, I find that shooting sports is a real challenge.

How so?

dsze
7th of November 2004 (Sun), 15:32
I have owned both. I bought the 300D and sold it 6mos. later to buy the 10D, which I realized I should have done in the first place. I wish that someone would have made me pick-up both cameras...There really is no comparison. The 300D is a great camera for the price, but with the 10D so close in price now... there is no question which one I'd recommend. IMage quality should (in theory) be identical...but the 10D is a much more solid camera. I was disappointed in several minor ways with my 300D (though I still enjoyed it very much), but I've yet to be disappointed by the 10D in any regard.

-metal body
-better dial/control position
-Selectable metering
-AI Servo Focus
-Custom Funtions
-FEC Control

The DReb is a great camera for the price and you should be able to produce outstanding images with it. ....but I know that I should have gone with the 10D instead of the rebel and saved myself a little in the long run.

-daniel

Andy_T
7th of November 2004 (Sun), 15:43
What DSZE said ... go to a photo shop and take both of them in your hand.

Then decide which you like better.

Best regards,
Andy

NightEye
7th of November 2004 (Sun), 15:47
I've been reading articles about the 20D for the past hour or so and now I'm starting to lean towards the 20D (I like the idea of the instant-on feature and the improved noise levels in higher ISOs). What have I gotten myself into? Choices, choices, and money, money. If I get the 20D I'll be spending an extra $500 with no rebates. But as some of you say - it may be worth. I can see myself owning the 20D for at least 5 years, but if I get a DRebel I'll prolly be constantly wanting to get the better features of a 20D.

What to do, what to do.

Thanks for everyones input!

commando
7th of November 2004 (Sun), 15:52
If I was in the states, i'd have gotten the 20D. It's too expensive here in NZ though. To me, the instant on would be possibly the best new feature. It should last years too.

davidwegs
7th of November 2004 (Sun), 15:54
I've been reading articles about the 20D for the past hour or so and now I'm starting to lean towards the 20D (I like the idea of the instant-on feature and the improved noise levels in higher ISOs). What have I gotten myself into? Choices, choices, and money, money. If I get the 20D I'll be spending an extra $500 with no rebates. But as some of you say - it may be worth. I can see myself owning the 20D for at least 5 years, but if I get a DRebel I'll prolly be constantly wanting to get the better features of a 20D.

What to do, what to do.

Thanks for everyones input!

If you want a good camera thats not badly priced and can do just about everything, the 10d.

If you want a camera that will be that much better for fast on and shooting with a larger file size and ability to print higher ISO shots, the 20d.

Unless that Dreb comes at a lowww price (sub 500) I would look for a used 10d or if you can spring for it 20d.

DocFrankenstein
7th of November 2004 (Sun), 16:38
If I had to choose between the 10d and the 300d I would go with the 10d. I didn't really do my homework before i purchased my 300D. Dont get me wrong I love my 300D but when I bought it I did not know all the limitations it has while shooting sports. Had I known I would have got the 10D since the price was not that much more.
What he said.