Amateur UK boxing

[DarrenL]

I decided to give boxing a try I fancied something different.

Honest feedback please, the noise is appalling I know so please try and look past that. I've not run these through any noise removal tools as I just would like feedback on the image composition etc. and not the noise.

Here we go

#1
http://www.dlactionimages.co.uk/forumimages/potn6.jpg

#2
http://www.dlactionimages.co.uk/forumimages/potn1.jpg

#3
http://www.dlactionimages.co.uk/forumimages/potn2.jpg

#4 -
http://www.dlactionimages.co.uk/forumimages/potn3.jpg

#5
http://www.dlactionimages.co.uk/forumimages/potn4.jpg

#6
http://www.dlactionimages.co.uk/forumimages/potn5.jpg

There are a few more on my PS archive @ http://pa.photoshelter.com/gallery-show?G_ID=G0000pp5vvfICRCA&P_ID=&start=0&pagtotal=70 if you fancy having a 'real' look :)

Many thanks
Darren

[SnapLocally.com]

Darren, you're going to have to address the noise issue if you want to progress as a photographer, and no, noise-reduction software isn't the be-all-end-all solution to the problem.

Your shots are a tad overexposed, leading me to believe that you could've gotten away with 1/320 @ iso 1600. That would've solved two problems. Also, you might want to try a different lens; perhaps a prime; the 50mm f/1.8 comes to mind. Also, the white balance seems to be a little off, though that could be due to mixed lighting sources.

Composition- you're using unusual crops; too square on some and too long on others. I think you'd benifit from some consistency between the two.

[DarrenL]

Thanks very much for the comments,

The noise was a small part of my doing and partly because of the 4 spot lights that lit the room. They turned the celling lighs back on again at the half time interval and left them on. When I looked at images afterwards I realised I might have been able to drop the ISO and SS but hindsight is a wonderful thing. I know it's something I've got to address asap though.

I agree on the crops through.

How do you find the 'action' in the images?

Darren

[KIPAX]

Darren, you're going to have to address the noise issue if you want to progress as a photographer

He wanted to be a lumberjack really... Oh...........



Good effort darren. Not keen on #5 but for composition I like the rest

[SnapLocally.com]

You're welcome.

The action you've captured is fine for what it is- amateur boxing. One of the biggest differences between am and pro is obviously the the headgear, which prevents dramatic shots of the spray flying off the fighters' heads and conceals the contortioning of the face when when a punch is landed. That said, you did a fine job considering what you've been given to work with.

I often work with lighting which could best be described with an unpleasant four-letter word or two, but I digress. Feel free to have a look at some of my recent work, and feel free to pm me any questions of advice you may have.

www.snaplocally.com

-Jason

[Roy Webber]

What lens and settings were you using?

My first honest thought was unfortunately the noise

[DarrenL]

He wanted to be a lumberjack really... Oh...........



Good effort darren. Not keen on #5 but for composition I like the rest

Thanks Kipax, I was not sure on #5 either, to be honest it didn't work as well as I'd hoped but you have to try sometimes, nothing gained nothing lst.

You're welcome.

The action you've captured is fine for what it is- amateur boxing. One of the biggest differences between am and pro is obviously the the headgear, which prevents dramatic shots of the spray flying off the fighters' heads and conceals the contortioning of the face when when a punch is landed. That said, you did a fine job considering what you've been given to work with.

I often work with lighting which could best be described with an unpleasant four-letter word or two, but I digress. Feel free to have a look at some of my recent work, and feel free to pm me any questions of advice you may have.

www.snaplocally.com (http://www.snaplocally.com)

-Jason
Thanks Jason

What lens and settings were you using?

My first honest thought was unfortunately the noise
Roy, I was using either a 70-200 2.8 L or a 20-35 2.8 L.

Darren

[stan1336]

I took the noise out of one of them and it doesn't look too bad.

[DarrenL]

I took the noise out of one of them and it doesn't look too bad.

Thanks Stan, I'd be very interested to hear how you dealt with the noise.

Darren

[Brand_X]

someone need to tell them to put up their guard.

[ironbelle]

That's alot of blood considering this is amateur boxing and the fighters are wearing headgear. I shoot boxing/MMA and the amateur fights I shot, there was no bloodshet. How close were you to the ring? You'll want to shoot through the ropes as much as possible so that the ropes do not distract from the subjects(the fighters).

[SnapLocally.com]

I shoot boxing/MMA and the amateur fights I shot, there was no bloodshet.

They weren't doing it right.

[DarrenL]

That's alot of blood considering this is amateur boxing and the fighters are wearing headgear. I shoot boxing/MMA and the amateur fights I shot, there was no bloodshet. How close were you to the ring? You'll want to shoot through the ropes as much as possible so that the ropes do not distract from the subjects(the fighters).

Thanks, some bouts were worse than others. No one battered an eye with the amount of blood, I've got nothing to compare it against as this was my first time. Al the ref did was wipe down his face and then continue again.

I was moving around a fair bit to try and get a few different angles but the room was quite small so I was either standing on a chair with the 70-200 or sitting next to the ring with the 20-35.

Darren

[jdderbys]

Headgear is designed only to prevent cuts. Nose damage happens in about 50% of amateur fights (although i only bled in 1 of my 3).

Providing the nose isnt broken the ref is instructed to wipe away the blood and allow it to continue

[ProActionPictures]

The action is interesting but you must capture it a little better. The noise and exposure have been addresses. It seems you are struggling to find proper settings for your lens in a limited light, fast action event.
Also at amateur events of this type facilities and lighting made it difficult but not impossible. You really will need to push your equipment. The low ceiling also makes your job challenging. Some of the angles show to much of a distracting ceiling.

Keep working on it.

Russ

[DwightMcCann]

I heard you are about to shoot another event. I don't think there's any more advice to give. Every venue is so different, Pro's and amateurs are very different, and when the lighting changes everything else changes, too. Since you next event may have TV cameras there may be better lighting for some bouts but it is hard to know what will happen. As with all sports photography, experience is about the only good teacher. Good luck.

[gmen]

I heard you are about to shoot another event. I don't think there's any more advice to give. Every venue is so different, Pro's and amateurs are very different, and when the lighting changes everything else changes, too. Since you next event may have TV cameras there may be better lighting for some bouts but it is hard to know what will happen. As with all sports photography, experience is about the only good teacher. Good luck.Wise words from Mr McCann as always :)

Good luck with the next shoot Darren... if you need any advice, don't hesitate to drop me a line. I've encounted a far few different boxing venues in my time *lol*

---- Gavin

[DwightMcCann]

Wise words from Mr McCann as always :)

Good luck with the next shoot Darren... if you need any advice, don't hesitate to drop me a line. I've encounted a far few different boxing venues in my time *lol*

---- Gavin

Right! Did I mention that I've ever only shot at one venue with the best lighting possible? Hmmm, well, I'll mention it now. :-)

[gmen]

Right! Did I mention that I've ever only shot at one venue with the best lighting possible? Hmmm, well, I'll mention it now. :-):lol: That did cross my mind... but I kept it quiet.

Here... I get to deal with all kinds of lighting :lol: However, it has to be said that the TV stuff is pretty consistent. If Darren's shooting a televised event, I could suggest some settings and I'd be very surprised if they were far off.

---- Gavin