This DSLR thing is driving me INSANE!

[Toogy]

Ok, a little over 2 months ago I decided to sell my G3 and step up to the DSLR world.
I got a used 10D and a Sigma 18-125 lens.
1 week later I buy the 50mm Mark II
1 month later I buy the 70-200 F4L
6 weeks later I am selling the Sigma and buy a Tamron 28-75
Right now I am seriously contemplating selling the 10D and putting the money towards a 20D.
My friend just got a 20D and some of the features are SO nice, like being able to shoot at higher ISO's with way less noise. The camera is SO much faster, especially image preview!
Oh and I have also had thoughts about selling my 70-200F4 that I just got to get the 70-200 2.8L IS.

Does this ever end? Am I totally insane???????

God help me!

[defordphoto]

Does this ever end? Am I totally insane???????

God help me!

It's never ends and you're totally insane. Welcome to our world.

[jinderv]

We all are insane...

It CAN end at a price....

[CyberDyneSystems]

Keep your 10D and focus on glass for now. Wait till you OUTGROW the 10D before upgrading...

If you do that.. then by the time you upgrade, either the 20D will be cheap used.. or you can get the next gen or two after the 20D.

[defordphoto]

CDS and I always do this "good cop" — "bad cop" thing. It's kinda fun.

[defordphoto]

Oh and I have also had thoughts about selling my 70-200F4 that I just got to get the 70-200 2.8L IS.


That one would not be a smart move. Unless you need that extra stop—which comes at a very high price—stick with the f/4. BTW: If you upgraded to the 20D, you could get that extra stop back by just shooting at a higher ISO. ;)

[CyberDyneSystems]

CDS and I always do this "good cop" — "bad cop" thing. It's kinda fun.

Heheheh .. no FAIR!

I want to play "The Devil" this time! :cry:


Go on.... buy more stuff.. you know you wnat to... :twisted: :twisted: :lol:

[defordphoto]

I like doing the "send me your money and I'll spend it for you" thing. That's always a hoot.

[HKFEVER]

How about me:
I started with Nikonmat, then
Nikon F5.......
Nikon D70 + lens....
Mamiya 645, Mamiya 645 Pro, Mamiya AFD........
Canon 1D Mark II, EOS 1V, Canon III-1f,
50mm F/1.4 USM
16-35mm, F/2.8L USM
24-70mm, F/2.8L USM
70-200mm, F/2.8L IS USM
1.4X II
and a lot of lens
also a lot of speed light
Looking for Fisheye. :shock:

Now planning trips to K2 to take photos far away in no man's land. :wink: but tall my wift that I am away to somewhere else!!

[Persian-Rice]

Did I hear 1DmkII?

[drisley]

My friend just got a 20D and some of the features are SO nice, like being able to shoot at higher ISO's with way less noise. The camera is SO much faster, especially image preview!
I feel your pain. The 20D does have some amazing features, and can be blazingly fast compared to the 10D/300D.
However, as far as noise is concerned there really isn't as much difference as all they hype may have you believe. I would say there is a visible improvement at ISO1600 and ISO3200, but below that, the difference is not really noticable. Plus, there are so many great noise reduction programs out there it's not really that big a deal, atleast to me.
I still look at some of my ISO800 pictures from my old 300D, like this one (http://www.mts.net/~lftbrain/iso1600crop2.jpg), and am very impressed.

[CyberDyneSystems]

I agree with Persian Rice.

The ony real solution for Toogy's problem is a 1D MkII... at leat untill the 1Ds MkII finally hits the shelves.

But seriously,..

You'll want at the very least;
85mm f/1.2L
135mm f/2L

...and perhaps a 200mm f/1.8L for starters....

And this is assuming you aren't shooting wildlife.. in which case of course you would NEED the 500mm f/4L IS


Once your set with the above.. then maybe look at the "MkIIs"

:wink:

[robertwgross]

CDS and I always do this "good cop" ? "bad cop" thing. It's kinda fun.

Who is Starsky and who is Hutch?

---Bob Gross---

[Persian-Rice]

I agree with Persian Rice.

The ony real solution for Toogy's problem is a 1D MkII... at leat untill the 1Ds MkII finally hits the shelves.

But seriously,..

You'll want at the very least;
85mm f/1.2L
135mm f/2L

...and perhaps a 200mm f/1.8L for starters....

And this is assuming you aren't shooting wildlife.. in which case of course you would NEED the 500mm f/4L IS


Once your set with the above.. then maybe look at the "MkIIs"

:wink:

And when he gets all that stuff, he lives pretty close to me, next thing you know I might show up in the middle of the night and *eherm* borrow his stuff :D

Seriously though, ya I have the same problem.

Oh Toogy, might as well answer your question here. Ya at the one at Sparta. I was invloved in about 6-7 events there over the past few years, it's my favortie Dragway, never liked Cayuga.

