Lastolite’s HiLite Background

[Photodawg1]

Anyone use this? Or know anything about it? Recommendations?
http://shutterbug.com/equipmentreviews/lighting_equipment/1107lastolite/index.html

[tetrode]

Anyone use this? Or know anything about it? Recommendations?
http://shutterbug.com/equipmentreviews/lighting_equipment/1107lastolite/index.html

Here's a nifty little 4-1/2 minute video showing it in use:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ltpFFf59SGI

There are also several informative videos on the lastolite site (www.lastolite.com (http://www.lastolite.com)).

Dave F.

[snedigity]

Any idea what they cost?

[Photodawg1]

500 or 600+ depending on the size. look pretty cool though, but doesn't look like anyone on the planet uses them.

[tetrode]

500 or 600+ depending on the size. look pretty cool though, but doesn't look like anyone on the planet uses them.

How about Scott Kelby:

http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1052

Dave F.

[fi20100]

Wouldn't it be a pretty useful as a light bank as well... great for simulating window light :)

[Julian Plant]

Um, I have one and it gets my vote for sheer ease and convenience, does what it says on the tin.

Brilliant in a tight space, you don't need any separation from the background,
great portability, quick to set-up and a riot to get back in the bag lol.

I have found that using one strobe inserted from above works best for me.
Disclaimer: I am not a lighting expert :o)

pregnancy pic from first time use, I draped a net curtain over it to simulate a window:
http://www.pbase.com/kurvitasch/image/96178564/large

[Borderfox]

I use one for al my location work an it works a treat. So easy to go up and either two elinchrom dlite 4's or 2 x 580exII and one 430ex works in all conditions

[fi20100]

Um, I have one and it gets my vote for sheer ease and convenience, does what it says on the tin.

Brilliant in a tight space, you don't need any separation from the background,
great portability, quick to set-up and a riot to get back in the bag lol.

I have found that using one strobe inserted from above works best for me.
Disclaimer: I am not a lighting expert :o)

pregnancy pic from first time use, I draped a net curtain over it to simulate a window:
http://www.pbase.com/kurvitasch/image/96178564/large

Your pic where you simulated a window looks great!

[Borderfox]

Here is what mine looks like when its all up, very compact and I havent found a house/room that it wont fit in. The bonus is you can back people right up to the background and you wont get a shadow because of the strob inside.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/Borderfox/HiLite.jpg

Some example shots
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/Borderfox/24-70.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/Borderfox/No7.jpg

[zacker]

wow.... those things look like alot of fun! wish I had real strobes to use it with, dont think a couple off cam external flashes would light it enough...lol

[Photodawg1]

Holy cow Borderfox...I am adding new item to next buy list! Which one do you have the larger one?

[Borderfox]

I go between strobes (400w Elinchrom D-lites) and 2x 580exII and 1x 430ex to light it and both methods work out very well. I have the 6x7 foot version, very compact and easy to carry around.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/Borderfox/BernardKenny.jpg

[Photodawg1]

Nice Photo! Okay I am adding this to my next purchase. Maybe I will have it by next week. Thanks!

[mattograph]

I go between strobes (400w Elinchrom D-lites) and 2x 580exII and 1x 430ex to light it and both methods work out very well. I have the 6x7 foot version, very compact and easy to carry around.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/Borderfox/BernardKenny.jpg

Great photo!

Are you using 2 D-Lites to light it, or just one?

[sdipirro]

I recently got the 5x7 version, along with the train. I haven't started shooting with it yet but love the portrait lighting you have here. I'll be using a Dlite-4 inside the Hilite and a Dlite-4 in a Photoflex octobox as the main light in a setup that looks a lot like yours. What settings did you use in your Dlite configuration for background versus main light? I could play around with it, but I'd love to have a good starting point! Thanks.

[Borderfox]

That was using a 430ex in the hilite and one 580exII on camera with a stofen and +1 fec

[Borderfox]

I used 4 on the dlite inside the hilite and 5 on the main one, this was using a large softbox that comes with the dlite kit. Very happy with the Hilite and the effect is excellent and all my clients love the shots from it. I used Guy Gowans line and wrinke removal method on the portrait also.

[mattograph]

That was using a 430ex in the hilite and one 580exII on camera with a stofen and +1 fec

So you were able to light the whole shebang with 1 430EX?

