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drisley
18th of November 2004 (Thu), 14:48
I've heard about quite a few problems with the 20D battery grip so I think I may not buy it right now. Also, it is quite expensive, and I kind of like the stealth of the 20D the size it is now.
Well, anyway, I find the shoulder strap is really starting to get to me :twisted:
Can the E1 hand strap only be used when you have the grip attached?

defordphoto
18th of November 2004 (Thu), 17:31
It cannot be used without the grip.

drisley
18th of November 2004 (Thu), 17:53
Yeah, thought so. Thanks :(
That seems so backwards.
Once you have a grip, the hand strap is not even useful when used vertically. It would make way more sense to have the strap when you don't have the grip.

pturton
19th of November 2004 (Fri), 09:23
If you make an attachment from a piece of scrap aluminium you can easily connect the E1 hand strap to the tripod socket of your 10D or 20D without the grip. My hands are average size and this works for me.

http://www.iaw.com/~pturton/dpr/e1_attachment.jpg

Paul
http://www.iaw.com/~pturton/

CyberDyneSystems
19th of November 2004 (Fri), 11:43
Great Idea Paul! :wink:

drisley
19th of November 2004 (Fri), 22:16
Yes, I like that. You should have it patended.

pturton
20th of November 2004 (Sat), 09:08
Thanks for the kudos, but I doubt that my idea is original. I vaguely remember seeing a hand strap that fastened this way - I think it was for a Pro-1.

If you have a nylon camera strap from an old SLR you can easily make a E1 hand strap clone for a DSLR using a couple scraps of aluminium and a piece of leather. After seeing how simple the E1 strap is, I used the neck strap from a Minoltra SLR to make a hand strap for my 10D. Using a camera without the hand strap now seems awkward.

Paul

Jack W.
20th of November 2004 (Sat), 09:20
Hi all.
I use the Hakuba KGP-02
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=194968&is=REG
Works great.

dsze
20th of November 2004 (Sat), 11:58
I use a wrist strap on my 10D, that just prevents it from falling all they way to the ground should it slip out of my hands. I use it mostly when walking about on a sight-seeing trip or on vacation or walking through the city, etc. It is very usable (I think) in the hor or vert. shooting position. If I don't want it on, it just has a little clip that detaches it from the camera altogether...so the strap can remain on my wrist, but not connected to the camera...then I can quickly pick the camera back up and plug back into the wrist strap. Ahh...here it is:

http://www.optechusa.com/product/detail/?PRODUCT_ID=6&PRODUCT_SUB_ID=&CATEGORY_ID=4

Its the cam-strap QD and I think its mostly intended for P&S's, but is definitely strong enough for my 10D/grip and 70-200... I've tested it! :)

It just makes me feel a little safer when walking around or on the boat with my camera in hand and not wanting to where the neck strap!

-daniel

drisley
20th of November 2004 (Sat), 19:24
Wow, these are excellent ideas!
Jack, the Hakuba looks kewl, and is very cheap.
I think that may be ordering one shortly. THANKS SO MUCH!
Does the attachment at the bottom allow a tripod to still be attached? Or must you remove the strap?

Dsze, I think the wrist strap is also a great idea. If the Hakuba isnt' what I need, that may be the way to go.

dsze
20th of November 2004 (Sat), 19:27
I was actually looking for something like the Hakuba, but couldn't find one locally....so I got this wrist strap and have been pretty happy with it. I like how easy it is to disconnect from the camera and re-connect when I want it.

-daniel

defordphoto
20th of November 2004 (Sat), 19:30
I was actually looking for something like the Hakuba, but couldn't find one locally....so I got this wrist strap and have been pretty happy with it. I like how easy it is to disconnect from the camera and re-connect when I want it.

-daniel

The E1, however, assists in holding the camera while shooting, not just dangling the camera off your wrist like a P&S. Two different products.

That Hakuba is the answer and an almost exact duplicate of the E1 for non grip owners.

drisley
20th of November 2004 (Sat), 19:42
Ooooh!
Check out this version of the Hakuba (http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29967&item=3853546 610&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW), with wrist support!
B&H sell them cheaper than this guy. Too bad shipping to Canada is more than the product itself! :shock:

defordphoto
20th of November 2004 (Sat), 20:07
Hmmm...That looks cool, but man that's be a killer in the summer. Sweat city for sure. Still, I kinda like the idea. Wish I could try one.

Jack W.
20th of November 2004 (Sat), 20:46
Drisley, the Hakuba I posted does let you attach a tripod.

defordphoto
20th of November 2004 (Sat), 20:48
It'd be too wobbly I fear. Best to just simply remove the bottom attachment and then mount to tripod.

dsze
20th of November 2004 (Sat), 21:00
Jim, I understand that they are two completely different products. I don't let my 10D just dangle from my wrist, but I do feel a little bit safer knowing its straped to my wrist sometimes. When I don't need it, it unclips in a second. The hand/wrist support might be nice, but like you said, I'd like to try one first.

-daniel

drisley
20th of November 2004 (Sat), 21:20
I guess if the wrist support gets too hot, you dont have to use it. Just close the wrist support, and let it dangle beside your wrist.
Jack, does the attachment block the battery compartment on the 10D?

defordphoto
20th of November 2004 (Sat), 21:32
Jim, I understand that they are two completely different products. I don't let my 10D just dangle from my wrist, but I do feel a little bit safer knowing its straped to my wrist sometimes. When I don't need it, it unclips in a second. The hand/wrist support might be nice, but like you said, I'd like to try one first.

-daniel

Oh good! I was picturing you walking around with the camera dangling like a P&S tourist. It was not pretty. Thanks for wiping that vision from my mind...

Jack W.
21st of November 2004 (Sun), 06:24
Dris, yes, it does block the battery door a bit. Has to be loosened a bit so it can be turned out of the way; doesn't have to be totally removed though.
Also, this strap doesn't secure to your hand or wrist. I have it adjusted so it sort of keeps the camera snug in my hand, but I can still use my fingers to reach the buttons on th camera. I've used it on my G3, and now on my 20D with no problems, but you do have to pay attention to it.

Meerkat17
21st of November 2004 (Sun), 12:41
WOW :shock:

Hakuba Hand Grip Camera Strap KGP-01

That is some grip wonder if it will work also with the battery grip on the 20D? Any ideas.

This appeals to me as I once had two guys threaten me at knife point shortly after getting my EOS 1000F (think it was called a Rebel in the US) back in the mid 80's. Lucky for me they were also being followed by undercover police and were arrested.

However, its an incident that unnerved me and I've never forgotten and never likely too...now I think twice about going anywhere on my own.

Cheers
David