i feel raw!!! please help!

[thorbisher]

some raw questions ...

1>If I shoot in RAW is it a must to post process?

2>What would I need to do to properly edit an average picture?(what steps in what order)

3>What program do you use?

4>Is there a way to do many images at a time if they are similar?

Thanks for helping!

[Epix]

I'd say at the least you'd need white balance adjustments and sharpening.

[thorbisher]

thanks epix...i updated the question...can you elaborate on it more....

[andrew748]

in my limited experience all raw images need converting to jpeg or tiff

the benefits i find are that i can adjust the white balance and sharpening if i didn't take a great pic to begin with.

[PixelMagic]

A RAW file is not an image file; its simply a data dump of what the sensor sees at the time the shutter is pressed. So you must convert a RAW file to a rendered image format like TIFF, JPEG, PSD, etc.

I use mostly Adobe Camera Raw or Lightroom to convert RAW files and they are both laid out in logical order. In ACR start with the White Balance Tool in the toolbar, then move on to the other tools down the right side of the application. The same process works for Lightroom although its laid out differently but the process is the same.

[andrew748]

your camera should have come with a canon cd that contains a few programs

dpp (digital photo professional) is the one you want for this

i would just have a play, it's pretty straight forward.

this link may help also

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=466333&highlight=raw+guide

[HyperYagami]

2>What would I need to do to properly edit an average picture?(what steps in what order)

"average" is way too generic. bad pictures are bad for a variety of reasons.

[thorbisher]

I have aperture 1.5 and pshop cs.. It looks like aperture will be my best option since cs does not support the files from canon xti and I would have to convert them to use ACR....thoughts?

[capture photons]

did you try dpp i find it way easier to use than cs3 at least color wise.

[andrew748]

I have aperture 1.5 and pshop cs.. It looks like aperture will be my best option since cs does not support the files from canon xti and I would have to convert them to use ACR....thoughts?

do you have the canon software disc?

what i do.

Cf card in card reader and download images via ZoomBrowser Ex

a quick scout through that to delete the bad stuff.

then i open the images in DPP and tinker if needed.

this can be adjusting the sharpness, exposure, white balance etc
as i use a crop body camera i alway end up cropping a keeper so it becomes more web friendly dimensions.

when i have finished tinkering, i then export the file as a tiff if i'm going to ps it or a jpeg if i'm awesome and it's good to go ( i have yet to be awesome).:rolleyes:

dpp and zoom browser are on the canon disc

[Tixeon]

i feel raw!!! please help![/B]

It could be the blue tights (avatar) being - too tight....:lol:

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

[number six]

A RAW file is not an image file; its simply a data dump of what the sensor sees at the time the shutter is pressed. So you must convert a RAW file to a rendered image format like TIFF, JPEG, PSD, etc.

Well, really it is an image file. Not a finished one, but still an image file. I've read that RAW formats are variations of TIFF - in any case, RAW images are compressed so they're not just data dumps.

Lessee: an uncompressed data dump from an 8 megapixel image (12 bits) would be 8 X 3 X 1.5 megabytes. 36 MB, looks like.

My RAWs from my 30D usually run 7 to 8 MB.

-js

[number six]

BTW, a suggestion to the OP: get one of the moderators to change your name. You're gonna start getting a lot of spam...

-js

[tim]

1>If I shoot in RAW is it a must to post process?
No, but why bother shooting RAW if you're not going to? The JPGs out of the camera will be better than RAWs out of the camera as the cameras can do sharpening, contrast, etc. So effectively, yes.

2>What would I need to do to properly edit an average picture?(what steps in what order)
Exposure (must be first), brightness, blacks/shadows, highlight recovery, color temp, contrast. Color temp must be done after brightness/exposure.

3>What program do you use?
Bridge CS3

4>Is there a way to do many images at a time if they are similar?
In bridge select all the similar photos, right click, open in ACR. Hit select all, then work as if there's only one image.

Re CS/Xti, use the RAW to DNG converter, or just use DPP.

[thorbisher]

thanks!!!!..I have tried to contact them about changing my username but no reply!

[thorbisher]

who is a mod i can contact?

[tim]

Send CyberDyneSystems a PM.

[PixelMagic]

Actually if a RAW file were an image format there would be no need to embed a JPEG so that you could have a way of previewing the contents of the file. You would be able to view it without first having to run it through a converter; and it would also be a standardized format that could be read by an operating system.

Bruce Fraser says in Real World Adobe Camera Raw with Adobe Photoshop: (Notice that he calls it a "file" and not an "image.")

What Is a Digital Raw File?

Fundamentally, a digital raw file is a record of the raw sensor data from the camera, accompanied by some camera-generated metadata (literally, data about data). I'll discuss metadata in great detail in Chapter 8 (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/ch08.html#ch08), Mastering Metadata (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/ch08.html#ch08), but for now, all you need to know is that the camera metadata supplies information about the way the image was captured, including ISO setting, shutter speed and aperture value, white balance setting, and so on.
Different camera vendors may encode the raw data in different ways, apply various compression strategies, and in some cases even apply encryption, so it's important to realize that "digital camera raw" isn't a single file format. Rather, it's a catch-all term that encompasses Canon .CRW and CR2, Minolta .MRW, Nikon .NEF, Olympus .ORF, and all the other raw formats on the ever-growing list that's readable by Adobe Camera Raw. But all the various flavors of raw files share the same basic properties and offer the same basic advantages. To understand these, you need to know a little something about how digital cameras work.



Well, really it is an image file. Not a finished one, but still an image file. I've read that RAW formats are variations of TIFF - in any case, RAW images are compressed so they're not just data dumps.

Lessee: an uncompressed data dump from an 8 megapixel image (12 bits) would be 8 X 3 X 1.5 megabytes. 36 MB, looks like.

My RAWs from my 30D usually run 7 to 8 MB.

-js

[thorbisher]

the adobe DNG converter is not recognizing my Rebel XTI files....so I am guessing this is not supported?

[rooeey]

Ok i am fairly new to this but have recently got it under control thanks to many of the people who have just replied to your post...
I use canon DPP latest version...Works fine and its free...
I first adjust exposure then white balance contrast colour saturation sharpenning..
And you can apply what is called a recipe for PP {see DPP help file recipe} to apply to a batch selected....

[Phil Light]

the adobe DNG converter is not recognizing my Rebel XTI files....so I am guessing this is not supported?

Make sure you have the latest version of Adobe's DNG converter.

[tim]

the adobe DNG converter is not recognizing my Rebel XTI files....so I am guessing this is not supported?

Make sure you have the latest version of Adobe's DNG converter.

What Phil said - that's always the problem.