[Borderfox]

Yeah for that job in particular it was no problem, flashes worked on Canon wireless system with the 430ex on a tripod. I have another 580exII so in theory I could have put that on the far side but I didnt in that case.

[mattograph]

Yeah for that job in particular it was no problem, flashes worked on Canon wireless system with the 430ex on a tripod. I have another 580exII so in theory I could have put that on the far side but I didnt in that case.

Can you share the photo, or a similar one? Just hope to know what the effect looks like with a single speedlight before I pull the trigger.....

[Borderfox]

Just to clarify the shot in this thread of the guy on page one is shot using a 430ex to light the hilite and one 580exII on camera with a Stofen on it. Looking at your gear list you have both flashguns to do the same effect.

[Borderfox]

This one
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/Borderfox/BernardKenny.jpg

[mattograph]

I know I sound obtuse, but I just can't believe it!!!! Amazing. Looks like mine will be on order tomorrow. Where did you buy yours?

[Borderfox]

I ordered mine from Warehouse Express in the UK, it was about €100 cheaper than Ireland.

[NatsRoses]

I just bought one (6x7) from Amazon Warehouse for $380. Can't wait to play with it!! :)

[mattograph]

I just bought one (6x7) from Amazon Warehouse for $380. Can't wait to play with it!! :)

UK or US or Elsewhere?

[NatsRoses]

UK or US or Elsewhere?

US, from Amazon.com. They had one left at that price, but I would keep checking back often. I was really happy to get it so cheap, free shipping too!:lol:

[mattograph]

Thank you!

[Borderfox]

Here is the setup, one 580ex in the hilite and another on camera. I left the 430ex on the tripod to brighten things up.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/Borderfox/BNI_22.jpg

[mattograph]

Thats very nice. My new macbook has slowed me down a little in the purchase department, but this is on my list. I am going to light it with two vivitar 385s, which I think will be plenty of light.

Fox, is yours the 5X7 or 6x7?

[Borderfox]

MIne is the 6x7 foot version and its plenty big for up to 4 or 5 people groups. The two vivitars will be fine with that, I sometimes use a reflector to remove a bit of shadow if needed.

[Borderfox]

Here it is turned landscape style and using two elinchrom dlite 4's. One in the highlight and you can see the placement of the other, as you can see fairly crowded in the room but I havent found anywhere I cant fit it in :)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/Borderfox/IMG_1168.jpg

[mattograph]

Here it is turned landscape style and using two elinchrom dlite 4's. One in the highlight and you can see the placement of the other, as you can see fairly crowded in the room but I havent found anywhere I cant fit it in :)



http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/Borderfox/IMG_1168.jpg

Uh oh. I see a monolight in there. Is that at d2 or d4?

[Borderfox]

D4 inside set to 4 and the main light set to 5. All fits in three neat bags and transports really well. I use the flash heads for portraits and thats even more compact. I will take a picture of the bag it comes in and post it up. I have to do some head shots of myself tonight :)

[mattograph]

D4 inside set to 4 and the main light set to 5. All fits in three neat bags and transports really well. I use the flash heads for portraits and thats even more compact. I will take a picture of the bag it comes in and post it up. I have to do some head shots of myself tonight :)

Nicely done. I should just have you sell me your whole kit!

[Photodawg1]

Very nice setup. Definitely on my wish list.

I want to see your headshots. If I come over to Ireland next year I may have to look you up. Your horses are EXQUISITE!

[mattograph]

I want to see your headshots..... Your horses are EXQUISITE!

Is it just me, or does this sound like a line from a movie...........:)

[/spam]

[Double Negative]

This thing looks pretty sweet, I gotta say. Very portable, no need to mess around with white seamless, works in tight areas... A bit pricey for what it is, but considering time saved - not bad! Should be easy enough to slip in some white tile board on the ground for a slightly reflective effect.

Anyone tried gelling the flash output yet?

[mattograph]

They do in the shutterbug review. Very nice chromakey effect:

http://www.shutterbug.net/equipmentreviews/lighting_equipment/1107lastolite/index.html

[dFreezy]

Sweet, yet another thing on my wish list that I can't afford :) Thanks for sharing the photos of your setup Borderfox!!

[inthedeck]

This is like the coolest thing since sliced bread...hehe. I don't know much about 'lighting' but this thing makes it look 'easy as pie.'

[zacker]

so is the back of this thing black too? it is pretty slick...

[m3rdpwr]

I would love something like this, but can't justify the cost of it versus use...