Sorry to go ff topic.

[DocFrankenstein]

Ok, a little over 2 months ago I decided to sell my G3 and step up to the DSLR world.
I got a used 10D and a Sigma 18-125 lens.
1 week later I buy the 50mm Mark II
1 month later I buy the 70-200 F4L
6 weeks later I am selling the Sigma and buy a Tamron 28-75
Right now I am seriously contemplating selling the 10D and putting the money towards a 20D.
My friend just got a 20D and some of the features are SO nice, like being able to shoot at higher ISO's with way less noise. The camera is SO much faster, especially image preview!
Oh and I have also had thoughts about selling my 70-200F4 that I just got to get the 70-200 2.8L IS.

Does this ever end? Am I totally insane???????

God help me!
I don't have your problem anymore. I ran out of money :D

But you can start concentrating on the pictures you take now... that's an idea :wink:

[Nic]

I am one of the ultimate examples of typical DSLR-insanity.

[pcasciola]

Wow, Toogy, looks you are on the same death spiral that I am. In the last two months I got very similar stuff.

Then I set up my wish list at B&H: Currently contains 10-22mm EF-S, 17-35mm Tamron, 70-200 f/2.8L IS, Tokina 17mm, 85mm f/1.8, 135 f/2L

Then, I started thinking how much better off I'd be with a 300mm f/2.8L, and I figure I better get my hands on a 200mm f/1.8 before there are no good ones left, so that is now one of my saved ebay searches. I actually bid on a flawless 200mm f/1.8, but thankfully someone outbid my meager $2500 bid on that one.

I guess we are all here because we are L-choholics, but instead of talking each other out of L-glass, we encourage it!!!! :lol:

[theflyingkiwi]

you know it is posts like this that don't make ask questions in regards to what lens I should replace my 90-300 with :)

[Olegis]

God help me!

God help us all - we are all like this !
Once you set the B&H URL as your browser homepage - you can't escape it anymore :twisted:

[chris.bailey]

Oh and I have also had thoughts about selling my 70-200F4 that I just got to get the 70-200 2.8L IS.

Does this ever end? Am I totally insane???????

God help me!

Toogy, you still have some sanity otherwise you would be trying to justify to yourself a pressing need to have a 70-200f4 AND a 2.8. They are, after all, very different lenses that suit different situations :lol:

[MarkH]

you know it is posts like this that don't make ask questions in regards to what lens I should replace my 90-300 with :)

Maybe you are afraid to ask because you know that the best lens is the 70-200 f2.8L IS and you need the 1.4x teleconverter as well to give you the extra reach. I know that is what I am currently saving for!

Mind you the Sigma 120-300 f2.8 EX is tempting, add the 1.4x teleconverter and voila - 420mm @ f4. I'll have to wait till after I get the 70-200 though, I need the weather sealing for the dusty rallies.

Of course for dusty rallies I also need a weather sealed body, the 1D MkII would be ideal for this.

Then there are other weather sealed lenses like the 24-70 f2.8L and the 17-40 f4L, these would nicely cover the wide angles.

Must stop, I'm starting to drool.

[IncompletePete]

I started with an EOS 50 and the 75-300 along with the Tamron 28-80, I soon discovered a 400 f5.6 Sigma lens, then saw a 1N second hand (This is where the addiction started). Fell in love with the 1 series, bought some more lenses and then once my student loan arrived I wiped that out, along with my overdraft on a 1D with a 70-200 f2.8 L IS with a 1.4 TC.

Now, here I am, awaiting the arrival of an inheritance cheque and I'm weighing up getting a second hand 400mm f2.8 L or a new 300mm f2.8 L IS along with a 1D MkII!!!!

[Pekka]

We can set up a board of big brothers (and sisters (Marie)) who will judge your photos monthly and then decide if you need better gear or not. You get a permission to buy or a notice to keep shooting with current gear. :twisted:

Too bad this system would quickly give all the lousiest photographers the best cameras and the masters would use G1 :) :) :)

[Hellashot]

Toggy:

What don't you like about the Sigma 18-125? It might be the one I am considering buying to stop using the EF-S 17-55mm

[JZaun]

I suggest getting a seperate credit card and call it "Just for Photographic Equipment Card" When you reach its limit you quit buying until you pay it down a bit :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

JZ

Or you could just buy one ea. of everything Canon makes and be done with it once and for all,.............. this year .. :D

JZ

[Toogy]

Toggy:

What don't you like about the Sigma 18-125? It might be the one I am considering buying to stop using the EF-S 17-55mm

Well at 18mm it seemed really soft and had really bad vignetting. Other than that it wasn't terrible. I just really wanted a constant aperture zoom lens.

[tacos3]

It's a disease....a sick, sick disease. Pass me the crack pipe please.....