-Mario

[Borderfox]

I use it about 5 times a week so it is really worth it for my use. The back of it is black, you can also fit somebody inside the hilite for different effects (havent tried this yet) Many thanks Photodawg :)

I set it up to take a head shot of myself so here goes :)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/Borderfox/6X7C0705.jpg

Two flash head/ one on camera and one in the hilte on the right
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/Borderfox/6X7C0707.jpg

And this is the result,I used another 430ex also on this shot but tbh I could have gotten away without it. I used Guy Gowans actions to take some of my lines and wrinkles out (really handy by the way)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/Borderfox/6X7C0703copy.jpg

[mattograph]

Well done!

I am really nervous about lighting this with one speedlight, but you are very convincing.

Is the black side dark / consistent enough to be used as a backdrop?

[Borderfox]

The black side is very consistent, I could use a reflector to fill in any shadows from whichever side I have less light on. You will be fine using one speedlight, I have an event using it on Friday night. About 30 people to shoot and re-touch so should be good to go.

[mattograph]

The black side is very consistent, I could use a reflector to fill in any shadows from whichever side I have less light on. You will be fine using one speedlight, I have an event using it on Friday night. About 30 people to shoot and re-touch so should be good to go.

Okay, so here is the million dollar question.

I am definitely going to purchase another flash.

I have two 580 exs -- when I pick up the lastolite, would you suggest another 580, or a D4?

[Borderfox]

Depends on what you use it for. If I am doing head shots I use the flash heads and if I am doing full length shots I use the d-lites. With the flash heads I don't need any power so its as portable as I am. If I didnt have the dlites I would get another 580exII and sell the 430ex, that probably answers your question. :)

[mattograph]

Hmmmm.......Okay, I'm gonna pick up the 3rd speedlight -- and if I cant make that sucker light up like that, Im coming to ireland and you're buying! :)

[Rudi]

Why an expensive 580EX II just to use off-camera? Save yourself some money and buy something like the Sunpak 383 or similar ($87 at B&H)...

[mattograph]

Why an expensive 580EX II just to use off-camera? Save yourself some money and buy something like the Sunpak 383 or similar ($87 at B&H)...

I don't know about the sunpak, but I bought a vivitar 285hv, and was extremely put off with the quality. Plus, I have the st-e2 that I play with too.

Thats what brings me back to the D4. I can't think of any situation where having 1 studio light hurts me, if I can back it up with two 580s (and the 430 ex on ETTL).

[Rudi]

That's funny - I went from two 580 EX's to only one and two extra Sunpak 383's! :) (I have studio strobes also, but for portability I love my Sunpaks).

[mattograph]

That's funny - I went from two 580 EX's to only one and two extra Sunpak 383's! :) (I have studio strobes also, but for portability I love my Sunpaks).

Do the Sunpaks have PC connectors on board?

[Borderfox]

I picked up my 580exII's off Kea Photo off ebay for half the Irish price

[Borderfox]

In its bag
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/Borderfox/6X7C0694.jpg

[Rudi]

Do the Sunpaks have PC connectors on board?

They come with a PC sync cord. :)

[Rudi]

I picked up my 580exII's off Kea Photo off ebay for half the Irish price

What's the Irish price? Is it scary-high?? :)

[mattograph]

They come with a PC sync cord. :)

Is it to a 3.5mm jack, compatible with my skyports?

[Borderfox]

€600 :evil: I couldn't believe it :(

I have a job on using the hilite tonight, if I get a chance I will upload some of the shots from it.

What's the Irish price? Is it scary-high?? :)

[mattograph]

€600 :evil: I couldn't believe it :(

I have a job on using the hilite tonight, if I get a chance I will upload some of the shots from it.

Look forward to it.

Have you used it as a softbox yet?

[Rudi]

€600 :evil: I couldn't believe it :(

Whoa! That's just rude!!! :(

[Rudi]

Is it to a 3.5mm jack, compatible with my skyports?

Nope, it goes to PC male, but you can get cables to fit your Skyports (I use Skyports as well), or splice your own cable if you know how to handle a soldering iron. Best cable source that I know of is www.flashzebra.com.

[mattograph]

Nope, it goes to PC male, but you can get cables to fit your Skyports (I use Skyports as well), or splice your own cable if you know how to handle a soldering iron. Best cable source that I know of is www.flashzebra.com (http://www.flashzebra.com).

Oh, yes. I am a loyal customer of Lons.

I have these two vivitars sitting on my desk. I may pull on out this weekend and play with it a tad. I just watched Bert Stephani's latest video, and he gets pretty good results with his.........

[stefeb]

Just got mine today. So far so good, but I have a rather stupid question...

I'm using an AB800 inside the Hilite.

Here's the question - Do I use the AB800 with the 7" reflector in place, or place it inside the Hilite without the reflector?

Thanks.

[m3rdpwr]

Just got mine today. So far so good, but I have a rather stupid question...

I'm using an AB800 inside the Hilite.

Here's the question - Do I use the AB800 with the 7" reflector in place, or place it inside the Hilite without the reflector?

Thanks.

The video usage on lastolite.com shows them using the reflector on their strobe...

http://www.lastolite.com/hilite-backgrounds.php#

-Mario

[fjgindy]

In the first video below (Lasolite Highlight Backgound) he says to measure the background two stops above the main light. This is where I get confused. Where or what distance do you measure the background from? From the subject..from the camera...right up against the background?

http://www.lastolite.com/hilite-backgrounds.php#

If you have a meter reading of f22 at the background, that would mean a main light reading of f11. The camera would be set to f11 then ..correct? When I check my highlight blinks on cam, is it normal in high key setting to see the background blinking?

[stefeb]

The video usage on lastolite.com shows them using the reflector on their strobe...

http://www.lastolite.com/hilite-backgrounds.php#

-Mario

Thank you. Did some more experimenting and the AB800 with the reflector in place works fine. I'm using about 1/2 power.

[stefeb]

In the first video below (Lasolite Highlight Backgound) he says to measure the background two stops above the main light. This is where I get confused. Where or what distance do you measure the background from? From the subject..from the camera...right up against the background?

http://www.lastolite.com/hilite-backgrounds.php#

If you have a meter reading of f22 at the background, that would mean a main light reading of f11. The camera would be set to f11 then ..correct? When I check my highlight blinks on cam, is it normal in high key setting to see the background blinking?

I'm no expert since I just got the Hilite yesterday, but I think once you set your exposure, for the Hilite and the main light/s, then meter the subject with the meter pointing in the camera's direction, with all the strobes firing. It's that reading by which you'd set the camera's aperture.

If I'm incorrect, I hope someone will correct me. I don't want to give you bad advice.

[sdipirro]

I finally got around to uploading the pictures I took with the Hilite. I have the 5x7 version with train. I used 2 Dlite-4's, one for the Hilite and the other for the main light with Photoflex medium octobox. I used the suggested 4 setting on the Dlite inside the Hilite and 5 setting on the main light, and I shot at f11 and 1/125. I tweaked the exposure and contrast some in Lightroom but not a lot of pp. And, yes, my son was exhausted and not in the mood to pose for these!

[mattograph]

I finally got around to uploading the pictures I took with the Hilite. I have the 5x7 version with train. I used 2 Dlite-4's, one for the Hilite and the other for the main light with Photoflex medium octobox. I used the suggested 4 setting on the Dlite inside the Hilite and 5 setting on the main light, and I shot at f11 and 1/125. I tweaked the exposure and contrast some in Lightroom but not a lot of pp. And, yes, my son was exhausted and not in the mood to pose for these!

Very nice.

Have you decided yet how you are gonna tackle the train?

[Borderfox]

The way lastolite suggest is to open in PS and select levels and choose the white point picker and select the dark area of the train and then use the history brush to paint back in the person. Its usually easy enough to select the person from the background and paint them back in quite quickly

[sdipirro]

No, I haven't decided what to do about the train yet. The only thing I have to serve as a third light is my 580EX, and I thought about trying that as a "floor light" to see how that looked. I also thought about matching the color to the hilite background in Photoshop. I'm sure others have tried these and other techniques, but I haven't seen any discussions on it.

[Borderfox]

I can show you sdipirro if you don't mind me editing your image?

[mattograph]

*$(#$O$#($*$#)!!!!!

Elements doesn't have the history brush!!!!!

[m3rdpwr]

*$(#$O$#($*$#)!!!!!

Elements doesn't have the history brush!!!!!

I just found out about this feature last week watching a video at www.lastolite.com (http://www.lastolite.com).

Had I known, it could have saved me many hours of time...

-Mario

[sdipirro]

I can show you sdipirro if you don't mind me editing your image?