[mikesd]

Whatever you do; DO NOT RIGHT CLICK ON B&Hs HOME PAGE AND CLICK ADD TO FAVORITES. Also as much as I have learned and love this place be forewarned, HANG OUT HERE AND YOU 'WILL' SPEND LARGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY. Thanks everyone for all of the great help and the smaller bank accounts!

[IncompletePete]

It makes me laugh when you Americans complain about prices! If I was in US I'd save a good $1800 on a my next purchase!

[mikesd]

Agree with you Pete, we are very fortunate price wise, but the problem is not the price, its the addiction of having the best one can afford, or not afford, whatever the case might be.

[IncompletePete]

I wish people would stop saying to buyt he best you can afford....I could buy a 400mm f2.8 L IS amd a 1D MkII but I shouldn't.....grrr......!

[mr.photoguy]

Do what makes you happy.. Even if it might cost you a little bit..

Remember most humans only live once.

[mikesd]

Your putting up the good fight Pete, not giving in to the addiction is tough.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Yeah...

But it's that "single" L lens that maks Pete incomplete....

:lol:

[IncompletePete]

Nope...being complete wouldbe owning ALL L lenses! However I think that'd be a excessive! A 1D MkII with a 400mm L IS would do me for the moment!

[HKFEVER]

I must stop buying, I just brought a Canon 15mm fisheye 3 hrs ago. :roll:

My next target is 135mm f/2L. But I don't really need it.

[CyberDyneSystems]

My next target is 135mm f/2L. But I don't really need it.


Oh .. Yes you do... Really you do... :twisted: :wink:







I think I need one too... :roll:
:lol:

[cdhender]

Yeah, I just started posting here about a month ago. I'm a serious amateur and so I'm not planning on making any money off what I do. That being said, since I've come here I've become infactuated with those L's in everyone's signature. That 17-40L is sooo tempting.

Two months ago I didn't even know these lenses existed, now it seems I can't live w/o one...

[IncompletePete]

That'd be very handy for shooting squash...... :cry: *adds to list*

[HKFEVER]

Show me the step of how to post JPG on this forum, and I will show you the new fisheye.[/img]

[CyberDyneSystems]

Show me the step of how to post JPG on this forum, and I will show you the new fisheye.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/faq.php#24

[johneo]

Keep your 10D and focus on glass for now. Wait till you OUTGROW the 10D before upgrading...

If you do that.. then by the time you upgrade, either the 20D will be cheap used.. or you can get the next gen or two after the 20D.

I'll also agree with this!

Your needs may be different but as much as I'd like to have a 20D I didn't see enough of an upgrade to chuck the 10D and that $1500 sure can buy some nice lenses and other accessories and WHEN I do upgrade to something else (might even be a 20D at the end of its run), I'll have a nice collection of lenses that I can continue to use.

I think it's the lense selection that will give the best results, not just upgrading the body everytime a new one comes out.

[jhankins]

Oh wait, it appears it is too late. :) Welcome to the club. I feel your pain, and yet, I'm actually chomping at the bit to spend on yet another body but the dang thing isn't shipping yet. Arggh! :)

ha ha

[CoolToolGuy]

Toogy,

With SLRs, it always seems that the best shot of your life is hiding inside the next item on your wish list. :oops:

Welcome to the addiction - er... club.

Next item on my wish list: A used 1D... :roll:

Have Fun,

[Toogy]

Think I am going to get the 20D

I figure I can sell my 10D for $850-$1000 on ebay which will leave me about $500 more to get the 20D, not bad really.

Thanks for all your thoughts guys.

[BearSummer]

We can set up a board of big brothers (and sisters (Marie)) who will judge your photos monthly and then decide if you need better gear or not. You get a permission to buy or a notice to keep shooting with current gear. :twisted:

Too bad this system would quickly give all the lousiest photographers the best cameras and the masters would use G1 :) :) :)

Hmmm, an excellent suggestion Pekka, however don't you think that this system could be open to abuse. Im, sure I can manage a picture of the inside of my camera bag so that I can get a... well I'm sure I need a.. hmmm... I think it's to late... now tripods, thats a different matter

Best wishes

BearSummer

[Jon]

We can set up a board of big brothers (and sisters (Marie)) who will judge your photos monthly and then decide if you need better gear or not. You get a permission to buy or a notice to keep shooting with current gear. :twisted:

Too bad this system would quickly give all the lousiest photographers the best cameras and the masters would use G1 :) :) :)

Hmmm, an excellent suggestion Pekka, however don't you think that this system could be open to abuse. Im, sure I can manage a picture of the inside of my camera bag so that I can get a... well I'm sure I need a.. hmmm... I think it's to late... now tripods, thats a different matter

Best wishes

BearSummer

Well, I don't see anything longer than 400 mm there. You're clearly deficient in the super-tele range. Or the 300/2.8.