I don't mind, but it's probably not going to help me. I don't have CS. I only have Lightroom (and an older version of Photoshop).

[Borderfox]

Before
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/Borderfox/311582107_IMG_1176lrSmall.jpg

After
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/Borderfox/311582107_IMG_1176lrSmallcopy.jpg

[Borderfox]

Have a look through the old PS and you might find the history brush?

[sdipirro]

Well, after seeing the difference, it's worth looking for...or another reason to consider getting CS. Thanks.

[Borderfox]

That took around 2 or 3 minutes to do.

[mattograph]

The trigger has been pulled, and my 6 x 7 is on its way.

I just saw the 7 x 8 is out, but oddly enough, the only place you can get it in the US is Amazon! They are also the only ones with the bottlecaps -- I picked up the black one.

I will be putting them to use this weekend!

[Photodawg1]

The trigger has been pulled, and my 6 x 7 is on its way.

I just saw the 7 x 8 is out, but oddly enough, the only place you can get it in the US is Amazon! They are also the only ones with the bottlecaps -- I picked up the black one.

I will be putting them to use this weekend!

What's a bottlecap?

[mattograph]

It's the seal on the top of a bottle! j/k, or course....

They are the backdrops that attach directly to the hilite. Turns the hilite into a backdrop support. They offer them in a variety of colors.

So, if you need to switch from high key to low key, you can do it very quick.

[blatallic]

hmm can you post a pic of a link of this...Im trying to Imagine it lol..

Also I can't find the 7x8 on Amazon...

[blatallic]

Nvrmind I just found the 7x8 and wow 1k for it, think I'll have to pass....lol

[blatallic]

Just bit the bullet and bout the 6x7.....Should be at my house next Tuesday!!!!

[mattograph]

Hopefully, this thread will blossom into a sharing thread.

Actually, I am most excited about using this on interiors, like a huge softbox.

[sdipirro]

By the way, when you take it out of its pouch to open it up, STAND BACK. As it says somewhere on the Lastolite website, it "aggressively" opens to its full size. I'd like to watch people try to fold up the new 7x8 version their first time! I had a few choice words to say as I tried to fold up the 5x7 the first time!

[m3rdpwr]

By the way, when you take it out of its pouch to open it up, STAND BACK. As it says somewhere on the Lastolite website, it "aggressively" opens to its full size. I'd like to watch people try to fold up the new 7x8 version their first time! I had a few choice words to say as I tried to fold up the 5x7 the first time!

I had a problem folding my 42x74 impact reflector.

I found that wedging one end into my couch where the seat and back met was the easiest way to have the other end stay still while I twisted my end...

-Mario

[Double Negative]

Those 5-in-1 reflectors are more than enough fun to twist up again... Can't imagine trying that with a 6x7' box. Jeez... I suppose you get the hang of it eventually.

[blatallic]

Hopefully no one will get knocked out lol....Im excited about getting this...

Just ordered some Alien Bees to inhance my studio MUAAHAHAHAHA

[fi20100]

Those 5-in-1 reflectors are more than enough fun to twist up again... Can't imagine trying that with a 6x7' box. Jeez... I suppose you get the hang of it eventually.

LOL, I got the large 5-in-1 round reflector right in the face the first time I opened it... and I tried to be careful! a 6x7' box would probably mean knock out!

[mattograph]

It has arrived..... Along with its two new friends, the alienbees......

More to follow!

[paiintballa182]

gah lucky you!

[mattograph]

I won't be able to shoot it until the weekend.....

Still trying to figure out how to hide it from the wife?!?!?!?

[m3rdpwr]

I won't be able to shoot it until the weekend.....

Still trying to figure out how to hide it from the wife?!?!?!?


Hehe, I'm not married, just a girlfriend.
That means buy everything now... :lol:

-Mario

[blatallic]

I won't be able to shoot it until the weekend.....

Still trying to figure out how to hide it from the wife?!?!?!?
:lol:

under the couch!!! lol

[Brian05]

Thinking about getting the 7x5 background, just wondering about the lighting to light it... I use a Stellar 300 as main light in an umbrella box. I have an old portaflash light, would that be enough to light it, should I get another one so I have one both sides?
Or one or two(?) Stellar tungsten 500w that are about £50 each?
Unless you think my 580 and 420 flash will be enough.

[mattograph]

Thinking about getting the 7x5 background, just wondering about the lighting to light it... I use a Stellar 300 as main light in an umbrella box. I have an old portaflash light, would that be enough to light it, should I get another one so I have one both sides?
Or one or two(?) Stellar tungsten 500w that are about £50 each?
Unless you think my 580 and 420 flash will be enough.

You will be pleasantly surprised how little light it take. you can do it with pocket strobes.

[m3rdpwr]

You will be pleasantly surprised how little light it take. you can do it with pocket strobes.

Question, I know that the material is white in the front, but is the back fabric on the inside white, silver, or?

Just have some gear's spinning in my head...

-Mario

[mattograph]

Question, I know that the material is white in the front, but is the back fabric on the inside white, silver, or?

Just have some gear's spinning in my head...

-Mario

Its a satiny white, at least thats how I would describe it. Like an opaque shoot through umbrella material look.

[m3rdpwr]

Its a satiny white, at least thats how I would describe it. Like an opaque shoot through umbrella material look.

So the front and back materials are the same color except the back being more opaque?

-Mario

[blatallic]

Got a call that the box came in!!! Can't wait to get home!!!

Im going to use a AB800 to light this bad boy up....

Got some gels too wo add color...How do you guys think it well turn out using Gels for color!!!

[mattograph]

Should look hot, with a nice chromakey feel.

[blatallic]

Well since I live alone its hard to play with my new toys...Maybe I need to get a blown up doll LOL

[mattograph]

Well since I live alone its hard to play with my new toys...Maybe I need to get a blown up doll LOL


You don't need to live alone to have a blow up doll!

[slivr]

Blatallic - you can always buy one of those cheap mannequin heads as your model. They're kinda creepy to have sitting around though. :)

[Rudi]

Blatallic - you can always buy one of those cheap mannequin heads as your model. They're kinda creepy to have sitting around though. :)

... while a blow-up doll is just part of the interior decoration, I guess... :D

[blatallic]

lol so true hahaha

Here's my setup guys...First session is this Saturday to practice...
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b378/DILLERPAZ/P6251562.jpg

If you see a orange tint its because I have a orange gel on the background light...I was expecting a nice or orange tint on the background but it came out white all the time like pictured below
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b378/DILLERPAZ/P6251563.jpg

How do I get a nice gel color on the background...The setting on tht light was at 1/2 power

[blatallic]

First time using a gel for color by the way

[inthedeck]

That's cool. Thanks for those pics...I've been waiting all farking day! :lol:

As for the orange tint...try putting something there, anything, and take the shot as you would normally. See if that makes a difference?

[m3rdpwr]

lol so true hahaha

Here's my setup guys...First session is this Saturday to practice...

If you see a orange tint its because I have a orange gel on the background light...I was expecting a nice or orange tint on the background but it came out white all the time like pictured below

How do I get a nice gel color on the background...The setting on tht light was at 1/2 power

Oooooo, preeeeetty...

-Me

[mattograph]

You may have to double or triple the density to get the effect you are looking for. Looks like your bees are blowing right though the color.

[blatallic]

Ya Im going to lower the power to see if it helps...Im loving this setup!!!

[blatallic]

Here's my first actual session...First time shooting with a studio setup that I did completely on my own...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b378/DILLERPAZ/P6281626.jpg

[Borderfox]

Very nice

[Mick_I]

Super!

[blatallic]

Thanks guys...Took over 200 pics with both of my cameras....

[mattograph]

I like that a lot.

My first shot with the lastolite, using the black bottlecap (why I spent all that money to shoot on a black background.......)

http://mattograph.smugmug.com/photos/324396866_tN4Wk-L.jpg

[blatallic]

Sorry for my noobness, but what is a black bottlecap???

[m3rdpwr]

Sorry for my noobness, but what is a black bottlecap???

A bottlecap for the Lastolite HiLite is a cover and train all in one to go over the Hilite.

I believe they have black, green, blue and grey...

http://www.lastolite.com/hilite-bottletop-covers.php

-Mario

[m3rdpwr]

I go between strobes (400w Elinchrom D-lites) and 2x 580exII and 1x 430ex to light it and both methods work out very well. I have the 6x7 foot version, very compact and easy to carry around.

Borderfox (Or anyone having this and Speelite's),
If I buy this, I was looking to use Speedlite's to light this up.

I would be using 1 or 2 580EX's to light the 6x7 up.

Have you tested this out and know what F-Stops you were able to pull over-all?

Thanks!

-Mario

[carrigman]

I got the HiLite today and tried it with my Elinchrom D-Lite 4's. I was astonished at the quality of the results. Really clean white backgound and the subject perfectly exposed with no flare. The pics have that professional look even though I am new to studio lighting and I am still getting used to the Elinchroms. I am very, very pleased with the purchase.

The downside is getting the HiLite back into the bag. I could not manage it despite several attempts and lots of swearing. There is a YouTube vid showing how it is done and it seems so easy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS-N9eJzgxg

Don't believe it!

Otherwise, a fantastic piece of kit.

Regards,

John

[Borderfox]

Borderfox (Or anyone having this and Speelite's),
If I buy this, I was looking to use Speedlite's to light this up.

I would be using 1 or 2 580EX's to light the 6x7 up.

Have you tested this out and know what F-Stops you were able to pull over-all?

Thanks!

-Mario

Sorry Mario,
I don't know what you mean, I stick the flashes in it and use fec on the master to vary the power, if that doesn't work then I switch to manual and adjust as necessary. Hope this helps

The bottlecap covers look very handy, any prices on these?

[Borderfox]

Carrigman the key to getting it in the bag is to hold the diagonal end against your stomach and then pull the opposite end towards you and twist.

[stefeb]

Where did you purchase the bottletop?

I like that a lot.

My first shot with the lastolite, using the black bottlecap (why I spent all that money to shoot on a black background.......)

http://mattograph.smugmug.com/photos/324396866_tN4Wk-L.jpg

[mattograph]

Where did you purchase the bottletop?

Amazon, believe or not. Shipped directly from them too, not a third party.

[inthedeck]

C'mon....PLEASE post more pictures...PLEASE????

[m3rdpwr]

I couldn't contain myself and ordered the 6x7 along with the trail Wednesday.

I should have it today as long as UPS comes through.

Now to find an unwilling subject!

-Mario

[stefeb]

Amazon, believe or not. Shipped directly from them too, not a third party.

Thank you. Just placed an order for the gray bottletop.

[mattograph]

Thank you. Just placed an order for the gray bottletop.

Enjoy.

When you put it on, you need to lock it down with the corner posts. It won't just "hang", so to speak. The best thing that I have found is to set up the hi-lite, then lay the backdrop flat, put one corner of the top on, and pinch it into place with the corner brace. Do that at all for corners, the go back around again and straighten.

If you find a better way, I would enjoy hearing it. Have fun!

[stefeb]

Enjoy.

When you put it on, you need to lock it down with the corner posts. It won't just "hang", so to speak. The best thing that I have found is to set up the hi-lite, then lay the backdrop flat, put one corner of the top on, and pinch it into place with the corner brace. Do that at all for corners, the go back around again and straighten.

If you find a better way, I would enjoy hearing it. Have fun!

Thanks for the tip. I'll be sure to report back.

Question: Did your Hi Lite have any wrinkles on the white surface, or was is completely smooth?

I've tried to take a picture of mine, but you can't see the wrinkles well at all.

Mine has wrinkles (almost like pinch marks) along the left hand side, right about the middle of the HiLite, and on the right down towards the corner. The surface of the HiLite is not completely smooth, and I'm wondering if this is just the way it is, or if I may have gotten a defective panel.

The wrinkles don't show up in any photos, so I suppose it's really a non-issue, but I was just curious.

[blatallic]

Can't wait to see more pics!!

[mattograph]

Thanks for the tip. I'll be sure to report back.

Question: Did your Hi Lite have any wrinkles on the white surface, or was is completely smooth?

I've tried to take a picture of mine, but you can't see the wrinkles well at all.

Mine has wrinkles (almost like pinch marks) along the left hand side, right about the middle of the HiLite, and on the right down towards the corner. The surface of the HiLite is not completely smooth, and I'm wondering if this is just the way it is, or if I may have gotten a defective panel.

The wrinkles don't show up in any photos, so I suppose it's really a non-issue, but I was just curious.

Mine had some wrinkles, but nothing noticable in photos. I have a few to process this weekend to post. I would say that the wrinkles were no worse than what you would see in a softbox.

[stefeb]

Mine had some wrinkles, but nothing noticable in photos. I have a few to process this weekend to post. I would say that the wrinkles were no worse than what you would see in a softbox.

Hmmm...on closer inspection mine are more like fabric pulls/pinches. But, they're not visible in a photograph, so no harm done.

[gibbyni]

Sorry Mario,
I don't know what you mean, I stick the flashes in it and use fec on the master to vary the power, if that doesn't work then I switch to manual and adjust as necessary. Hope this helps

Just a few quick question on your flash setup, how do you trigger everything, is the 580 that you use for your main light on your hot shoe. is there any problems with communication with the flashes? have you tried the ST-E2?

The reason im asking is i already have the 6X7 and a few cheap lights but one has just packed in. I have a 430ex and was looking to get a 580 anyway but just trying to work out what else i need. im thinking i might need 2 580's

[mattograph]

For what its worth, I went with two AB800s -- one loaded in the background and one as the key light. The recycle times are worth it, at least for me, because I shoot like a machine gunner.

The AB400s would be plenty, as I only run my background light at half power.

I point this out mostly since you will drop as much on two 580s as you would on two AB800s.

[gibbyni]

For what its worth, I went with two AB800s -- one loaded in the background and one as the key light. The recycle times are worth it, at least for me, because I shoot like a machine gunner.

The AB400s would be plenty, as I only run my background light at half power.

I point this out mostly since you will drop as much on two 580s as you would on two AB800s.

I have done a few shoots with the highlite and strobe lights in peoples houses but the pain in the backside bit was bringing and setting up the lights. At least with the 580's it would reduce the amount I have to bring around and try to fit into my car (not a big one)

[mattograph]

I have done a few shoots with the highlite and strobe lights in peoples houses but the pain in the backside bit was bringing and setting up the lights. At least with the 580's it would reduce the amount I have to bring around and try to fit into my car (not a big one)


Theres no doubt. One of the reason I bought 'bees was that they are relative small, but made of lexan, so they are also reasonably tough. I dont think you will be disappointed by the 580s, though, and they are more flexible -- after all, I own a pair as well!

[mattograph]

Here is my first high key shot:

1) AB800 stand mounted at half power camera right. This is loaded into the background, but I left the dome on. That accounts for the slightly grayer tone in the right of the photo. Next time, I will remove the dome so the light fires bare bulb.

2) AB800 in shoot thru umbrella camera left at about 25 degrees down angle.

3) Lastolite tri-grip white reflector camera right.

I am VERY pleased -- plus the client was BLOWN away.

http://mattograph.smugmug.com/photos/330279253_3GNex-L.jpg

[jsteel77]

^^^^^^^^

That looks great!!!!!
I think this is definitely going to be my next big purchase.

[mattograph]

I am extremely pleased....... And it even folded on the first try.

[m3rdpwr]

I am extremely pleased....... And it even folded on the first try.

That's encouraging!

Mine showed up last night!
My girl bought some new clothes to try it out.

Unfortunately, we had an emergency problem at work today and had to go in.

Another time I guess...

-Mario

[mattograph]

That's encouraging!

Mine showed up last night!
My girl bought some new clothes to try it out.

Unfortunately, we had an emergency problem at work today and had to go in.

Another time I guess...

-Mario

Can't wait to see the results!!!!

[m3rdpwr]

Can't wait to see the results!!!!

I can't wait either.

After that whole emergency work thing this weekend I ran out of time and my girl was too tired.

All those new clothes gone to waste for a few weeks now.

I have a new 6x7 HiLite sitting in a corner calling to me.

I haven't even opened it to try and close it... :rolleyes:

-Mario

[mattograph]

I can't wait either.

After that whole emergency work thing this weekend I ran out of time and my girl was too tired.

All those new clothes gone to waste for a few weeks now.

I have a new 6x7 HiLite sitting in a corner calling to me.

I haven't even opened it to try and close it... :rolleyes:

-Mario

You could always put on the clothes yourself and do some self portrait work!:)

[DigitalSpecialist]

Wow, I too need to add one to my buy list! Thank you all for showing me the light, pun intended!

[dbvirago]

Couldn't find the bottle top for the lastolite hilite. Can someone post a link? Does it work with the 5x7?

Never mind. Found it. But at $134, not sure it's worth it. It makes sense since I have the hilite that this would work well with it, but I can get a savage stand and roll of paper for $109. Any opinions?

[mattograph]

For what its worth -- I went from high key to this in about 5 minutes.

Shooting a baby, it was definitely worth it.......

http://www.mattograph.com/photos/331211180_9Qihe-L.jpg